Lenovo Legion 9i vs Razer Blade 16 - The Easy Choice!

Razer Blade 16 vs Lenovo Legion 9i review and comparison. Hopefully this helps you pick the right one.
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[@Legitti]

My choice was Legion Pro 7i with RTX 4080 and have no regrets 🔥

[@elmoninjaking94]

I went for the same but with the infamous 4070 as there was a crazy good deal where I was, likewise no regrets, it's above and beyond what I expected (and probably need 😂)

[@anibalhuneeus]

That's the best decision, same over here. Now at 2000 bucks from B&H

[@anibalhuneeus]

@@boredsoul6949 my experience has been fantastic, but I don't play Tarkov and won't be able to give you insights on that one. Personally i feel like the 4090 is just marginally better and the price difference is substantial. Anyhows, you could look at B&H's deal for the 4090 variant (priced currently at 2.499 seems liken awesome deal)

[@Legitti]

@damianwojcikiewicz3951 Simply amazing, no throttling at all and cooling keeping temps low

[@mikerahl123]

@@elmoninjaking94 Witih all the comments I read about the 4070, I've been remarkably surprised how well the 4070 performs in my razer blade 16. I run it on an ultrawide screen (3440x1440) and it performs like a champ so far. I haven't hit much it can't handle with maxed graphics. I don't do a lot of ray tracing but when I have (Control, for example), it handles it quite well.

[@wootenblatz]

Regarding the comments on CPU temps @ 13:07, the water cooling in the Legion 9i is only on the GPU VRAM so any impact it has on CPU temps is indirect when the system temp is above 84C.

[@vietnameseloempia]

Lenovo 7i pro is the way to go in my opinion. Bought that a few months ago and very happy with it (4090 with 13900, 32 GB RAM, 2 TB SSDs). Alan Wake 2 runs totally fine on it as well:) To explain why I bought such a crazy (expensive) laptop over a desktop; it is because I move regularly and stay for a few months in a different place sometimes and I don't want to lug around a desktop every time.

[@nineflyerr3866]

Got the same laptop for $2100 before tax. Easily the best choice

[@baba-vh7hb]

i didn't know u can spec up the legion 7 pro up to an 4090 gpu, wow

[@vietnameseloempia]

@@nineflyerr3866 that's a much better price than I got for it in Europe about 5 months ago. I paid 3800 euro for it. Would be even much happier if I paid just 2100 USD too! Is yours really with 4090 as well? I got 13900 processor, 32 GB RAM and 2 TB SSDs. I noticed all 40-gen laptops were more expensive in Europe than the US when buying but not by this much.

[@pablojavier1908]

@@baba-vh7hb Yeah in the official site you can customize it. I have the same specs but with a 4080 and it's a beast

[@lincoln537]

@@nineflyerr3866 wow so cheap. Stupid EU. It is expensive af here

[@xyzdestruction]

I've been waiting for this video as soon as the legion 9i was released, thank you for finally making the comparison

[@MatthewMoniz]

You’re very welcome!

[@Bro03]

​@@MatthewMonizwhat about the battery life which has better??

[@CHEFPKR]

Just a heads up, the 4090 9i isn't really available. I ordered one in December and they promised a mid Jan delivery. Then pushed to Feb. Then March. Imo, get what you can actually get.

[@MarioGonzalez-sk2ko]

Could you please share your personal thoughts regards thermal and fan noise ? 😊

[@titan-]

How do you like it?

[@jupiteruniverse8683]

In general, the Legion 7i from 2022 was by far one of the best ever laptops Lenovo designed, in terms of design, display, performance and everything in general, minus the USB A port speeds, which do matter for many people, overall, a USB C to A dongle would do the trick. Rocked a full powered 3080Ti which in my honest and humble opinion, was and is plenty good for games these days. It has the best mix for both productivity and gaming. The Legion Pro 7 from this year was a little let down compared to that. All in all, Lenovo be making bangers each year.

[@MSR93]

i wish they have made the Legion 7 lineup more like the 2022 version. i just bought Lenovo Pro 7i 2023 with RTX4080 2 days ago and i kinda wish i have those features like the fingerprint scanner, glass touchpad, the back & Legion logo RGB. but i got it at USD2100. pretty much a steal compared to other RTX4080 laptop. overall, i'm extremely happy with it. some other features that care about is a proper number pad, non-gamery design, IO placement (at the back compared to the sides) and 180-degree lid. this stuff are rarely offered by other laptop manufacturer. i used Legion 5 before and it kinda hard switch to other brand at this point since Lenovo makes such a damn good laptop.

