LEGO Star Wars YAVIN 4 REBEL BASE COMPARISON! (2008 vs 2023)

[@welcometothejungl3]

We were absolutely robbed of a $300 MBS version of this. Honestly would have been happy with just a nice $40 celebration room too

[@nutfw3209]

With a set like yavin I think mbs fits it the best

[@welcometothejungl3]

@@nutfw3209 Exactly. Instead we got a dumbed down 4+ set. It just doesn’t work at this price. Too much for the casual builder and not enough for the ultimate collector

[@legohio]

Straight up robbed. 😢

[@welcometothejungl3]

@@legohio What up meme god?

[@BenMueller-ct4by]

Yeah, having his cool but let’s hope the 2024 rumor of Geonosis is a MBS with all the monsters

[@ceepally]

The 4+ UCS Set

[@randompigboi]

Except it’s not ucs or master builder it’s just a set 🤯

[@Aquaboom123]

*The 4+ Set

[@Nightwizard63]

"No no, he's got a point"

[@haydencrimmins4452]

😂

[@Thechairthatcanfold]

Ye

[@mattjohnson4802]

Would love to see a custom MOC mashup of the two sets where you combine the best featues of both for a super set

[@Mb_Drei]

Your video of the Yavin 4 base prototype remains one of my favourites, it was a high-effort, very interesting insight on a rather unknown Lego Star Wars fact. Since I wasn't that interested in this 2023 playset, this comparison is all I could've asked for, showing tons of details and how the theme as a whole has evolved since 15 years ago. It's exactly the sort of unique content that I'm subscribed for!

[@dannyiel0618]

When you make the video of combining multiple YAVIN’s together, it’ll look awesome

[@DamianDillard10]

100% mandr please do it

[@Jedi_Bob_Studios]

​@@DamianDillard10I think he is

[@DesignedAssassin]

Agreed!

[@grenem2369]

That’s a great idea!

[@dannyiel0618]

@@grenem2369 I know right, thanks :)

[@Tomreese130]

Im so happy you did this. It feels like a difference between night and day. My only question is what happened to the Lego talent from 15 years ago and why are the quality of sets declining?

[@Lukedub]

this is the most delusional opinion I've ever seen. the talent at lego only has ever been improving and really the only issues were seeing now with lego star wars is shrinkflation and weird inconsistencies that don't make the set bad as a whole, but just aren't the greatest. the old one is literally a moc, and an ugly one at that. never would lego release a set like that and if they did release a yavin 4 in 2008 it definitely would not have looked like the prototype at all. the new yavin 4 is clearly inspired by the old one, and is the best yavin 4 we could've gotten. i assure you if this set released in 2008 it would NOT have looked this good.

[@cheeseronian13q]

​​@@Lukedubwhy are you defending a soulless company again?

[@Lukedub]

@@cheeseronian13q soulless? If it was soulless we would not be getting any new ideas.

[@M4teo.]

​@@Lukedub shrinkflation? No that's not what Is going on. Products aren't "shrinking" they're just becoming More expensive.

[@Krzaczor-ym9gd]

@@M4teo. not really because we've seen a decline of size with sets that are repeating

[@SparkyForce]

I just love the look of a massive hanger with an x wing in it

[@MrMexican501]

while the 2023 version is the more visually pleasing (except the 4+ tree) the prototype does look better with size and play value, especially with the overall shape of the prototype yavin

[@DanBharry]

personally prefer the prototype. Even though its incomplete and all it feels way more like what i would want out of the Yavin 4 set than what we got.

[@trevorblack5953]

The size of the actual base itself in the prototype build is great though! Love the briefing room in particular compared to the new one.

[@lbricks7631]

Comparing the value here isn't fair, as it would have cost Lego far less to produce the 2008 model, while you had to pay inflated prices due to part rarity. Lego, however, would artificially inflate the price and the community would blame the baseplate.

[@LegoAnimalCrossing]

The thing i like about the prototype model is the layout of the set but the excecution of the new set is just amazing

[@HegeRoberto]

The price comparison is not really fair, considering you had to reproduce the model using 3rd party re-sellers for parts, that obviously sold them with a profit to you. I could easily see the old one being sold for the same price as the new one, if lego would still be creating baseplates and such.

