Learn About the Inventor of Jazz with Wynton Marsalis | Amanpour and Company

[@louisthompson1020]

The more I hear Wynton play and talk the more I realize that he may be one of the greatest musicians that has ever lived.

[@melaniemaniscalco2060]

It isn't often that you get to see a talent like this. Wynton is a genius.

[@IIrandhandleII]

Yup.

[@BopWalk]

@ Perhaps Bolden was the earliest "documented" improviser on the cornet.

[@BmakinFilm]

@@BopWalk He was never recorded. The only documentation of Bolden that exits is one photograph of him and the recollections of other musicians in oral histories. That is not enough to claim he was an improvisor. Perhaps he embellished the melodies of the day ...

[@BopWalk]

Wynton is a living legend, a modern day jazz ambassador! He would make Louis Armstrong and Dizzy Gillespie proud.

[@BopWalk]

@Kelvin Callen After careful consideration, I chose to ignore your comment.

[@LouisJr]

He’s a National Treasure... Far More Than Just Talent

[@philpowell3416]

We are so lucky to have this man as an American. Especially now. Thank you, Mr. Marsalis.

[@donny_bahama]

Musically, socially, and personally, Wynton Marsalis is one of the greatest human beings to ever walk the planet. I’d give just about anything to sit and have a conversation with him. He is so inspiring in so many ways. Just... wow.

[@coolernie65]

I could listen to Wynton all day long.

[@rreid3990]

Yes!!!

Who thumbs down this? Lol Dear god, the 60secs or so about Louis is enough to educate even the dullest of us

[@jacksonrussellband]

Such great conversation. I'm a big fan of Wynton Marsalis. Mr. Isaacson is also a great interviewer. Thanks for sharing... 🙏

[@BlackRootsAcademyOfSoul]

👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👌🏿👌🏿👊🏿🖤🖤 What a Man! Greetings from Uganda 🇺🇬👊🏿🖤

[@atibaomar1341]

Brilliant and righteous man

[@mickdevlin]

This is the best interview Wynton ever gave. I just love the standards he's done on record, but with his dad Ellis? Who I was lucky enough to share a word with in Manchester? Buy it. Standard Time 3. Two geniuses doing their thing.

[@gsco82]

Great interview. I didn't know that Wynton came to jazz as an adult after playing other genres of music. I did know of his admiration of Louis Armstrong.

[@stevebeimler2579]

Him and his whole family are a celebration of all that is good with the human soul! ❤️

[@marktaylor420]

I came on a similar journey to wynton. I started trumpet 50 years ago because of Louis Armstrong. I took a detour in classical and contemporary. Now only gospel and jazz. I got souled out!

[@thinktwice4565]

Great Wynton. Such a wise and intelligent man .!

[@coolkid-od1ub]

Wynton the best

[@giovannifranzetti6214]

cool kid the more I hear from him, the more I think.. great great communicator

[@shgarrett624]

Wynton is the Truth...I just love Wynton

[@zangsax]

Excellent conversation! So enlightening, Thank you.

[@myseanmiller3186]

Masterful yet so gangster with knowledge many have no idea how much of a leader he is... fighting for the ppl.

[@lohphat]

I’m glad I’m not alone on feeling how self-destructive rap is. It IS the “new minstrel show”. It reinforces the worst of a culture which is worthy of so much more.

[@vetlerradio]

It's just pop music, real musicians will always find more musical ways to express themselves. There are even some rappers that use jazz harmony in their pieces, which can be quite experimental, like the music of Kendrick Lamar, Mac Miller and Tyler the Creator.

[@donny_bahama]

Amen

[@illitrait]

...if you had bothered listening to Marsalis, lohphat, you would have heard him carefully distinguish between rap (the style of music) and the chosen subject of its lyrics. It is the latter which Marsalis takes umbrage against - he once again reiterated that has no issues with the lyrical or musical style. Hope this helps.

[@Etatdesiege1979]

Rap? Minstrel show? Come on now. Get serious please.

[@lohphat]

@@Etatdesiege1979 Serious? Like the last Grammy show? How did we get from Duke Ellington and Ella Fitzgerald to that unmitigated trashy CRAP?

