Learning Malthael | Heroes of the Storm Gameplay

[@azurblueknights]

As someone who plays Malthael quite a bit, against this team you really should have picked up Fear the Reaper (increases your movement speed and makes you unblockable) and Inevitable End (makes you unstoppable at the cost of removing all Marks). Fear the Reaper would essentially ensure you'd never have anything to fear from an Artanis swap, and Inevitable would have completely screwed over that Diablo's engages upon you. Soul Collector probably would have also been a good idea here, as the .5 second off its CD and increased range would have made your own engages and retreats with it far more smooth and impactful. As a matter of fact, going a complete Q build would have really worked in your favor here since they only had the two melee, and therefore the only two who'd ever be in super close proximity with each other. There were very few times you ever had his trait on more than a single hero target, which meant Die Alone also would have put in some solid work.

[@orion7060]

Absolutely agree. Not to mention that Black Harvest imo doesn't give enough value and takes too long to complete. I would have gone full q build + inevitable end at 13 (which is usually my go to anyways, a +0.75% of healing is usually unnoticeable and the other talents usually get much more value). At level one my reasoning usually is: do they have displacement or slippery heroes (e.g. Lunara)? Yes -> fear the reaper No -> is the map big or small? Big -> on a pale horse Small -> death's reach It has to be said that imo Malthael doesn't have much build variety, q build is significantly better than the rest.

[@azurblueknights]

@@darkopz Well sure, but I didnt mention anything about his ult choices. I merely pointed out talent choices he could have taken to better counter the enemy team

[@azurblueknights]

@@darkopz Ah, fair enough. Really wish the execute wasn't the only choice.

[@orion7060]

Tormented souls need to be reworked. The cleaving attack makes the ult mostly void

[@aaronmontgomery2055]

@@azurblueknights it is too good not to chose

[@skyguy713]

Hi ho Silver, away!

[@theultimatepotatolord6619]

In the words of Daffy Duck: "Hi ho Tinfoil, away!"

[@xxyorobxx199]

ah shoot. I should have read the comments. Was exactly the first horse name that came to mind. 👍

[@flibbernodgets7018]

He even hummed the Lone Ranger theme song at one point.

[@androski5247]

As a Malth Main (lvl 52 with 62% winrate), I've found that he works best in 1v1 situations. Always go to the offlane right at the start of the game and pretty much go wherever the enemy team isn't, unless there's an objective, and ignore this rule almost entirely if their team has 3 tanks/bruisers. If you want to conserve mana, just refrain from using your E and W as much as you can, only use W if you absolutely need to chase your target or dodge a certain spell, and your E when a target is too far away to close the distance normally/on your mount, unless you need to be somewhere quickly, your autos can mark the wave just fine. Take camps as often as possible, Malthael's camp clear is extremely good at all stages of the game, and if you want to take a Bruiser after two or three waves he can definitely do that if you're good at kiting. Dodge and weave in team fights, and try to get good at preemptively putting last rites on a target you know will receive enough damage for it to be a killing blow. I always take On a Pale Horse, Die Alone, Massacre, Last Rites, Inevitable End, Soul Collector, and No One can stop Death. 7 and 13 you can take pretty much any other talent if it suits the situation, but those I listed are the best talents Imo.

[@Shoddragon]

yep pretty much. He's really only chosen in higher level play to be a solo laner since he can build specifically for 1v1 scenarios. It's just a bit of a shame that there isn't really any other scenario to pick Malthael nowadays, I do miss when he was an epic tank killer with super high single target % damage.

[@androski5247]

@@Shoddragon in a way I miss those days too, but imo he was too specialized at that time. Way too good against tanks and way too weak against most others. Now I don't think of him as a tank buster, but more as someone who kills everyone at the same rate. Since his rework, unless you're fighting Raynor or Fenix, you have an equal if not better chance to win a duel. However I must admit he is really weak in team fights, always has been since TS was kicked out of viability.

[@LosseB]

I'm having some medical issues and honestly, pally vids are keeping my spirits up. Win or lose, it's a fun watch!

[@VegasVenomX]

Love me some Pally on Heroes. It's great to see you still going even after my two year break. I picked the game back up and am loving all of the content I have missed. P.S. - Hope your Grandma is feeling better!

[@erikstrasburg6411]

Here is a hero I thought I would hate but turned out I love. Granted he only has Q build and one ult but still fun to play.

[@clayspillars]

Pally, 6:54 the famous horse is the Pale horse. Revelation 6, the pale horse carried death and hell followed.

