Leatherman ARC VS Leatherman Wave +

[@llama307]

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[@drummerrene]

missing a serrated blade is a big deal to me, thanks for the review

[@andrewplaysoutside]

If you find a p4 one you can switch it in!

[@caffiend.]

Agree

[@DaddyBalerion]

I've heard the magnacut blade can cut through wood + metal like butter

[@h0gheadS]

The only time I use a serrated blade is to slice bread.

[@winstonholmes5566]

Serrated for heavy rope and those tough plastic straps on lumber and some shipping crates/parts. It’s a must. And it slices cardboard fast if you just chopping it up.

[@Хомяк99ЛВЛ]

Doesn't look like it makes sense to replace wave+ with ARC. Especially considering price.

[@ArrowVelocity]

Magnacut tho

[@mickeypopa]

​@@ArrowVelocity Nobody who carries a pocket knife uses Leatherman knife tho.

[@CaptnHampton22]

I agree but I still did buy one 😅

[@kylewinter1137]

Oh it makes sense. The outside access to all the tools is worth it. The arc has what the p4 lacks. I think leatherman nailed it

[@Хомяк99ЛВЛ]

@@kylewinter1137 if there are specific needs then for sure I can't agree more with you

[@johanneswehrmann]

Would feel sorry to use the expensive ARC, so I’ll stick with the workhorse Wave+ rather. Thus said - Any Leatherman still rocks! 🙌🏼

[@colebennett1828]

I hate to say it, but I think I prefer the tools on the inside. Little less accessible, but probably a lot less likely to pick up dirt and lint in my pockets. Thanks for the comparison!

[@dodsonhaycattle]

Theo, thanks for the comparison. I hope you're enjoying the ARC as much as I am

[@llama307]

its slowing becoming my edc

[@TopTiergears]

Who in the world uses scissors to cut wire when you have wire cutters

[@Geared84]

I can open my Wave, Surge, Crunch and Charge one handed opening easy. Magnets attrack metal shards in any of the trades. Thanks for the review.

[@mickeypopa]

The only one missing there is a Grunge. 😂

[@wigglywrigglydoo]

Great point there. I would hate to have to constantly clean metal filing off the tool.

[@andrewplaysoutside]

Yeah, I don't understand the one handed advertising o the Free series. My Surge opens with incredible ease and I can close it one-handed too. Slightly less floppy I guess but still super easy.

[@xXlURMOMlXx]

So you can open it, take out the tool you want and close it with one hand without fuss? Doubtful

[@llama307]

@xXlURMOMlXx yes, but it does take practice

[@drummerrene]

Whatever happened to leather sheaths?

[@AlaskaMatt]

They are an extra cost now

[@joshuagenovese36]

Good review, . I prefer the surge ❤

[@freddy2141]

NOTHING WRONG WITH MY SUPER TOOL 300🥇 💪🏼🇺🇸 IS A BEAST FOR HARD WORK 💪🏼🇺🇸

[@Star_Sn1per]

The fact that they didn't include the adjustable pivot on pliers is beyond me.. 🤦‍♂

[@dmam412]

Yeah… not really sure why they wouldn’t just include it.

[@MotoXFreak382]

To make room for the adjustment mechanism they have to mill out more material, thus making the pivot weaker.

[@patrickbledsoe2176]

yea people would get it to loose and lose parts I'm sure

[@gregorygolden1296]

I use the serrated blade more than the knife blade (cutting hoses etc.) for the money, the Wave+ is a great everyday work tool. $220.00 is a lot for a working man.

[@andrewplaysoutside]

Arc knife blade can absolutely flip closed. 👍 And for the love of God, use the wire cutters for cutting wires lol

[@sergio.i]

looks like the wave advertisement... omg its just better

[@edevard8445]

Nice comparison. Would you happen to have a pair of calipers? I'm curious in thickness differences between these 2 multitools in the knife, pry bar and the small bit driver.

[@llama307]

let me see if I can find 1

[@LachskoenigIV]

​@@llama307didcha find one?

