Learn to Love Backpacking in the Rain - CleverHiker.com

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Dave Collins

Dave Collins

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@blackrobe1987
@blackrobe1987 4 жыл бұрын
A piece of top-ten advice I've ever gotten: Rain gear is about keeping you warm, not keeping you dry.
@TheDcraft
@TheDcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Depends on time of year and where you are. Upstate New York during the summer has a subtropical climate, you're not worried about the cold.
@edscully8531
@edscully8531 4 жыл бұрын
Very good info. Rain can feel close & intimate with nature. I enjoy rain. Yet, sometimes it just won't be "safe". Slippery rocks and roots, or getting chilled and catching cold. Sometimes, we just need to go back. Only a few days ago, my wife & I planned a 2 night camp. The weather forecast (several sources) was good. NO indication of rain. All was well until we got about 15 miles from our camping area. Dark grey (angry storm) clouds formed over the mountains. We tried to continue and even set up the tent. But, alas the rain began and we were NOT adequately prepared. I had been at that very camp site before when a surprise storm hit. I knew how bad mountain weather could be. The hard choice was made. We packed up and went home. Disappointed, but safe. Sigh. My wife appreciated the consideration! Embrace the weather... But don't make your wife (partner) miserable and suffer. We will camp another time.
@davidson_oldbull_sectionhiker
@davidson_oldbull_sectionhiker 6 жыл бұрын
I think a great segment would be how to set up and break down camp in the rain. Thanks
@ozziejim8472
@ozziejim8472 7 жыл бұрын
I remember "wax your boots for water proofness" I soon learnt it keep em dry for 3 seconds longer and took longer too dry out........ahhhh those where the days!
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 7 жыл бұрын
Lol, I feel you on that one.
@Godisfirst21
@Godisfirst21 3 жыл бұрын
I'm heading out in 3 days. Learned lots from this video. thank you! I will have a GREAT attitude.
@Commander_HW
@Commander_HW 9 жыл бұрын
Usually when it begins to rain i'll start putting up my tent and make a hot cocoa on the side, when i'm done with my tent my hot cocoa will be ready for me, so i'll just sit in my tent and enjoy the my hot cocoa with the sound of rain hitting the top of my tent, it sounds so relaxing. The rain will stop by the time i'm done with with a nap in the tent, and i'll just put some plastic on my shoes and keep hiking.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 жыл бұрын
Erik W Good tip Erik. Thanks!
@TheDcraft
@TheDcraft 3 жыл бұрын
You guys do realize not everywhere is cold. Plenty of places are hot, even upstate NY has a subtropical climate during the summer.
@hermanpsnelling5264
@hermanpsnelling5264 2 жыл бұрын
I also make a Mountain House and place it inside my bag with me while waiting to for it to rehydrate. Warms my bag up nicely.
@nilredowski
@nilredowski Жыл бұрын
The best hiking in the rain video!
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I truly appreciate that.
@DaemonViews
@DaemonViews 7 жыл бұрын
Merino wool will keep you warmer when wet while synthetics generally don't but they dry out faster. You mention "when it is cold" but it is hard to have an idea of what you mean if you don't provide a rough temp range. I guess you are US based in a climate a bit different than Northern Europe, or the UK since hiking in shorts is rarely "warm enough" here. I found footcream to really help with keeping my feet healthy. I rub them with it in the evening and put on dry tent socks to sleep and in the morning before going in the wet socks rub them in again. Agree with all the other tips :) I should have seen this before having to learn the hard way. I do really hate the don't sweat too much comments :p. I'm one of those people that sweat a lot from the moment my heart rate goes up, unrelated to how warm/cold I am. In Iceland I hiked in a tshirt and a windbreaker at 5°C and it was windy as hell and still managed to sweat badly. Hence the merinowool to keep me warm because that baselayer is going to get soaked. All of my wet items outside of my tent. Check. Wet dog with long thick fur, shit xD (he sleeps inside the tent due to bugs and so).
@adityajoies
@adityajoies 8 жыл бұрын
I'm going solo next month. Especially a rainy place..thanks to you! This is the best 9 minutes that I have invested!
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Aditya! Glad to hear it was useful.
@ronshepard63
@ronshepard63 7 жыл бұрын
Aditya Jois Slyl Sx,desks,s
@dac11jmn
@dac11jmn Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great tips! Another item that is not so popular is a rain poncho (outdoor shops often sell ponchos large enough to include your backpack). That way yourself and your pack stay dry with just 1 item. This also prevents water from seeping in between your back and your pack. I always use a poncho. And you can use some of them as a tarp as well, just to create a dry area at camp. I sometimes wonder why ponchos aren't that popular? Mine is only 400 gram, that's not that heavy
@alexanderfriis1
@alexanderfriis1 8 ай бұрын
CuZ they don't lool cool haha. Honestly pochos beat jackets any day when you are trekking. However for more active activities like skiing or climbing a jacket is a must. For trekking however pochos are king. Also you don't need that high Water collum on a poncho. 3000-5000 is enough because there is no pressure on the material from your backpack to push Water through. If it is windy I also use a small rope to tie around my waist to keep it in place.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment and feedback. I agree, ponchos can be a useful tool, but I also don’t see them being used very often on the trail. I think this choice, like many things backpacking, comes down to personal preference. One key downside to ponchos is that theirbillowy nature tends not to fair very well in heavy wind. And I also agree that they look a bit dorky. But hey, who cares if it works well! Thanks again for the comment and happy hiking!
