Best Spinning Reels 2024 [don’t buy one before watching this]

[@LegitPick]

► Links to the best spinning reels 2023 we listed in this video: ► 6. KastKing Sharky III Fishing Reel - geni.us/xaTYPr ► 5. PENN Slammer III Spinning Fishing Reel - geni.us/VyinS ► 4. Lew’s Custom Inshore Speed Spin - geni.us/qWs2XSb ► 3. Shimano Stradic FL - geni.us/4NB1m ► 2. Penn Battle III Spinning Fishing Reel - geni.us/PUAUfG ► 1. Daiwa BG Spinning Reel - geni.us/d2Di

[@kjbalog1]

At 74 and having used all of these, the Shimano is the smoothest most dependable. The old Penn's were bullet proof but not as smooth as the newer reels. The 10- 15. year oldPhleger reels are smooth and long lasting for a great price.

[@thatguy199212]

The only gripe I have with this reel is the weight, but that goes with the size of the reel kzbin.infoUgkxM68VkfsQhHaabDce1IwOCXuvumcpbZ_k . I brought this salmon fishing up in Oswego, NY. I coupled it with a Cabela's Whuppin Stick. I had no problem pulling in a 14lb salmon. I will probably use this for surf fishing this summer and downgrade to a 3500 series Battle II next salmon season to save my wrists. All of the operations are butter smooth and the bail is nice and thick and has a solid flip to it. Everything about this reel is sturdy and strong. The drag system held up to the salmon and was also super smooth. I did use a scale to set the drag properly before going out to the river and this worked out tremendously. A bunch of other guys on the river would hook up and snap almost immediately. Just because you have a good drag system doesn't do anything if you don't set it correctly.

[@Mike_The_Hog_A_Nator]

I have two KastKing Spartacus 2 for a little over a year now. I've caught so many Large Redfish from 21" to 46"! The onky issue is it has a plastic cap opposite side of your handle that snaps easily but KastKing has sent me 2 replacements no questions asked.

[@christophervarela7699]

I have penn battle 2 3000, penn battle 3 3500, and 6000 series plus spinfisher vi 4500. Love them all

[@WillK.Mellon]

Big Penn & Shimano fan here. I like the Shimano Bait-Runner series of spinning reels. The Shimano Charter-Special (a lever drag) is also a favorite reel of mine. Penn Reels that are 50+ years old are still fishing reliably (with minimal/easy maintenance), and my old 940/930 are still good-to-go reels. The Mariner, though bulky and awkward, is an excellent wire-line trolling reel. Tx 4 da video !

[@RCSTILE]

This comparison is ridiculous. How can you compare a Penn Saltwater reel that weights almost a pound and a half to a bass reel that might weigh 11 ounces?

[@six6tysix]

Slammers come in smaller sizes duh

[@davidarwood6264]

Comparing $50 reel with $200-$300 reels ? Yeah , the Sharky is a good reel. Compare it with something in the same range and you'll find crap.

[@HARUN.OFFICHAL45]

😂😂😂❤

[@davidgibson1524]

I fish for big catfish with a Penn saltwater baitcaster reel and a big spinning reel

[@VickiAnkney]

Easy it's called Quality...

[@502austin8]

I use the sharky 3 baitfeeder 5000 on a bnm silvercat elite 7'6 rod and have caught several 50+ lb flatheads had the reel 2 years cleaned and re oiled/greesed 4 or 5 times still runs smothe

[@rodolfomanuel8359]

Penn he's always been the best for me. I have 86 Penn rods and reels, some of them are combos setup! And I love them very much!

[@kencleg7721]

Tuna surface rock cod bottom to surf

[@jeffwalker6137]

I can tell everyone that the Daiwa BG is the best here . And the Penn Battle lll is second . but with that being said Shimano has some real high end as well . Plus i do own Daiwa BG8000 Saltwater and the Penn Battle lll 8000 . Daiwa holds more line and has 6 plus1 ball bearing plus 33 Lb max Drag and 5.6:1 Gear ratio 53.3" per turn . the Penn Battle lll has 5 plus 1 Ball bearing plus 30 Lb max Drag and Gear ratio 5.3:1 44" per turn. The Daiwa Runs Real Smooth when Reeling in a Big and Heavy Whale of a Fish. Oh one more thing they both are the same price 159.95 $ at lest it was may have changed .