[@waholoopesorry74]

There are plenty of lightly used Waves on eBay for $50-75. I can’t justify paying 3-4 times more for a tool that doesn’t have that many new features

[@stevesager4032]

I prefer the both

[@mickeypopa]

I think Wave is still better for those of us who carry a pocket knife too because we don't use Leatherman knife anyway. Considering the price of the Arc, honestly I'd rather keep my Wave and simply buy another folder knife in MagnaCut. And one-hand ergonomics is really just a gimmick for us regular folks. The only people I can possibly see having genuine use of it is people with disabilities, specifically those who lost use of one of their hands or who lost one hand entirely.

[@FreedomFox1]

One handed use is handy in lots of situations… say you’re holding something in place with one hand and need a little plier assist with the other… or you want to unclog the line trimmer without setting it down… or you’re up a ladder. It comes up a lot, especially when you’re trying to move things along quickly.

[@mickeypopa]

@@FreedomFox1 Fair point but I still don't find it crucial for such use. It's better to simply be more logistical in your approach whatever you're doing. Example, if something needs twisting then prepare the pliers and then proceed with the work and so on. Also if you're on a ladder you can still use both hands unless you're hanging off of it horizontally like Stalone in the beginning of Cliffhanger. 😂

[@michaelkaliski7651]

The Wave has the advantage of plain edge and serrated blades but the Arc Magnacut blade is far higher quality steel. Single handed opening is a mixed blessing, the Arc will bite like a Jack Russell puppy if you hold it the wrong way. The biggest elephant in the room is that the Arc is made in the USA from USA sourced bits while the other models are mostly made from Chinese parts assembled in the USA. So that explains the hugely inflated price. If you just want the tools, go for the Wave. If you want easy access and smooth tool deployment then the Arc is better. The Magnacut blade should last several times as long between sharpening sessions compared to the standard steel blades, so better for frequent use. Of course the Victorinox Spirit beats both models for comfort and price! I have them all, so I can draw that conclusion with confidence.

[@phil4203]

I have a Wave and i like it but, it will pinch your hand if the pliers slip.

[@clydedoris5002]

After much looking other multitools companies dint have what I look for or have bad quality leathermen seems to be the best all rounder arc is not worth the price maybe of they included more in it

[@Geared84]

I use my wave scissor for noise hairs lol. Then I use my surge for other tasks and I have my Charge Tti Plus for vacations. I own 4 other leathermans. Crunch Cheers

[@damiencampbell1090]

Which handles feel better on the plier squeeze out of the two?

[@eduardsiger1860]

I’ve heard the arcs handles feel slippery not sure though

[@shidoin5398]

I have the wave plus. And the Mut with the bit kit. I mostly use the mut

[@khoasome]

Whats a mut. I have a wave plus

[@shidoin5398]

@@khoasome leatherman mut

[@kylewinter1137]

I was a wave guy, then the p4 came out a blew it out of the water as far as functionality and durability. the p4 lacks the removable screw driver bits and the micro screwdriver and the full size file. This looks like the best of both worlds. Anyone who actually puts these to the test knows they’re worth every penny.

[@need100k]

I have to disagree. The P4 has a short file (too short) and the screwdriver is not interchangeable which is a huge thing for me since I carry the ratchet accessory with the set of allen bits which I use quite often.

[@jasonciccarelli4217]

Okay if someone who actually uses it every day the ARC is way better. And what kinda person except a novice uses scissors to cut wire? I also can use the knife as my edc. If you actually use the ARC like a real tool and not just carry it around you will see far superior. You're comparing two different tools. I have carried a wave plus for years and used it at work everyday almost. The ARC IS a way Superior tool for someone uses it like a tool

[@winstonholmes5566]

Do you do any grinding or metal work ? I use a wave plus every day and I think it’s great. I think the Arc would get full of metal shavings and be horrible to deal with.

[@szalaierik]

The proper way to use the iPhone cable.

[@marcdee4427]

Do the magnet’s loose strength over time?