@Knatterklaus
@Knatterklaus 9 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! I'm hiking with the same attitude. If it rains, i will get wet. Whether the rain will do the job or the sweat beneath my raingear (wich claims to be breathable HAHAHA :D ). So I switched everything to fast drying clothes and shoes. Man, everythings better when you're hiking with trailrunners, get rid of those heavy boots guys, give it a try :) No more blisters, even when they're wet for days.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 8 жыл бұрын
+Knatterklaus Good tips! Thanks for sharing.
@TheConstantHiker
@TheConstantHiker 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. I discovered for myself some years ago on a backpacking trip that embracing the rain is the way to go. I wear non-waterproof trail runners now when hiking and would only switch back to boots in winter conditions.
@november151956
@november151956 9 жыл бұрын
Gold, solid gold Dave. Lots of great tips. Actually I enjoy hiking in the rain. More energy and fewer bugs. Glad you mentioned pack covers and their drawbacks. My so-called waterproof REI pack got soaked on the AT last May and added a lot of pounds to my base weight. I started to carry a pack cover, but will switch to bags per your advice.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 жыл бұрын
Appalachian Swede Thanks Swede! Yeah, it took me a few soaked packs to realize that pack covers just don't really cut it in constant rain. Lining the inside of your pack will work wonders, keep everything dry, and will cost you next to nothing. Thanks for the great comment!
@steffendeibler9591
@steffendeibler9591 8 жыл бұрын
nice video, thanks! useful tips for sure. in my experience drinking and having enough breaks in cold, windy and rainy weather is quite a challenge...
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 8 жыл бұрын
+Steffen Deibler Thanks! Yeah me too. I often get dehydrated when it's cold and wet because I'm just not thinking about drinking water. My breaks are really short too because moving keeps me warm.
@mamalovesthebeach437
@mamalovesthebeach437 9 жыл бұрын
I do beach hikes but usually shorter hikes and no rock climbing and usually for 2 hours or less. I have rain pants, water proof Merrell mid hikers and high quality windproof rain gear. I've never been soaking wet as I use my 'pit zips' and vents. I love hiking in the rain because so few people are out and I enjoy my alone time on the beach in a rainstorm. I'll be 60 and hiking outside my comfort zone keeps me young : )
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 жыл бұрын
Darris B. Nelson Thanks for the comment Darris. Way to get after it in the rain!
@teejay3272
@teejay3272 9 жыл бұрын
Another excellent clip. And your take about "you're going to get wet...just go with it" is right on the nut. Great job.
@WILDONTHETRAIL
@WILDONTHETRAIL 5 жыл бұрын
Some solid insight. Every newbie should watch this vid. To me, it falls into the mental preparation category.
@stephenhill6003
@stephenhill6003 8 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of ponchos, if its not too windy. I look like a dork, but it keeps me and my pack pretty dry and I don't seem to sweat as much.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 8 жыл бұрын
+Stephen Hill Thanks for the comment! I'm not really a poncho guy, but they do have some great benefits like you say.
@stegmonjurvinweirdt1834
@stegmonjurvinweirdt1834 4 жыл бұрын
Having something to use as a belt is the key. The Poncho is can be versatile, don't rust the snaps! With a belt you can stay dry/ warm.
@Lee-70ish
@Lee-70ish 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed Steve 100% I've used my 11 oz Highlander Poncho for years . Rucksack protection including the straps is a real bonus for even in wind when I use a gusset tie and pull in the sides with para cord . Used as a small messing tarp makes meals in rough weather so much nicer
@s0nnyburnett
@s0nnyburnett 9 жыл бұрын
Some good truths in this one. Hiking in the rain is the best. It's what I've prepared for and can test the limits of my gear as well as myself. Trails are mostly empty and what might seem like a boring area on a sunny day is suddenly way more interesting with fog or cloud cover.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 8 жыл бұрын
+s0nnyburnett Very good points! Well said.
@agentp6621
@agentp6621 9 жыл бұрын
I'm in the army and just finished basic training. During basic training my drill sergeant said that it is necessary to keep socks dry while in the field. If you don't, you risk getting trench foot or jungle rot. He said to hang socks on top of your ruck (pack) to dry when it isn't raining and to rotate your socks regularly. A light dusting of foot powder keeps moisture down and anti fungal powder keeps fungus from forming. I asked what to do about drying socks in extended rainy weather... I forgot. I was going on 3 hours of sleep. So I respectfully disagree with the idea of wearing wet socks over again. It's asking for trouble. When I go backpacking I like using military surplus gear. That was even before I joined. The standard issue poncho covers the body and can be draped over my pack to keep most of the rain off. Inside my pack everything is individually packed in waterproof containers. Food is stored 1 gallon ziploc vacuum bags. A full day's worth of food with snacks. Compacts things for more space and waterproofs it. Sleeping bag is surplus and consist of 2 sleeping bags that can be combined or used individually. It has a waterproof goretex outer cover that I put the bags in. Then put it in a water resistant stuff sack that then goes in a waterproof nylon carrier that attaches to the pack. The ruck has drain holes to allow water to drain in case it does get wet. The poncho makes for a good ground cloth or backup shelter in case my tent breaks.