[@IIrandhandleII]

Solid character in the deepest sense.

[@iDannyism]

An absolute hero and wonderful musician.

[@bronxkies]

I really dig an aged Wynton. Very humble and friendly guy nowadays (or, so it seems).

[@bronxkies]

@Jim Stark Huh? I said it seems because I don't know him personally. When I was a kid I didn't like the guy at all. I'm a music teacher now and have gained a new appreciation for him. I even had a chance to chat with him recently and he was quite pleasant. I don't get where your ire is coming from. What a silly comment...

[@MauriatOttolink]

@@bronxkies Sorry that I get to give only ONE thumbs up!

[@danielhegeman5851]

@Jim Stark hahahahahaha

[@illitrait]

"I really dig an aged Wynton. Very humble and friendly guy nowadays (or, so it seems)." ...some say he is still an arrogant little turd, K P, but that he has now learnt duplicity.

[@annowens5019]

The time, kindness and generosity Wynton Marsalis extended to my 10 year old daughter, after a concert at UCLA's, Royce Hall are moments I've never forgotten. He was exceptional, on and off stage. My daughter is now 40 years old. Mr. Marsalis' Parents must have been extraordinary individuals.

[@Verbsdescribeus]

what a great honor to attend 2 of his live concerts in Europe July 2nd :)

[@katherandefy]

I am so psyched to see Winton!!!

[@BrennenL]

Intriguing video!

[@MrRichmattson]

This is so good. I’ve always been sad when tremendously talented folks like Eddie Murphy make movies that reinforce stereotypes

[@deskwerks]

I've always respected, and even admired Wynton, even while being completely aware of the hatred heaped on him by certain sectors of the music community. To me (and apparently many of the commentors here) his contribution to the art (and many other subjects) far out-weighs what may be fairly accurate criticisms of his 'outspoken' public commentary.

[@johnjacquard863]

inspiration to me in such a huge way.

[@meshachlakatani1979]

Amazing !!!!!

[@hamauekatsuhiko809]

セルマーバランスモデルでジャルディネリの１７mm超えのポップスのマウスピース。マルサリスは昔から屁理屈こねくり廻すけども、コルネットにしろトランペットにしろ、出てくる音は本物。いつまでも吹いてください。尊敬しています。

[@olivierherment1188]

Merci Mr Marsalis

[@mickdevlin]

He makes the impossible look easy.

[@joanirgomesfranco4267]

O mais completo da atualidade!!!

[@nicoleross7829]

love it!

[@JohnMichaelTrumpet]

I like Wynton's sound on Louis Armstrong's mouthpiece! Sounds more like a trumpet than his current set up on Monette trumpet and mouthpiece. But I also like Wynton's sound on the Monette t equipment...gives him more of his signature/lyrical vocal like sound /perhaps wider and warmer sound.

[@timothymorgan764]

I always thought that Jelly Roll Morton invented Jazz; I learned something new today. How long after Bolden did Morton make his mark? Love Wynton; love him, his music 🎶 and talent.

[@dogsmusicbookstravelscience]

Morton was 13 years younger and lived in the same area as Bolden, so he'd have been a teenager when Bolden's band still ruled the local circuit. Morton paid tribute to Bolden in his compositions and live performances, so it's safe to assume he saw and heard Bolden play while growing up. But yes, Bolden (not to forget his peers) is recognised as the pioneer. The style, in fact, was informally known as 'jass' during Bolden's playing days and only became 'jazz' as the name of the genre after he was institutionalised in 1907.

[@timothymorgan764]

@@dogsmusicbookstravelscienceThanks

[@BmakinFilm]

SIdney Bichet - one of earliest improvisors on clarinet, an equal of Louis Armstrong - said that Manny Perez played better cornet than Buddy Bolden. Jelly Roll Morton claims to have been born 1885 - that would make him only 8 years younger than Bolden. Author Al Rose believes there is much truth to Morton's claim to have invented jazz- Morton claims it was more his FEEL that was copied and thus became the basis for the kind of swing called jazz.

