Legion of Superheroes #0 and Legionnaires #0 - Atop the Fourth Wall

[@Rixec2]

The Legion is never complete without Arm-Fall-Off-Boy. He's always ready to lend a hand.

[@BlueJaguarRanger]

He shows up later, never fear.

[@mattwo7]

@@bZman The Detachable Kid (TDK for short) is a different person entirely, Cory Pitzner, who exists exclusively in the DCEU. Rixec2 is talking about Floyd Belkin whose alter-ego in Post-Zero Hour and Post-Rebirth was retconned to Splitter.

[@mattwo7]

@Will N Seems like they were going for catchier names with the Post-Zero Hour reboot instead of just [item] boy/girl/lad/lass etc so _of course_ it's a better name. Least they recognized that "Cosmic Boy" was cool enough to stay the same.

[@brianlewolfhunt]

"How can the flash's granddaughter be around 1000 years in the future?" Dude, this is the flash. Time travel is just another tuesday to him. Heck, he could appear appear and have a conversation with her if he wanted.

[@joshuaingobo1559]

His wife Iris was revealed to be born in the 30th century in 1970’s Flash Vol 1 203, before they settled down in that era in 1985’s Flash Vol 1 350 for a month in 2985 before the Tornado Twins were born after Iris traveled further back in the 30th century (I assume) before they made their public debut in 1968’s Adventure Comics 373, where they met the Original Legion in 2968.

[@bgvo4373]

Bart Allen was also from this time period, since Iris was from the future and there when Barry was dead in the past.

[@gregcourtney751]

@@joshuaingobo1559 and to add to the confusion, said setlling took place after she was killed. Apparently her parents brought her to the future at the exact microsecond to save her while a vibrating hand entered her brain. And the reason the settling ended was so barry could go die in crisis on infinite earths. Iris later travels back to the 20th century with her grandson Bart and writes a book about barry that Thawne, barry's enemy from the future has. Yeah flashes and time travel shenanigans are synomous.

[@joshuaingobo1559]

In my headcanon, to fix the 30th/31st-century timeline in the main DC universe, I would let Iris West be born in the year 2945, in which her biological parents (the Russels) send her back in time (with John Fox’s help) to the year 1963 so that she can be raised by the Wests (Prof. Ira William West, who is a lot like his pre-Flashpoint version and not like his New 52 version, and his wife). Then, 29 years later in the year 1992, Iris would be transported to the year 2965, in which she and her husband Barry Allen would spend the next three years (between 2965 and 2968) interacting with her parents before she was killed by the Reverse-Flash in the year 1995 and was brought back in the year 2968. After she was resurrected in the year 2968, she would spend the next two years (between 2968 and 2970) helping Barry win his trial (which lasts from 1996 to 1997), in which they would spend the next month (in the year 2970) spending time with each other, before Barry would return to the year 1997 to participate and sacrifice himself in the first Crisis. Nine months later, in the year 2971, Iris would give birth to the Tornado Twins (Don and Dawn Allen). Ten years after that, in the year 2981, the Original Legion of Super-Heroes would make their public debut, after they were inspired by the heroes of the 20th/21st century, starting with Clark Kent’s adventures as the first Superboy and the first Superman in the pre-Crisis Earth-One continuity (or the JSA and JLA and other modern-day heroes in the New Earth/ Prime Earth continuity). Five years after the Original Legion’s formation, in the year 2986, the Tornado Twins would meet the Original Legion. In the year 2992, the Original Legion would participate in the first Crisis along with all other superheroes of the modern day to defeat the Anti-Monitor. After the first Crisis, between 2992 and 3000, Don Allen would eventually marry Meloni Thawne; and Dawn Allen would eventually marry Jeven Ognats. In the year 3000, They would have Bart Allen and Jenni Ognats before fleeing from Earth-One (or New Earth/ Prime Earth) to Earth-247 (Reboot Legion’s Earth) to protect themselves from the Reverse-Flash shortly before they were killed by Dominators that were sent by Thaddeus Thawne, who followed them to Earth-247 and shortly became President of the United Planets two years before the Reboot Legion made their debut. From 3000 to 3002, Bart and Jenni would age into teens, causing Iris (who traveled to Earth-247 alongside her biological parents) to send Bart back to the year 2003 (in which Bart is aged to 14 years old) to halt his aging and control his speed; while Jenni would be aged to 15 years old, unlock and control her powers, and join the Reboot Legion in the year 3002. Jenni would spend the next eight years (from 3002 to 3010) with the Reboot Legion before Bart and the first generation Young Titans (a combination of Young Justice and Titans, in which Young Justice would be trained by the Titans) arrive from the year 2010 to aid her help to fight the Fatal 500. Jenni would spend the next three years (from 3010 to 3013) being stuck between dimensions along with the Reboot Legion before being summoned by the Original Legion to defeat the Time Trapper alongside the Threeboot Legion of Earth-Prime, eventually learning her true origins. Between 3013 and 3022, Jenni would later travel back to the modern day (between 2013 and 2022) to meet up with her cousin Bart (who became Earth-One’s third/New Earth’s fourth Flash) and team up with the modern age superheroes and the Flash Family; all while training the next generation of Legionnaires in the 31st century. All of this would mean that by Dark Crisis in the year 2022 (or 3022), Barry and Iris would be 59 years old in the year 2022 (and Iris would be 86 years old in the year 3022), the Tornado Twins and their spouses would be 51 years old in the year 3022, Bart would be 33 years old in the year 2022 (or 34 years old in the year 3022), and Jenni would be 35 years old in the year 3022 (or 33 years old in the year 2022). This would mean that the Original Legion would be active for 41 years, while the Reboot Legion would be active for 20 years all in the 30th/31st-century timeline in the main DC universe.

