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@Devanox4
@Devanox4 Жыл бұрын
No I don't have access to a 32mm Sun... YET
@PhilAlm92
@PhilAlm92 Жыл бұрын
"The power of the sun, in the palm of my hand"
@tommy5c
@tommy5c Жыл бұрын
As a lighting guy, I was like "of course I do!" and Well honestly yes.... math is your friend when it comes to light, lol
@GreenBlueWalkthrough
@GreenBlueWalkthrough Жыл бұрын
I do it's called a n LED light bulb... now where to get 32mm light from?
@tommy5c
@tommy5c Жыл бұрын
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough why do you need a 32mm scales bulb. Do you know how big the sun actually is vs how big vs the atmosphere it is. You are matching lumins not size and distance. Nevermind a 32mm build is easier. Please find that... Then put it .001 mm away...... Oh wait not the same
@Optionvideo209
@Optionvideo209 Жыл бұрын
@@tommy5c it's not 93 million miles away, put it that way. May the jesuit heliosexual model die for good. Oh, wait I meant... heliocentric.
@stonebrew6116
@stonebrew6116 Жыл бұрын
I have been learning from you for years. It wouldn’t be far off to say that you are the reason I bought my first set of real paints. Great channel and great content! Thank you!
@Miniac
@Miniac Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ContemporaryAlchemist
@ContemporaryAlchemist Жыл бұрын
Thank you for helping all of us elevate our skills with slapping paint on minis. I now get minis for the painting fun and challenge instead of dunking tyranids in nuln oil so I can play a game (not hating on that either, the prime-drybrush-wash grind has brought me immense joy).
@AwulaQ_Q
@AwulaQ_Q Жыл бұрын
I've been on and off this hobby for the last 3 years. I'm always terrified of even devianting from usual edge highlights approach on everything (games workshop approach/old Duncan videos). I've always contemplated trying nmm to get away from metal paints. But I've always hesitate because my if I mess up terribly, I would have to strip the model and start over. Another things my lack of knowledge of placing where the lights and shadows should be to sell the effect. I'm rambling at this point but as an amateur painter, all of this terrifies me.
@justinkotrba2197
@justinkotrba2197 Жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing your journey of NMM. it helps others who havent begun their own experimentation with NMM and how challenging it can be no matter how skilled you are.
@slaughterhouse0000
@slaughterhouse0000 Жыл бұрын
This is the by far the best and most useful video on NMM I’ve ever seen. Genuinely outstanding. Thanks Scott
@bunionsandcabbage6764
@bunionsandcabbage6764 Жыл бұрын
This is a great counterpart to your other "recent" NMM video (Cloud Knight). It shows us the journey while the other one gives us the tools to begin said journey.
@caseyfrechette
@caseyfrechette Жыл бұрын
I have been watching your videos for years and for me, this is hands down the most helpful video you have shot. My journey has been EXTREMELY similar, right down to using that S75 set for all my early efforts. But I am so far behind you, and so inclined to make the same mistakes! If I could start over, I would study Kujo's style first, then move on to Latham's crazy-ass four-point lighting schemes. You got me thinking a lot about the importance of choosing those light points based on the best angles of photography, I had not even begun to contemplate it.
@imyourhuckleberry5133
@imyourhuckleberry5133 Жыл бұрын
Like Stone Brew said earlier. you are the main reason i really started to get better paints and ive watched all your vidoes and i hope that your channels continues to grow. i cant wait till next month for the kickstarter that my wife got for me for my birthday this year to show up! Cheers Bro!
@ducknwater3016
@ducknwater3016 Жыл бұрын
2 months ago I started painting NMM gold. I started off decently with NMM sword, but even that doesn’t look good in hindsight. Then I had many failed attempts, which resulted in a couple ugly yellow figures instead of actual gold. I kept watching tons of videos on youtube, showing different techniques on how to paint NMM gold. I watched this particular video and I could see that I was making some of the same mistakes as Miniac. But after 2 months, I bought some more ochre, dark red browns and yellow paints, got myself a Sigvald Prince Of Slaanesh and started painting it NMM gold. I got feedback on it, and most people said that it looks like like gold. So in two months I went from painting NMM gold sword and tiny NMM gold details to painting a complex model with lots of details in convincing NMM gold. So thanks Miniac, thanks for motivating me to paint and motivating me to push myself when it comes to painting😁
@ItsDaCMD
@ItsDaCMD Жыл бұрын
Regardless of the technique or effect I'm going for, I learn infinitely more from my own mistakes than from somebody else's. But it can be important to get an outisde view to be able to identify what exactly is wrong in the first place. Great vid as always, Scott.