[@BmakinFilm]

@@dogsmusicbookstravelscience Jass was not used to describe the music of Bolden's time. The earliest documented use of the term jazz, or jass or jas etc as a word to describe music is around 1915, and that is from a Chicago newspaper. The last note Bolden ever played was in 1907. The New Orleans musicians who lived and played from that generation all state, in oral histories and biographies, that the word jazz, or jass was never used in New Orleans to describe the music until about 1915 ...

[@IBODEGAI]

He even speaks melodically. It falls out of him. WM is the greatest.

[@TheNelsonmonteiro]

He's a music encyclopedia...

[@jackwilloughby239]

Well, I hope Walter will write a book about Wynton. I hope Wynton will write a Musical: "Bolden". And I hope they both will start to talk about Louis Moreau Gottschalk, to whom (at the age of 13) Chopin said, "Give me your hand, my child; I predict that you will become the king of pianists." And I hope anyone who reads this, will read "Pops: A Life of Louis Armstrong" by Terry Teachout. Pops was influenced by Mahler, Verdi and Wagner. So, it's no joke that he played everything "Modern". Just ask Branford.

[@timothymorgan764]

Thanks for the info.

[@elooreva318]

very emotional

[@joecrowaz]

And so on, and so forth... 💪

[@JohnMoodie-r3v]

Wynton is a musician an olso a teachér

[@tooter1able]

Wynton, I met you live once a long time ago and frankly was impressed with your musicianship but NOT you personality. I found you frankly opinionated , almost self-righteous and completely judgmental in your attitudes . This interview is certainly encouraging . I think I probably had rose-colored glasses. Still impressive technique hopefully warmer soul. Thank you. Love the band. Best wishes in making jazz the music of America not just an essential element of Black Culture. Thank you for sharing your real feelings.

[@mikemccowan9454]

Legend

[@pauldavies9360]

Wynton needs to play the Cornet alot more!

[@Trumpetman-76]

can anyone tell me the model of this cornet?

[@mseminara]

There’s nothing this man can’t do

[@user-rn1lb8sx2c]

Kinda weird seeing wonton play some other horn than his monette

[@ephraimpinckney8209]

I was thinking the same. Its cool he's using LA's mouthpiece though.

[@Rightupbass]

We all know its not the horn..its the person playing

[@danyelnicholas]

Most of the early Jazz musicians were Creoles and hence catholic. So I tend to think the Sanctfied church drew on some of the same sources rather then being a great influence on early Jazz.

[@jamessidney2851]

Huh? Buddy Bolden INVENTED jazz? The title of this video is a little bit nuts, but you know that, right? Bolden predates recording technology. Nobody can say he invented jazz. Yes, Wynton is an icon. You can’t argue with his knowledge of early New Orleans trumpet styles. His demonstration of it is super impressive, mind-blowing in fact. But this pretending/imagining he was there, and speaking to us authoritatively about Bolden’s inspirations and influences really pushes the envelope of believability. At times it seems he is just describing the movie. At other times it seems like he’s offering us historical fact (which is, frankly, disingenuous and kind of weird). As a lifelong lover of and student of jazz, I would like to state that there is no way one could divine these kinds of finely-tuned details about Bolden’s playing through some pipeline of anecdotes or knowledge inferred through listening to recordings from Armstrong vis-a-vis King Oliver, even if you ARE the supremely brilliant Wynton Marsalis. Please change the title of this video. It does a tremendous disservice to the many many thousands of people who came from all over the world, willingly or through slavery, and found themselves thrown together in New Orleans, in the Unitied States of America, the only place on the globe where amazing African rhythms and tonalities would interact with crusty but beautiful old European harmonies, to make something completely unique to all of humankind, and become America’s single most significant contribution to the arts, Jazz. The invention of jazz is so much bigger than just one person. Good day.

[@da11king]

Very eloquently said ... I side with you on this one.

[@jeffreyd700]

I don't know why you have problems with anecdotes or stories. That is how knowledge was passed down in the African tradition. Because of the ugly history of America many blacks were not afforded an education to read or write. So the recorded experiences we have of African Americans of past include anecdotes, interviews, and legends.

[@thiago140893]

With all due respect... jazz is a American art form and black American to be precise... there’s no african paying jazz or European playing jazz before black Americans...

