Learning got buffed! Loynis may be OP...

[@entarork1]

Learning, Eagle eye, Pathfinding, Mysticism seems fixed for good. Very good skills. Artillery, Balistics, First aid, Sorcery as well. Wish also Scholar gave you lvl 3,4 spells without Wisdom. Overall very good update from HotA. I am having a blast with experimenting! I also wished they coulda fix those single target spells like Slayer, Disrupting ray, Fire shield, Magic mirror etc. I dont think these weak single-targeted spells would be used ever by player as viable priority. I think a viable experimental idea could be to apply it to multiple targets but not all. Like Berserk AoE for buffs like fire shield and magic mirror with lower % dmg/resist numbers. Slayer, Disrupting ray should have higher attack/defense stats simply. +8 Slayer is not even better than +6 Bloodlust for entire army against opponent entire enemy army.

[@egoreremeev9969]

Disrupting ray is pretty good but in some cases. When the opp's army is only one unit you can lower his defence permanently for the battle with 1 spell and he cannot do anything with it. However, it's easily countered by anti-magic, which opp would probably have...

[@ZeRedSpy]

I feel like they are very adverse to changing spell balance. The goal is to have the game feel as much like the OG as possible while smoothing out the outliers. I wouldn’t mind them buffing weaker spells, but I can see why they might think it goes too far. I like them buffing the spell specialists though; that feels like a good compromise.

[@entarork1]

@@ZeRedSpy I oppose. 4 more basically unused spells changed would not change any feel of old game on top of their 100 changes they done already

[@20dollarshirt]

Learning seems ok, it's way better than before but I think it's being overrated due to the buff. In this game for example it only gave +3 levels over opponent, which were more or less the levels he got from picking the skill, so the +75% exp had negligible effect. It's also worth considering that 3 levels only gives +3 random stats, which is not worth a secondary skill slot. Maybe in a very long game where you end up many levels ahead of opponent or if you have a very good Specialty, then it can be situationally worth it

[@entarork1]

@@20dollarshirt I think best way is to immidiately lvl up learning to 3, but alas it not always get u that choice and then it sucks. Exp gain from chests, neutral fights ramps up so fast, practically if you pick 1 chest, opponent has to pick 2.

[@Craxxet]

For people looking for the HotA balance changes: - Eagle Eye gives the hero a 40/50/60% chance to learn each opponent's 1-3/4/5 level spell before starting a combat and when a spell is cast in battle. Allows the player to view 1-3/4/5 level spells in the opponent's spellbook in combat. If both heroes have Eagle Eye, it is mutually blocked (similar to Tactics) - Learning increases the hero's experience gains by 25/50/75%. Gives the hero an extra level-up immediately when picking or upgrading the skill - Pathfinding now reduces the standard cost of a cross-country step by 25/50/75 down to a minimum of 95/90/85 - Sorcery now increases spell damage by 10/20/30% - Mysticism now allows the hero to restore 10/20/30% of his maximum spell points per day, but no less than 5/10/15 Also Artillery/First Aid/Ballistics protect the Catapult/FA-tent/Ballista & Cannon respectively preventing them from losing more than 40% HP in a single hit.

[@innokentysergeev254]

Also Ballista and Cannon attack calculations have been buffed, Ballistics make the Catapult more accurate, and FA Tent passively gives all your creatures 5%/10%/15% HP.

[@stassenchr]

Thank you for your post, would be even better if you said what it was before the changes

[@scarywhite9422]

Is the update out for everyone yet? I updated my launcher but the skills are still their old self like learning for instance.

[@guest273]

You need to manually download the 1.7.2 launcher. All big updates need be downloaded manually.

[@groopsecks]

When you equip an earth tome while already having fly dd tp chain shower prayer just so you can finally shield.

[@ossiejones9174]

Probably more-so for anti-magic I would have thought

[@Ron-theGlove]

Also, not seeing any of the new foilage or outdoor stuff yet. I'm a huge map maker.....

[@guest273]

I want to see Kinkeria the learning specialist hero rack up to level 50 vs a level 25 opponent. Xd

[@pytecantropus]

love you bro!! very entertaining game.

[@1thevm1]

Learning seems pretty mandatory on many templates as of now, just like HoMM's main series, M&M, where Learning has incredible value if you want to keep leveling fast and efficient.

[@Fera-gr5mm]

Finally has that arcade "exp boost" feeling.

[@michazmuda1477]

Heroes 5 also had boost in Learning, where it give addional primary skills boost along with experience.

[@nathanliteroy9835]

@@michazmuda1477 Yeah, I wish they went this route with Learning

[@mustacheBpf]

@@nathanliteroy9835 me too! Wish they implement the heroes 5 version of learning

[@Beordstin]

​@@nathanliteroy9835would be too OP. In the HoMM5 good stats from learning were compensated by better other options included abilities. And it was still OP. In HoMM3 you have 8 skill slots instead of 5 so you can't give too many stats for the skill slot. Learning gives you +3 primary stats until ~16-20 lvl plus quicker speciality bonus so for the most part of templates it is quite powerful.

