Lee Haney vs Phil Heath

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@jeffreylocke8808
@jeffreylocke8808 Жыл бұрын
Lee Haney mass with class and 1991 was his pinnacle best.
@willyhwang1059
@willyhwang1059 Жыл бұрын
haney is the king of consistency not a bad olympia win
@Olanray1981
@Olanray1981 Жыл бұрын
Love Phil's bubbly roundness but Lee's streamlined flowing completeness just does it for me! But I could see 👀 the argument for Heath
@Asiansxsymbol
@Asiansxsymbol Жыл бұрын
Lee was before my time and I didn't know he was so amazing, especially for the '80s. 😲
@alhassanait1749
@alhassanait1749 Жыл бұрын
You should see his posing routine with epic music ! nothing to do with these days Rap routine ...
@paulcox2447
@paulcox2447 Жыл бұрын
His frame was unmatched even by today's standards. That makes him look extra impressive even using much less drugs. Dude was 6ft and wide
@brycebowman5116
@brycebowman5116 Жыл бұрын
Lee is such a legend!
@Pulsonar
@Pulsonar Жыл бұрын
Haney looked like a monster back in the day, but compared to todays chunky and blocky looking champions he looks classical and sculpted in an epic way like a giant version of Frank Zane. Haney looks so much more commanding and more impressive than Heath in my book.
@billgoldberg9347
@billgoldberg9347 Жыл бұрын
Haneys lower part of his lats are extremely thick and large to the point his Christmas tree is overshadowed, thats insane
@cncaliguy09
@cncaliguy09 Жыл бұрын
Lee looks like a Roman or Greek Statue. Phil looks like the small superhero that hulks up.
@yellowgut
@yellowgut Жыл бұрын
It’s strange how Haney made everyone else on stage kinda disappear. Never understood it back in the nineties, but I see it now.
@paulcox2447
@paulcox2447 Жыл бұрын
Lee Haney structure is fucking magnificent. Tall wide bodies with good overall muscle bellies. Even with the ridiculous amount of pharmaceutical advantage Phil has a hard time because he's just smaller man
@Shawn-1971
@Shawn-1971 Жыл бұрын
I'm probably in the minority but I've never been a big Heath fan. His shoulders and arms overpower his front shots and he is just too narrow. Great back and condition but Lee Haney just flows a lot better. Insane v taper
@Gnybr
@Gnybr Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Phil's structure is not ideal for bodybuilding. He managed to be so successful due to his muscularity and conditioning but structure wise he stands no change against either Haney, Dorian, Ronnie, Jay or even Ramy.
@mikthe2004
@mikthe2004 Жыл бұрын
No, I totally agree with you. 3:07, Lee was always criticised for his arms but they look great in most poses. 4:05 his front lat spread is amazing!! Lee's structure, and aesthetics make him a worthy candidate for the GOAT title? He's right up there with Arnold and Ronnie!!
@joubert3369
@joubert3369 Жыл бұрын
You are not alone. I know is genetics, but Heath is too narrow for my taste. He looks weird in some poses. On the other side Haney's structure is almost perfect.
@Asiansxsymbol
@Asiansxsymbol Жыл бұрын
His delts and arms were awesome! I don't like his genetically flawed abs.
@joemayok
@joemayok Жыл бұрын
@@Gnybr🤨 did u just say his structure isn't ideal for bodybuilding??? U better think twice before typing
@colonalklink14
@colonalklink14 Жыл бұрын
Lee Haney looks much better than Phil the bubble gut Heath. Better structure and a balanced physique.
@Grigs23335
@Grigs23335 Жыл бұрын
Greg douchett vs frank Zane
@WannaBeLevrone
@WannaBeLevrone Жыл бұрын
Lmao why? Is this Greg?
@stelisc9326
@stelisc9326 Жыл бұрын
🤣
@xSplifz
@xSplifz Жыл бұрын
@@stelisc9326 what’s so funny Greg had a phenomenal physique in his day
@stelisc9326
@stelisc9326 Жыл бұрын
@@xSplifz I must have laughed out loud when I read the comment but you’re right, Greg had a great physique and that was disrespectful
@jeffreylocke8808
@jeffreylocke8808 Жыл бұрын
Phil Heath never looked good as an overdeveloped normal structure man. The wide shoulders and top to bottom muscularity of Lee Haney was just incredible.
@miker5233
@miker5233 Жыл бұрын
He was 250 Mr Olympia leani with a 31 inch waist at 5:11 even today if you put on size he would be very competitive
@Torontokid
@Torontokid Жыл бұрын
This wasa great one. Thanks man.