[@jamessidney2851]

I’m glad you got the point. That is exactly what I was saying. But the point is AfricanS. Not AfricaN. There is no single inventor of jazz. I’m sure Wynton would agree if he weren’t promoting a movie he produced. But I do love Wynton. He is amazing and such a powerful player and despite all the professional and institutional pressures of being in his position he still manages to inspire joy every time he performs. Wynton is okay by me. Buddy Bolden did not “invent” jazz.

[@gocu54]

Buddy Bolden was the first person to really lead a true Jazz band and unfortunately, we only have a dim photo of him and none of his music but you can't deny that without him, there would not be much influence in the Jazz world.

[@lehajuhu226]

How is the movie called

[@BmakinFilm]

"An original inventor of jazz music" is a very questionable statement to make about a musician, Buddy Bolden, who left behind no recordings - nobody knows what he sounds like, nobody alive has ever heard him play - and he stopped playing close to 10 years before the word "jazz" began to be used to describe music.

[@yuyu_skaholic]

Bolden title of the movie ?

[@WM_Nonsense]

1:43 why did I think he was playing little Spanish flea💀

[@TheodorusRex]

Amanpour can't see anything without the race-glasses on. Wynton is the trumpet player of our time.

[@theodorusrexicon5760]

Amanpour is such a dunce - Wynton, by contrast - is the best Trumpet player I've ever heard.

[@TerranceNgassa]

It Would be great if Mr . W. MARSALIS could have the Gut to take a clear Stand on Civil rights and Human rights and equality in General. Armstrong, M. Davis , Dizzy and Duke , did took stands at One point in their lives, that almost Cost them biasedly their career. But their Statements were balance justified and dignified.

[@mikeepoxymoronmason8211]

47 yr old white boy from Pennsylvania, i just returned from new Orleans, when i went around lee circle i remembered vaguely that they had removed that trader from up there, bigotry and racism are uninformed and ignorant

[@menyherthorak1631]

Louis Armstrong Miles Davis Wynton Marsalis Are the trumpets!

[@morfarviksturmm2652]

You forgot DIZZY and Roy E. They were the best.

[@alexfoote7475]

Also forgot Arturo Sandoval and Maynard Ferguson

[@MarkTarmannPianoCheck_it_out]

and Freddie and Lee Morgan

[@MarkTarmannPianoCheck_it_out]

@@alexfoote7475 nah. those 2 were never on the innovative genius level and their playing doesn't resonate through all music and styles and cultures. like pops Miles Diz Freddie . for a technically oriented trumpeter like you maybe. You might as well include Doc Severenson. No you better not try , please! I have heard trumpeters rank Doc as the " greatest". OMG. Really? Doc? He was good, but was not a great artist, if you include innovative and unique as criteria. Pops Miles Diz. those 3 did. brought the music forward. defined it and an era.

[@高山佳朗]

06:50,08:14,10:05,17:50

[@chasefreak]

Thank GOD Louis Armstrong switched from Cornet to Bb Trumpet in 1928

[@pauldavies9360]

Why?

[@chasefreak]

@@pauldavies9360 or else we would all still be playing Cornets that’s why

[@ricaard]

Conn Director ❤🎺❤

[@honoredutrey]

Many people,particularly in music colleges,think that John Coltrane and Miles Davis invented Jazz.

[@BmakinFilm]

Wynton makes a lot of assumptions about Bolden and Armstrong: like claiming that Armstrong, incorporated "the sounds of Bolden"... Louis Armstrong was 5 years old when Bolden played his last note on the cornet. Louis was not yet playing cornet. It is a big stretch of the imagination to think that Louis Armstrong, who MAY have heard Bolden in a street parade around NO, would remember that sound and be able to recreate it 7 years later when he began to play cornet. Wynton is perpetuating a myth...

[@jwmc41]

Not to be persnickety, but the Carnival of Venice ‘variation’ actually isn’t one. The tune just stays exactly the same with twiddly asides.

[@THall-vi8cp]

That's what a theme and variations is. A simple theme is played, then the theme is played again but through various levels of embelishment or alteration that increase in complexity, or in technical or musical demands. Around the turn of the 20th Century, the theme and variations style was often used in technical showpieces to be performed by prominent musicians in concert bands. The example he used for the variation is the final section of Herbert L. Clarke's _Carnival of Venice_ arrangement. (Interestingly enough, in Clarke's arrangement the soloist never plays the melody straight. It is only heard in the accompanying band.)