@da1uth
@da1uth 9 жыл бұрын
5:50 If feet are wet during day, make sure they are dry and clean in the night...
@smellslikebeans
@smellslikebeans 6 жыл бұрын
I don't disagree with the keeping the feet dry. I will say I don't think it matters as much if you have breathable shoes. Military have to wear those God forsaken boots that let no water out. Most of my hiking shoes or boots are a breathable mesh. I filled my bottle up in a lake the other day, and a wake from a boat splashed my shoe soaking it. Before I got the next mile down my shoe, and sock was dry. I am against water proof because of this.
@illduitmyself
@illduitmyself 6 жыл бұрын
i was in the army also an 11B...they teach you nothing of real world wilderness. surplus junk even modern junk is heavy...if heavy..you wear out. be smart not a tough guy. tough guys never make it. go light and keep dry bottom line
@ronaldishome5243
@ronaldishome5243 5 жыл бұрын
@Blake universe I'm sorry but, I didn't read his post as a knowitall because of service affiliation. I read that as a person sharing his/her experience and drawing conclusions based off of his/her trial and error. I love reading posts about new ideas and what works for people. This helps us evolve and become more efficient through shared experiences. It enhances our trial and errors. This process is a life long process and we all have to start somewhere. By saying he is wrong, you can be perceived to be the Mr. Knowitall.
@ronaldishome5243
@ronaldishome5243 5 жыл бұрын
@@illduitmyself I do agree about the heavy military gear. Being from a military background myself(12b), my mind automatically directs me to the military packing list and always having extra just in case items. My very first 3 day backpacking trip was a rude awakening. My pack was at least 45 pounds, (military mentality). The next trip, my pack was around 26 pounds!😂🤣😂 We all learn through trial and error. Hopefully sooner than later!
@countinglampposts
@countinglampposts 8 жыл бұрын
Rubber boots make trekking in the rain much easier. They're loose and breath well, provide total water protection, can be stored outside the tent in a storm, and never need to be dried. If you grow tired of soggy swollen feet, I would strongly recommend hiking in rubber boots.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 8 жыл бұрын
+Chris McCarthy Thanks for the suggestion Chris! I'll give that a try and do some testing. I know Andrew Skurka tried going that route and didn't like it, but to each their own. Thanks for the comment!
@telebruce221
@telebruce221 3 жыл бұрын
Waterproof breathable socks, or VBL socks for camp. At the end of the day, I put on dry socks, my VBL or WPB sock over, then my wet boots. I have nice dry feet for camp life.
@prwoolrich
@prwoolrich 9 жыл бұрын
Someone suggested to me to use trash compacter bags to line my pack they work really well they are a thicker consistency than normal trash bags hence more durable and will keep your contents dry pack covers are more trouble than they're worth and restrict access to outside areas of your pack like water bottle pouches
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 жыл бұрын
PAUL WOOLRICH Good tip Paul! That's what I usually use too. Thanks for the comment!
@SixShootinHellfire
@SixShootinHellfire 8 жыл бұрын
New sub here, your vids are awesome and I couldn't agree with you more on ditching pack covers. If it rains for long enough your pack will be soaked either way as you've said. And they're a nightmare to repack once they're wet. I find having a couple dry sacs as opposed to 1 large one makes organizing easier and if one fails some of your gear will still remain dry.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 8 жыл бұрын
Good point Eric. Thanks for the great comment!
@alecwaltersmith
@alecwaltersmith 9 жыл бұрын
very nice to see some simplicity in rain hiking.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 жыл бұрын
alecwaltersmith Thanks!
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 7 жыл бұрын
it seems the best for rain, and more, is the rain poncho....covers you, your backpack and can be used as a shelter, and a bivy....
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 7 жыл бұрын
True, some hikers love ponchos, but I'm not a huge fan. You're pros are right on, but they don't provide as good of protection in windy weather. Storms can blow ponchos all over the place which will really limit their effectiveness. I personally prefer rain jackets and rain pants, especially when the weather could be cold. They help retain heat much better than ponchos. Still, some hikers love their ponchos. Good point.
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 7 жыл бұрын
I have a small rain or wind jacket that I will carry, for the purpose that you mentioned....in wind,,,and the same with pants....hopefully, that is the...ticket....
@Dr.Pepper001
@Dr.Pepper001 6 жыл бұрын
You left out one important consideration. Is there lightning? If so, it changes the whole scenario.
@TacBlades
@TacBlades 9 жыл бұрын
i am in the uk so most hiking and camping is in the rain, love it. :) i am considering switching to trail runners from army boots, but not for winter. I know all the argument for this so will try next year i think.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 8 жыл бұрын
+Tac Blades Thanks for the comment! Appreciate the insight. Let me know how the runners work out for you. Enjoy!