[@sylvainyonnet]

Two months ago I bought a Razer Blade 16. It has been a horrible experience: - Razer sent me a defective laptop. - Razer website is complete bullshit about delivery times and RMA delays. - Razer Support is the worst support ever. It's like talking to a brick wall. We've exchanged 40 messages about a simple problem (new laptop with a defective display). Everyday a different employee answers with irrelevant protocols and useless copy-paste messages. Nobody helps. - Icing on the cake, Razer Support now informs me "that the same model device is currently out of stock from our outsourcing warehouse". Conclusion: I paid 4000€ two months ago and I still have no laptop. Razer nightmare.

[@korober]

Did you solve your problem with rizer?

[@sylvainyonnet]

​@@korober Yes they sent me a laptop. But horrible experience.

[@Filya-chan]

@@sylvainyonnetit’s really sad to read.

[@JohnnyWong-r2y]

I ended up settling on the Lenovo Legion 9i. After testing an Alienware M16 (4090), Asus Strix Scar 16 (4090), Acer Predator Triton 17x (4090), Asus Zephyrus Duo 16 (4090). The only reason was because of the 3.2k miniLED screen. Also the drivers from Lenovo limits the display to 650nits (SDR) & 700nits (HDR). If you were to DDU the Lenovo Intel Drivers and install the latest from Intel, you will get the 1150nits (SDR) and 1200nits (HDR). This is why the diplsay colorspace gamut is so low. I measured 102% sRGB w/ 152% volume, 99% DCI-P3 w/ 100% volume, and 98% AdobeRGB w/ 89% volume with direct Intel's drivers. I also have two 4090 gaming desktop PC, my smallest one is on an ITX platform. Just not small enough to bring around on vacation

[@thedrifter2790]

Was updating the Intel drivers a particularly difficult task? I’m getting one soon, and I’d like to make the most of my screen!

[@gmouraangra]

i dont know how to do it neither @@thedrifter2790

[@belivmi]

would love to do the same on mine, any hint on how to proceed? thanks

[@cdkraft]

after owning three and having issues consistently with them and horrific customer service, i will never buy a Razer Blade again.

[@nuzzky]

I already have a gaming PC but I needed a laptop for my studies & business so I bought MacBook Pro M2 Pro and honestly it’s a great laptop but the only downside is lack of third party softwares. I wanted to install accounting softwares like Tally but these softwares are not available for macOS

[@andreszhoutsang9645]

Not sure in Canada, but here in Australia Lenovo has much bigger education discounts for students and teachers than Razer, right now for instance the 9i is 20% off but then the 7i and slim 7i have over 30% discount.

[@Mdot555]

Yes we do have discounts, I got maxed out 9i for $3300 after tax at the time it was first released and selling for $4200

[@manjot121183]

True Matthew, glad that atleast somebody said about Razer’s exorbitant prices. I think Lenovo & Asus are best at prices, which is why they are best sellers.

[@powerhouse884]

Razer is still selling the 30 Series laptop at a cheap price. They dont rely on the 40 series laptop sales which is why they keep them so high still. Thats their strategy and they will do it again with the 50 Series.

[@shiftto]

@@powerhouse884sounds like strategy of nvidia rather

[@maxa6430]

I bought the Legion 9 Pro, but wasn't really that impressed with the performance for the money and battery life was terrible. I ordered the Legion 7 with RTX 4090 and 32G mem for $2500 from B&H Photo for $1500 less than 9 Pro. I am very happy with the Legion 7 and glad I made the switch and saved $$

[@justabeardedguythatisahero9848]

Chadmove

[@edenassos]

No one buys a gaming laptop for battery life.

[@paleospino4956]

The Legion 7 is better? Wondering as I’m trying to get one for myself.

