Legion Must Be Destroyed! Let's Play Terminator Dark Fate Defiance RTS (Realistic Difficulty) #1

[@neofulcrum5013]

Leaving these tips for newer players who might see this video. Do with it as you will: Every unit matters, they level up and get much stronger but not only that, you can also sell vehicles (don't dissamseble) and sell or disbands soldiers to get either the curency, supplies or manpower. Manpower also drains supplies, 100 per reserve soldier per day so its much better to sell units Even more, every unit uses supplies when traveling so some very high cost units will eat up a lot of supply while simple drivers and technicians are basically free Tank crews. You can eventually recruit them but you can also level up technicians to drive tanks or helicopters. Drivers will not be able to drive tanks or helicopters but they get the speed and rate of fire upgrades. Tank crews also get speed and rate of fire. Many units can act as drivers so use them to loot as many cars as possible. The soldier squads able to drive things are your vehicles. Some like The Abrams tank, later, will become a baneblade Bradley IFV, it's got the best of all options, good against everything and you can even mount it's special ATGM so it will end with with an autocannon and atgm very fast. Humvee with a chaingun and/or TOW Light platform with artillery upgrade. For soldiers: atmg squads because of their range, rangers because they’re shred infantry, snipers for their versatility. Infantry squads being good at everything. The technicians can also drive tanks or pilot helicopters but also lay down mines with their skill upgrades. They only cost 300 supplies per day so it's a strategy to sell drivers and only get technicians. Keep in mind, you don't get other Founder units until the endgame so don't disband or sell them. Towing capacity: Most of the light armored vehicles can tow. There are 3 classes of tow vehicles and stuff that can be towed. Specialised military vehicles can't tow Light platforms like the light platform can be towed by vehicles like the van or humvee Trailers like the fuel/ammo/armored trailer can only be towed by the main tractor also known as the american truck from tv shows So it's very important to have units capable of driving and vehicles capable of towing to get a lot of loot wich you can sell for goodwill points then buy supplies. Supplies are used to repair vehicles, give them spare parts, fuel or ammunition. They are crucial like real logistics to keep your force active. So before leaving a mission try leaving with maxed out fuel and ammunition from depots or trailers. depots or trailers. If you are going to sell captured vehicles or soldiers you don't need to resupply them. You do sell them for more if you do it but most time its the same amout of supplies. However, bases have limited supplies to sell. Buying upgrades and switching upgrades. Since upgraded guns are limited, try to swap out the gear betwen your army like geting the recoiless gun from the vans before selling them. Same for soldiers with the mention that a single upgrade like a rifle is better give to bigger squads since it can equip either 2 soldiers or 5 soldiers so obviously the 5 soldiers is better. It's highlighted what vehicle or soldier can use a piece gear so select them and if the slot is greyed out. A greyed out slot means the unit has the basic weapon. The little lines show you the tier and damage capacity, smgs are 1 white bar, while the chaingun is mid tier and 3 lines meaning it is mid-tier best, for anti-infantry purpose For example, plasma recoilless vs normal recoilless and the various guide atgm. Ultimatly check the ammo types to see against what is the gun good against. Usually plasma is better vs legion and normal guns are better vs humans. There is also specialised equipment like the bradley, TOW or the 105mm artilery for the light platform. Soldiers gain experience, level up and gain increased health, accuracy and fire rate. Chosing the skills for the slots is only possible in human bases where you see the icon. The management portion of the game can be improved by geting the survivalist trait for all units but you lose a lot of combat strenght. Drivers: survivalist atgm: AA so you dont forget, survivalist. A vehicle atgm cant attack air heavy The snipers: surv, camo, marathon Vehicle capacity. Most vehicles have troop capacity so you can use them as transports or to replenish ammo. Keep in mind that a squad can't use a transport that doesn't have enough room for all its members. Example: ATGM squad in humvee with minigun is amazing or a Main tractor can have the ranger squad Smoke is your also friend. If there is a fight you can't win or your units are taking too much damage use the smoke. Its usable on vehicles like the striker, Bradley or ranger squad by default. You can also use it to avoid a flanking enemy and reposition. Complete ALL aditional objectives, there is no secondary objective since most quests in the game give a big payout and missing too many of them might result in you struggling with supplies. Also, don't leave the map until you capture all abandoned vehicles since you can sell them for good goodwill points See the difference here, i started with 3 squads and a humvee. Oh and an Extra tip: To capture enemy vehicles you can just shoot at them until you kill the entire crew but sometimes if the vehicle is on fire the crew must exit the vehicle. It can't enter back until the fire dies out and takes a few minutes. You can kill them with your snipers and then capture the vehicle. You can also disable certain gun or ammo types to increase your chances but this gets tedious over time so it's just better to replay some missions for all objectives completion.