@TacBlades
@TacBlades 7 жыл бұрын
nunya well the trail runners are ok in summer, but not loads better than my para boots. Got caught in the mud and deep snow recently, and my para boots were awesome, kept me dry and warm, They are 15 years old now, so think i will buy another pair same or similar :)
@tullochgorum6323
@tullochgorum6323 7 жыл бұрын
For protecting the legs there are a couple of other options if you don't like rain-pants. First, you can wear a longer jacket and combine it with chaps. Chaps are less constricting and mean that your groin area is free to breathe. If you don't mind looking odd, you can also use a rain kilt. These will protect your shorts and keep everything vented. They weigh next to nothing, and are MUCH easier to get on and off than rain pants so are particularly useful in changeable weather. Combined with lightweight snow gaiters to protect your lower leg kilts can be extended into the winter, provided it's not too cold. I walk in barren areas where there's often nothing to sit on - hopping around on one leg in a howling gale trying to get into rain pants is no fun. Full-length leg zips can help, but are a pain with cold hands and zipz are prone to failure. For many scenarios, chaps and kilts are worth exploring.
@woodstrider5
@woodstrider5 6 жыл бұрын
good sound advise- thanks for the professional video. I know most of this 'cause I learned it from my experiences, but it would've been better to have had some level headed advise before-hand. Backpacking for >22 years, but still can learn a thing or two.
@robertboots9257
@robertboots9257 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You...Helpful.
@UPevo8
@UPevo8 9 жыл бұрын
Dexshell waterproof socks. Hiking topless in the rain is fun!
@Strange-Viking
@Strange-Viking 6 жыл бұрын
I got a jack wolfskin coat. 40000mm watercolumn yet very breathable. It wont get you wet at all. Very very little moisture build up, and thats rare. I am talking about oceanworthy clothing here. Hiked lots and lots in it in heavy rain and gale conditions. Im looking into getting a pants made by them too. Expensive though but worth it. Use a drybagbackpack and your stuff will always stay dry. Those arent expensive.
@Oldsparkey
@Oldsparkey 6 жыл бұрын
As far as wet feet , waterproof shoes get wet and then keep the water inside the shoe keeping your feet wet. Non waterproof shoes will get your feet wet but also will dry out , both the shoe and your feet. When I leave the house I can guarantee it will rain sometime during the trip defiantly more then just one time. So it's two pair of socks to wear and one pair for sleeping and around camp. I'll take the rain over heat any day , especially at night.
@gregflores8959
@gregflores8959 6 жыл бұрын
Chuck Littleton Agreed, moved away from my home state, the heat was oppressive and deadly
@jameshutto3047
@jameshutto3047 5 жыл бұрын
Some good tips here. There are things you can and should do to take good care of your feet
@thesoundpainterbkny3465
@thesoundpainterbkny3465 8 жыл бұрын
Best sleep ever is sleeping in your tent on a rainy dear. Not in bear country!
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 8 жыл бұрын
+Marcus Miles Great point. Rain falling on a tent creates a very soothing sound.
@marcinpreidl4058
@marcinpreidl4058 4 жыл бұрын
I Agree 100%. Just doing it now. Sooo relaxing 🙂
@friscoray2
@friscoray2 7 жыл бұрын
Great info. Thanks for taking the time and making this video.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! You're very welcome.
@speecher1959
@speecher1959 9 жыл бұрын
Dave, your videos are the best! Thanks!
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 8 жыл бұрын
+Kevin Johnson Thank you! What a nice comment. Much appreciated.
@texmexia49
@texmexia49 4 жыл бұрын
Good points.
@Peteypotamus
@Peteypotamus 8 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for the music! Emancipator for the win.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 8 жыл бұрын
+Matthew Peters I'm with you on that! Thanks for the comment.
@somefuckstolemynick
@somefuckstolemynick 9 жыл бұрын
My new favorite channel! Great stuff!
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 8 жыл бұрын
+Fredrik Wahlgren Thanks!
@chrisolson6629
@chrisolson6629 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info
@hilarybenoit2926
@hilarybenoit2926 9 жыл бұрын
I love rain!
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 8 жыл бұрын
+Hilary Benoit Lol! That's a good start. This backpacking in the rain thing will be easy for you!
@laxisusous
@laxisusous 9 жыл бұрын
I leave my rain jacket at home, and use an umbrella instead. For footwear I use the Vivobarefoot Ultra shoe. It dries in five minutes. For maps or other paper items I coat them with clear acrylic spray paint (both sides).
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 жыл бұрын
Lyle Lange Hey Lyle, that's an interesting idea about the acrylic spray paint. That keeps your maps waterproof? Does it hold up over time? If that works well, it would be very effective.
@laxisusous
@laxisusous 9 жыл бұрын
I make photocopies of the section I will be hiking so I don't have to worry about it degrading. But a map that gets wet without a coating is going fall apart quickly. You have to get at least one coat on each side. Test it out at home to see if that works for you.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 жыл бұрын
Lyle Lange Interesting idea Lyle. Thanks for the tip!
@tullochgorum6323
@tullochgorum6323 6 жыл бұрын
Horses for courses - above the tree-line it's usually too windy for umbrellas, so they're rarely seen in Europe. In the the UK the two main sources for maps both provide waterproof options - don't you have that in the US? The Harvey maps in particular are great - they are printed on a tough waterproof plastic that's still thin enough to fold well. It should become the standard solution. The official OS maps come in a laminated option, but this is more bulky than the Harvey solution.