[@aurora4xabo665]

Yea i dont know the markup or ratio that is official set, to price of its parts on the market, but it should exist, since if not why buy official sets. Also in regards to the flaws of the set, well it was a prototype, the X-wing would have been reworked and made sturdier and with the watchtower could have just added one of those thin line pieces in the middle to attach it better.

[@chriscummings4206]

I think the 2008 set wins for me. Since LEGO has access to the pieces through production, I think the suggested retail price would need to be $275.00! So many times I go to build a LEGO MOC or to complete one, I end up giving up, because, I'm shoveling out an awful lot of money for not just parts but also shipping. Although I appreciate the new set's compactedness and details. Would you ever consider trying to combine two of the 2023 sets on a large baseplate?😂

[@MaxBricksYT]

These comparison videos are always great to watch, but this 1 feels extra cool since you included your prototype! Keep up the good work Ryan

[@venividivicilgd]

If the prototype would've become an official set, I am sure it would be amazing, without breaking parts, and also you would be able to put a minifigure in the X-Wing

[@jacksnintendoshorts]

I think it would be super cool if the new set’s walls in the ceremony room could fold down to make it longer and more spacious

[@williamdeluca901]

I'm late just picked it up but it's exactly what I was thinking!

[@jon-ne7vr]

just adding a baseplate for the 2023 set would absolutely make it better 10 times

[@randomandology]

This comparison vid is a great idea. In defense of the proto type set it is kind of a place holder for a completed set. I just had way more hype and hope that a fleshed out set would have been more substantial than a 4+ set.

[@Lucas-sf6km]

4:30 how did bro leave that in? 💀

[@Alexisme.]

If the newer one had the older version’s ceremony room, i think the newer one would’ve been a 10

[@jh6031]

This was an interesting episode. Thanks for trying something different and for making the investment on the prototype build. It’s a good illustration why prototypes are conceived to begin with and how they morph into production. It’s possible that prototype was sitting around the Lego studio for much longer than a year, based on the size and the rather unwieldy build of the X-Wing. The process of bringing any product to market is lengthy and complex, although 15 years seems abnormally long. It makes me wonder if Lego holds customer clinics to better determine set popularity. In the auto business, customer clinics are keystone programs in the lead-up to a new vehicle introduction. And many things can change following a clinic, especially one in which the vehicle is not well received. Thanks for the great content, Ryan. It’s appreciated.

[@ethanlee3285]

I mean that's probably why the model was always a prototype, if the X-wing just broke apart like that there's no way kids could play with it.

[@fritz404]

I low-key prefer the original prototype 😅

[@youcanthandlemyname7393]

honestly if you made a few mods to the prototype set then it would end up being a thousand times better than the 2023 set.

[@RamielDerLinke]

The prototype is already much, much, much better than the set. We wanted a cool rebel base play set with many figures, play features, details, a lot of space that is usable. What we got was a 4+ set with practically no play features besides some stud shooters, almost no details, and it's way too small. First ever Lego Yavin 4 Rebel Base and they fucked it up big time. Can't wait for a Jedi Temple that is even worse and even more overpriced with obviously less figures. What a time to be alive.

[@mightygamerlord]

@@RamielDerLinkeomg people are overhating on the new yavin 4 set, only thing "4+" is the tree and if you take it out it looks really cool from the outside for display and i think its a pretty perfect size for a playset, because playsets are mainly ment for kids (Does not mean adults can not buy and enjoy them!!!!!) and really its rare for kids to save enough money for a more expensive/bigger set more than 200$ and rare for parents/relatives to buy something as big for them as gifts

[@RamielDerLinke]

@@mightygamerlord nah the entire thing looks like shit tbh. The interior has nothing to offer, the base has no side walls and the building techniques are as simple as it gets.

[@GradythaStudips]

9:58 It probably wouldnt of been that expensive. theres a difference from buying used parts off multiple sets than having produced parts all for 1. still an interesting vid though!

[@NickAndJoey]

Hi 😊great vid mandr I loved the “ throw the cart In there” and he literally threw it 😂

[@zacharystaats3602]

I’d love to see you buy 2 or three of the new Yavin sets and mash them together like you did with the Endor chase and trench run

[@glukkogobrrr]

Comparing these isnt fair, becase the prototype is A PROTOTYPE. Also Prize would been way cheaper, becase lego produces pieces

[@BrickStopMotionStudios]

Great video mandr. Keep up the good work

[@tobyg3061]

God I love it when Ryan uploads a new video

[@adamosborne3765]

😅 Yes sir

[@leeprice2849]

I'll wait for the Diorama set of the ceremonial presentation. Just have a feeling it's coming.