[@MichaelHeide]

It's just another Tuesday to him. And Wednesday. And Saturday. And Monday. All at once.

[@masonl87]

19:08 Eccentrica Galumbits is a frequently mentioned (though never seen) character in the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy books. Solid cameo.

[@mattwo7]

Pretty sure that in DC's Legends of Tomorrow, the three-chested alien women that Mick Rory wrote about and later accidentally brought to life with a magic book or pen (I forget which) was also a reference to her.

[@MrfnordTim]

@@mattwo7 More likely a Total Recall reference, IMO

[@Bicornis]

@@MrfnordTim Nope. Her name and the planet Eroticon VI are both directly from Hitchhiker's Guide.

[@MegaManDBZX]

I actually love what they did in the Legion of Superheroes animated series where in they took Clark Kent from right before he went to Metropolis (and I mean the hour before he went to Metropolis.) brought him to the future to help them out, he got the Superman suit there, and trained with them a bit before returning to his own time to officially become Superman thus creating a time loop where the Legion created the being who inspired them in the first place.

[@christopherb501]

So you recommend that one? Tis one of those shows nobody ever talks about.

[@randomhourglass5687]

@@christopherb501 Season 1 is great, especially the latter half. Season 2 is a huge drop in quality, but it still has its moments.

[@foxfireinferno197]

@@randomhourglass5687 If only it had been drawn by someone who actually knew ... how to draw.

[@daelen.cclark]

I wonder if someone’s gonna patron it.

[@the4thwallkid132]

Looks at title card: Behold the newest member of the Legion of superheroes, FOURTH WALL MAN!! Because I AM A MAN (Punch) "Breaks the fourth wall punching someone"

[@liamtheman2099]

*gets punched in the stomach* Ow, control those punches, man!

[@SorowFame]

His power is to punch through the fourth wall to acquire a random object that may or may not be helpful

[@jordanhunter3375]

Better concept than what my first thought was. Behold the smoldering might of CHARCOAL GRILL MAN!

[@DrakeyC]

Ah yes, the science police. The ultimate result of Discovery's attempts to reboot Mythbusters with ever new teams.

[@myriadmediamusings]

Would be cool to see the Legion given more chances in adaptations. Theyve really only been used for smaller apperances, and it wouldnt surprise me if, for many, that 2000s cartoon was their first exposure to the group and its colorful cast.

[@nickasaro8789]

The 2000s legion cartoon is the best.

[@BlueJaguarRanger]

Hello, patron who requested this review here and I can confirm the cartoon was my first exposure

[@TevyaSmolka]

Well you may get your wish with Brian Michael bendis going to adapt his run for a adult legion of superheroes animated series.

[@benjaminmuratore9341]

The legion of superheroes cartoon is CRIMINALLY underrated.

[@benjaminmuratore9341]

And for what it's worth, the show was my first exposure as well.

[@WillKeaton]

As an avid _Stargate_ fan I want you to know that I both understood and really appreciate all the _Stargate_ jokes.

[@christopherb501]

Couldn't get the chevron reference; what did he mean?

[@mattwo7]

I haven't seen Stargate in segA but I got most of the references.