@boom001a
@boom001a 5 жыл бұрын
im going on a hike tomorrow in Ireland and its giving heavy rain, thanks for the info.
@tommythecatofficial32actual
@tommythecatofficial32actual 5 жыл бұрын
You had me at a positive attitude Much love from MI I’ll be going to Boundary Waters in July I hope we do get a little rain because this vid will help me be prepared for it
@jamesbrennan3744
@jamesbrennan3744 7 жыл бұрын
I always carry the super-light "OR Alpine Bivy" to pitch inside my tent. If caught in a multi-day rain storm, it doesn't matter how wet my tent gets on the inside. This Bivy is constructed of waterproof Gortex throughout. It's slightly "hooped" to prevent "nose contact" from above and to lessen the effect of claustrophobia. It also comes with bug-proof netting for mosquitos, and is large enough for your sleeping bag and pad. An added benefit is that if fatigue overtakes you at quitting time, and with weather permitting, you can just use the Bivy for the night without going to the trouble of pitching your tent. The reason I'm specifically recommending the "OR Alpine" is that it is completely waterproof and really light. I suppose any other brand of Bivy would suffice as long as it's truly waterproof and super-light. (I don't work for OR.) When necessary, it will serve as your little cocoon inside your tent, guaranteeing a warm, dry night's sleep even when your tent is awash in rain water. The "OR Alpine" is quite pricey at about $250, but well worth it in my humble opinion. I was caught in the remnants of a hurricane coming off the Pacific Ocean while walking south 500 miles on the Cassiar Road (Rt. 37) in remote western British Columbia. Eight straight days of intense rain and high winds, living on energy bars and rain water while walking 15 miles a day. The only thing that saved me was my trusty "OR Alpine Bivy". It's the first thing I pack when heading out camping. It's my "security blanket."
@adventureswithfrodo2721
@adventureswithfrodo2721 8 жыл бұрын
I keep my 5x9 silnylon tarp handy to cover me and my pack. Also Ike a sells a very nice rain cape. also consider an umbrella.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 7 жыл бұрын
Good tips, thanks!
@kikonyc68
@kikonyc68 6 жыл бұрын
A question from an inexperienced one. When you have a rainfly over your tent in the rain and it gets wet, do you pack your rainfly separately from your tent the next morning to keep your tent from getting wet as opposed to packing it with your wet rainfly? I'm asking this because I just recently bought my first tent and it came in just one bag with everything folded inside.
@Shane7492
@Shane7492 3 жыл бұрын
Much easier (and lighter) to use a single walled tent.
@canyonoverlook9937
@canyonoverlook9937 9 жыл бұрын
Do you wear your New Balance when you are hiking in the low 30's? I was wearing the same ones you use when I was out in temps about 30 and I could feel the wind come right through the top. I wasn't hiking at the time, just walking from the car to the gym. I guess I really won't be hiking too often at that temp, but I assume you have. I wore running shoes with the mesh top when it was about 45 and it was fine. Would you wear the New Balance trail runners if you were going through an occasional snowfield early in the season? I'm just trying to figure out when not to wear the lighter shoes and I should wear boots, What terrain would you not wear light shoes. What about if there is a lot of scree? Are the New Balance trail runners good the for John Muir Trail? Bigger boots/shoes hurt my knees.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 жыл бұрын
Canyon Overlook Yup, I find that running shoes work well in cold temperatures (in the 30s and 40s) if there isn't a lot of snow. Early season spring snow is easy to cross in trail runners and cold temperatures don't bother me either. I use microspikes for extra traction when there is a bit of snow and ice on my treks. If the trip is going to be especially snowy and cold, I wear boots. Scree fields don't bother me at all in trail runners. Also, check out these two resources - www.cleverhiker.com/blog/ditch-boots/ and kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3qodWScrcSifNk
@taylorwsims
@taylorwsims 6 жыл бұрын
If you know you're going to be walking all day in wet shoes you can rub tea tree oil on the bottom and edges of your feet and in between your toes. Helps to cut down on the funk! Some people also swear by rubbing vasoline on their feet for blister prevention.
@thelakeman5207
@thelakeman5207 2 жыл бұрын
I always check the weather before going hiking. The lighter the pack, the better.
@sujitnewar
@sujitnewar 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent video. Please give link for those Black color Rain Coat and pant, showed in the video
@packmule9892
@packmule9892 9 жыл бұрын
New subscriber...enjoying your videos. Good tips! I prefer hiking in the rain and do so whenever I get the opportunity. Sure beats the heat!
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 8 жыл бұрын
+Pack Mule Thanks! Glad you're enjoying the vids.
@SpriceMachines
@SpriceMachines 9 жыл бұрын
So helpful! Thank you!
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 жыл бұрын
Sprice Machines You're very welcome!
@SpriceMachines
@SpriceMachines 9 жыл бұрын
going with some friends to Pictured Rocks in northern Michigan in a couple days and the weather forecast is not so great
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 жыл бұрын
Sprice Machines Sorry to hear about the weather but I'm sure you'll still have a fantastic trip!