[@davidarwood6264]

I have the older Sharky 3 with a all aluminum body. It's a 1000 size with 33 lbs of drag 😅. It's about 3 years old and i haven't used it much. Ive ordered a very nice Kastking Perigee rod I'm going to put it on . There's nothing wrong with their products. Look stuff over when you get it. They replace anything quick. Keep everything clean and oiled. Like anything should be. I thought about a Diawa , Shimano and almost ordered the new Okuma Cyelio but why ? It seems I would be getting less at the same price range. You want a spinning reel that can be submerged or sprayed with water....Kastking has the Spartacus 2 . It's definitely a bargain. I almost ordered it. Why when I have a Sharky laying around.

[@dannypeters8126]

I have the penn reel matched with the flueger 1piece rod,but its not the slammer reel,had it for over 8 years now and its really smooth.

[@SDFishGuessWhoMeAgain]

Penn Battle III has to be cleaned every 4-5 times after kayak fishing in the ocean. The gears freeze up. Doesn't hold up according to the price.

[@michellerobinson7639]

Kastking 3000 is fire 🔥 for 30$ straight 🔥

[@midwestshoreangler9127]

I have a very bad experience with the daiwa bg. I purchased one to use for paddlefish in freshwater, and to use in the salt whenever I go to the ocean. Unfortunately it didn’t last 2 fish. Hooked one paddlefish and during that fight the main gear popped a couple teeth. It was annoying to listen to but still usable. However on the second paddlefish the bail arm broke completely off.

[@generalsmith35]

That was a faulty one

[@spindrift2719]

I have some Penn reels for the kids and friends to use and have my Shimano reels (from flats -trout and redfish to -pompano & jacks off the jetties) for myself cause I like their smoothness casting and steady drag .

[@attilapala1814]

What good spinning reel Kastking vs. Piscifun?

[@shafiqabdmalek]

Kaskting sharky III is thr best saltwater issue no problem at all with this reel..

[@shafiqabdmalek]

@@TJXHT kastking is cheap option.,.

[@707SonomaComa]

What would you rather have..... Kastking Sharky Baifeeder III 6000 vs Penn aspinfidher VI 6500?

[@briangrant9026]

Best reel I ever owned was a Mitchell 300, still have 2 that I still use today! My daughter loves it too! Smooth, and no problems ever.

[@MrJoeflynn15]

I know a guide, Mitchells is all he uses for his clients. They work fine and you don’t cry if it gets abused.

[@kencleg7721]

Still have my Mitchell s 330 oto bail 400 and 5 308 and 15-20 spools the 300330400408410 all the same spool

[@johnbegovich1307]

8 Mitchell's here , 2 still in use , the others hold fond memories of fishing with my father in the early 60's with Shakespeare wonder rods.

[@briangrant9026]

@@johnbegovich1307 I've got 2 Shakespeare rods, I still use them when I can get them away from my kids!

[@USMC-1911]

I still have one that's 45 years old still runs like a champ .

[@omarsheriffkaptan]

My list Daiwa Saltiga Daiwa Certate Shimano Saragosa Daiwa BF Shimano Stradic Pen Battle III

[@jossfitzsimons]

😅I cant beat Shimano. 45 years and still using my first reel. I've taken in about 6 000 mackerel pillock gar ling cod Whiting red Gurner dog wrasse more and even s sea slug, that won me a competition for 'biggest variety' I also have a Penn four for African fishing...sailfish wahoo Dolphin fish= Dorado, not the usual pet like dolphin king fish barracuda etc. But mainly Xhimano and Daiwa. I rate Shimano highest.

[@ModedRaptor]

They’re definitely not built like they used to..

[@jackmason8965]

I love my Penn Battles and Abu Garcia Revo Rockets

[@vicentewhite9881]

I own three of the above mentioned the Kast King Sharky 3 in 5000 series the penn battle in 5000 for surf and dock fishing the penn edges it out on smoothness but the kast king has not let me down yet used both for 3 + years now as for the bay I use daiwa BG 3000 and Daiwa fuego in 3000 those are my go to's I have fought flounder, redfish and trout's without a hiccup.

[@rchydrozz751]

My Penn Battle 3 6000 DX is my go to for surf fishing. On a budget but want a decent, smooth reel. Get the Penn Pursuit IV 4000 and above.