@georgenicolacopoulos1042
@georgenicolacopoulos1042 Жыл бұрын
Lee was blessed and knew that the pro body-building lifestyle was detrimental to one's health and family and just like most of the pros at that time they got off the drugs and competing at a young age
@theotherchannel2028
@theotherchannel2028 Жыл бұрын
here next to haney you can really appreciate how awkward phil's structure really is, not even double amount of muscles can hide it
@rockymatrix8105
@rockymatrix8105 Жыл бұрын
Haney has superior bone/frame structure. Heath has more "3D balloon" muscle bellies. I'll still give the overall package to Haney for the classic symmetry and proportion despite Heath's better conditioning.
@waltermanfred826
@waltermanfred826 Жыл бұрын
The key test is which body would you want for yourself. Without a doubt its Lee Haney! He's been a fave of mind since I began on my fitness journey. That "TotaLEE Awesome" poster with Haney in jeans always gets my adrenalin pumping.
@5.0_meatballmarinara
@5.0_meatballmarinara Жыл бұрын
You have to wonder with the training, sups, diet evolution what would Lee look like today? He had a ton of muscle for that time.
@bdegrds
@bdegrds Жыл бұрын
Training back then is still the training that works best today
@paulcox2447
@paulcox2447 Жыл бұрын
​@@bdegrds yup. It's just drugs
@paulcox2447
@paulcox2447 Жыл бұрын
Lee Haney had the same things going for him Ronnie did. As far as gaining muscle with a frame that can handle it. Moreso actually. Haney was tall at 6ft, wide shoulder to shoulder, HUGE ribcage, incredibly tiny waist. (The ribcage for example is why he kills Phil in the ab and thigh. It's also why Haney and Coleman have such big chests) So yeah, he could have held mass even better than Ronnie did since his waist was smaller, his torso was bigger and he was taller. Haney didn't try to be the biggest. So with a different mindset in a different era... Wow. There is a reason him and Ronnie have 16 Mr O.
@DudeSilad
@DudeSilad Жыл бұрын
​@@paulcox2447 Lee didn't really need to be a mass monster in those days as he didn't have any serious challengers. Until Dorian. I'd have liked him to hang around, maybe add some mass, to compete with Dorian. He was still relatively young when he quit.
@konev13thebeast
@konev13thebeast Жыл бұрын
​@@bdegrdsHaney trained smart and stuck to light weights, but a lot of guys back then lifted heavy for sets of less than 12
@mybluguitar6051
@mybluguitar6051 Жыл бұрын
who would win a bodybuilding competition? phil heath who would i rather look like? def lee haney
@alexquinonez7376
@alexquinonez7376 Жыл бұрын
Eyes don't lie. Haney all the way
@alhassanait1749
@alhassanait1749 Жыл бұрын
HANEY is perfectly balanced , its due to different school and approch , Heat's arms are gigantic and that makes his pecs disapear , Heat's "side chest" is more of side ass legs ...
@Mmmm-lx9vb
@Mmmm-lx9vb Жыл бұрын
Thats subjective, in terms of muscular development Phil is more proportionate. Your idea of balanced is just upperbody dominant.
@nickbritten8132
@nickbritten8132 Жыл бұрын
Phil’s most muscular is all arms. His pecs just disappear into nothingness.
@miker5233
@miker5233 Жыл бұрын
I know somebody that saw him in person mr. Olympia 8 time. LEE HANNY he looks a lot bigger than any of these photos
@georgenicolacopoulos1042
@georgenicolacopoulos1042 Жыл бұрын
Lee Haney 8 x Mr Olympia who retired at 29 years old! Different era where big legs were looked down upon. Lee Haney absolutely blows Phil Heath away when you put everything into perspective . Phil was great but definitely not the best genetics overall. If Lee was to take all the drugs available these days he would've even blown Ronnie Coleman away
@BENCHIPED
@BENCHIPED Жыл бұрын
Can you do a comparison of 1999 Olympia Jay Cutler( completely over looked) against 2022 Derek Lunsford.
@philliplabuschagne5508
@philliplabuschagne5508 Жыл бұрын
You did a good job here Marx Muscle💪🥇
@xanderguldie
@xanderguldie Жыл бұрын
Marx, can I suggest you put those old, blurry pictures through Topaz photo IA? You can't compare those old pictures of Lee to the new digital pictures of Phill. I'm pretty sure Lee looked a lot better than that.
@robertdevito5001
@robertdevito5001 Жыл бұрын
Lee had a sort of burley look to him, idk how else to describe it.