[@jwmc41]

@@THall-vi8cp happy to stand corrected!

[@automationcommunity]

😀😃😄

[@metaphor5533]

노사연 역시 미국교포 출신이라 영어가 ㄷㄷㄷㄷㄷ

[@jwmc41]

I suspect the ‘re-imagination’ doesn’t have much to do with the reality. Especially the ‘revelatory’ practice session. But no matter, jazz genius goes mad is a good story true or not.

[@gocu54]

It is unfortunate that we don't have recordings of Bolden's music. This is the best we have because we have nothing of his time.

[@jwmc41]

@@gocu54 just wondering if this ‘best’ is actually anything at all

[@dogsmusicbookstravelscience]

@@jwmc41 Loads of people who lived in New Orleans at the time wrote about Bolden and his band, or said things that were written by others. That includes some of his fellow bandmembers. Yes, there are vast empty spaces between the dots but the dots can be connected. But of course, we'll never know the full story or much of the influences on Bolden himself. Yet enough is known to acknowledge him as a notable jazz pioneer, just like enough is known about Johann Sebastian Bach as a baroque pioneer.

[@jwmc41]

Quite!

[@ProfRobertStewart]

No one knows who INVENTED JAZZ. He was not alive in the 1800s & never HEARD Buddy Bolden play. So, he delivers his BELIEF, nothing more. 🙏🏼

[@dogsmusicbookstravelscience]

The recorded recollections of those who saw and heard Buddy Bolden in New Orleans and who all testify to Bolden being the pioneer of the genre are not mere beliefs though. That includes Jelly Roll Morton, Joe King Oliver, Bunk Johnson and other major figures of the late 19th/early 20th century era.

[@ProfRobertStewart]

@@dogsmusicbookstravelscience Hearsay is not evidence. As an EMPIRICIST, anything that cannot be shown or heard today is belief / conjecture. Bolden's audio or video recordings do not exist. He might have heard someone playing jazz, copied that person, and received the credit. No one can "show & prove" who invented jazz.

[@dogsmusicbookstravelscience]

@@ProfRobertStewart Since you are an EMPIRICIST (those caps!) who states that anything that cannot be shown or heard today is nothing but belief/conjecture, I trust you extend that ideology to Paganini, Bach, Mozart and everyone else we merely BELIEVE were pioneers in Western music. (Not to mention numerous other fields of endeavour.) For they too, could have copied someone else and claimed the credit. You cannot empirically deny that possibility. Well, it's good to know that we should just doubt recorded history and the statements of hundreds and thousands of people who've lived before us throughout the millennia, including those who lived in New Orleans between 1895 and 1907 and spoke and wrote about it, including the members of Bolden's band as well as the early jazz musicians who picked up the baton. How they'd all have missed the fact that Bolden might have copied someone else who mysteriously remained unidentified & unknown through it all, well, I guess some professor in academia who doggedly views all information through the filter of EMPIRICISM, will share the conclusions to his NSF-funded empirical research with us here in a KZbin comment section. Meanwhile, the rest of us will connect the dots that are available to us thanks to the EXISTING statements of those who knew and heard one Charles Joseph Bolden.

[@ProfRobertStewart]

@@dogsmusicbookstravelscience Humans LACK READING COMPREHENSION, so CAPS make SKIMMING impossible. Next, BOSSA NOVA was allegedly invented by a BLACK pianist (JOHNNY ALF) in 1952. His song "Rapaz De Bem" was 7 YEARS BEFORE JOBIM and the rest. They STOLE his concept & became rich. Media HATED ALF, so he is only NOW receiving CREDIT. Hope this helps. Allegedly, Darwinian Evolutionists HATED the CONTRARY DISCOVERIES of the father of GENETICS (GREGOR MENDEL), so they HID his contrary discoveries from the PUBLIC for 100 YEARS. Hence, humans HIDE, DISTORT, BLACKLIST, etc., whoever or whatever they DISLIKE, and DOCUMENTS (even using the "HISTORIC METHOD") can be FORGED / EDITED, so I DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING that is WRITTEN in HISTORY. Hope this helps & thanks for sharing. 🙏🏼

[@ProfRobertStewart]

​@@dogsmusicbookstravelscienceMy haters on KZbin HID my answer to you, but I posted it at the top of the thread.