@AceSpec
@AceSpec Жыл бұрын
I finally understand exactly what NMM is… I’m pretty new into the hobby, like brand new, and have been enjoying a lot of this content. NMM keeps coming up, and I knew what it stood for but now I feel like I grasp what it really is. All this to say, at this point into my journey into the hobby, I have no intention of putting in those kind of man hours to get good! I don’t think I want to even traverse into display painting, and will just stick with tabletop and enjoy playing the games with all the time I save. Thanks again
@p4cca
@p4cca Жыл бұрын
Bad nmm light placement only looks bad to people who are really good at nmm. Also this makes me feel like a terrible painter but also makes me want to try it again. Thanks Scott!
@nachopile
@nachopile Жыл бұрын
the end takeaway of letting yourself mess up is really important. it is with any skill, but especially art, since it is really so low risk to mess up and you learn a lot from those failures
@danmclean7375
@danmclean7375 Жыл бұрын
"Mess up Gloriously" Prettymuch the only NMM advice I've consistently followed 🤣👍
@edvill82
@edvill82 8 ай бұрын
Love watching your vids. Cause of you I went back on painting minis and found happiness doing it. PAINT MORE MINIS
@joshuanolet8679
@joshuanolet8679 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Walk down memory lane! I remember almost all of these videos. Thanks Scott!
@Miniac
@Miniac Жыл бұрын
long time fan! hell yeah!
@derrekingledue3138
@derrekingledue3138 Жыл бұрын
I'm a beginner. And I made the best decision: my first attempt was for an energy drink sized figure of Tali'Zorah. My next attempt is where my insanity shines. My first, in progress, attempt is with my Necrons. A purple metallic with red shoulderblades. Still looks awesome, in my opinion, but neither reads as metal.
@KavinayKishor
@KavinayKishor Жыл бұрын
Great video. My NMM is -1 your Blood Angels experiment but I find the process has been fantastic skill-building in general. Something about really focussing on selling the effect helps distract from how much brush control and light sourcing you're doing. It's like the wax-on, wax-off approach to building core skills. :D
@azzakirk44
@azzakirk44 8 ай бұрын
FRICK YEAH MY GUY THAT WAS A HELLA INPSIRING VIDEO!!! AND THE GROWLS AT THE END? LET'S GOOOO!!!! Hope you're doing well, Scott Thanks for the inspiration 👊
@MarcinEstkowski
@MarcinEstkowski Жыл бұрын
I'm trying NMM on minis that have little metal parts, and avoid using it on minis that are mainly metal... Good to see this video of yours. Cheers.
@mini-paintingpapa
@mini-paintingpapa Жыл бұрын
Great video Scott!! Accepting mistakes as learning opportunities and experience is a hugely important ability when learning a new skill.
@BlaiseGD3
@BlaiseGD3 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Showing lerning curve is, well ...inspiring. Thanks Scott!
@freelancerblitz2579
@freelancerblitz2579 Жыл бұрын
Ive been painting minis on and off for years and still havent tried NMM yet, ill get round to it one day haha, your recent works are beautiful!
@XshredderXradX
@XshredderXradX Жыл бұрын
Every time I need a painting jump start I go right to your channel and start getting inspired. Sometimes I go a little too long without painting and I come across your videos in my feed…and all I want to do is paint! I appreciate your ongoing transparency and integrity. I look up to you so much as a creature, business owner and artist! Your the reason I continue to slay the gray ;). (Haha just kidding. That’s not your slogan❤️) but seriously….you and ninjon are the main reason I continue to PAINT MORE MINIS!!!
@Miniac
@Miniac Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah, Christopher!! SLAY THE GREY, BABYYYY! ;)
@Dragoan117
@Dragoan117 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I think it would be really fun to see you paint up the same model twice but one with metallic paint and one with NMM. I sometimes see NMM on minis and think it really doesn't look all that great, think it would be really interesting to see a really good comparison done on two models with great paint jobs.