[@drhapi5308]

john clay well played good sir

[@BayBerry1337]

So happy I could catch both your Monday Maltheal stream games and this video, Pally! Imma be honest, I don’t play hots anymore since I moved countries, but I still love you commentary & gameplay!

[@zack2307]

Build to try out? Active at 1, 4 Q if you prefer 1v1 Black Harvest otherwise, 7 Q slows, 10 Depends if you're going to AoE or not (Maps like volskya for instance) 13 and 16 all are viable depending on what you feel needs addressed (just be aware the 13 spell armor has a small wind up time?) 20 you can usually just upgrade ult no problem unless final curtain brings more value (again Volskya and Sky temple come to mind)

[@introvertsunited5526]

You might have been thinking of Pharaoh a triple crown winner I think not Fido and it's "Hi Ho Silver away."

[@mrbfox1775]

Famous cowboy horse- Trigger

[@SangoProductions213]

Damn. I am so impressed by how well you held together your analytical, self-critical mind there, as you focused on self-improvement. I used to be really good at that. So good that I got to rank 1, and actually wrote a university paper on how to maintain a cool head under stress and build trust from a random group of people. Man. This video really makes me want to retreat back to the old days where actually playing these games "competitively" was something I had time to do.

[@alextrollip7707]

Could I read that paper?

[@SangoProductions213]

@@alextrollip7707 if I had my computer that got destroyed by a tornado.

[@drhapi5308]

You couldn’t remember to say Hi Ho Silver? Famous cowboy horse? The Lone Ranger rides again?

[@graemekane4710]

You could have finished ulty quest at 20 with the upgrade which cuts the number you need in half. Wouldn't have matter here but still fun to note!

[@dukelornek]

you guys seemed so dominant at the beginning. I havn't played Mal for a long time but when I did I could never make the dot builds work

[@BansheeHallow]

Bullseye from Toy Story is a famous horse

[@scoople6]

Shadowfax, famous wizard horse.

[@brann925]

Try to avoid killing off the enemy’s minions when it’s not necessary, you can use them to get a bunch of sustain if an enemy attacks

[@yargolocus4853]

yeah, you fight with the same mentalíty as a spinning sonya

[@Starmite22]

So the deathwing dream is not a dream anymore😍😍

[@supermage14408]

Love your vids pally! Tbh Malth is really hard if the enemy doesn’t have a “tanky” comp but you’ll be able to pull through barely when you get better. Keep up the good work!!

[@wobina]

I'm sure a thousand people said this already, but since you were solo laning, Die Alone at lvl 4 is a better choice. You can use it to focus down a certain target in team fights too. I agree massacre is next to pointless now.

[@ninjafish6185]

I know the feeling about Malthael pally. I've seen people absolutely DESTROY people as Maltael, but whenever i play him it feels like a struggle just to survive.

[@onkelpappkov2666]

Malthael: "I am Death." Pally: "I am dead." Subtle difference.

[@Shoddragon]

It's because he was originally designed as what basically amounted to "Melee Tychus" except his trait works on EVERYTHING except structures. The devs repeatedly nerfed Malthael until he was nerfed so hard, they decided to just rework him. Now he's more of a solo laner who can outlast a lot of people 1v1 and win lanes if left undisturbed. His base trait damage and ability to increase trait damage were both still nerfed tremendously from his original launch so trying to use Malthael for straight up brawling in constant teamfights requires his team to play exceptionally well since all he can do otherwise is moderate damage to high HP/high armor heroes and execute people his team gets to low hp.

[@manzell]

I like the Trait build myself, but you need to keep it on an enemy hero and it really starts tolling pretty hard.

[@-IsaacMarr-]

Hope your gramaw is ok. Besides Silver, Roy Rogers had Trigger.

[@KenZ0e]

Congratulations Pally, Deathwing has entered the Nexus!

[@potatomodem1079]

Deathwing trailer pally

[@afk4dyz]

You want to pick the talent "die alone" at 4 basically all the time.

[@xxyorobxx199]

Famous cowboy horse? What about Silver? "Hi Ho Silver, Away!" lol

[@charlieembassy8389]

This video makes me happy, good luck to your grandma!!