@utubit22
@utubit22 6 жыл бұрын
wow this was detailed!! Thanks man :D
@seakayaker1470
@seakayaker1470 5 жыл бұрын
Great advice thank you.
@stephentuck6607
@stephentuck6607 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, Great video. What do you think about waterproofing your pack with waterproofing/water repellent spray plus dry bags instead of using a pack cover?
@MrZimmaframe
@MrZimmaframe 7 жыл бұрын
Hope can you make a video of hiking in the rain when you are wearing running shoes? You're at a much greater risk of breaking your ankle and also providing no water protection. Walking boots are a must, ankle protection and water repellent coatings are a must too for multi day hikes. It's better to walk with dry feet for half the day than having wet feet all day. At night time boil water and put it in a metal bottle which can be put inside your shoes to dry throughout the night, this can also be applied in the morning if you hate putting your feet into cold wet shoes. In the England rain is the most common weather so i'm use to having to deal with the damp environments. There was a lot of useful points in this video.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 7 жыл бұрын
Hi MrZimma, Thanks for the comment! I must disagree with your take on boots for ankle support and water protection. Most experts on the subject suggest that on wet multi-day backpacking trips, your feet are going to get wet one way or another, so it's better to go with lightweight shoes that will dry quicker. I'm currently in the process of doing detailed testing on this very point, and the results are showing the same findings. Waterproof shoes won't keep my feet dry in prolonged wet conditions. Don't just take my word on it though, feel free to research and you'll likely find the same results.
@MrZimmaframe
@MrZimmaframe 7 жыл бұрын
You haven't addressed ankle support
@John-go2is
@John-go2is 7 жыл бұрын
Oddly I prefer the old combat boot with the proper socks. Even on some float trips on shallow rivers I prefer them. Solid footing and ankle support during ports. Many times the people with me on trips have remained wet while my feet have remained dry throughout the trip. Once they do get wet inside they do take a long time to dry out fully. The weight of them can be taxing.... But, the thin shoes worry me for real foot protection.
@tullochgorum6323
@tullochgorum6323 7 жыл бұрын
I have an ankle weakened by a recurrent injury so I have checked out the evidence on this one, such as it is. There's nothing very convincing to prove that old-style walking boots prevent ankle injury. If they are loose enough to walk in, then they are not very protective. A boot high enough and rigid enough to really protect the ankle would be very unpleasant to walk in. And in any case, it would often simply move the injury up the leg to a different place - look at how often skiers in rigid boots break their lower leg. Also,a rigid boot would be heavy and increase fatigue. Fatigue is a major cause of accidents. Finally, rigid boots reduce proprioception and inhibit the natural functioning of the foot and ankle - I suspect that they cause at least as many accidents as they prevent. I've looked at the mountain rescue figures for the English Lake District - they attend an ankle-related incident almost every day. I've asked a rescue leader, and he said that the great majority were wearing conventional boots. So the traditional boot is certainly no guarantee of safety. If you do have a weak ankle, doing some simple strengthening exercises can greatly reduce your risk of injury. And on really difficult ground, I wear a lightweight sports brace (the one Andy Murray uses) that gives much more effective protection than any boot.
@John-go2is
@John-go2is 7 жыл бұрын
Disagree completely. My (Military) boots offer very solid support around the foot as well as support the ankle without limiting function. Tree climbing, rock , dirt, mud, river bottom and have never had a foot or ankle injury. Have never felt at all impaired. (Henc, the reason the military use boots and not shoes :P). Will agree they can become very heavy over time. 30+ mile hikes for example.
@TheDcraft
@TheDcraft 3 жыл бұрын
The Army teaches the opposite about dry socks. It's important to take care of your feet since that's what you're using all day and you're kind of fooked if they become compromised. Also you keep on talking about cold and staying warm. You know not everywhere is cold. Even in upstate NY, you're not worried about staying warm from late May to early September.
@Tonytango
@Tonytango 4 жыл бұрын
Wiggys for dry when wet
@luciusgarvous
@luciusgarvous 3 жыл бұрын
I miss this channel!
@vincentmiceli2554
@vincentmiceli2554 8 жыл бұрын
What method do you employ to put your rain pants on when it starts to rain? How or what do you do to keep mud from your shoes from getting inside the rain pant legs?
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 8 жыл бұрын
+Vincent Miceli I just loosen up the laces of my shoes, take my foot out and balance on one leg while I put my foot through the leg hole and then back into my shoe. No fuss and no mud inside my pants.
@Lucasalastuey
@Lucasalastuey 9 жыл бұрын
All this tips are from the book Andrew Skurka :$, however it's great to remember.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 жыл бұрын
Lucas alastuey Haha, I haven't read Skurka's book, but I hear it's a great read and I'm definitely supportive of his work. So thanks!
@gerardjones7881
@gerardjones7881 Жыл бұрын
people are killed by exposure, they get wet, can't get dry and lose the ability to regulate their body temp. Cold temps are easier to deal with. Exposure can kill at moderate temps.