[@ealswytheangelicrealms]

Odd Bolden invented jazz as claimed here when he never played a tune with the word jazz or no band he ever lead or played in used the word jazz either. I read Jelly Roll Morton did the first jazz orchestrations and he claimed he invented jazz but again he did not have a band with the word jazz in it until the 1920’s. The earliest jazz band I could find that actually used the word jazz and had the word jazz in tunes they played was the Original Dixieland Jazz Band of New Orleans who made the first jazz record in 1917. Also Bolden never made any recordings so how do you know what he played?

[@humusiclab8974]

Lookup the history Freddie Keppard, who was to make the first "jazz' Recording, but later refused for various reasons. So the Original Dixieland Jazz Band was recorded instead. "Jazz" was not a name that many musicians wanted to be called in the beginning, as it was taken from the word "jass" or slang for the act or sex or related to that. The music in a whorerhouse was "jass music," for example. So saying "I am a jass musician" had connotations. Bolden and Keppard were well known players of New Orleans. That's how we know of them and how they played. It's called Oral History. There have been enough people to alive until 2000 to hear from them directly as to what the music of late 1800's and early 1900s actually sounded like. How do you know Bach actually played or wrote music attributed to him, even though there were no recordings of him either? Oral History and performers who continue performance practices and traditions to preserve music of eras. The exact same is for Jazz- through organizations such as the Preservation Hall Jazz Band. www.preservationhall.com/about/

[@THall-vi8cp]

Well, continuing that logic, since Beethoven died two years or so before the term _classical music_ was first used, we shouldn't use it to classify his music. Makes total (non)sense.

[@christopherpaige406]

Agree with all he says but his opinion on the statues.

[@honoredutrey]

Trumpet player Nick La Rocca,and Jelly Roll Morton both claimed that they "invented" jazz ! Nobody knows what Buddy Bolden sounded like. For all we know he might have been a terrible player.

[@stevenherrera4170]

Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

[@darz3829]

It's so amazing that Marsalis knows what went on the the early 1900s! He looks so young for being 140 years old. And he knows what people back then were thinking and feeling! Plus, no recording of Bolden exists so the interpretation that Marsalis plays ( late 1920s style in addition to 1940s New Orleans street beat) is not even close to any recording of others from that era. He's pretty much full of it. Mr. Marsalis is a vary talented musician. But when talks he's ignorant and inaccurate. And when he talks about race he's very tiresome.

[@greggalvarez1096]

Let's hear what you have to say. Everybody will compare notes and make their own judgment about who is ignorant and inaccurate.

[@darz3829]

@@greggalvarez1096 Your first sentence is not specific. It is listed under a reply to my comment, but is it asking for what I have to say? I said it in my reply.

[@dogsmusicbookstravelscience]

Oh okay. Historical records of the generations before us don't exist. The existence of Bach, Vivaldi, Mozart, Beethoven et al is just mere speculation too. Because hey, no one alive today knew them. We cannot possibly know anything of their influence on Western music. Flawless logic.

[@darz3829]

@@dogsmusicbookstravelscience "Historical records of the generations before us don't exist." They very much do exist. Historical and musical writings. "The existence of Bach, Vivaldi, Mozart, Beethoven et al is just mere speculation too" Much contemporary information is available. " We cannot possibly know anything of their influence on Western music." You mean other than the many manuscripts that musicians use today? My complaints is that Marsalis is a mind-reader. He tells us what the early jazzers were thinking and how they were playing. And this case, you are right - no record of early early jazz was made to give us a way to confirm or deny. Marsalis seems to be wanting legitimacy by making up "facts."