[@kbgjew]

I bought a sharky 2 a couple years ago because they got good reviews. Lubed it up first day, rinsed after fishing brackish, maintained properly, and it busted after about a year. I’ll never buy Kastking again; might as well be Sougaliyang to me

[@AlfonsoPreciadoGonzalez-yq3nt]

Penn reels aré the Best fishing reels of the world 🌎🌍 from USA to me you & Other people whose love fishing sport forever ❤❤❤😊😊😊 I love my pennfishing takle 😊😊😊

[@VickiAnkney]

Wrong You never tried a quality reel. l'v used penn and never again and I'm 78 and I'v also used reels you never heard of that was better than penn.

[@jimsheldon3738]

The Penn Slammer would have to be my first choice in a quality build that will holdup in the salt environment!

[@harrydietrich3854]

I choose Shimano Stadic due to super stopper bearing, a very strong and stable spin reel!!!😊😊😊

[@tomholcomb3778]

My son's and grandkids fish gills n walleyes. Diawa n Shamano get 'er done 👍. Four lbs test , ultra lite ---- FUN !!!!

[@jamesrricesr.3365]

I'll probably get the Shimano.

[@adrianoramos4346]

I have a slammer III 4500 and I'm very happy with it. Almost all my reels are shimanos but love a good old Penn as well

[@leonolszewski4302]

What’s the heaviest fish you can catch with the 4500?

[@adrianoramos4346]

@@leonolszewski4302 that's tricky mate. I've got 30lb sufix 832 braid on that reel. It all depend on your set up and how you handle the fish after hooking it. I most of the times match that with an 8 footer daiwa hype PE 2/4. It's my casting rod. The set up is solid enough for a decent tuna (not one of those 400 kg monsters but I'm sure 80kg tuna wouldn't be a problem if I took my time and work the drag out. Biggest one I've caught was a 32kg Spanish mack

[@oalves92]

Penn are good reels (Sargus ; Battle; Slamer top) but spare parts forget. I waited 6 months plus 5 months to have repaired two of my Penn reels. PePENN NO MORE

[@NewAlert-fo9vc]

caught multiple big coho salmons with this@@leonolszewski4302

[@Bigalfonduty]

I'd like to make a Penn setup for bass fishing. Any suggestions?

[@moseskongi4746]

I'm not an expert but if I was looking at a penn setup for bass, I wood first take a look at what kind of water I fish. Does it have alot of cover / structure (i.e., brush, rocks, vegetation), or is it more like a reservoir out west and southwest that doesn't have as much bass habitat? If it's the first type, I wood get me the 4000 size battle and put it on a medium heavy rod. The reel is only 12 oz and holds 260yards of 20 lb braid with 15lbs of drag so it wood be more than strong enough to overpower a bass to keep it from running into structure to cut you off. If it's the latter though, I wood get the 2500 sized battle. It should be good enough for any bucketmouth you hook up on. Ways less than 10oz and can hold 220 yards of 15lb braid with 12lbs of drag.

[@VickiAnkney]

Yes go with Daiwa 15 bg 30 bg or 20 I have them all 15 med light 20 med heavy 30 heavy great for cats 30 # braid. just match the rods most important

[@ups350]

I have a Penn Battle III 4000 and a Daiwa BG 5000, and Daiwa feel better, I prefer the BG over the Battle III

[@1FishinAddict]

Kastking sharky 3 is a 5yrs old reel. Inshore/freshwater bass that’s it.

[@jimbo4612]

Toy for amatuer entry level anglers

[@FishandBeers]

Bought 1 took out for rock cod cheap plastic broke 1st used . Junk stay away this reel.

[@muzammilm.nurdin3349]

Daiwa BG is similar to Toyota Corolla that your grandpa still use... It simply won't die/break

[@moseskongi4746]

1500 and 2000 bg both weigh 8.5 oz, witch is same as what my old reel weighs and I'm used to, but these only have 4.4lbs of drag. The 2500 size has 13lbs of drag but is heavier and I don't know if I want to use a heavier reel when I'm making casts all day. They really fucked up making those smaller reels with only 4lbs of drag. That's stupid.