[@shahared1]

Some of the things I do when playing Malthael: I only take On a Pale Horse on large maps where I know I will be in solo lane. In small maps where rotations are easier or against teams with lots of slows I prefer Fear the Reaper. Since Malthael excels at solo lane and macro play I feel like Die Alone beats out Black Harvest in most situations, unless your team desperately needs more sustain dps in team fights. Cold hand is really good for slowing the enemy team, especially if your team is mostly sustain damage. If you have more of a blow up comp Touch of Death is really good at reducing the healing of a singled out enemy. I always take Last Rights. Tormented Souls just isn't as powerful as it used to be now that it provides no armor. I could see it being useful if you are really struggling with staying alive since it resets wraith strike twice, once at the beginning and once at the end, and this synergizes with how you should play. I still don't think it's worth it, but your mileage may vary. Soul Siphon is great if you are still in a lot of 1v1's by the time the talent becomes available, or if you can bully the enemy comp without getting stunned. But the chances are that Inevitable End is going to be more useful by that point in the game. It goes without saying that surviving at close range is made a heck of a lot easier if you have a way to become unstoppable. The other two talents are traps, since you should never be overstaying your welcome in a team fight. I'll touch on that later. Soul Collector is really useful in that it synergizes well with the hit and run play style you need to stay alive. I never take Mortality, but it might be useful if the only target you feel you can safely attack is the front line tank. Momento Mori is only really useful if you took Black Harvest. Level 20 is ALWAYS No One Can Stop Death. At this point in the game a single death can be the difference between a win or a loss. Being able to negate the impact of a late game death is super valuable, and not to be underestimated. During laning phase Malthael has excellent solo lane and macro play potential. You win most engages as long as you engage within the enemy minions. Try to keep the lanes static for this reason. Push the enemy laner out and force him to lose xp. After the 1 min. mark, Once you clear a wave, you have more than enough time to go take a camp and return in time for xp from the next wave. Malthael's siege is weak, so focus on clearing minions over attacking structures. Use your speed to double soak when you can. When team fighting my goal is to walk in mounted, apply marks, then immediately walk away. Keep them within Soul Rip range, and count off how many Q's you have used to time your marks duration easily. Two Q's and then Wraith Strike back into them before your mark runs out, AA to reapply mark, then walk away again. Constantly move and reposition around the enemy team to make it hard to follow you. Often the front line will lose you in the chaos while you smack around the back line. Just remember In and Out. Never stay around long, and be prepared to use Inevitable End or Fear the Reaper to mitigate stuns and slows respectively. Malthael has amazing sustain using this tactic. Don't use death shroud to engage, use your mount. Death shroud cost so much mana I rarely ever use it unless I need a quick escape or to catch up to a running enemy. Combine all that together and I think it's a pretty comprehensive way to pick talents and play to Malthael's solo lane and macro play strengths while also being fairly effective in a team fight. Matchups against teams with lots of CC or slows are still pretty tough, especially when they have lots of range dps. You have to play really carefully if they have a blow up comp. But if you can track their CC use and engage carefully you can still dish out a lot of dps while still staying relatively safe.

[@mindurownbusiness463]

Lol "Elite Tarun Cactus"

[@CGDW2]

I like playing Malthael, it's just that it feels like whenever I play him I end up in games with no tanks.

[@Insipidu5]

Yeah he's definitely a hero for draft games, not qm. You are right that when he's in team fights he needs a tank to help avoid getting focused down. Not only that, but Malth works best as a dedicated solo laner and you want to be picking him in favorable matchups. For instance he'll dominate 1v1 against a Yrel or Xul but get his ass kicked by Fenix or Falstad.

[@alfonsomural4792]

Famous cowboy horse. Old blanchy, duh.

[@geckonerd3734]

Maelthal is definitely one of my favorite bruiser heroes. I'm glad to see that you are playing as him.

[@deluxeloy]

Played my first game of hots in weeks yesterday. Kinda spooky that I used this exact malthael build. I feel like a good malthael has two skills; picking his battles, and chasing properly. Everyone needs to do that, but it's more important for him. Also, Jolly Jumper is a famous horse, from the Lucky Luke comics. Not sure if he's popular in the US, but that's what I name all my horses in minecraft.

[@nicholasleask1159]

13:30 Don’t do it again. Don’t do it again. Don’t do it again. I DID IT AGAIN.

[@MattFoote]

Tornado was Zorro's horse and Silver was the Lone Ranger's horse.

[@nvalidwerdz1078]

'Hi yo Silver! Away!' is the lone Ranger reference. Shadowmere from Elder Scrolls is pretty low hanging fruit. And you could always be showing people 'The meaning of haste!' on Shadowfax.

[@jcurse6108]

I'm only 2 minutes in, but that Whitemane must've been so mad when she died

[@tubix00]

Checked both the 2min marks in the video and in game time, neither had a Whitemane death? O.o

[@Jmat-tc8zs]

It was at 1:30

[@yellowisksheppard8889]

Copenhagen was a famous horse. Sea biscuit. Apache rain.