@Asiansxsymbol
@Asiansxsymbol Жыл бұрын
You just did. 🤣
@Asiansxsymbol
@Asiansxsymbol Жыл бұрын
Btw, it's burly actually.
@robertdevito5001
@robertdevito5001 Жыл бұрын
@@Asiansxsymbol no I didn’t, I said “how *else* to describe it” I wanted to put it in finer words and describe it a bit more precisely than I did. Also, I knew it! Autocorrect changed it from burly to burley and I sat there for a second wondering which was right and just left it as burley lol
@VinchenzoC
@VinchenzoC Жыл бұрын
Lee Haney is a guy with muscles, Phil Heath is muscles with a guy.
@aliasalbatross700
@aliasalbatross700 Жыл бұрын
Kek🤣
@ALARGADORDECU
@ALARGADORDECU Жыл бұрын
I like that 😂😂😂😂😂
@natepolidoro4565
@natepolidoro4565 Жыл бұрын
The structure is nuts
@illu322
@illu322 Жыл бұрын
it's torso vs extremities
@howy3333
@howy3333 Жыл бұрын
I love how you compared to different eras of heath. Haney didnt need to have legs that big...
@robitaillecopeland1996
@robitaillecopeland1996 Жыл бұрын
2011-13 Phil slightly, and I mean, slightly, beats peak Haney. However, like with Arnold, if Lee came up in today's era he would have been THE guy. He would have brought up his arms, legs and conditioning and been unstoppable against everyone but maybe Ronnie and Arnold.
@xanderguldie
@xanderguldie Жыл бұрын
Not to mention the difference in gear between these two
@johndonson1603
@johndonson1603 Жыл бұрын
You could say that about Oliva , Nubret and Bill Pearl as well .
@ovathere93
@ovathere93 Жыл бұрын
I've always said Haney was tops. But that 2011 Phil was something else.
@voltesmazinger7361
@voltesmazinger7361 Жыл бұрын
Phil has a lightweight back and I don't understand why some people think he had the best back 😂 If you have a small back of course you can add lots of details on it.
@renaissanceinblack
@renaissanceinblack Жыл бұрын
I think pound for pound, Lee Haney wins, considering he had fewer "advancements" to work with.
@jeffrey3498
@jeffrey3498 Жыл бұрын
Haney’s structure destroys Phil’s structure. Put Lee in the modern era, with all that that entails, and it’s lights out for Phil Heath.
@manduheavyvazquez5268
@manduheavyvazquez5268 Жыл бұрын
8 time mr Olympia lee Haney. Not gut like Ronnie the king gut gyno Coleman that now he can’t walk.
@paolocaso6734
@paolocaso6734 Жыл бұрын
Big ramy 2014 New york pro vs Derek Lunsford 2022 Mr O
@Zommio
@Zommio Жыл бұрын
Okay Hadi chopen2022vs shawn clareda 2022 mr O It will be good one
@willyhwang1059
@willyhwang1059 Жыл бұрын
if haney had carried on, and continued to put on mass in a tasteful and classy way, while maintaining his tight and trim midsection and finetuning his x frame, i am not sure dorian would have dominated
@SIKUSESI
@SIKUSESI Жыл бұрын
Prime Heath smokes Haney in every pose except personality. Get real guys
@brianlachira8519
@brianlachira8519 Жыл бұрын
Phil 2008 was great
@ryanyeethegifted
@ryanyeethegifted Жыл бұрын
Actually both of them very similar
@ghanahumber937
@ghanahumber937 Жыл бұрын
Lee all day
@edfabs4889
@edfabs4889 Жыл бұрын
If Lee competed these days with his aesthetics and proportions using todays compounds he would wipe the floor out of anyone in todays line up. These comparisons are unrealistic when you judge todays PEDS to the early days.
@TheBigBeenus
@TheBigBeenus Жыл бұрын
Lee Haney vs Kai Greene
@stevejamieson8468
@stevejamieson8468 Жыл бұрын
Lee all day over Kai's 9 month pregnant physique
@benham3124
@benham3124 Жыл бұрын
What is with the ridiculous difference in height? A 2 inch difference doesn’t look like that…
@nathankelenski9637
@nathankelenski9637 10 ай бұрын
Lee Haney all day
@edge3220
@edge3220 Жыл бұрын
Phil's development in his back is insane! I'd love to know what changed exactly in conditioning between these two eras, especially in the glutes and hams. Haney's pealed everywhere else, how did his butt not get that way, too, or is it all in the flex?
@TheGreatMishas
@TheGreatMishas Жыл бұрын
I have the same question
@gigithebird2151
@gigithebird2151 Жыл бұрын
I can’t stand how unwilling you are to say the new guys are winning. The side chest was not even mildly close. Phil was taking lee to school in the side chest. You tried to say it was close??? Why?????