[@funkopoplord1376]

8:36 yes but the old one has the high ground 😂

[@johnwestmoreland6612]

This is one of the coolest comparisons you’ve done.

[@BrittneyAMcCubbin]

The 4+ tree makes this an outstanding set!😊

[@sebastiaan00799]

Ive been addicted to your videos lately, another banger this was, I might be in love 😳

[@legohio]

Let’s gooooooo. Been waiting for this comparison 🔥

[@f_16-f8k]

same

[@djdave30]

In the visual dictionary page 91 on the right of Yavin 4 it states that "An unreleased sketch model of the Rebel Base on Yavin 4. Designers in the LEGO Star Wars team make many product suggestions and keep all Thier sketch models,even when,as in this case with this one, there are no plans to issue them as sets

[@collectorempire_km]

When the leaks happened I was really hoping for more fleet troopers. I was also super excited but I feel like it’s super undersized. Going to wait for this to go on discount.

[@starkillerdude1914]

6:10 I just now noticed that round table is a Dish 8 x 8 Inverted (Radar) with a Dish 4 x 4 Inverted (Radar) dish on top

[@bosskproductions3462]

Prototype vs Junior Set

[@boofs1]

they should've made a gift with purchase for this where you get another set of celebration room where you get a few rebel troopers,leia, r2, c3po, han solo, and luke and have it be much more detailed.

[@sargentsquid486]

Will there be more captain rex sets

[@yozzzeh]

I think it's possible for lego to make the ceremony hall a bit longer on the official set

[@ikstudios2853]

W video big fan mandr

[@ramialkassem2566]

when will the ghost review come???

[@spaceagepenguin]

0:35 the prototype was made in 2007.

[@AndreBaguette]

The X-Wing looks great

[@Banana_Oil]

It would have been so much better if they just recycled one of the trees from the speeder bike chase

[@themasteroffear2041]

I love the new Rebel hero Luke I've always wanted to use that outfit in a stop-motion but the problem was I always wanted him without The Medallion and couldn't do that with the original minifigure but now I can

[@Felix187th]

I knew this was gonna happen, let’s go!!!

[@HegeRoberto]

I think its good we at least got a fighter that can actually fit a pilot, but I think at this price-range we should get a proper minifig-sclae fighter. Given, it is better, I expected a micro-fighter based on the rumors. What would you call this? This is not a normal minifig-scale fighter but its not a microfighter eaither. midi-scale fighter?

[@bosskproductions3462]

Hoth?

[@xfinity2121]

Not that you'll probably read this, but have you ever used your Yavin 4 base but swap everything over for the Rogue one Yavin 4 scene. So many lego figures appear in that scene, nearly all troopers, main characters plus all the extra droids, chopper, r3 m2, c3po red arm. Senator Organa, Raddus, Mon mothma, even Wedge is there somewhere as you hear his voice in it. I'm slowly doing one.

[@Wi-Fi-El]

I'd love to see someone take 3-4 of the 2023 version and make a "UCS" Yavin IV. It's a nice set but it's too small in my opinion

[@Lilpiktdude]

When I was younger I wanted massive grand sets but now I actually prefer smaller scale. My favorite biggest set is the Cantina because it’s like my “hub” just like in the games and then I like the newer smaller ships along with it like Boba Fett’s Starship

[@Nervisor23]

Honestly, I really like the Yavin 4 base. Sure, it’s 8+, but it has good minifigures, some pretty good builds and if you have the Boarding The Tantive set, you can make a small rebel army.

[@lilbubz2803]

Challenge, combine 2 of the 2023 Yavin 4 sets together to make a complete base

[@brickbros.1217]

Will you drop instructions for the prototype

[@wiwitwijayanti2442]

The moc that you build is very cool, I just suggest, you can combine those two and make a giant yavin 4 base, that would look good , again, it's just a suggestion

[@SirGrimLockSmithVIII]

Man, I know people prefer the detailed prints of newer figs, but the old figs without the twinkles in their eyes look so cute and innocent The simplicity of the older prints also had a charm to them that I personally preferred

[@swarler]

there was at least more room for imagination with less detailed prints

[@flipbriks106]

How do they get into the nest in the canon?