[@DrBonely]

Scholar!

[@ferociousbiscuit]

I needed this video. I'm having the exact same problem. I suck at Malthael but watching others makes me think I'm just doing something wrong.

[@csabaalmasi5297]

NotParadox has a wonderful video on Malthael and how to play him, check it out!

[@SireAymeri]

Silver and Jolly Jumper

[@homidahroun8486]

Famous horse? Sleipnir. Loki's offspring. Gave birth while transformed into a mare as punishment.

[@mormel9020]

Deathwing...

[@henrywallace1732]

Pally wrong build, man! I play lots of maltheal, so I'll give you the one I like to use Lvl 1: Fear the Reaper (or pale horse on large maps) Lvl 4: Die Alone (Always) Lvl 7: Cold Hand (Unless you can use it to cancel big heal abilities like Ancestral) Lvl 10: Last Rights (Or sometimes Tormented souls if you have nano boost Ana) Lvl 13: Inevitable End if they have tons of CC, Shroud if they have high burst mages, or sometimes Soul Siphon if you aren't threatened by either. Lvl 16: Soul Collector (Always) Lvl 20: No One Can Stop Death (Always) There are a few times you can adjust a talent or two, but full Q build with Inevitable End at 13 and Last Rights is 99% of the time the way to go.

[@kevinglass1186]

I love playing Malthael, but haven't played him in a while. Decided to hop into a quickmatch with him after watching your video to see if I remember what I am doing :D. Ended up against a Cho-Gall, it was great.

[@falzad]

hay Pally your wish for Deathwing in hots has come true.

[@treefire7317]

Malthael will win almost any 1v1 if you fight in the enemy minion wave

[@ugurcanuzer9603]

DEATHWING !!! I watch your vids since alpha and now finally, Deathwing !!!

[@manzell]

Against displacement heroes (Artanis, Garrosh, Diablo) I suggest the other talent which makes you un-bodyblockable.

[@zack2307]

Fear the reaper?

[@joebiermann5728]

this is a really fun concept!! love it

[@bpaytas7555]

👍🏻

[@frankwarder2817]

"I'm just gonna run my dead ass up to top lane." that made me smile something wide haha :) oh and I hope your grandma is going to be okay, I know your family is close to you. Like this type of video, learning new heroes is cool! Also good luck on Maltheal since he is not the easiest hero to make work in Quick Match (I can tell you that from my experience trying, most of the time your team is all ranged people who are really really scared to help you). But hopefully my comments don't deter you from learning Maltheal as best you can! Btw Maltheal Meta build is Level 1: Pale Horse (solo lane/double soak) or Fear The Reaper (you plan on slaying) Level 4: always Die Alone (always) Level 7: Cold Hand (sometimes massacre in organized setting nano-boost + D-Shield on Maltheal) Level 10: Last Rites (sometimes the other one in organized setting) Level 13: usually Inevitable End (in QM sometimes the enemy has no CC so pick Ethereal Existence/Shroud of Wisdom based on enemy comp) Level 16: Q Range and CD (can't remember the name I am only human) Level 20: usually No One Can Stop Death (sounds dumb but it isn't. Remember Resurgence of the Storm? However Final Curtain is also very good imo and Last Rite upgrade is okay as well) There was your mini guide I wrote in like 3 mins boom I'm like a wizard! Not that I'd have any of this knowledge if you didn't inspire me to be a HotS historian like you :) Also love you, brother 😁

[@azriphale9967]

Silver. Hi ho Silver, AWAY! lol

[@ashe274]

Ooh, I look forward to the end result, this is almost my usual Malthael build (not that I'm a regular or anything), I wonder if the generally optimal way to play is any different. BTW, I would have said Bulls-Eye for a famous horse.

[@BoxelGames]

just appreciating the game

[@foxehoscar]

Also the Secretariat. First horse to win the triple crown.

[@uberspider1362]

Tips: try massacre out, you can E a minion wave, and if your enemy laner is really cautious, they won’t expect to get marked. Then you can be really Aggro and kill literally anyone in a 1v1. Fear the reaper helps if you need an out, like if Artanis swaps you

[@Meikeeel]

DUDE! DEATHWING'S COMING OUT!!!! Had to think of you :D Cheers from Germany!