[@mattwo7]

@@christopherb501 Chevron is a V-shape, in this case, it's the indicator of the current stage of the coordinate dialing process and is also just general iconography for the show, on the logo of Stargate Command and the Stargate franchise as a whole, stylized as STARGᐰTE with ᐰ being the chevron.

[@buchiklop110]

@@christopherb501 The 8th Chevron allowed travel to Atlantis, and the 9th to the Destiny, the ship from Universe.

[@jaredohlstein7355]

Kinda wish he made a few more of those jokes

[@christophermitchell9739]

I loved the Legion of Superheroes cartoon as a kid. It's fun learning about the comics.

[@christophermitchell9739]

@ChronoArcaile2019 That sounds about right though I'm not 100% on the dates.

[@genesismultiverse4896]

Yeah also their apearence in lego dc cosmic clash (ok i may have mistaken the name)

[@delaneymiller5822]

Ah yes the Reboot era. The best era of the Legion. Also that was Chameleon (Boy) not Gates.

[@saidi7975]

Oh yeah. This version is the best!

[@thenewmase]

Apparition is a pretty cool unisex name for a superhero that can become intangible

[@Martynde]

"You magnificent bastard! I read your mind!"

[@KenshiImmortalWolf]

Now i just want Linkara to do more stargate comics if they are out there.

[@MovieMan1710]

"Everyone knows the Legendary Man of Steel!" "And his Legendary Mullet!" Am I the only one who actually kinda likes Mullet Superman?

[@joshuaingobo1559]

You’re not the only one. Mullet Superman looks bold, daring, and cool!

[@jamesadamsfl]

Personally, I think it looks weird on a farmboy from Kansas, but I can't deny it looks striking with the costume, especially in profile like we saw in the comic. Though, I always had to wonder: how did Clark explain the fact that he disappeared for a while when Superman died, and then when he came back they both had long hair?

[@christophermitchell9739]

@@jamesadamsfl Don't some people think the reason Clark always gets the scoop from Super Man is because they're friends? Just go with that I guess. I dipped out because I needed some time to come to terms with it, and I dug his mullet so I decided to have one too.

[@jamesadamsfl]

@@christophermitchell9739 Heh, I guess that works. Nice one

[@joshuaingobo1559]

@@jamesadamsfl The second Supergirl, or Matrix, had to disguise herself as Clark Kent before Superman’s resurrection.

[@mathewkrull4456]

I've been a Legion fan since I was a kid, and this was my favorite incarnation. BTW, that wasn't Gates, it was Chameleon Boy

[@carlrood4457]

The key here is they stuck pretty close to the original Legion origin, but added in some closer to reality politics and corporate stuff. They didn't change the characterizations much, so they seemed like the same people. The name changes were already in place from the Batch SW6/"Clone" Legion to get rid of there being so many Boy/Girl/Lad/Lass names. XS was a personal favorite. I love the whole Flash extended family and she was a welcome part of it. For those who don't want to do the research: Many years ago the Legion met the Tornado Twins in a single issue of their comic. They were supposedly descendants of Barry Allen temporarily given super speed as part of a holiday honoring The Flash. Years later, when The Flash series ended, Barry ended up moving the 30th century to be with Iris who wasn't as dead as previously thought (it's complicated). Turns out the Tornado Twins were their kids. Barry "died" in Crisis on Infinite Earths shortly thereafter. The Tornado Twins, Dawn and Don Allen, married and each had a child. Don is the father of Bart Allen aka Impulse/Kid Flash. Dawn is the mother of Jenni Ognatz aka XS.

[@joshuaingobo1559]