@justindonie
@justindonie Жыл бұрын
I can understand the appeal of NMM, but find myself drawn to TMM. That said, this was an excellent place to learn about how NMM works, the challenges involved, the craft and skills used, and the experience level required to make it look amazing. Oddly enough, I just watched a TMM video of yours within the last couple of days, so it was great to be able to compare and contrast the two approaches. Thanks! Awesome as always!! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
@SconeMonster
@SconeMonster Жыл бұрын
I didn't realize this would be about just NMM, but I'm not mad about it. I really appreciate the retrospective on your journey. I haven't tried it yet, but I feel comfier with the idea of it now. Thank you. :)
@drmjruff
@drmjruff Жыл бұрын
I really like the 1st gold attempt. Although, I agree it didn't turn out as NMM particularly well. It did turn out like a really great Aztec style painting. So the result you got could be transferred to another fun technique especially for Native American themed minis.
@crypticpaintworks
@crypticpaintworks Жыл бұрын
Getting a decent-looking NMM effect with acrylics is legitimately hard. It takes a ton of practice to learn how, and each time you do it requires a lot of time to get right. Nobody should feel bad if their first attempt, or first fifty attempts, don't work perfectly, as long as there's gradual improvement. I've been trying for years and still can't reliably pull it off.
@GarredHATES
@GarredHATES Жыл бұрын
just got my first Kolinsky sable brush today. I am excite
@hobbyhermit
@hobbyhermit Жыл бұрын
I just made my first attempt at NMM and it looks really rough but I'm glad i tried and look forward to trying again! I appreciate this encouragement at the perfect time.
@the_elder_medium
@the_elder_medium Жыл бұрын
I bet you've made By The Sword a hit song by now. Damn that's a great instrumental
@melodybentley2386
@melodybentley2386 Жыл бұрын
One of these days I'll be able to unsee the water droplets that get on the table in the intro XP
@thechadbuddha
@thechadbuddha Жыл бұрын
thank you for making all this mistakes so i can repeat them myself
@chrispendleton5270
@chrispendleton5270 Жыл бұрын
Hi Scott! Your videos are outstanding and have really helped me become a better painter! Would you consider making a video on how to paint some convincing carbon scoring like from a directed energy blast or a burned-out tank hull or building?
@Miniac
@Miniac Жыл бұрын
I might sneak that one into a video where I paint a vehicle or some kind of mech because I think it's a little too specific for it's own video, but I suppose that's still a yes!
@Daydam
@Daydam Жыл бұрын
This was such an inspiring and interesting video! Love how your NMM has evolved. I’ve been trying to improve my metallics work since last year, and while I’m still far from being amazing at it, I’m super proud of how I’m improving. I actually tried NMM gold in my latest video, since it’s something I hace nearly zero experience, and it was my best attempt to date even if not 100% realistic. Can’t wait to continue experimenting!
@tombombadil9338
@tombombadil9338 Жыл бұрын
My favorite NMM person is probably from flameon. His stuff just looks amazing
@dazwats123
@dazwats123 Жыл бұрын
I've been thinking recently, and especially after your last TMM video that a combination of TMM paints and NMM techniques may be the perfect marriage. At least in my preference of how it appears. Also wanted to say I've been following your channel for years and you've never failed to teach me something and put a smile on my face in the process.
@Miniac
@Miniac Жыл бұрын
I love to hear it! I think I was kind of going for an NMM look in my last TMM video, maybe a bit less of the secondary and tertiary highlights and shadows, but I think you're right! Combining the two is really awesome.
@dannys78211
@dannys78211 Жыл бұрын
I haven't even got the confidence to try NMM yet! I've been watching and learning about it for a while but know I'm no where near good enough yet
@sirbaconbuster
@sirbaconbuster Жыл бұрын
Where I'm at on my NMM journy? I haven't even attempted it. Partially because it's intimidating, but mostly because I love shiny paint and have a crippling addiction to Turbo Dork.
@plaguenarr930
@plaguenarr930 Жыл бұрын
Hey Miniac, im currently on the same kind of process in learning NMM. Maybe you should take a look on Richard Grey´s guide for simple NMM effects. He has a real good understanding of how the effects sell with real less effort. He has also a lot of knowlodge about color theorya which he alos tells in his videos. Its absolutly woth to take a deep look inside his work. His guides helped me alot with awesome results on speedpainting my models! I love gis real unuiqe brush technique. And his real photorealistic style, even on speedpaints.