[@MarimoMusicHead]

Was waiting with Archangels on turn one the play, instead of just hitting either angels or wyverns? He lost 11 Archs without doing a thing...

[@egoreremeev9969]

He lost 11 Archs on 1 hit from frenzied angels. If he went in he would've gotten retaliation + hit from either frenzied angels or wyverns, which would be >11. So comparatively he went for the best option.

[@ossiejones9174]

@@egoreremeev9969 getting a bit sick of all these people posting stupid comments about why Lexi is waiting instead of suiciding his army into the opponent. There are some cases where it can be the best option, but as a general rule it's a bad move. It's pretty much one of the basic concepts of Heroes 3

[@millancche]

What graphics setting are you using?

[@darkysnif]

Is it possible to cast cure to heal the first aid tent and reset the amount of hits needed to kill it? May be a worthwile cast if it preserves a large amount of hp no?

[@szyna8540]

Yes, there are already strategies where you lure 1 stack of infinite strength to your tent or balista and just cure it infinitely while shooting with your units at it

[@qkhuve]

@@szyna8540 Sounds cheesy tbh 😅

[@guest273]

I think war-machines can't be cured...

[@szyna8540]

@@guest273 they can, i am already using this trick

[@guest273]

@@szyna8540 Oooh. Interesting to hear. Perhaps it's time I check it out myself. I can image that such an exploit could make some near impossible fights actually doable.

[@Ron-theGlove]

2 Crests of Moral...do they both work on a single hero or not? This would apply to 2 Carts of Wood as well? I never really looked at these things before....

[@MrFixZet]

Only not resource arty, thats work in doble is eye of dragon ring for 1 def and 1 off, ANY other not resource duplicates NOT working...

[@guest273]

@@MrFixZet Well, technically the Legion artifacts also stack, but you need 2 heroes in the town with them on day 7...

[@Ron-theGlove]

I just downloaded changes. No armadillo skulls in map editor. I must not have gotten uploads. I tried it multiple times - keeps telling me that I have all uploads. I even shut off computer and restarted.

[@petervlcko4858]

How first aid pair with necro and demon farming? Are you gonna test it?

[@spltorky]

I've always read his name with a French accent: Loahnee :)) (the s at the end would be silent :P)

[@mateuszs72]

Imagine we survived to the moment where pro players desperately want skills like learning and first aid xDDD cant wait till I experience it myself

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

Is there any bonus given to a player's points or rating if they still have a reset by the end of the match (win or lose)?

[@VigomGaming]

No

[@mmarkusgaming]

14:39 scouting

[@efromm23]

how can you make game for one hero only? i have only duel template wiht that setting :(

[@jordancobilanschi3662]

where can we download this map?

[@comerb2]

I want to know also!

[@andyshtroymish4997]

It's template, not a map. Template's name is up the screen

[@marekadamovic7629]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5fUhZh8l9aXjsU

[@jordancobilanschi3662]

@@andyshtroymish4997 I know but I don't have it, the game is updated etc but I don't have it.

[@jordancobilanschi3662]

@@marekadamovic7629 doesn't appear in my game

[@Chessinator936]

Why didnt the Archis get hurt from the arma? What am i missing

[@AlexanderBalchev]

Anti-magic

[@ponyhelena2300]

Lexiav Will you marry Me.

[@dread-shinobi]

He has a cat.

[@sticktothefacts8905]

@@dread-shinobi He has Ame

[@promoniewiadomo9533]

Shiet so it is a no for me too?

[@andyshtroymish4997]

Hold on a minute here! Mirth has nefred to 1 stack only? Sorrow also? They're obsolete now!

[@Crazy-Drokon]

You need expert school for mass cast, always has been?

[@andyshtroymish4997]

@Crazy-Drokon didn't opp use mass-water or Imma hallucinating rn?!?!

[@ossiejones9174]

@@andyshtroymish4997 you can see the opponents hero skill tree just after the final battle

[@Icthi]

Such a sad start to this one :(

[@karolwojtyla5740]

Holy, 1 minute ago is kinda crazy

[@asdfdsf-s4u]

FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!

[@niki8280]

What happens if you start with Learning? Do you still get the insta-level?

[@eyeofmagi8088]

Kinda just watch the 1st few seconds he did not. But was really close for free level.

[@dread-shinobi]

You get 1000 free xp and then you have to gain any xp elsewhere chest/box/fight to claim the level up. If you gain learning or level up learning at a higher level you technically get more flat xp than the level one start.

[@niki8280]

@@eyeofmagi8088 I watched the first minutes. I did not see the level 2 so I decided to ask you guys about how it worls exactly. Thanks

[@niki8280]

@@dread-shinobi thank you

[@dark786543]

I dont like this template

[@adrianeklowcabramek]

Not a fan of this template

[@topi2209]

very stuppid magic...

[@MarimoMusicHead]

Was waiting with Archangels on turn one the play, instead of just hitting either angels or wyverns? He lost 11 Archs without doing a thing...