I’m which the Tornado Twins met the Original Legion in 2968 (or 964 years after Dark Crisis), before it was revealed that Iris was born in the year 2945 and spent nine years in real time (from 2970 to 2979) meeting her biological parents alongside Barry Allen. After her death in 1979 (or 27 years before Dark Crisis), she would spend six years in real time (from 2979 to 2985) living in the 30th century, before Barry from 1985 (or 25 years before Dark Crisis) would see Iris and would spend a month being with each other before his death. After Barry’s death during the first Crisis, Iris would realize that she’s pregnant with twins, and she decided to use the Cosmic Treadmill to go further back into the 30th century (around the year 2953) to have the twins, since she saw her kids being grown adults with super speed. The twins would be born in 2953 (or 949 years after Dark Crisis), and they would meet the Original Legion in 2968 (or 964 years after Dark Crisis), fall in love and marry their significant others (Don Allen marrying Meloni Thawne, a 30th century descendant of the Reverse-Flash and a distant relative of Barry Allen (because Barry has a secret twin brother who is Eobard Thawne’s ancestor, making Barry Eobard’s and Meloni’s ancestral uncle), and Dawn Allen marrying Jeven Ognats, and have Bart Allen (aka Impulse/Kid Flash/Flash) and Jenni Ognats (aka XS) in 2993 (or 978 years after Dark Crisis). After Bart and Jenni were born, they and their parents would travel from Earth-One (or New Earth/Prime Earth) to Earth-247 (the Reboot Legion’s earth) to escape from the time-traveling Reverse-Flash (from between his resurrection in Blackest Night and his appearance in Flash: Rebirth in 2009, or nine years before Dark Crisis). For the next two years, Bart and Jenni’s powers would manifest, causing them to age into being teenagers. This would lead to Iris, who arrived to Earth-247 with her parents to sent herself and Bart to 1994 (or 19 years before Dark Crisis) to get Wally’s help to make sure that Bart’s powers and age are stabilized, while Jenni’s age would be stabilized and her speed would manifest, causing her to join the Reboot Legion in 2995 (or 980 years after Dark Crisis).

[@AlecDraven]

16:10 There is the fact that "Livewire" is the name of a Superman villain that marketing obviously hasn't considered. Do people 1000 years from now remember Superman but not the people he fought against?

[@arklestudios]

Somehow I had no idea XS was from the comics and thought she was created for the Flash TV show (where she's Barry 's daughter as opposed to granddaughter). My step-parent is a huge Flash fan, I bet if I'd thought to ask them...

[@gracekim1998]

Remember she was originally meant to be called Dawn and yes literally every character in that show is based on the comics

[@Elementa2006]

Prior to Post Crisis, Legion Of Superheroes was not only one of DC's bestselling titles in the 70s and 80s, but was one of the few DC titles to hold strong against the dominance of MARVEL even outselling issues of Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. So yeah, the aftermath of COIE as well as Levits refusing to remove change the Superboy aspects of the book in order to fit within Superman's Post Crisis backstory really screwed over this book's saleswise. You think the Teen Titans had it bad during the New52, that's nothing compared to what the Legion went through, at least the Titans are still somewhat relevant to current comic readers.

[@genesismultiverse4896]

*7:41* oh hey a xenomorph

[@sophisticautistic5453]

If I am not mistaken... This is the third time Linkara has reviewed something Legion of Superheroes related and all three were Patreon reviews... I'm not complaining. It's just a pattern I've noticed.

[@AT4W]

As I've said, I'm not really a huge Legion of Superheroes fan - I only really got into it via the Threeboot, and even then I lost track after a while and it kind of got sent by the wayside for Johns and co. to bring back the original.

[@samwill7259]

I really, really, REALLY want to give the Legion a real shot at some point in my comic reading. I'm fascinated by them and I REALLY dig their design aesthetic, especially the cheesy formatting they use with their names, I just eat it up.

[@seancdaug]

This is probably the wrong iteration of the team to start with if you like the cheesy name formulations. This was in that weird period after the old Silver Age-style names stopped being current but before they started to have a certain retro stylishness. The updated names ("Live Wire" instead of "Lightning Lad," "Leviathan" instead of "Colossal Boy," etc.) arguably feel even more "of their time" than the original names do. (I do love this version of the team, though.)

[@JaelinBezel]

The problem here is which version of the Legion do you read?

[@samwill7259]

@@seancdaug Yea, I noticed that over the course of the episode. Really it's a shame, the naming scheme is, I think, one of the most charming things about the Legion. it gives them something of a unifying aesthetic core.

[@drewtodd4471]

I'd go for it sam. All the snarky stuff aside, Legion is about hope and unity. It's nice for a change. And it's just... good. I also recommend the Legends of Dead Earth annual where the last Legionnaire try to restore diplomacy in the galaxy.

[@meloniwinter226]

Go for a lot of the 70s stuff, it's arguably the best of the Legion. The designs are fun, characters actually got personality, and the art is absolutely gorgeous. It's also the easiest to get into

[@mattwo7]

8:24 Wait... Isn't that a thing in present-day Metropolis? I remember them being a thing in DCUO and apparently Pre-Crisis James "Jim" Harper was a 21st Century member as his alter ego, Guardian (not to be confused with the clone also named James Harper (no known nickname) who was also Guardian, Jim had his own set of "Clone Saga" issues too BTW, tons of clones and clones of the first clone, a hybrid clone of a first clone and a "DNAlien" named Dubbilex (and DNAliens were already hybrids of humans and aliens), it was a real mess).