@ckoetael
@ckoetael Жыл бұрын
Hehe, last month I was at the master class of Kirill Kanaev on NMM XD
@hansjohannsen6722
@hansjohannsen6722 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@lordbaconbane6145
@lordbaconbane6145 Жыл бұрын
I literally haven't started nmm. It is a bit intimidating but I also like how easy tmm is. Sometimes though when I don't paint nmm, or when I see nmm, I feel like I'm painting my models wrong, that I'm not doing it the right way or the good way. It's a bit conflicting,.
@eyflfla
@eyflfla Жыл бұрын
Only person you need to impress is yourself.
@hero_time
@hero_time Жыл бұрын
PAINT MORE MINIS!!! 🤘
@angelsoffurtitude
@angelsoffurtitude Жыл бұрын
i'm currently stuck in the "left nmm and haven't done it since"
@Zaldarin
@Zaldarin Жыл бұрын
The close ups look really good, but the slow pans at 30fps get really frame-y when we're trying to track small details like the NMM trim. Any chance you could upload the next video at 60fps?
@geofffoden9245
@geofffoden9245 Жыл бұрын
there was a really useful 'pie-chart' you posted earlier showing the distribution of highlights/shadows to highlights and it's something I am really struggling with. I have a feeling now that I need 5 overall tones, where 1 = highlight and 5 is darkest shadow. 2 is a bright mid tone, 3 is median and 4 is the dark midtone. i feel 1 & 5 should each be around 10 %, 3 should be 20% and 2 and 4 should be each 30%...and then I need to also understand (sigh...) at what point I am on entirely the wrong path or am giving up too early (i swear I restart each time 3 times and then stop)
@Miniac
@Miniac Жыл бұрын
Here's how I would break it down: 1: 35% 2: 25% 3: 10% 4: 10% 5: 20%
@JadeCatMinis
@JadeCatMinis Жыл бұрын
I'm no where's near ready to paint nmm. I'm still struggling with tabletop level.
@Josh-bn6lz
@Josh-bn6lz Жыл бұрын
NMM? Nah, I’m still trying to figure out how to dry brush 🤣😂🤣😂
@pepiart1413
@pepiart1413 Жыл бұрын
Such a good video!
@Miniac
@Miniac Жыл бұрын
thank you!!
@djnotnice8416
@djnotnice8416 Жыл бұрын
When are we gonna get a tutorial on that heavy metal growl though?
@JoeFlamenco
@JoeFlamenco Жыл бұрын
After my initial failures at NMM this gives me hope that in the next decade or two I’ll start improving!🎉🎉😂😂😢
@Miniac
@Miniac Жыл бұрын
😅😅😅😅
@jaketheplumber16
@jaketheplumber16 Жыл бұрын
5:17 I miss collective studio
@FlesHBoX
@FlesHBoX Жыл бұрын
I can 100% appreciate nmm as an artful and skillful thing, but it always looks like a painting of metal to my eye, rather than metal.
@qix1t
@qix1t Жыл бұрын
Christ. I think I’m not going to bother with that NMM project I had planned…
@ScytheNoire
@ScytheNoire Жыл бұрын
Andy Wardle NMM link?
@ThrawnsHand
@ThrawnsHand Жыл бұрын
Greetings Scott. Long time viewer, first time commenting . I have a question about NMN. I understand it’s a technique or flex , as you put it . But why not just use metallic paints ? Is there an aversion to them?
@Miniac
@Miniac Жыл бұрын
NMM creates a much more striking and impressive effect to me
@2MeatyOwlLegs
@2MeatyOwlLegs Жыл бұрын
I havent had the time and honestly the guts to tackle nmm yet. But I will for sure. I really dont like metallic paints... they always ate my least favourite part of painting
@Beedji
@Beedji Жыл бұрын
I'm really not a fan of NMM, it only looks good in pictures. I appreciate the passion and time invested in the craft though.
@zamiyaFlow
@zamiyaFlow Жыл бұрын
I just use true metallic metal and use the remainder of the hours I saved with my loved ones
@Robocop2134
@Robocop2134 Жыл бұрын
NMM is a cool technique, but unless you are really good at it I don't think it looks that great. So I decided for myself that is not worth the effort.
