Learn The MOANIN' Sax Riff - Leo P vs Pepper Adams! (Charles Mingus)

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[@adele8375]

Hi Jamie I watch every week.....could you possibly do Joel Correy head and heart? Thanks

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Adele Banton - Thanks for watching. I’ll check that one out!

[@55Dragon55]

I’m 69 I have never played baritone sax until 10 years ago , I’m trying my best but still looking for that one day when it comes together.

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You got this! 👍🏻

[@seant6658]

this is me. i only play bari but i love your channel. he did it on purpose. he has the melody, can play any way he wants.

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Hi Sean! Thanks for your comment.

[@EduanSteenkamp]

Thank you for this video. Been playing alto for 20 years and also teaching alto, tenor for 4 years without a formal teacher and baritone for about a month, also no teacher. Now I can set my goals high and eventually try and learn this on the baritone. Baritone is a different beast...so much to learn but loving it.

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Enjoy the journey!

[@agatalerch9359]

Another amazing lesson, Jamie! I love Leo P. and his antics. I have just switched from the alto to the tenor. It will be great to try it out with this tune.

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Sounds great! Have fun!

[@aaaaaa-aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

Had no idea my alto can sound so deep, first time using this low Bb note, but its soo hard.

[@GetYourSaxTogether]

Yeh, alto doesn't like low notes really.

[@1fude1]

Oh I'm so grateful for you to take us through this Jamie, this one takes me to places I've never been before, so raw and powerful Thank you for breaking it down so well :)

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You’re very welcome 😊

[@1fude1]

@@GetYourSaxTogether could you please let me know how you get the bends in Phrase 3, struggling with my Alto Sax to reproduce it

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@@1fude1 try this kzbin.info/www/bejne/paKTiX2kbtaqlZY

[@1fude1]

@@GetYourSaxTogether I just finished watching this, it makes so much sense now. I have had no musical background, I turned 30, 3 months ago and I bought myself a new sax in the lockdown. I can't hire a tutor, since things in my country are very dire, but it's because of people like you I have made leaps in my progression in such a short time. I put in 2 hours every day consistently and it's your energy and love for what you do that pushes me to put in the time. Very grateful to all your work. You have a true gift for breaking things down, thank you for sharing it with the world

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@@1fude1 you’ve just made my day!

[@thesaxlab]

Thanks Jamie . Another awesome lesson . I just need you to teach me Leo P's dance moves now ! ; )

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Em. Yeh, about that... lol

[@a1saxy]

Thanks Jamie for another great lesson. Really looking forward to next weeks lesson 😊

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Yup, it's your time to shine!!! lol

[@johnd6378]

yay..thanks Jamie - bari always gets my vote btw - I prefer the Ronnie Cuber version ;-)

[@GetYourSaxTogether]

Yeh, I love that version. I love that he totally stacked the first phrase but they kept the take.

[@PaulThomas2]

Great video again - good to have some Bari focus. Thanks Jamie.

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No problem Paul 👍

[@isaiahd9947]

Man this makes me want to play the bari so badly 😩

[@johnd6378]

do it...best thing I ever did saxwise

[@GetYourSaxTogether]

Yeh, it does doesn't it!

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Yup!

[@marvkromash6428]

Leo P May have had a bigger audience, but I loved your presentation. Thx!

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Thank you too Marv!

[@johnskamnakis2501]

I think that if Pepper Adams made a mistake, Mingus would be the first to correct him. The original version sounds great to me. What do you think, Jamie? Great video, again!

[@GetYourSaxTogether]

Yeh, it's just kinda weird that the whole rest of the band play the riff different on the same recording. I just dunno!?

[@eddienail]

Nice one Jamie,invested in a bari a couple of weeks ago so looking forward to having a go at this 🎷

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Have fun!

[@brandifrewin8921]

👍👍👍👍👍nice im going to try this on my alto sax tmw And those bloopers at the end cracked me up😂😂

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Thanks!

[@jakeybrown101]

Hi Jamie, great lesson (as usual). Thinking of other baritone tracks, Dana Colley plays great bari solo on "Buena" by Morphine. would love see that one covered. Thanks again for giving up your Sunday lie in!!

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Great suggestion! Also, Walk On The Wild Side is a popular request.

[@geoffbeckett9743]

Great stuff again Jamie thank you

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Anytime Geoff.

[@ninakim7282]

Great.

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Thanks 🙏🏻

[@robstevens9590]

I was only familiar with Bobby Timmons' "Moanin'". Listening to the original Mingus, I cannot imagine that the D natural is a mistake; with this Pepper Adams adds something which sounds very "Mingus" to me. I actually prefer it to the '93 version where the bari plays the Db.