[@ajnapalm]

This was my introduction to the Legion and I loved it.

[@charlesswansonii9319]

No, no, no, the Stargate jokes are genius. Please, keep them coming. It's always a relief to know you're also a fan.

[@Anynom]

As someone reading then, this was needed, the Legion backstory just such a damn mess that it's one case a "fresh start" really worked. Helped by keeping them feeling like teens coming into being heroes and some good work. Really one of the best things to come out of Zero Hour.

[@foolwriter]

I was a teenager during the LSH Reboot era, and it was one of my favorite books and still have a complete run. They were solid space opera superhero material - not too flashy, but with a good pace and some cool reworks (Princess Projectra/Sensor was a trip). Even the weird, dark turn into Legion Lost managed to build on it until DC got reboot happy again... This was a cool flashback, man.

[@mikegates8993]

Hey, I read the Superman Crossover with the Legion that explained their retconned history a few days ago when I started reading Superman's pos-crisis stuff. Nice coincidence.

[@mattwo7]

21:19 Well either that or Black Spider found his way into the future.

[@TheMadMaple]

I've always had a soft spot for the Legion of Super-Heroes. I started reading during the Paul Levitz/Keith Giffen run in the early 80s, and was hooked. And around the same time, DC turned Adventure Comics into a digest-sized reprint book, and they made a point of putting at least two classic Legion stories in every issue, so it was easy to catch up on the group's history. (And the Levitz/Giffen run also introduced probably one of the best interactive easter eggs in comic books, Interlac. They created a simple cypher, and plastered every sign and notice in the background with it. When you crack the code, you get a bunch of fun little background gags. It's easy to find the code online nowadays, but back in the 80s, it was like stumbling on some arcane secret if you figured it out.) And it's too bad you're not much of a Legion fan. With all the reboots and continuity shifts, it's almost tailor-made for one of your month-long retrospectives.

[@seancdaug]

Wow, someone else who remembers the Adventure Comics digest reprints! I didn't get into the Legion until several years later (right at the tail end of the pre-Zero Hour run, actually), but my real gateway to the team were copies of Adventure Comics digests my father had picked up when they were coming out.

[@docette2015]

Nice! Good to see a reboot that's actually doing the job well. :) Though yes, I agree that the newer characters should have been introduced more slowly -- ah well, them's the breaks.

[@lorddrayvon1426]

To anyone wondering, the clone saga clone never came to be for 4 reasons. 1. They could get sued by Marvel for stealing the idea. The idea of clones isn't unique but the way Marvel went about it which they were cloning is. 2. The polarising reception was seen as too great a risk for a book whose sales were already declining. 3. The creative team hating the idea and 4. It would have come out mid-1994. By 1994, the Speculator Boom was collapsing and thus such gimmicks that rely on impulse buys were seen as useless and dated. DC saw the writing on the wall and almost immediately abandoned such gimmicks which is part of the reason they survived whereas Marvel filed for bankruptcy.

[@melainakiss]

I always forget about the Legion of Superheroes but then I regain my memory when you start talking about them again. Maybe it's because they've been rebooted so many times.

[@melainakiss]

@Will N Wow. Good to know. New readers in 2009 and onwards must have been a bit confused.

[@michaelrhett4958]

Linksano would TOTALLY lead the Science Police

[@daelen.cclark]

He would found the science police!!!

[@ShadowWingTronix]

This was my first proper exposure to the Legion, though I had heard of them prior. I thought it was a pretty good introduction.

[@jbleichman]

17:32: I see you, Jean-Luc…

[@jamcalx]

I remember getting a copy LoSH #0 as a kid during a free comicbook giveaway at the Camp Pendleton Commissary when my dad was in the Marine Corp. This was my Legion, with the cartoon as a close second.

[@Devoguy]

I'm a lifetime Legion fan. These two issues were a really good retelling of the origin of the Legion. I loved this version of the Legion!

[@SuperMutant2099]

Zero Hour reboot probably my favorite version of Legion of super heroes

[@jimhjortsberg2990]

DC wanting Superboy scrubbed from the DCU is Kinda funny considering they legally had to a decade or so later.

[@carlrood4457]

30 years ago I never noticed the Hitchhiker's Guide reference.

[@robo-nidai4236]

"They just jump from a crossover storyline in one issue to the next being in a full reboot as a result of an event comic stuff." Are we talking about the Legion of Superheroes or the New 52?

[@joshuaingobo1559]

You make the call!