[@xDevilishes]

Serious question what you can do with this small y-Wing from this set if you have 75172? The 75172 or 75301 even doesnt fit trough that yavin temple lol

[@mightygamerlord]

it is really not meant like that. It would be cool for the enterance to be bigger but it doesnt have to be in my opinion

[@Owenb243]

You should buy 2 and put them back to back to create a full version of the new Yavin 4.

[@TheDarkFuryKnight]

I feel like the that could have used a base plate and could have expanded the ceremony room a bit

[@Lyokowarrior-hj8jc]

You really got to make a documentary of Legos history, or even lego star wars history, as a whole or by set or minifig history, also comparing to now. I know you can make a long banger of a documentary about all of this stuff! You could make a great one if u put your mind to it

[@gregbaird1338]

Like always excellent video you did there, Ryan. I love watching your reviews. Also, that is a really cool looking prototype. Mock up that you did. I was wondering despite the problems with the x wing. Could you possibly make available a parts list and tutorial video for that model? I think it looks cool and it's own right.😎👍

[@aurora4xabo665]

Think during his original vid on the yavin protoype he was inside that lego set design program and planned the set out, so he might still have a file of that somewhere. But yea adding that to the community would be nice.

[@mitchell428]

Does anyone have a parts list to build the prototype? Or you MandR if you see this. I have been looking for so long

[@McRick_dude]

when do we get to see the review on the HUGE crane that just came out?

[@PHM1989-z7b]

"You can put your hand anywhere" -Ryan Me: That's What She Said

[@dimbou8490]

An exclusive and unique comparison! I love to watch your creative ideais for videos!

[@cameronlahey1209]

Good comparison

[@wyattstanley6443]

Remember it’s cannon that the rebel trooper shits over the side of the nest

[@showershitter6023]

You should buy more of the new Yavin set and make a bigger one like the Death Star trench run

[@KataIIama]

I think i might buy the set when its on clearance and heavily mod it

[@starmovies5523]

I still don’t get, why they give a guy in a tower, a spear 😂

[@joubhaya4907]

The old one you did is better . But new got good things too and now we can buy something about Yavin 4 .

[@AlecFortescue]

Soul vs Soulless

[@Lamby2509]

I was literally thinking of this last night lol

[@Adelie12]

you said wedge antilles, thats captain raymus antilles from the tantive IV, hes my favorite character so I just wanted to clear that up

[@DrewZepp]

Mandr why not use the 2006 a wing pilot for the old model?

[@Darth_B]

Probably cuz he doesn’t have it

[@neilwallace1604]

The classic is what I will always picture when thinking of a yavin set cause the visual dictionary. I also rather the light tan colour so the prototype beats the new one in my opinion

[@aurora4xabo665]

Maybe the old tan color is outr of production now? ^But still yea i agree i prefered the old set tan.

[@BRICKMAKERGO]

Awesome 👍

[@ric3poversace477]

I would combine both sets if i were you to get the best of each down side

[@TurboEMT]

Yo MandR, do you have the three Star Wars mechs? I don't know how but my Walmart got them early

[@videohousejsq]

The official set looks cool, but no way. I’m not paying 170 for that.

[@AmberMarieThompson]

i think the prototype is a lot better

[@thegalacticchadpire1968]

Tbh I prefer the prototype

[@michelangelo5903]

honestly i just want the minifigs! they looks so nice and my rebel army collection is lacking!

[@Halo-burger]

Yo Ryan this is for ask m&r. This is a two parter. What do you think is better to buy lego in brickfair on piblic days or private days? The other part is what part or what day does the yardsale start?

[@neptunemacaw3354]

we need a play scalled y wing, b wing and maybe an a wing.

[@redknight6600]

Yo mandr when is your day 3 brickworld vlog coming out

[@HCKRBRO]

The new one was a bigger lost opportunity than kylo ren

[@KJOechslin1]

How does one achieve the prototype?

[@OverallStuds]

Ryan you should buy several of these and combine them

[@erikb2970]

So glad they gave Luke a better hair piece. Them trying to give him straight long hair was a travesty

[@ohno4112]

No wonder the yavin 4 stayed as a prototype until now

[@randomandology]

I think that proto type x-wing must have some helmet holes somewhere.

[@masonpittman9804]

Please review the 4000 peace Death Star

[@Broken_Legshards]

Make a mega version of the new yavin base