[@psychojetenjoyer4678]

Some time has past but I have question, maybe you'll be able to answer it? I can't actually sell vehicles in places I trade. If it comes to selling things I'm able to see an option to only draw my unused weaponry. How to do it or where?

[@tazdpwns]

Getting old school + new school RTS vibes from it, love it, subbed

[@ThreatXtra]

Yes loving it so far look forward to seeing where it goes with the main campaign mode

[@trabuco9]

It's made on a heavily 2008 engine by some oldschool Russian devs, that's why. Why the performance is really bad as well, only one CPU core is being used due to the old engine.

[@regentmad1037]

we've lost the president and the chain of command...so what you're saying is we have a chance o_O

[@orthi09]

This gives me World in Conflict vibes. Great playthrough

[@ThreatXtra]

Thanks loved WIC wish there was a sequel

[@StateOfMind63]

@@ThreatXtra Broken Arrow is shaping up to be a very good spiritual successor to WIC.

[@RCPDcap]

There is a DLC for WIC

[@tjep2670]

I'm so glad you're doing a playthrough of this. I'm currently on the fence about it. It seems like something 16 year old me would love, but my gameplay preference has changed over the years.

[@ThreatXtra]

Ahh i see well I will be going through the whole thing unless it turns into a puzzle game a few hours in

[@Raidenze]

Yeah, getting old sucks.

[@dakaodo]

@tjep2670 I can relate to that feeling. This still looks really fun, but nowadays my attention would wander much sooner than the hours and hours I put into games like this in high school and college. Increasingly, I've drifted up in abstracted levels of operational complexity. Wargame/WARNO is about the smallest scale I'd go for. I like games that incorporate unit morale and at least abstracted logistics planning, up through mid level strategy (less than grand strategy? XD). It's hard to find a game that successfully humanizes medium to large scale combat and logistics.

[@guily6669]

Well when I see a good RTS old style like = bye bye life 😂 It's just sad that it only happen from years to years apart as I don't like the majority of modern RTS.

[@messiahshow]

@@dakaodo Maybe Alien Dark Descent and Last Train Home would be your cup of tea.

[@dakaodo]

Super glad to see you starting this series! I'm really excited to see the publisher Slitherine expanding from their core strength (highly detailed wargames, initially turn-based) into real-time games. The voice acting in this seems really solid. Uniform audio levels, consistent voice direction, pretty good expressive range within the "stoic soldier" segment. And the design choices for realistic mode are cool. This is the direction I wished Company of Heroes would have gone, 15 years ago. But they really went the competitive arcade direction. Terminator: Dark Fate dips a few toes in the direction of Eugen games (Wargame: Red Dragon, WARNO, Steel Division). Those games have fully tracked ammunition, etc. I feel like most players find Eugen games a bit intimidating to get into (plus the Wargame lobbies were always hideously toxic), but Terminator makes many of the same game concepts much more accessible. Like you said, Starcraft clones are all well and good, but it's great to see something different! WARNO is currently in early access development, btw. It's really starting to shape up, I feel. Not sure if 1980s Cold War gone hot is your thing.

[@ThreatXtra]

It is really hard but Realistic mode is very interesting to me something that always takes me right out of RTS games is the hp thing this game it feels like any shot can end anything I love it! I have played the Eugen games will probably get warno at some point

[@dakaodo]

@@ThreatXtra "Hello, everybody! My name is ThreatX, and today we are going to send ze East German T-34 tank spam into harm's way."

[@Dexter-200]

Thank you bro for making a series on this

[@ThreatXtra]

I have been looking forward to this for ages hope you enjoy the playthrough

[@xXFeralArtsXx]

Damn automatons are everywhere bro.