[@CMWaters]

Livewire as his name... Sounds like it could have been a Dr. Light situation if they went to the DCAU and met the villainess that debuted in the Superman series.

[@HBHaga]

That wasn't Gates but rather Chameleon (formerly Chameleon Boy) from Durla.

[@radicaledward3783]

The lightning beasts part made be laugh because you can't just harness natural electricity, you'd probably need a power inverterter to take the alternating current from the lightning beasts to the direct current that batteries use, unless you want your battery to blow up... I'm a nerd. (Biologists and electricians feel free to correct me on that.)

[@BlueJaguarRanger]

There is no continuity where the Ranzz siblings are smart

[@daelen.cclark]

I wonder how Lightning Lad would work with that aspect in mind.

[@allsuper9268]

I love the legion so much but I wish that they would get more attention!

[@freakyzed8467]

Mr Testosterone and the Testosterone Force sounds like the greatest 80s comic EVER!

[@mattwo7]

When it comes to the Legion of Superheroes, I'm mostly only familiar with the Legion of Super-Heroes Cartoon, the JLA episode "Far From Home", the direct-to-DVD movie Justice League vs. the Fatal Five (on a side note, Green Lantern powers have always been a concept of personal interest, similar to the Speed Force and between that film and DC Super-Hero Girls, Jessica had quickly become a personal favorite, even if in both she's technically secretly Power Ring, chosen by the Ring of Volthoom at some point after Earth-Three Hal Jordan died (I'm sure this origin is different or won't be brought up in DCSHG) and not actually a Green Lantern) and Braniac 5's appearance on Supergirl

[@mesektet5776]

I just picture DC is run by Mentok the Mind Taker: "I declare a do-over!"

[@ianfontanet4230]

Come to think of it, I can imagine seeing the Mane Five meeting the new Young Six, who turned out to be the clones of the original group. And speaking of that, the Mane Five would be an analog of The Legion of Superheroes, trying to live up the legacy.

[@tbthegr81]

It's ok Linkara, ya can't do too many Stargate jokes!

[@genesismultiverse4896]

I remember watching the legion of superheroes cartoon

[@jackdavis4657]

I love that you get to be paid to review comics that people recommend. I just wish they were more like this: In that the patreon picked comics that you, Linkara, are familiar or passionate about. I wish I could snag a spot and in a comic I know it would lead to an awesome discussion...but hey. I'm still happy you're able to put these out for us and live comfortably. Maybe I'm just yelling at clouds...

[@Cdr2002]

Science police? Maybe she’ll get to work with Ultraman!

[@lemonherb1]

I loved this era of the Legion. I’ve bought the book since the baxter paper series plus a few back issues of stuff from the 60’s.

[@wstine79]

I'd love to see what the of Superheroes and Legionnaires would be depicted in the New 52 era.

[@joshuaingobo1559]

It would be the Original Legion continuing their adventures post-Infinite Crisis.

[@jamesadamsfl]

Well, one thing they did was take part in a terrible crossover with Teen Titans in a dumb "Hunger Games" rip-off featuring an overpowered and annoying villain named Harvest. The story was called "The Culling," and Linkara did a review of all 4 issues. His review was, as far as I can tell, the only good thing to come out of that mess.

[@MythicSuns]

9:09 don't forget 8 for switching galaxies and 9 for boarding Destiny.

[@ronnielane8985]

Not just *any* stripper, it's Eccentrica Gallumbits from Hitchhiker's Guide!

[@rassilontdavros3004]

Genuinely surprised you didn't get the _Hitchhiker's Guide_ reference.

[@MichaelHeide]

These were the Legion comics at the time I got into American comic books. It's still my favorite iteration of the team.

[@brendaneichler5480]

7:15 That's the thing about the Legion that always bugged me, the "I am a [insert species here], so I can [insert superpower here]" aspect. Okay, so everyone of your species can do your job, why should we pick this guy/gal in particular where there are millions if not billions of you folk around?

[@daelen.cclark]

That’s a nice touch the comic made. It’s the personality & willingness to help others that counts. I hope that helps.

[@ErikVonStrix3]

So the timing of this is impeccable (for me) because I finally got around to finishing Young Justice (hadn't seen it since it was airing on Cartoon network), and the Legionaries had a relatively big role In season 4

[@scottvanbuskirk9523]

Aaah the Reboot Legion. Unfortunate that the first year and a half was a bit too bogged down in the mechanics of putting the Legion together, because there's a lot to love about this incarnation of the team and it's still easily the strongest start the series has ever had (even if I've landed on preferring the pre-Crisis Legion).