@aurorad3522
@aurorad3522 6 жыл бұрын
I dislike wearing pure synthetics because it's like wearing saran wrap and makes me sweat. I prefer boots for several reasons, perhaps because I grew up in the 90s and wore doc martins all the time and then I was in the military. I really don't like mesh shoes because they catch every effing foxtail you come acraoss and practically suck in dirt and sand, which makes blistering worse.
@FlashGeiger
@FlashGeiger 9 жыл бұрын
Like they say, there is no bad weather, only wrong clothing. (Although I expect "they" don't live in a hurricane prone area)
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 жыл бұрын
FlashGeiger Good point!
@alexashitomi9497
@alexashitomi9497 6 жыл бұрын
Someone can tell me where I can find places like the one shown in 7:43? I am searching places with big rock walls like in the 127hours movie. I find these places very beautiful! Sorry my english and cheers from Brazil!
@MrBluesfly
@MrBluesfly 5 жыл бұрын
Embrace the nature
@TheSujitbhise
@TheSujitbhise 6 жыл бұрын
Very informative
@canyonoverlook9937
@canyonoverlook9937 9 жыл бұрын
Do you wear your trail runners crossing a stream? Do you take your socks off when crossing?
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 жыл бұрын
Canyon Overlook I almost always wear my trail runners when I'm crossing streams. Going barefoot can be dangerous if the river crossing isn't sandy and clear. I will usually take off my socks unless they are already wet. That helps to keep my feet dryer later in the day. If I have a bunch of river crossings, like when trekking through the high Sierras, I'll just leave my socks on and trek through the streams. Stopping to put on and take off your socks all the time can get annoying if there are a lot of streams to ford. I also have a river fording video coming out in a few weeks, so stay tuned!
@danross7441
@danross7441 9 жыл бұрын
Ha! The closing statement was so depressing!
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 жыл бұрын
Dan Ross Lol, depressing but so true!
@emilstahle6531
@emilstahle6531 7 жыл бұрын
intro music?
@komalley35
@komalley35 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know why more people don't use the combo poncho/pack cover made by Packa. It's like the best kept secret out there.
@douglasmihalik867
@douglasmihalik867 2 жыл бұрын
I have the e-vent model in a Large with factory seam sealing. It leaks like a screen door on a submarine. The placket over the front zipper is not secured in anyway; even a breeze - exposes the zipper (which is huge) to the rain and rain pours in. The e-vent fabric wets through almost instantly, and the tape on the seams, especially the neck, lets the rain in almost the same as the front zipper. I have yet to find a good DWR that works with e-vent.
@ballardgraybeard
@ballardgraybeard 9 жыл бұрын
I wish you had added a short segment on hiking with an umbrella. I learned long ago that I sweat way too much with any kind of rain gear on. For me, using an umbrella is a perfect choice. I know there are many hikers who scoff at me when I'm hiking in the rain with an umbrella, but I'm dry and comfortable so really, what do I care! The umbrella I use is silvered on the outside which also serves me well on 95-degree days in the blazing sun. Just sayin - do what works for you.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 жыл бұрын
Mark Whitesell Really good points Mark. I hear good things about hiking with umbrellas from UL folks and I see them on the trail every now and then, but I've never hiked with one myself. I'm a jacket and hood guy, but I should try it out. Thanks for the comment!
@AnnaN-lp6uf
@AnnaN-lp6uf 9 жыл бұрын
Mark Whitesell Hi Mark, What is the brand name of your hiking umbrella? Thank you.
@ropeyarn
@ropeyarn 5 жыл бұрын
FWIW, Not just any umbrella will do. The nylon should be coated, like a tent rain fly. Most household umbrellas are uncoated and a fine mist gets through, and over time will soak you.
@andredeketeleastutecomplex
@andredeketeleastutecomplex 2 жыл бұрын
Have an umbrella, and take enough breaks to prevent sweating.
@terman282
@terman282 9 жыл бұрын
Remember that running shoes are made for running, not hiking. if you choose shoes for your hike, choose proper hiking shoes instead. this will give you a better experience. beside that, Great video with tons of good informations :-)
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 8 жыл бұрын
+Tobias Terman Olsen Thanks for the comment! There's a different way to think about hiking footwear these days - www.cleverhiker.com/blog/ditch-boots - I'm a trail running shoe guy through and through. Much better for me, and many others. Thanks for the input!
@Commander_HW
@Commander_HW 9 жыл бұрын
5:58 Look at that facial expression on him when he's putting on that sock. Man you gotta do some flexibility workout. lol
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 жыл бұрын
Erik W Lol! That was my attempt at acting! The sock was supposed to be wet and cold. Though I could definitely practice more flexibility.
@Kingofcarnige
@Kingofcarnige 8 жыл бұрын
What is the tent at about 8:20? And would you recommend it? Looks like a single wall
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 8 жыл бұрын
That's one of my old Sierra Designs car camping tents. Way too heavy and bulky for backpacking these days. Instead, check out this list of my favorite tents - www.cleverhiker.com/best-tents-backpacking/
@neshachristian-hendrickson5598
@neshachristian-hendrickson5598 8 жыл бұрын
What's the best shoes and jackets for women?
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Nesha, here are my favorite jackets - www.cleverhiker.com/jackets/ and shoes - www.cleverhiker.com/blog/ditch-boots
@AaronDennis
@AaronDennis 7 жыл бұрын
A lightweight umbrella is a very good alternative to a w/b jacket. It will breath better than a jacket and is very versatile.