[@GetYourSaxTogether]

Yeh I guess I think that as well, although in the lesson I wimped out!

[@km6206]

I had a similar thought to you. The D actually makes sense to me. And, playing it in direct opposition to the Db is just very Mingus-like tension.

[@patemblen3644]

I like that, very cool!

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Thanks Pat.

[@ΔημήτρηςΤσεργάς-π7ι]

I haven't transcribed it yet and I don't know the harmony but he may played the B natural to create an altered chord [7/9 flat/(9 sharp)/ 11/ (11 sharp)/ 13 flat]. Sorry if this doesn't make sense, as I told you I don't know the harmony but nevertheless that's an option!

[@GetYourSaxTogether]

What altered chord? I understand an altered chord, but what root note?

[@thepianokid27]

Hi Jamie, really loving your “learn how to play___” series :) Could you teach us how to play Branford Marsalis’ sax solo on Shanice’s “I Love Your Smile”? Thanks! You are awesome mate! 🙏🏼

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I'll check it out!

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That's about as close as you'll ever hear Branford get to Smooth Jazz I reckon! lol Nice solo.

[@thepianokid27]

@@GetYourSaxTogether Hahaha! Yeah I thought it was a really beautifully articulated solo there! Hope you will consider featuring it on your channel some day! Cheers! :)

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Ben D I’ve got a few to get through, but one day I will!

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Get Your Sax Together looking forward to it! 👍🏼

[@markmontaquila2699]

You are the fkn MAN!!!!!

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Thanks Mark!

[@lisawanderess]

Awesome! 💗🎷

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Thanks a lot!

[@ryangjewell]

Any tips for the altissimo fingerings for the Ronnie Cuber intro?

[@GetYourSaxTogether]

Sorry I haven't transcribed it - don't know what the notes are.

[@athebeast1769]

What bari do you have? That’s a cool lookin one

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Just a Yamaha 32. Nothing fancy.

[@morganjennings3164]

Nice! 🏆🏆🏆

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:-)

[@KrisVComm]

Hey!! Is that Mouthpiece (Bari) a JJ DV Platinum 20th Anniversary? Schweet!

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Em... it's a JJ for sure, but not sure if it's a 20th anniversary. I've had it a while.

[@pengwin6929]

bari player here !!!! c:

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[@GRONKIN]

I duo tenor and bari

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nice!

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[@tonywolton]

Nice video but it made me stew a little. Pepper Adams play a wrong note? He was a master of the correct "wrong note", and him landing on a B natural instead of B flat made that riff the masterpiece it is. Landing on the B natural caused tension, a favourite trick from Pepper Adams.

[@GetYourSaxTogether]

Yeh, I know. I was really torn about that. Interestingly on all future recordings, even by the Mingus band, it’s “correct”, and even the rest of the band in that original take play the riff “correct”, so it was obviously written by Mingus that way. Who’s right who’s wrong? Real grey territory. 🧐

[@km6206]

@@GetYourSaxTogether Mingus did revise his own songs. One of his trumpet players mentioned how he changed some chords in some songs. I'd say that in the first recording that was the composition. And then, later it was then the updated composition. Call it 'variant 1' vs 'variant 2' or 'original' vs 'final.' As for 'who's wrong?,' no one. There's just different versions. Maybe Mingus wanted less tension a decade later for that song (or it could even just be what he felt like on that day for all I know). Which version should folks today play? Just play the one you like better.

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@@km6206 great comment 👍🏻

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Good job3:-)

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Thank you! Cheers!

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[@stevepovey2489]

I've just bought a Bari. Don't it take some puff!

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Can do, yeh. Make sure your reed isn't too hard though.

[@stevepovey2489]

I am using a 2 1/2. I normally use a 2 1/2 on Tenor or a 3 if it's Fibracell as I find they soften a bit after a while

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Steve Povey Cool. Good luck with the Bari, it’s a different beast!

[@stevepovey2489]

Indeed. thanks

[@theturtlerguy1236]

Sup

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Sup you.

[@km6206]

there's no way Pepper Adams made a mistake. You're insulting his intelligence.

[@km6206]

I also note that the trombones play that same D in the beginning matching the bari. If folks don't play that, it seems clearly revisionist to me - 'fixing' it is really simplifying it. As far as 'not making sense,' it does make sense if you think of the upper extensions of a half-diminished chord: the D shows up if you think of this as a half-whole diminished scale type of sound. Basically, Mingus is getting all the notes of that scale as the chord.

[@GetYourSaxTogether]

I agree with you actually.

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Fair point.

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