[@jordanhunter3375]

7:12 When did Doctor Zoiberg and Sinstero become journalists?

[@koku6626]

This is a personal thing, but I'm glad they tried to give the Leigon different names. I kinda realized a lot of the main ones were basically *power* boy/girl

[@ztyran]

16:16 I think a better joke would've been, Garth asking "yeah but wasn't that a old supervillain" an comments about that depends on the continuity.

[@clarktooncrossing3975]

7:35 XENOMORPH! Wait, is this the timeline where Bruce failed to eradicate them all in South America? Or at least one got away, imprinted on other DC aliens, then those offspring gained intelligence before becoming their own peaceful civilization? This is the DC Universe, you can't tell me that couldn't happen here! Also, is it weird I'd totally read that comic?

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

bro when did batman fight a xenomorph? I can't believe I've never heard of this

[@AT4W]

Batman/Aliens! Did reviews of the two issues of it already if you want to look them up. =)

[@clarktooncrossing3975]

@@AT4W Both of which were super awesome! Still hoping you'll do a follow up where Batman fights xenos that had their DNA spliced with his villains (cuz comics).

[@clarktooncrossing3975]

@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 If you think that's crazy, Superman fought'm too. Darkseid crushed a facehugger in his giant hand! And Batman fought a Predator three separate times!

[@trevorghalt1881]

It's cool to see some more Legion of Superheroes stuff, I really don't know much about them and poor Kid Quantum

[@keirgomcginlay2044]

Oh Legion of Super Heroes. Never change from always chaning.

[@hollyswoods]

It bugs me that with this Garth there are multiple characters with the nickname Gar (two of which being on the Titans) and that's not even including the multiverse versions.

[@CalciumChief]

10:31 Well, excuuuuuse me, princess. Don't see you doing anything. Why don't you make them think they're already in a cell or feel super happy. At least call some other guards with your mid powes. Or what, you can only read few thoughts? If so, why were you busy reading these two guys instead of the assassins learn where they might escape to. 13:04 Can't tell if it's just the shaow, or is Supes supposed to have that 90's mullet he got after coming back to life.

[@A1ml33y]

I will admit I'm more Familiar with the DCAU version of the Legion of Superheroes that showed up on Superman Tas & Justice League Unlimited. Also the late 80s / Early 90s Legion that had Lobo on the team . XS I am more Familiar with from the Flash CW Arrowverse, I kinda like their Take on Brainac 5 , Mon El , Dreamer . And Marvel's riff on the legion over in X-Men with the Shi'ar Imperial Guard which I have a soft spot for I know it's weird 😅

[@Caernath]

17:20 I figured that the ball meant that he was a descendant of Karl Ziktor/Grimlord from VR Troopers.

[@Polycomical]

" Science police! Back away from that illegal hypothesis!"

[@Avenger85438]

With a few tweaks these comics would be a great basis for a Legion of Superheoes animated series pilot.

[@Weirdoid]

Rokk Krinn of Braal. As in Rock of Braal the asteroid city in D&D's Soelljammer setting. And Krynn is the world of the Dragonlance setting.

[@jackwells8107]

Minor correction: the one you said was probably Gates was Chameleon (Boy originally, but I think they dropped that for the reboot). The Durlans have often been shown wearing robes like that, while Gates' race isn't actually bipedal.

[@strandedgeek]

I recently watched the often over looked Legion of Superheroes cartoon. It came around 2006 right around Justice League Unlimited & sadly near the end of the Teen Titans shows (though unrelated). It was actually really good. Specially the second season, it kinda sucks that it got abruptly canceled apparently over the fact CBS didn't want to be known as "the super hero channel" or some other dumb reason. Still at least the 2nd season ended on a mostly happy note with wrapping most of the plot points up. If I had the money & I'd make that a Patreon request for Linkara.

[@skyslasher2297]

16:09 which is kinda ironic since Livewire is the name of a super villain.

[@Bobsheaux]

19:01 - And her name is Eccentrica Galumbits? Hey, Douglas Adams' estate? There's something you need to look at here...

[@jamesadamsfl]

My favorite part of this was all the Stargate references. I was genuinely disappointed when Linkara said he was done with them. This is actually a pretty good reboot (and unlike most reboots had a decent reason for why it was rebooting at all). I like how it explains the necessity for a Legion of Superheroes in a galaxy where darn near everyone has powers: that it's the characters that make them heroes not their abilities. Add in the fact that the galaxy is only just uniting and some planets apparently have fresh wounds or old grudges, and you can understand why there's a necessity for this kind of group. I also really like the friction between Brand (ironic name for a CEO) and the President, his altruism and vision for a united galaxy versus her very clear interest in positioning Earth at the top of the heap. It's the sort of stuff that promises complex, interesting narratives in the future.