@tullochgorum6323
@tullochgorum6323 7 жыл бұрын
Fair enough, if you walk in sheltered places. If you are out in driving rain above the treeline, umbrellas (and ponchos) are pretty much useless.
@dw6505
@dw6505 5 жыл бұрын
"Rainy rainy Allegheny"
@eva.866
@eva.866 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know how to wash and dry your dirty clothes during a long rain track?
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 4 ай бұрын
Washing your clothes is usually fairly easy to do if there is clean water around, but drying clothing is very tricky in long prolonged rainstorms where there is a lot of moisture in the air. Usually your best bet is to keep a dry set of clothing to wear only in your tent at night. The next day, when it is time to hike, put back on your wet clothing from the day before, so you can keep your tent clothing dry at all costs. Make sure to line your backpack or use waterproof stuff sacks and be very careful to keep important gear and clothing dry inside your backpack.
@eva.866
@eva.866 4 ай бұрын
@@CleverHiker thanks! That was very helpful!
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 4 ай бұрын
You’re very welcome! Happy hiking.
@Eminia999
@Eminia999 8 жыл бұрын
you can put your feet in sandwich bags or small plastic bags before putting them into shoes-it kind of helps. That with talcum powder.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting idea. I doubt it would do much good in the long run though.
@theothergu343
@theothergu343 9 жыл бұрын
what is the song in the beginning?
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 жыл бұрын
theothergu343 That's Emancipator. He's awesome.
@benson5468
@benson5468 4 жыл бұрын
We have no choice here in the UK
@gortnewton4765
@gortnewton4765 4 жыл бұрын
I like rain - why do people dislike it? I like all weather. Did you ever be with someone who WHINES about the weather? That's no fun.
@jerseattle0722
@jerseattle0722 2 жыл бұрын
life lessons here
@raylow304
@raylow304 9 жыл бұрын
hey, would like to see a RAP version yo!!! lol
@timothyeubanks32100
@timothyeubanks32100 8 жыл бұрын
yeah, pack covers are practically worthless. dont even bother purchasing one. the best use for a pack cover is honestly to get a bright orange one for hiking in hunting areas. thats about it.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Thanks!
@IT-Entrepreneur
@IT-Entrepreneur 8 жыл бұрын
Whats your West / Jacket?
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 8 жыл бұрын
Here are my current fave jackets - www.cleverhiker.com/jackets/
@IT-Entrepreneur
@IT-Entrepreneur 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@Skellingtor
@Skellingtor 9 жыл бұрын
Love the vids, but please change your pants.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 8 жыл бұрын
+Skellingtor Lol, I wash frequently. Noted. Thanks!
@Skellingtor
@Skellingtor 8 жыл бұрын
+Dave Collins (CleverHiker) banana pants :)
@andersonbush3999
@andersonbush3999 9 жыл бұрын
No mention of umbrellas or ponchos? Come on dudes!
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 8 жыл бұрын
+Anderson Bush Yeah, I'm not a poncho or umbrella guy. To each their own though. Umbrellas aren't any good when it's windy, which happens often in rain storms. Also I like to keep my hands free. I don't like the way ponchos look or function in the rain either. I prefer a jacket. That's just my two cents though.
@andersonbush3999
@andersonbush3999 8 жыл бұрын
+Dave Collins (CleverHiker)HYOH, but these are how to videos and other hikers may benefit from perspective on other ways to stay out of the rain.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 8 жыл бұрын
Good point and well taken. I appreciate the suggestion and I'll definitely find a way to work it in to my content. Thanks!
@1houndgal
@1houndgal 4 жыл бұрын
@@andersonbush3999 I would rather rely on a jacket than an umbrella. I used to put a poncho in my bag, but switched to a light jacket because you can stay warmer with the jacket. Wind and rain gets though cheap ponchos.
@yuxuandeng9677
@yuxuandeng9677 8 жыл бұрын
I Cant Imagine Wet FEET!!!!!! OMG worst thing ever, I think id be a good idea to try and prevent it but still be ready to have wet feet.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 7 жыл бұрын
Good point, I'm not talking about winter travel here. Thanks!
@bilgegnome9308
@bilgegnome9308 5 жыл бұрын
I've certainly done the cold, wet feet experience. By the end of day two, the skin peeled right off along with my socks. The next morning, my feet barely squeezed into my boots they were so puffy. I won't describe the final 3 days of that trip. Ouch!!!
@1houndgal
@1houndgal 4 жыл бұрын
Walking around with wet feet in shoes for too long can cause infections. I got an infection doing that while working a hot day at a large local animal shelter. The infection can get dangerous.
@komalley35
@komalley35 4 жыл бұрын
Leave the gortex home and bring a positive attitude instead.
@r.w.7232
@r.w.7232 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry... I love hiking and backpacking, but I have no desire to love to do it in the rain. No matter how prepared you are for it, it's still no fun.
@hackneyrachel9260
@hackneyrachel9260 3 жыл бұрын
The rabid sociology internally radiate because pants reilly fry given a righteous beard. busy, taboo paperback
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