[@youssefindesert3409]

I used a daiwa it is good. So I can buy a corolla Toyota without fear as you compare it to daiwa. A mechanician also recommend it to me

[@jimbo4612]

The Penn Slammer 3 came out in 2016 and the title here is best of 2023. Penn has obviously made other reels since 2016 including a stainless steel Slammer 4 DX, torque 2 and Penn Authority. More research should of been looked into or the title changed to possibly best buy for the money

[@KP11520]

Beyond annoying and even insulting really!!!

[@jimbo4612]

@@KP11520 note the price tag listing a 2024 penn slammer IV. A slammer 3 is critiqued in the Article. Obvious problem

[@ekonomikdegeriniyitirmisol7285]

Karşılaştırma yaparken aynı fiyat aralığında olmasına dikkat etmelisiniz. 50 dolarım var ne almalıyım. 100 dolarım var ne almalıyım vs.

[@panthera77yah.60]

I like the brand of ""Shackespeare"" 060 for casting or popping as well as Jigging too.....👍👍

[@davidarwood6264]

That WAS a good Shakespeare reel. I'm not so sure that make really good reels anymore. Their rods are good. I have a couple of vintage Shakespeare reels in the closet. They're the old Mitchell type.

[@Azizur84]

I have Daiwa BG 3000 and Penn battle IIIDX 4000

[@nisarpathan4036]

Should put in the prices for better comparison

[@scottdarby8579]

Penn Battle III been using Penn reels for years.

[@grantsmith505]

Stradic fl is the old model Battle 111 also

[@RODSAYTV]

I got sharky lll 4000 series the best reel..

[@homedaily6570]

Zebco my favorite

[@diegohperez6434]

Yes my friend thanks im retired all ready I look forward to go back to Colombia to do some fishing im leaving in London the life here is good but to go weekend fishing you have to lucky to get a good time to fish any way I start getting my equipment ready here is easy in Colombia is to expensive I have tree reels to choose from shimano daiwa and today I find this one penn which I remember back in the days was made in America every thing is made in china but friend recommend again see what happens anyway my friend I think you American I have so many people from USA to teach me like carpentry I do like as well well appreciate you help I hope I see you again we have big river in Colombia I will enjoy thanks 👌👌

[@janetsamsundar2867]

Pen 850 SSM gold best for me

[@omarsheriffkaptan]

Daiwa Certate should be on this list.

[@blizzington4528]

The Sharky is a great reel I have a 4k and 6k and I mean you cannot beat it for the money at all

[@antun57able]

All Kastking are great reels, for a day or two.

[@blizzington4528]

@@antun57able i don’t understand why people say this I’ve literally caught my biggest striper ever on sharky 4k which was 39” and almost 30lbs. Left it outside throughout the winter, dropped in sand,dunked it, and took it apart to service it and there was no sand anywhere nor was there corrosion.

[@lamiglass1]

As someone who’s been in the sport since the 70’s I will tell that todays Penn reels might be smoother than in the past but they aren’t as durable, drag systems aren’t as good and over all construction is junk compared to what they used to be

[@johnstrand2247]

Like everything else.

[@theburtons49]

What Vintage Reels would you reccommend Joe ? If you had to buy a new Reel what would you go for please.?

[@lamiglass1]

@@theburtons49 I primarily surf/jetty fish but occasionally fish from boat and back bay but all saltwater. Vintage reel 100% Penn greenie if you can find them, most guys that own them won’t sell them. As for new all of my surf/jetty reels are van staal but unless you are getting wet while fishing you don’t need to buy them, for all other fishing I do I have Daiwa Saltiga and Shimano Saragossa reels.

[@theburtons49]

@@lamiglass1 Thank you for your response.

[@moseskongi4746]

@@lamiglass1 You really think the modern drags on high end penns aren't as good as vintage models? The tech and materials in their drags are way better than anything on an older penn. And what makes you say they're junk ? I just bought a slammer and spinfisher earlier this year and they work great.

[@clayreynolds5502]

You guys need to try the Cadillac reels very nice reels smooth and they catch fish 🐟

[@tightlines106]

I’m a massive fan of the savage gear sgs10 series I have the 6000 and 18000

[@franciscocruz2910]

the sharky is good ...5000zise 60 dlls peen is good ... 4000 zise 80 - 110 - 180 dlls

[@michaelgreene]

I have also had a bad experience with the Daiwa BG. I have a 4000. If I tried to set the hook and missed the fish the handle would spin backwards very fast. Happened the second time I used it and then every time I used it. If I hooked the fish it would not do it. Guess I needed to be better setting the hook. Anyway I could not return it to the store where I bought it cause I didn't use it right away. Had to send it to an authorized Daiwa repair facility in Florida. It took months for them to get the part and repair it. Once returned it was fine but I would not buy another one.