@willyhwang1059
@willyhwang1059 Жыл бұрын
for me, any haney year beats heath's best
@sherman4970
@sherman4970 Жыл бұрын
Phil wins everything apart from the fullness and shape of chest!
@jf8643
@jf8643 Жыл бұрын
You keep switching to highschool Phil Heath. I was there for Lee Haney, Phil had different muscle.
@maryjoschlechty7590
@maryjoschlechty7590 Жыл бұрын
Lee Haney all the way
@Bigguns761
@Bigguns761 Жыл бұрын
scaling is way off, u made phill too short.. he had 1 inch less then honey I think. u made him like 4-5 inch shorter lol
@joshualee7427
@joshualee7427 Жыл бұрын
Keep on mind Phil was slightly crouching down when hitting his shots, whereas Lee Haney was standing straight up.
@NeonAnimeDreams
@NeonAnimeDreams Жыл бұрын
Is it just me, or is Marx ignoring everything that people requested and just doing his own matches?
@davidkosiba624
@davidkosiba624 4 ай бұрын
Phil clears and very easily tbh
@simondg42
@simondg42 Жыл бұрын
I think Heath will beat everybody on his prime 🤌🏼💪🏼
@dontreadmyname4396
@dontreadmyname4396 Жыл бұрын
how do you keep track of all your videos to not repeat comparisons?
@Thermolizer
@Thermolizer Жыл бұрын
you can search video titles on the channel
@logansmithers5480
@logansmithers5480 Жыл бұрын
Lee Haney vs Chris bumstead ??
@collin355
@collin355 Жыл бұрын
Phil has no width in his chest from the front..his weakness and it was a big one was his narrow clavicle. Gives his chest an odd shsoe and no flow on his torso.
@bilbob7624
@bilbob7624 Жыл бұрын
Haney DEMOLISHES phil
@The_Voice_of_Reason_is_here
@The_Voice_of_Reason_is_here Жыл бұрын
Haney's body structure is designed for bodybuilding and if he had access to the anabolic chicken in today's era he would destroy Heath
@theOUTSIDERcz
@theOUTSIDERcz Жыл бұрын
thinner Phil was just looking as other thin guys and when he got bulky he looked as an other bulky BB..Not like Lee, his siluet of upper body frame is ® and pleasant on eye.. * speaking only in condition of siluet, not muscle separation, vascularity..
@ALARGADORDECU
@ALARGADORDECU Жыл бұрын
Lee Haney with an old country big chest, nowadays guys doesnt have big chest. I Wonder why?
@hoodoos5634
@hoodoos5634 Жыл бұрын
I believe Phil heath is the greatest of all time. Too complete to argue I’m sorry
@mitswO
@mitswO Жыл бұрын
In musculature it is perfect but its structure is not ideal.
@WannaBeLevrone
@WannaBeLevrone Жыл бұрын
I mean phil definitely could have been natty
@Truthcanbeconfusing
@Truthcanbeconfusing Жыл бұрын
I've never liked Lee Haney's physique. Arms are way too small
@michaeldevore1003
@michaeldevore1003 Жыл бұрын
Not even close guys Phil is in a league of his own.
@maurogomez1585
@maurogomez1585 Жыл бұрын
Lee Haney can beat Phil Heath, Jay Cutler, Dexter Jackson, Shawn Rhoden and Hadi Choopan.
@JohnPeter1940
@JohnPeter1940 Жыл бұрын
Day 393 of saying hi to Marx!
@Nagy.Patrik
@Nagy.Patrik Жыл бұрын
Haney could be Mr. O after the Phil era. He would destroy everyone if he would be a todays competitor with todays knowledge and gear.
@ΣερτηςΠαπας
@ΣερτηςΠαπας Жыл бұрын
Haney gets destroyed in the lower half
@Jesse-df9fz
@Jesse-df9fz Жыл бұрын
Really not a competition
@lgnaturopata9184
@lgnaturopata9184 Жыл бұрын
Lee, easy.
@quanmuhammad1146
@quanmuhammad1146 9 ай бұрын
Haney dominates Phil Heath!!
@lateralus2199
@lateralus2199 Жыл бұрын
Lee Haney had a great structure, and incredible V-taper, but loses to Phil on delts, biceps, triceps, forearms, legs, calves, and round muscle fullness. Phil is simply bigger and more ripped
@exormason6323
@exormason6323 Жыл бұрын
Lee Haney never had an issue bubble gut
@babukhan7579
@babukhan7579 Жыл бұрын
Lee all day
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