[@ThreatXtra]

Need that hellbomb would sort it out

[@ianmoone7041]

It reminds me a lot of World in conflict. Way more detailed than i was ever expecting. First 2 missions had me concerned about the game but once it lets you have control it gets better. Little bummed its not skynet, but hey its still blowing up terminators so its a win in my book.

[@dragontear1638]

Have only just heard of this game from Splattercatgaming, and it is quite tempting to buy this, looks really fun. Unless I'm mistaken, RTS games have a habit of being about blobbing units up with overwhelming firepower, this one seems more demanding on tactics. "I'll get to the point where I don't know what's happening any more." Sometimes I get to that point upon just waking up.

[@rabidsillywolf6612]

Love the walkthrough. Subbed. Bought this game today, but first I'm watching this 👍

[@almightybogza]

Damn 2024 looks like a great year for gaming already. I legit dont know what hits to play.. theres just too many bangers out there rn. Anyway nice video man im hooked

[@ThMindFdr]

Real world is collapsing and ur worried about too many games lolz

[@KC_604]

I been waiting for this game for so long the gameplay and style of this RTS looks so fun and I can’t wait to play it tomorrow

[@RealProEntertainment]

You've earned my sub, thank you for playing this. The other youtubers haven't been yet

[@deedar4530]

This game feels like XCOM 2; there's a strong emphasis on individual units, and leveling them up. That, and the rag-tag guerilla war feel makes it light a strategic version of XCOM 2, but instead of aliens its robots.

[@Cheesetoffeebunsofdeath]

This is the perfect game for a full Star wars conversion mod

[@ThatOneGuy-mn6dv]

I just realize the lore setting is off. If this is shortly after Judgment day shouldn't both sides here be shooting bullets?

[@apex1757]

Dark Fate really jumbled the lore. There's multiple timelines

[@ornerylurker8296]

“Atlanta 1 month after judgement day.” I literally cannot tell the difference. :V

[@rcticwolf1451]

I wish there was an option that let you choose between them being called Legion or Skynet… someone should really make that a mod

[@kingarchreapagon4403]

Ah this reminds me when i played Terminator salvation on my 360

[@rupertcortes3980]

Not skynet. Legion in this universe not the original one.

[@ThreatXtra]

Yeh seen some comment I never watched the new movies lol so had no idea they removed it

[@C0NSTANTINUS]

Nah they are skynet lol

[@rupertcortes3980]

@@C0NSTANTINUS ha..ok.

[@C0NSTANTINUS]

@@rupertcortes3980 I mean same shit lol

[@redacted9694]

Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, its skynet now

[@mimir4965]

Feels like it uses the Men of War mechanics and tries to hide it as a squad based game

[@ThreatXtra]

Hmm they do have some similar features I wish they would have a cover system for infantry when outside buildings though

[@mimir4965]

@@ThreatXtra Yeah, perhaps it uses the same engine. Consider me subbed!

[@causticchan4617]

@@ThreatXtra It does i think you can make your inf go prone and they get a bonus depending on the terrain?

[@mobileplayers5008]

The new command n conquer should make it like this

[@Callum_Summer0972]

13:46 That was unnecessary! I feel called out! Reeeeeeee! 1!1!1!1

[@RCPDcap]

Oh my god now i want this game

[@benjihero86]

Wow squads have there own name

[@ThreatXtra]

Yeh you can rename them and everything pretty cool

[@benjihero86]

Might I suggest if you have a twitch account to give naming rights for channel points@@ThreatXtra

[@TabulaRasa-b6n]

Good stuff! SAVE US! (No pressure...)

[@Pyriel2]

In the movies - utterly bulletproof. In the game - die from a water pistol.

[@RevanBartus]

Thia feels like more of an RTT than RTS, Dawn of War 2 vibes.

[@marcirahmatias7057]

This game really needs a conquest mode

[@Nadav69b]

Looks like a great game, I'm following it but for me it's a bit complicated, enjoy watching you play it..

[@jaywon555]

Men of war has very similar mechancis. Innovative...No, but took balls and hard work to bring alot of the micro management from RTS's such as Men of War, where as many other developers would of seen this as too time consuming, annoying and follow a more brainless, cookie cutter 'arcade' type of RTS that we often see today.