[@oathbound_a8961]

You leave with the other Level 1 talent, the 15% move speed talent. Although Pale horse is very good

[@yddraiggoch_48]

You said you feel massacre is redundant but I feel it is extremely powerful for applying mark around you. It basically does exactly the same thing as tormented souls. Plus soul collector increases damage and sustain and since you went the slow, cc.

[@Kafilterfish]

The talent you dismissed that makes your W AoE is crazy powerful in teamfights. If they are bunched up, their hp just melts away

[@alextrollip7707]

Ywah the slow was good but considering both artanis and diablo had dashes the aoe might have been better. Quick jump in then jump out. All the damage once the trait quest was done

[@JGeMcL]

Malthael is a lot like Kerrigan, total bad-ass when played well and has amazing lane and camp clear. Malthael can safely meltdown objective bosses too, especially with moments mori.

[@jimshotfirst4887]

Hey guess who just made it into HOTS

[@Cormalex]

Nice job pally. My only tip is to figth 1 vs 1 surrounded by enemy minions for Nice sustain heals

[@corvus418]

I suggest NotParadox's recent Mal vid. It'll give you everything you need to know!

[@Luis519RS]

Pally!!! They announced Deathwing!!!

[@Германиядлявсех]

They finally got Deathwing!!!!

[@korkrest2669]

SILVER THE HORSE IS NAMED SILVER! HEY HO SILVER

[@seanmccaffrey93]

Pally! it's deathwing in the Nexus!!!!!

[@paulpoldma20]

PALLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY DEATHWING HYPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@nightish_one6007]

Love that you're trying out Malthael

[@UnconciouslyAwake]

Ride like the wind bullseye!

[@Axl18289]

Deathwing is announced!

[@connorm4817]

DEATHWING CONFIRMED YESSSSSS

[@felipemiranda2788]

16:18 - RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSCARED hahahahahahah goddamn it

[@PavelValkoun92]

Horse - Pebbles from Kingdom Come Deliverance ! :D

[@stefanofioravanti4158]

what do you think about the Deathwing rumors??? You can make a video about that!

[@TheRastasHerb]

pally!!!! -deathwing is coming!

[@Mr0901]

What about Bullseye??? the toy story one

[@angussharington2374]

Jolly Jumper or maybe because of using a cloud...Kintoun

[@BrokenHammerLLC]

I love Malth, he's amazing

[@joshuarietta6771]

DEATHWING COMETH

[@ianrey7899]

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't it better to just try to kill a fort early on as the current patch now allows for the early spawning of catapults which, if left unchecked, may exert a lot of pressure to the enemy team? Killing off the towers at the bottom lane provide less material benefit than killing a fort, less XP gains, less map pressure at the cost of easier future mercenary camp push benefits at the bottom lane.

[@ikkiville]

You are correct Pally is a little set in his ways, though what he states about the Mercs in bottom does have merit still

[@CalciumChief]

6:54 You got Jolly Jumper from Lucky Luke.

[@Boedullus1]

I'm sorry, but "Yo ho, Silver"? Come one! XD

[@drhapi5308]

JP Schroeder Hi Ho Silver

[@thegreatestpepe]

They referenced you on the Deathwing Reveal stream, pally!

[@saltmine]

Almost my build but I pick the increased range on w on lvl 1 than its about the same as your q better escape potential or sticking on faster enemy's

[@blairdom]

Roach is a good horse name

[@evo683]

LETS GO DEATHWING!!!!!

[@trassage]

DEATHWING ANNOUNCED!!!

[@thovinh5386]

Malthael, super tanky when there're only 2 other heroes opposing him, squishy as a valla when stay at the middle of 5 other heroes. And usually, I don't aa much as Mathael, I aa once every 2-3 secs and mostly reposition myself in teamfight

[@ddraig2245]

well Malthael is death and the name for Death's horse is Binky in the Discworld novels so why not call any mount he uses in heroes Binky.

[@plankgje4641]

Roy Rogers horse was Trigger

[@Psamtik147]

What about the Horse from Marshall Bravestarr : Thirty-Thirty XD

[@xizar0rg]

Can we talk about how much Pally's gold pile has dwindled from the old days?

[@Insipidu5]

Now with the mastery circles you can buy as of the last patch there's actually something to spend gold on if there's no heroes you want.

[@creldest]

DEATHWIIIIING!

[@dikatok]

Should get more mercs as malthael, he can solo some camps early on

[@dikatok]

And I feel more W range on lv 1 talent is just so good

[@BeepBopBoop303]

Shadowfax is gandalf's horse I think

[@Dorkster81]

Where pally with the deathwing hype!