[@concreatecube]

for me it has to be daiwa saltiga or shimano stella /twinpower but more expensive.

[@genivallimadasilva8776]

How many dollars did you receive to promote the brand you endorse in the video?

[@carlericpickett597]

Nice but all are too expensive for my tastes.

[@surfninjafishing8297]

Good list

[@manshachannel4096]

Nice friend 👍💯

[@rust8663]

I tried kastking for several years. The smoothness doesnt last a year or 6 months if you dont take care of it.

[@juancalincho66]

It's my personal opinion and with all my respect to you. I would have put Kastking Kapstan Elite instead of any of the Penn models. Kapstan Elite in any of its sizes offers much more in terms of price and features than Penn

[@umami0247]

Except durability Penn feels are tanks and yes you pay for that but if your a charter captain it's part of the game.

[@juancalincho66]

@@umami0247 I am changing my comment. I did the test of submerging the Kapstan Elite 3000 in saltwater twice on different days and waited a week to uncover it and my surprise was that the reel had saltpeter inside and also the seals were not well placed. The costumer service of Kastking sent me a new reel. I also did the same test with the Penn Spinfisher and found no saltpeter inside.

[@jimbo4612]

The penn Slammer 111 is the most advanced shown here from Penn which is odd as hell since Penn released these in 2016 and the title of the youTube is best of 2023. The kapstand elite came out Dec 24th 2021.

[@juancalincho66]

@@jimbo4612 I'm changing my opinion after i used the Kapstan Elite. Definitely there's now comparation with Penn they have a superior quality for long

[@juancalincho66]

@@umami0247 I bought two Kapstan Elite 3000 and 4000. Also I have a Penn Spinfisher and you can't compare quality. Penn all around best quality

[@raspuraspu8653]

me vas a comparar los precios?? compara precios tan bien entre el kasting y el pen slammer....

[@Randy_Samuel]

Verry cool 👍

[@vuleadventsite]

I hvae no idea what he doing. But i think what i owning van stall and shimano are best.

[@samsien9105]

you need to explain the ratio of spin and speed of each reel .

[@Stevos_HookedonRods4844]

Daiwas problem is they only keep spare parts for 5yrs, after that Good luck. I'll never buy Daiwa again for that reason

[@joephon3359]

Daiwa regal lt all day

[@michaelbarrick1668]

Choosing none of them , abu Garcia revo 3 x out preforms all the ones you talked about

[@moseskongi4746]

What's so good about a revo 3 ? I know it won't outperform or outlast a slammer stradic or bg. It has a graphite v- rotor and who want's graphite parts ?

[@techd9861]

@@moseskongi4746 I just sold my revo3 X, 2023 version. I do not like the feeling when I stop retrieving. It feels like the roator can not stop immerdiately when I stop turning the handle, then the roator will strike the reel body. Once I noticed the strike I notice it. I know the feeling does exist because of the physics. I tried my old 2014 Shimano Sahara, it does not give that much striking feeling as the revo3 x does. I believe it may be caused by the design of the roller bearing used in the revo3 X. Just two cents I want to add.

[@moseskongi4746]

@@techd9861 Thanx boss.

[@40MileDesertRat]

This appears to be a video from someone that neither fished, nor serviced any of the reels. Although that's not to say that the reels are not good products or good values. The comparison is the problem.

[@hanahasani99]

Daiva bi ji nomber 1

[@abhithakur90]

no Daiwa on the list ?

[@mzahra1]

Daiwa BG

[@akosh1976]

actually number 1 was the daiwa

[@abhithakur90]

My bad

[@robertcox9226]

For more than 10 years daiwa BG has maintained superiority at a low price price. Best bang-for-the-buck.

[@Louiscare]

My brother in Christ a Daiwa BG is more money than I'd spend for a rod and reel

[@robertguzman2503]

With due respect I totally disagree, that's NOT a market fact, just an opinion.