[@Quite_Gaming_3312]

this is sick i do like rts games and this is interesting

[@kragglewulf4105]

Everyone in America : You will?

[@stacylockhart9684]

Hopefully there will be a LA tech com version under the original terminator storyline.

[@dracula5752]

game looks amazing

[@BimC]

Why didn't Skynet just use gas to wipe out the last surviving humans?

[@dimas3829]

because there is no satelite network anymore and best defence humans have against robots in the first place is being hidden well enough.

[@JasinTheZombie]

One month after the nukes fell and there outside fighting in ground zero😂. Breathe deep

[@TheForsakenFalcon]

ima take a guess and say the dude you think is dead comes back later as a prototype inflitrator (not a spoiler just a guess lol)

[@ThreatXtra]

That would be cool I have no idea myself! I will say when I played the demo that bomb drone actually is supposed to directly blow his squad up but he happened to kill it in this timeline XD

[@TheForsakenFalcon]

@@ThreatXtra really curious to see if there is any mechanic later on with infiltrators, just having them be instant red marked and kill on sight as they spawn into the map will kinda kill the emersion but having a hard time figuring out a fair mechanic where say they can infiltrate a squad & You got a certain time frame to figure it out and deal with it before it starts team killing.

[@baronvonbon9669]

Woahhhhhhhh, new series? Yes please >:)

[@Theredsunrising]

odd choice putting it in the dark fate canon

[@ThreatXtra]

I have not seen any of the newer movies I still though I was fighting skynet until people pointed it out 😂

[@exilestudios9546]

it was originally a movie tie in game but it kept getting pushed back until now. i genuinely though this game had been abandoned until it dropped out of nowhere

[@BlackHawk21ification]

was this made by the same devs that made Warfare in 2008 ? it's the exact same game mechanics, soundtrack oddly familiar too

[@ThreatXtra]

Not heard of that one will have to take a look

[@BlackHawk21ification]

@@ThreatXtra well it's a really old game, but you know the saying old but gold. but i checked and it's not the same studio, so maybe same devs that migrated to slitherine or maybe slitherine just took the mechanics they liked from it and slapped them on top of a terminator dark fate theme game. But yeah lots of mechanics are the exact same so if you enjoyed that game, i'd invite you to try Warfare from GFI RUSSIA, just the setting of the game is the Gulf war and you play USA vs Talibans iirc.

[@ПетрШаповалов-г2п]

It was made by Studio "Cats who play" they was under contract with Slitherin, theyre team is ex workers of GFI and Terminator game is basically improved theyre previous game Syrian warfare(about War in Syria)

[@BlackHawk21ification]

@@ПетрШаповалов-г2п oh wow thanks that explains a lot, i recognized a dev team from a game they made 16 years ago lmao

[@ultralaggin8467]

still kinda dumb that soilders just start listening to a police officer but does give that old movie type of vibe

[@dimas3829]

there are times when people are too afraid to lead and are grateful to anyone take such responsibility form them. Nothing stupid about that.

[@ABH565]

This game is fun

[@alfafiles]

⚠⚠⚠ Am I the only one who noticed how they added an Easter egg with VALID WINDOWS 10 keys in the introductory video?

[@ThreatXtra]

Oh is that what they are! I think I said in the video but if they had steam codes for the game that would of been awesome for people that noticed it first get a free copy :)

[@weehc]

Game alr release?

[@HyperXcube]

realistic? damn this game is diffuclt bro

[@ThreatXtra]

I know its great XD

[@SolCresta3405]

Are we finally going to kill Legion if they don't make a Dark Fate sequel?

[@Neyreyan]

Is it out yet? Did they fix the problems from the demo? What are the multiplayers options? The devs promised something like coh 3

[@ThreatXtra]

Yes. Not seen problems myself but only done a few missions. I think you got some kind of skirmish and coop mode

[@Titanscreaming]

Looks like it should.

[@gamerdudewhodied]

i hope they add sandbox or something.

[@ReivajLive]

Looks great for me, but are there any T-800s?