[@hart3113]

In the 9i, you're paying extra for the water cooling and carbon fiber design. Both are gimmicks. Buy the 7 with the same specs​@@paleospino4956

[@wm1573]

@@edenassos yeah i dont understand the people why cry about the battery life... besides there are outlets everywhere. i get if you complain the battery if it was a thinkpad or the yoga version

[@cameronbosch1213]

The problem with the Razer Blade 16 is the fact that dual sided drives don't work because the SSDs are stacked on top of one another. The Lenovo Legion 9i has the SO-DIMM RAM on the other side of the motherboard; although it comes with at least 32 GB at the base price and can go up to 64 GB, it makes the RAM harder to access for little to no consumer benefit. I honestly think if Lenovo just made the 2022 Legion 7i chassis the 2023 Legion 9i, i think it would have been an instant winner. But not in its current form with its tiny touchpad and imo worse than useless liquid cooling (because if the liquid cooler leaks, you're screwed)...

[@omarcortes5754]

samsung just launched the 990 pro single sided 4TB ssd. You could put up to 8 tb in the razer without any fitting issue.

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@omarcortes5754 Is there an 8 TB single sided drives though? (I do really like having two separate SSDs for different OS.)

[@omarcortes5754]

@@cameronbosch1213 not sure about that.

[@fidelisitor8953]

If razer made the blade 16 cheaper like for $3699, it would've been the instant winner. I'd very much prefer the classy look of the blade on my $3000+ laptop alongside it's smaller form factor and better build quality. The lenovo looks more like a $500 laptop than $3000.

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@fidelisitor8953 The problem is that the 2022 Lenovo Legion 7i was so good and they bascially threw away what worked in favor of gimmicks.

[@thisisamazingrl]

Seeing this video I'm so happy I went with Alienware for my laptop! Legion was my second choice

[@motivationaloogway]

the specs: 🛸🚀🏎️ the webcam: 🗿🦕

[@OneroomBeatz]

I have the Lenovo Legion 9 4080. I think the fans are getting triggered too quick for small tasks, specially when connected to a 4k monitor. Windows 11 also seem to be a bit slower then Windows 10. It's good for gaming but just a bit noisy that I just want to put on headphones

[@ruiyangao9255]

Hi Matthew, really awesome video! I absolutely love Lenovo Legions. At the end of the video you said that it is better to carry a small desktop PC for future upgrades. Speaking of PCs I'm wondering if you can review some prebuilt PCs. Especially in Canada I have tried building my own but parts are just so much more expensive than prebuilds. Really hope you can review some prebuilds with a good price point, such as the Lenovo Legion tower 7i gen 8. Thank you!!

[@adsonmettler3046]

Hey Matthew! I would like to reinforce the same wish as @ruiyangao9255, I would appreciate it!!

[@918DEATH]

Still got Blade 15 3070. Just changed the battery, upgraded from 16g ram to 32, upgrade nvme from 1tb to 3tb and charging 230w to 280w. I’m so happy with it. Feels like a new Laptop 😂

[@mikeh9434]

If you're using either one for productivity and gaming, then the blade 16 4090 still wins for people like me who don't want to compromise coming from a MacBook as a secondary computer. 4k ppi is still noticeably better and more pleasant to use and isn't that much of a liability unless someone really cares about competitive shooters

[@MatthewMoniz]

4K ppi vs 3k+ ppi is not noticeable at all on a 16" display.

[@mikeh9434]

For gaming yes, but after using both in person with code editors, there is still a noticeable difference. Empirically PPI of the Razer is also slightly higher than a Pro/Max series Macbook while the Lenovo's is slightly below. For most folks, I agree the Lenovo makes the most sense, but for me I wanted the absolute best possible screen. Shame that both come with compromises on the keyboard/trackpad experience. 4k screen option + better build quality on the Legion 7 pro would have been perfect Great review though! Finally someone made the comparison that we all needed

[@BunlaKour]

Razer laptops are overpriced and often provide less performance than similar or much cheaper-priced alternatives. I bought it before and I will never buy it again EVER! For coding, I can never replace a MBP with a Windows laptop even in some hardcore c# development or ML. The MBP is just superior. @@mikeh9434

[@Noble_Isaac]

Loved Matthew the first time I saw him review the Nexus 6P back in 2016. Still following him and the guy has been consistently bumping out great content.

[@zeroxinfinity5816]

Hey Matthew, great video, what about the Asus Zephyrus M16??

[@humamahmed7724]

Man.. I've searched a lot for this comparison..and yours is the best..❤ very detailed very right Thanks a lot

[@nemesis7884]

i have to agree despite being a die hard pc fan, the new black macbooks have the best chasis i have seen yet

[@MatthewMoniz]

Ya it’s really nice

[@fidelisitor8953]

The blade is close though.