[@generalsmith35]

Agreed I have one for 5 years an still butter smooth just upgraded to saltist 6500 for smaller size😊

[@Josepena-sq4vh]

Cuando uses el Shimano Spheros SW del 2021 cambiarás de opinión, el Daiwa BG del 2016 es muy buen carrete en ese rango de precio pero el Spheros puso muy alto el liston.

[@ReviewsBuster57]

Hello and how are you doing today? My Question is why? is it anybody are giving the right Honest review of this product? is it because you all are getting it for free?? and you must give the right review so you can get another free things from them??

[@mithufishing]

ভালো ভিডিও

[@axminsterz4151]

The original daiwa bg reels will last a lifetime

[@gabe.ch5555]

The only reel I can handle underwater in the sea, and when I come home in the evening rinse off with fresh water, some WD 40 and be able to fish again the next day without any problems!!!

[@Janotes]

I have old series BGs and the new version. The new are pretty good too. The old BGs were an upgrade from the Silverseries models- also Tanks. The 4000c was a beast along with the 7000 and 9000s..

[@dogsense3773]

Nothing lasts forever

[@HayaKhan-cn7qb]

i need

[@pettypendergrass8596]

Prices .. Tell us, we can take it :P

[@tedlee9709]

Who's needs a 10000 series for bass fishing... lol, don't know squat.

[@AlfonsoPreciadoGonzalez-yq3nt]

It Is an comercial 😊😊😊😊

[@fishingsecretswiths.m.3470]

sharky is best .

[@ScubaChris]

You're jumping around too much. Doesn't give "a flow". Stick to simply relatable categories like inshore spinners to baitcasters for example.

[@chuckschillingvideos]

Surf fishing for bass, eh? Can't say I've seen a lot of that - anywhere.

[@SDFishGuessWhoMeAgain]

Sand and some kelp bass around rocky structures close to shore. San Diego area.

[@robertcox9226]

Like the other one said advertisement

[@ameliabd92]

White People: "How long did it take you to come up with this choreography?" Black Dancer: "That was freestyle, I was was just vybing to the music. I went where it led me." 😏 Everyone without 'soul': "🤨" "🙄" "😲" "😒" Me: 😜😂👏🏿👏🏿 lol I'm stupid🫣 😅🤭

[@tomallen6073]

Surf fishing for Bass? Lol.

[@matthewmercer2477]

BG or better Daiwa. Shimano is hard to beat. Penn sucks ass, way to expensive and parts cost an enormous price now. Not the Penn of old. Okuma is hands down the best budget reel out there. I own over a dozen.

[@robertneal6878]

@matthew mercer I have a Penn 9500 SS circa 1990’s. It took a salt water bath when it ended up in the drink when the rod holder snapped off after something Big took off with it. Fished it out and did not recall any water seeping in. Only thing that went awry was a clicker switch/knob that came loose. My Brother has some old Penn models he is Still using. I had an Okuma 4/0 reel I bought to replace my Shimano. I liked the Okuma better. I also have an Okuma spinning reel I bought in Oahu that seems pretty solid.

[@six6tysix]

I literally replaced gears and bearings in Penn battles and fierce reels for less than $15 a reel. Good to go for another 3-4 years

[@stevedixon5318]

Horrible list....whoever did this video has never been fishing with a spinning reel apparently

[@bentpolski]

Not ONE American Made Reel here.

[@six6tysix]

Best reels are Japanese made 🤷🏻‍♂️ maybe domestic ones need to step up their game

[@MrTxalus]

Too funny. Just stop already.

[@ImmigrantUS]

Turn OFF stupid music and announce prices!

[@ИгорЖивановић]

it is sick to make comparisons between these machines. you put in a Chinese with up to 5 times more expensive machines

[@enlightenment6278]

pure know nothing

[@RonG2187]

Rear drag version

[@mzahra1]

Shimano Sahara has a rear drag, not many make them anymore

[@uziashalev2955]

[@h20bearboy65]

I have fished exclusively Penn Reels - particularly the Battle series for 10 years. everything from the 6500 to the 25oo. starting about 4 years ago - The quality has gone to hell. The last 2 I had to send back because of manufacturing issues, bail flip was hard - often had to do it by hand instead of just cranking, spools were not finished smoothly, crank was questionable at best. . I no longer use them. I'm not paying premium prices for a reel that the manufacturer has decided to save 6 cents in manufacturing - compromising the quality. They are pretty much garbage. I am now fishing Shimano - mostly integras - Great reels