[@jamesadamsfl]

Also, Oh My Gosh, Superman's mullet!

[@RichardWatt]

You can never have too many Stargate references :)

[@bounty_hunter101]

I honestly prefer the reboot legion over the original team. It was their interactions between the two books that kept me hooked.

[@lagozzino]

Regarding the way they presented the covers in the TPB, there was a period in the late 90s where DC's policy seemed to be that trades should downplay that they're a collection of multiple issues and not one continuous graphic novel. They wouldn't place the covers between issues and edit out any "the end" or "to be continued" captions form the end of issues so it wasn't always clear when one issue ended and the next started. Sometimes they'd even black out caption boxes that contained story titles or editorial credits. I'm guessing that it was all a desperate attempt at appealing to "serious" graphic novel readers who looked down on serialized comics.

[@m.comicman243]

Did anyone else catch that xenomorph at 7:34? It does kinda make sense. I mean, Batman did fight them that one time.

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

...what? Batman did??

[@MeliesCinemagician]

Good to see that the United Planets is willing to let bygones by bygones.

[@m.comicman243]

@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 Yes, he did. Linkara even looked at both issues of that crossover.

[@Paxchi]

The Legion recruit in the hooded cloak was Chameleon / Chameleon Boy, not Gates. In that version of the Legion Durlan (Cham's species) tended to wear hooded cloaks when in their normal form, which was more of a Lovecraftian mass of tentacles. I believe the DC series Invasion! introduced the concept and the reboot Legion series went with it.

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

3:54 Seeing this episode's thumbnail / cover, I wonder, what would be Linkara's Legion of Super Heroes name? Comic Lad? Komik-Kid? Comic Book Boy? Reviewer Lad? 17:14 Wasted opportunity to have you pet your own cats Linkara, while you say that dialogue

[@BlueJaguarRanger]

Loved the review!

[@ZatchZXman]

With the comic sliding time scale and constantly changing timelines, you'd think that the writers for Legion of Super Heroes just throw away arbitrary year numbers and make their own timeline like Gundam. Go from Common Era (CE) to InterGalatic Era (IGE) That way you can always have an arbitrary amount of years between the main DC timeline and the Future timeline and leaving it inconspicuous.

[@TevyaSmolka]

I keep forgetting that the legion of superheroes keep getting rebooted

[@carlrood4457]

So the only image of Superman was during his brief mullet phase

[@zwartdude]

I'm surprised they call the sci-fi tech "star gates" and risk copyright when DC has Zeta beam tech for teleports in the modern era. Why not just make that some kind of warp drive tech and make the billionaire the decendant of Adam Strange?

[@sebastianevangelista4921]

DC has too many reboots while Marvel doesn't have enough (the 2015 Secret Wars would have been a perfect means of accomplishing that but nope). Also, I never considered the matter of these characters eventually becoming public domain until you brought it up.

[@LordLazaruss]

12:23 - he went to a bar asking the wrong kinds of questions... ... "Is it called soccer or football ?"

[@leephillips4402]

I forgot there was a Legion of Superheros book called Legionarries, I guess that's why Marvel went with Legion of X.

[@lakelandbuzz2252]

Wonder if that alien stripper knows Zaphod Beeblebrox...

[@JohnDoe-zm3cr]

A leader named "Brand" explaining marketing lol.

[@RichardWatt]

Subtlety.exe not found?

[@EmperorSeth]

Wait, Livewire? Isn't the other Livewire (the Superman/girl villain introduced in the animated series) part of the DC continuity as well? If so, I guess she got missed in the 30th-century records.

[@mitchfletcher2386]

That's probably why Garth didn't like it.

[@seancdaug]

This was a few years before Superman TAS, of course. And technically the villain writes it as a single word while the hero uses two. Plus, the Legion has a Brainiac, so it's not like adopting the names of notorious Superman villains is without precedent. 😉

[@cheezemonkeyeater]

Flasks are much better for throwing than test tubes. There's an easier point to grip and that makes it easier to ensure they break when you throw them.

[@gracekim1998]

Time to break the fourth wall again 😂 good morning 👋🙂

[@DrSunnyPyro]

This the best review ever and you actually here all the best lines linkara delivers with passion