@abyssalnights6409
@abyssalnights6409 Жыл бұрын
NMM is cool and all, but i'm lazy. very very lazy
@Miniac
@Miniac Жыл бұрын
And that's OK! It's not for everyone. It's important to figure out what you enjoy about mini painting and just do that all the time. No worries.
@MisterTingles
@MisterTingles Жыл бұрын
"The skill ceiling is very high" is actually genuinely reassuring advice... Coming back to the hobby after a decade, the wealth of knowledge/inspiration available nowadays has been really energizing for me, and you, Jon and Vince have been a sizeable part in that rekindling. I still don't know how the fuck volumetric lighting works, but I still enjoy pushing myself with every new mini, experimenting with stuff I couldn't even consider 10 years ago, and the (conventionally rather disheartening) prospect that there's way more skilled people out there is oddly comforting. I may not be there yet, but I might one day get there if the hobby manages to hold my interest and continues to provide me an escape from the grim darkness of the far flung present...
@Miniac
@Miniac Жыл бұрын
I hope the hobby holds your interest!
@RenMomoDotPog
@RenMomoDotPog Жыл бұрын
my biggest mistake was conforming to what everyone else was doing. everyone was going for the best detail possible on every mini and was essentially aiming for an award of some kind in the future whether that be a physical one or just a lot of "wow!" from their peers. I have decided to forgo that and just do what I think is lower effort but still good enough for the table, so when I never get to play a game, I'll have painted models for it
@12XxXHandlesAreStupidXxX123
@12XxXHandlesAreStupidXxX123 Жыл бұрын
This 100% I've actually had to unsub from some bigger mini painting youtube channels because they will look at a model 10x better than my best and call it trash. I don't need that kind of negativity in my life.
@dv_xl
@dv_xl Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have found that if I just paint and don't try so hard things generally turn out better than if I fuss on every single detail.
@Miniac
@Miniac Жыл бұрын
amen to this
@mrmeseas1225
@mrmeseas1225 Жыл бұрын
Lol me 2
@mrmeseas1225
@mrmeseas1225 Жыл бұрын
I treat box art like photoshoped models
@justtom2504
@justtom2504 Жыл бұрын
Hi Scot. It's been 2 minutes dude, stop refreshing the comments
@KabinMiniatures
@KabinMiniatures Жыл бұрын
It's good to see your journey throughout the years and how you progressed piece by piece. I think a lot of people would title the video "Easy NMM" or "How to learn NMM super quick" etc. but this is more honest.
@EricsHobbyWorkshop
@EricsHobbyWorkshop Жыл бұрын
You rock scott. One day I'll try to paint gud with all the stuff I learn from this channel, i swear
@Miniac
@Miniac Жыл бұрын
Don't make promises you can't keep, Eric
@wexton1
@wexton1 Жыл бұрын
Same one day .....
@carlstanford7607
@carlstanford7607 Жыл бұрын
The process of learning is as fascinating as it is frustrating but totally worth it
@MrDaqar
@MrDaqar Жыл бұрын
My first nmm attempt was the golden trim on a Death Guard Myphitic Blighthauler...most convinsing wood I've ever painted! xD
@Nolinquisitor
@Nolinquisitor Жыл бұрын
In the end, a model is a canvas, a miniature is a miniature, and real metal beats fake metal every time.
@Silvertaurus_
@Silvertaurus_ Жыл бұрын
Luckly after short phase of learning where NMM looks real Bad, the long phase of NMM not looking convincing still can look cool :D ... is it only my impression?
@Joe_Murph
@Joe_Murph Жыл бұрын
I can't wait for MMM 2023: Miniac finally loses his sanity trying to MMM Sanguinius
@tylerswartz8671
@tylerswartz8671 Жыл бұрын
So basically you're saying just stick with TMM?
@Roke1222
@Roke1222 Жыл бұрын
The big eureka moment for me was alternating warm and cool colours, one in the main highlight, the other in the secondary, or vice - versa depending on the surrounding light sources. I imagine what the sky looks like and it guides me. Try only using an image of an atmospheric colourful and cloudy sky as reference for your nmm, I think you will be pleasantly surprised by what you come up with. Great video Scott.
@samhawkey3768
@samhawkey3768 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been experimenting with spending less time in the mid tone, seems to be helping, but where I seem to fall apart is the base coat. Cheers for the advice. It helped.