[@dogsmusicbookstravelscience]

@@darz3829 Yet here you are, reading Marsalis's mind, you mind-reader you! If there is one living jazz icon with no need whatsoever of "wanting legitimacy", it is Wynton Marsalis. You speak of him as if he's a nobody who wouldn't know his subject inside out, who wouldn't have studied the numerous statements by those who lived in New Orleans during Buddy Holden's time, his fellow band members as well as other early jazz trailblazers such as Jelly Roll Morton, Bunk Johnson, Keppard, Joe King Oliver and others, including "Pops". But what would Marsalis know that us armchair dwellers don't have already? Oh yeah, he "wants legitimacy"... Good God!

[@manuelkong10]

taking down statues is an act of Great cowardice....it's saying, it's pretending "this never happened"...or should not have happened... but it did and it needs to be seen and remembered

[@Steve-mp7by]

ugh nothing worse than a Jazz snob

[@dufasaurjoe2899]

To say someone invented something comes from a desire to personalize and simplify something that is very complex and involves many people and maybe even animals. What about aboriginals in africa listening to bird and animal sounds. Where did african rhythms come from? African rhythms came across by men playing gourd and if you add some strings -early banjo like instruments. If you add European instrumentation to this mix you get rhythmic music like Ragtime- which though rhythmic is based on a march. But music like blues- where does the earlier banjo music and later guitar fit in? What about all the people involved with inventing musical instruments? You didn't have Jazz until you have the instruments to play it. Beethoven played some pretty funky stuff in his last piano Sonata Opus 111. Some say he was of dark complexion= hey what gives?

[@thiago140893]

With all due respect... Jazz is an American art form... nothing to do with Africa.

[@norabiddogz8673]

@@thiago140893 It has its roots in Africa. I am a South African Jazz student (Trumpet) and our traditional music from the Zulu, Tswana, or Sotho cultures has had all the elements that Jazz has today such as 'Call and Response' which Americans tribute to originate from the Blues (of which especially in my culture of seTswana is a big thing in our funeral songs and our rite of passage ceremonies), 6/2 Polyrhythms and Syncopation, etc. The only bits that America and the western world contributed to these musical elements, were European harmonies, song form as well as the instrumentation making the framework of Jazz. These elements of Jazz aren't even limited to the aforementioned South African tribes. Listen to music from Mali and you will hear the Blues (in my opinion) in its purest form. Without African traditional music, there are no Blues and furthermore no Jazz. Respect Africa, please. As Wynton himself said in this interview, there is always a passing down of knowledge from each generation of musicians. This is true for cultures and their music.

[@Liberated_from_Religion]

@@thiago140893 The next thing you will say is "Samba is Brazilian, it has nothing to do with Africa".

[@Dios67]

Inventor of Jazz? Beethoven.

[@LuckyPoop]

It's funny how Africa Americans think they invented all forms of music, when they are using instruments that were invented by east west Europeaners. The saxophone was invented by Adolphe Sax who also invented the saxotromba, saxhorn and saxtuba and was used long before they ever came to America. It's strange in America how African Americans in Hollywood media give no credit to the people who really invented the music that they adopted, you could even call it cultural appropriation if you want to use that term.

[@9UaYXxB]

@@LuckyPoop Here's a comment which will have a special relish for you, given by your KZbin tag. And special relevance. An illustrious quote, only for you... Opinions are like assh-les, everybody has one.

[@LuckyPoop]

@@9UaYXxB Opinions are actually like penises, because not everyone has an Opinion.

[@LuckyPoop]

It's funny how Africa Americans think they invented all forms of music, when they are using instruments that were invented by east west Europeaners. The saxophone was invented by Adolphe Sax who also invented the saxotromba, saxhorn and saxtuba and was used long before they ever came to America. It's strange in America how African Americans in Hollywood media give no credit to the people who really invented the music that they adopted, you could even call it cultural appropriation if you want to use that term.

[@freebirddude]

I understand your point about the origins of instruments. However, African Americans took the music they were shown and created a completely different genre of music. It is well earned title to say they created jazz, but to say they created all forms of modern day music is a far fetch. I agree, we need more showcasing of the generations of people who engineered the instruments and music we play today. The media shows you only the people who align with hollywood, but not the millions musicians including african american musicians who know the true history of how these genres formed and cherish it.

[@urameshi6254]

Lol you are so off base. Learn what music invention is.