[@ThreatXtra]

I cant say there is a encyclopaedia of all units in the game but only after you see them in action lol

[@apex1757]

Within the Dark Fate timeline, because Judgement Day is canon Skynet was destroyed. The Rev-6/9(?) series made by Legion are basically the same though. I don't fully understand the Dark Fate timeline lore.

[@ReivajLive]

@@apex1757 yeah, I got the game and it's pretty fun and complex, I understood the timeline eventually. So I would recommend to you.

[@rhysenglish615]

I don't think this guy understands the word "Dynamic."

[@leebob9514]

😊

[@AussieStandsWithRussia]

Isn't the timeline all fucked up? I thought the laser came way later when the terminators evolved to the point where they created time machines and shit

[@mrV69]

You should play broken arrow

[@ThreatXtra]

I will when it comes out :)

[@mikehawkisb1g]

Betas been closed for a few days now m8

[@GuTTs1975]

anyone count how many times the word dynamic is mentioned in this video?

[@ThreatXtra]

I used to work in a corporation buzz words had to be used at all times bad habit XD

[@zombieak47]

Hey yes😂

[@mfinland2767]

You fighting Legion, not Skynet

[@ThreatXtra]

Is that not the same thing? I must admit I never watched the movie lol but watched the original ones

[@mfinland2767]

@@ThreatXtra well, technically they're the same thing by looks and aspects, but they're still different as faction like Disney Star Wars Sequel bullshitery.

[@apex1757]

​@@ThreatXtraso from my understanding in the Dark Fate timeline it sticks with Skynet being destroyed with the Cyberdine building in Judgement Day (Terminator 2). Legion is from the new Dark Fate movie (which unfortunately is terrible) which takes place in the 2020's. Legion is effectively a more cyber warfare based version of Skynet to my knowledge and reading of the wiki

[@linezgames3893]

Innovate??? MoW did this already.... SS did this already... innovated??? ok?

[@ThatOneGuy-mn6dv]

You can see how much they brought from Syrian Warfare in this game.

[@Scorchluck]

That's not really a fair comment. Syrian Warfare and this game are simply the same genre. There are plenty of real-time tactical wargames out there, but it's really a very niche genre due to the high learning curve.

[@ThatOneGuy-mn6dv]

I don't see how it isn't not saying it's a bad thing or anything. I mean look at how it treats the units, and at one point one of old groups that helped made this game did create Syrian Warfare I think before the boot. It would make sense that leftovers from that would carry over.

[@ardiansyahwahyudi7400]

@@Scorchluckbut it is fair though, you can be even be blunt and say this is a reskinned syrian warfare with extra resource management. this and syrian warfare literally developed by the same developer (slitherine is just the publisher or at most continued the work left behind by cats who play). you literally can see the ui layout and game mechanics are basically the same as syrian warfare, they only spiced it up a little and expanded it more on the resource management. i'd even challenge you to name a few game that play like these if it really was due to genre instead of being made in the same pot.

[@lukashansen7419]

Why two channels?

[@ThreatXtra]

first channel is for a job 2nd channel is for fun

[@AshFarlow]

This game is identical to Syrian Warfare, its a Russian game on Steam. Even the squad layout, controls, and dialogue boxes.

[@Randomusername56782]

why call your military remanant the founders and not something cooler and more historic sounding like the 15th continental army or something like that rather then the founders lol.

[@marcboss6]

Dirty little secret most cops would be in the f you ur on your own group

[@dimas3829]

army is not as delusional as democrats are, though.

[@madimadikeluarga5480]

Pubg punk rock

[@adwitiyarahman2829]

Yes.

[@ThreatXtra]

Thanks this is actually my 2nd channel just for fun:)

[@XenophobiaUK]

Can you build bases like command and conquer?

[@ThreatXtra]

Not that I know of

[@XenophobiaUK]

@@ThreatXtra unfortunately like star ship troopers then, my soul needs command and conquer generals back, however just finished downloading this so still going to have a go, been looking forward to it.

[@reecechapman7286]

That's what I wanna know. I'd be really disappointed if it dosnt I'm hoping it be like c&c,

[@reecechapman7286]

If there's no base building and reasouse harvesting then I'd probably won't get it been hoping it be like c&c

[@mranderson9553]

this game is persistent army's, so whatever survives one mission moves onto the next one homeworld style, it's more convoy/nomad style rather than base builder