@benwhitnell
@benwhitnell Жыл бұрын
Man this is perfectly timed, I’ve decided I’m going to pick up some storm cast eternals for display only and paint them in NMM. Kicked around with a few test minis and I’m ready to really get into it.
@SUPkook
@SUPkook Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your inspirational last words, I'd almost given up on painting NMM samurai swords! Perhaps not the best place to start my NMM journey!
@bragoen
@bragoen Жыл бұрын
The main problem with a gold NMM on a whole mini (like your boy Dante) is that if you mess it up it looks like he's taken a sponsorship from a mustard brand.
@ionminiatures
@ionminiatures Жыл бұрын
I haven’t even attempted NMM yet, but I definitely want to attempt it and TMM as well. I have some models I don’t care about to practice on but need to get some time into doing it.
@Thurisazz1
@Thurisazz1 Жыл бұрын
I literally just started painting like a month ago. For some insane reason, I started painting BECAUSE I thought NMM is such a cool painting technique and I really want to learn it. It has been a month of pain thus far.
@ducknwater3016
@ducknwater3016 Жыл бұрын
If you start your painting journey with NMM, then that is like never having played video games before and jumping straight to COD campaign and playing at the hardest difficulty. I can only wish you good luck with this endeavor. I started painting NMM 2 months ago, but before doing that I had figured out how light reflects, what paints to use, how to do smooth transition, layering and decent enough brush control, but I have also been painting for a couple of years.
@angus3591
@angus3591 Жыл бұрын
Great video Scott! Loved seeing your progress play out like this, and your editing was superb - the cut in at 11:28 was very slick, loved it
@gavin_is_gavin6292
@gavin_is_gavin6292 Жыл бұрын
I really applaud you going through all your steps through the journey, and being upfront about your failures along the way. It is supremely helpful and refreshing!
@GreenBlueWalkthrough
@GreenBlueWalkthrough Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this as for my eye you whent from dull metal to cartoony video game effect metal to beginner mid matte NMM... As for me have not tried TT NMM yet as have been struggling with brush control and learning my paint/brush... But in my pixel art I use itt all the time and I have 3 levels of NMM. 1. just the true tone color and sell the NNM with the context. 2. a few highlights just to show the surface can reflect light these range from just dots//streaks aof color to abstract shapes. 3. Full on reflection with a filter over it.
@eXileLies
@eXileLies Жыл бұрын
Cross hatching is superior to shading. Don't @ me!
@Miniac
@Miniac Жыл бұрын
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@djvertical
@djvertical Жыл бұрын
Bro, the quality of your content has gone through the roof! I loved your content before, but now, it’s on another level. Go Scott! 🔥🔥🔥
@DarianSilk1
@DarianSilk1 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are awesome - not just great painting advice but great life advice and so much honesty!
@TylerProvick
@TylerProvick Жыл бұрын
The thing I would like the most is for people to drop the realism requirement of NMM. TMM is also not a realistic metallic finish. We accept it because it's "metallic paint" but that doesn't guarantee realism. As long as you know it is meant to be metal it is fine. IMO: The key to NMM is reflections. The highlight might be big, or small, depending on the relative size of the light. The midtones also can be big or small depending on the environment. The thing that makes metal look metallic is that it picks up any light that bounces off a surface. Turning NMM doesn't break because when you rotate a model the specular reflections shouldn't move - it breaks when it hits an angle where you don't see any bounced light. The lights on NMM are imaginary and when you turn it they are just different imaginary light sources in a different imaginary configuration. This is why Sergio Calvo just adds a bunch of imaginary lights to whichever angle he happens to be working on. More lights is better because higher complexity overwhelms the brain. A 32mm sun is just the sun, btw. It is so far away that the difference between a miniature and a human is the tiniest fraction.
@OvantheWise
@OvantheWise Жыл бұрын
I told myself I was going to try and start learning NMM this year… I watched this video and my soul screams in color blind..😅 I am far behind you in my skill level. My first attempt was ok but fell so far flat it felt discouraging.
@jmaccsarmiesofArda
@jmaccsarmiesofArda Жыл бұрын
A technique ive still be too scare to try. Inspiration aquired
@SuperFreeamerican
@SuperFreeamerican Жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic vid. I learned a lot. Thanks for your honesty. I'd say you've arrrived..!