[@llama307]

Not sure, i don't think they will

[@lestagez]

magenta take over 50k years to loose strength

[@usernamesta3334]

@@lestageznot true at all

[@AlbertGauche]

Can you strike a ferro rod with the awl or spine of the saw to start a fire?

[@llama307]

You should be able to

[@SinistralCitizen]

Can you open the main blade with your left hand?

[@llama307]

I think with practice you should be able to but it you would hold the tool facing down almost

[@asherq8646]

One of my biggest gripes holding me back from purchasing. No love for left handers 😭

[@Maxxguy84]

Wave+ 💪

[@jaysgood10]

The Wave is so 90’s.

[@eduardsiger1860]

Yeah no nonsense and gets the job done

[@jaysgood10]

@@ryansimpson3074 that’s why I have a Charge Ti.

[@szalaierik]

[@user-Nobody0123]

Welches ist dein Favorit? Welches würdest du empfehlen? 😊

[@BigTunaTunes]

Dude is almost intentionally not showing the best part of the arc. It can be used completely one handed. He doesn’t want to open the blade one handed? I can swing the pliers into position with one hand let alone the blade. All the other tools come out so easy and you can flip out what you want and lock everything into and out of place with one hand. Also no mention of how amazing to have a leatherman with magnacut blade steel. That makes the price difference in itself.

[@asherq8646]

Is any of that possible left handed? I’m genuinely curious because it looks like I would have trouble opening the blade one handed.

[@patrickmunneke8348]

Nah I have an Arc, not all the tools come out easily one handed

[@K0LLYW00D]

When can i buy one?

[@llama307]

will be available in the next couple of weeks

[@KINGTERIK]

Surge is King

[@noisycricket8924]

The ARC is missing a few things for me but the have time for improvements 👍🏾

[@eduardsiger1860]

Same here, it’s almost there

[@jeffstrains4014]

I prefer the Wave because of size, I have the surge also but its just to bulky IMO to carry. Rebar is my backup

[@devatwell334]

Not worth it! Could almost buy 2 wave + for the price of the arc...there's just no significant benefit on the arc. Maybe stronger plier head but then again wave+ has my favorite serrated blade.......

[@spynet000]

I have 2 wave+ because I had to send mine in for a broken plier tip and could not be without one. I wanted a reason to buy the ARC but I'm not seeing it.

[@leosvaldomedina5468]

I love Leatherman. But the arc is a big flop. Not worth the $240 price tag. For the everyday blue collar worker It does not make sense. The arc is for desk jockeys who want to have an expensive tool and a nicer blade. If you are in the field depending what you do , the surge and wave + are and will continue to be the best option. The free series is a gimmick. I also saw someone here say that the magnets attract metal shards 🤯 I haven’t even thought about that. Guys save your money. Leatherman has to go back to the drawing board with this one.

[@electroplaque]

I've seen guys say they work in metal and it's no problem. One guy said the metal collects on the outside anyway so you can just wipe it away easily.

[@аааеее-щ1э]

Волна рулит😂

[@mandahlaalachii8677]

Como siempre las tijeras son una porquería 😠

[@seren1ty755]

Uses scissors to cut wires instead of using the dedicated wire cutters on both tools…

[@llama307]

Cos why not

[@seefees]

Maybe because scissors are going to be destroyed ?@@llama307

[@edevard8445]

only because it's a test tho

[@ronaldprovencher7570]

There comes a time when thing get ridicule's .. and not worth buy .. way over priced ....

[@wojtaswrr]

Nikt myślący nie tnie małymi nożyczkami kabli! Test dla głupków! Od cięcia kabli są ostrza i cęgi.

[@gregorygolden1296]

Exactly.

[@hetrogamr84]

It is ARC not Arc. And DVD is Dvd. Korreck this Mr. Harris.

[@llama307]

Correct not korreck @hetrogamr84 :)

[@johanneswehrmann]

Instant karma. 👊🏻

[@lestagez]

jesus bro calm the hell down,

[@TwistedFatwood]

the ark is shit over priced you can keep it