@rogthepirate4593
@rogthepirate4593 Жыл бұрын
I actually haven't tried NMM even once, despite being active in the hobby for almost 4 years now. Not necessarily because I find the idea daunting (I've painted traditionally and digitally for decades, and the general concepts are the exact same), but because I always found it to look off on 3D models - it always seemed cartoonish to me and that just is not my style at all. HOWEVER: Some of those examples you showed there towards the end of the video really blew my mind a bit. I think I'll actually have a go at NMM on a display model some time.
@83antek83
@83antek83 Жыл бұрын
Great video!! I've been watching You for some time now. Really apreciate how you talk about going through the proces and beeing ok with making mistakes. I myself am a little bit farther then the "Banana boys" level with gold nmm and doing a little better with steel nmm. And i to started with the same darren latham pictures 😅 That video was excatly what i needed now and it gives me a lot more patience and energy to keep on going. Maybe before i'll die I'll manage to get somwhere closer to the intended effect 😆 Thanks again and keep doing what You're (and some of Your colleges) doing. All the best from Poland :)
@TheLightLOD
@TheLightLOD Жыл бұрын
I learned NMM (or at least tried to), but it remains quite difficult. I've got the colors for gold figured out, yet my metals and silvers need some refining. And that's just the colors, I haven't even looked into proper highlight and reflection positioning. That said, I am happy enough with my results, given the time I'm willing to spend on them. In the end NMM is just another skill we learn over time, it wouldn't be fun if we instantly could do everything perfectly. Better to spend the time learning and painting more minis ;)
@pontiac6548
@pontiac6548 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this vid, it has given me a lot to think about. My NMM efforts have been a very hit or miss affair which has affected me wanting to do it more often. One thing about NMM I have noticed and didn't take into account early on, was the viewing distance to the mini; unless you are super skilled with blending the closer you view the fig the less convincing the technique is. In plastic model building there is the saying "it's a four foot model" meaning it looks great from a distance, I think this applies to the NMM journey and you have shown us and that through practice and perseverance the viewing distance will become shorter over time. Cheers. ps I thought Morbius was a steaming pile.
@wkblauwster
@wkblauwster Жыл бұрын
Your reference attempts made me wonder. What if you tried getting reference digitaly. If you have the STL files from the model (for 3d printing for example) you can use a program like substance painter or other rendering programmes to give the whole model any metal finish and add a quick ambiance light using real world photo reference. Taking a render then from a couple of angels you can experiment where it looks best. This sould give you a near perfect reference as all lights impacting the model are on scale and you have color refections that are also accurate. You can even add stuff like the chromatic aberration you mentioned. I is probably also decently fast to do with very little thinking required. Just some small software knowhow. This comes from someone with no experience doing nmm and just experience making game assets and 3d printing.
@Derpwalker
@Derpwalker Жыл бұрын
This is exactly why I kinda hate NMM. It's such a pain in the ass to make something look really good, takes forever to learn, and 95% of what I see in models on Reddit and Instagram looks just bad and not convincing. I get why people try to do this, but I never felt any need to do this. I don't paint even closely as much as you do, and you needed years to get good at it. So yeah. I try to perfect TMM and that's it.
@JonHaugaard
@JonHaugaard Жыл бұрын
A little late to the party, but here goes. I like to paint. It has been a great way to unwind after work and it feels great to see the final result on the table. I learned various techniques and received good advice from watching and listening to you and other mini-painters on youtube. I am in no way close to the level of painting you presented here, but I do alright. The first time I fielded a fully a painted army at a tournament, it won best painted. My hypothesis is that watching the video you did on the color theory a few years ago helped me achieve that - even if I didn't entirely follow your advice. I have moved from TMM to an NMM that works on the tabletop - I am still trying to teach myself that every mini doesn't have to aim for a display standard, but that is a different subject. With every batch of miniatures I get a little bit better, and I think you did a good job of highlighting exactly that with this video. As you pointed out, it is important to allow yourself to make mistakes. And perhaps the best advice you give, is the one at the end of each video: "Paint more minis". Put your paint to a brush and your brush to a mini, and keep doing that. Every mistake and every succes you have on every mini is a learning experience if you allow it to be one.
@kodehoved
@kodehoved 8 ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks for sharing. I have only been painting for 3 years and I still find NMM really hard to grasp, so I am glad that I still have some time to catch up. I think that it is a great idea with videos like this because it is all too easy to think that you guys did not practice for years to get were you are.
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