[@EmilioFigueroa]

Just started the video, but this was exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!🙏

[@MatthewMoniz]

You’re very welcome!

[@EmilioFigueroa]

@@MatthewMoniz Regarding the battery life for the Legion 9i, one has to wonder why Lenovo hasn't put in some configuration to stretch out the battery life to 6-7 hours. With the 99.99 Wh battery in there, the idle power draw must be close to 50 for it to be that bad. Have you messed around at all with the settings to try and lower the idle usage?

[@VikVaughan]

@@EmilioFigueroa My Legion 9i is drawing 37W as I type this with Word, Acrobat, and several dozen browser windows open with no video playing, in quiet mode, about 60% brightness, while driving an external monitor with dGPU on. Unplugging the external monitor and turning off the dGPU brings it down to around 21W. So you should be able to get a comfortable 4+ hours with light usage.

[@eduardopariona430]

@@EmilioFigueroacreo que la gran culpable de ese consumo es la pantalla mini-led

[@FoxxFire]

Both made such annoying choices....too many to list. How a $4k+ Intel laptop has only one TB port and two slower usb c ports is unforgivable, not to mention the horrendous keyboard on that machine (the Razer, of course). The Lenovo, that keyboard being shifted down for water cooling a gpu that NEVER THROTTLES ON ANY LAPTOP is a ridiculous choice. Heck, if you want to water cool something, how about trying to tame that darn Intel processor since that chip is nearly impossible to stop from throttling in a laptop. And I completely agree about the resolutions; a native 1600p mini LED display at 240hz would have been an outstanding option. Anyway, I'm just overly complaining :) It's just, the Razer has so much potential. So many of us would pay the price for the machine if the keyboard was better and the ports were better. I dislike the trunk on the Lenovo, and let's face it, Razer's build quality and smaller footprint for the same screen size is worth the extra money (particularly since you are not losing performance...Razer's cooling is just as good as Lenovo's, despite the smaller footprint). Anyway, I'll just throw out how much I appreciate these videos, Moniz. They are entertaining and informative. Have a great weekend.

[@cameronbosch1213]

Try the Acer Predator Helios 16; that has a 2560x1600 250 hz Mini LED screen and two USB4 / Thunderbolt 4 ports as well as pretty good cooling. (The fans are loud when maxed out, but given it can be controlled via PredatorSense, I'm not too upset about that.) Seriously, I'm shocked that Acer has not sent out the Predator Helios laptops with the Mini LED screen this year; they're really good. They do top out with "only" a RTX 4080, but that's probably the sweet spot in terms of price to performance, given the Predators seem to get around 145 - 150 watts of power without dynamic boost. The only problem is battery life appears to be bad, but that's going to be a given with Intel HX CPUs and a Mini LED screen.

[@fidelisitor8953]

@@cameronbosch1213 But the acer doesn't have the build quality or nicer look of the blade 16.

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@fidelisitor8953 Still, I got one with an Nvidia RTX 4080, an Intel Core i9-13900HX, the mentioned Mini LED Screen, and dual SSD slots that can support dual-sided SSDs for almost half the price. Kind of makes you wonder...

[@theyeetus1428]

How on earth did you manage to strip Torx screws lol???

[@WhiskyCardinalWes]

Ouch! Long time Lenovo user, big time user of Razers as well (currently have a Lenovo Legion 5 and a Razer Blade Pro 17 on my desk that I daily drive both). Having to choose between the two you have in front of you is asking a parent which child is their favorite...

[@ooharloo]

its 2024 and both the OLED blade 16 and the 9i in similar spec are the very very close in price... which would you choose?

[@Parky-pm2sg]

Hi Matthew would you please do a more in depth review of the Acer Predator Triton 17x please as there are currently no in depth reviews of this laptop and it seems like one of the best laptops of the year just no reviews of it as of yet please do a major in depth review of this 17 inch laptop dude it also can be configured with a 250hz mini LED option.

[@ThinLineMedia]

I just bought it, the laptop is heavy and the charger too 😂

[@VikVaughan]

There are some reports that the triton 17x has quite a bit of throttling and poor performance relative to its specs, and Acer doesn't seem to be letting people review it with benchmarks. I've also heard there are issues with the mini LED with excessive blooming etc. The price is also absurd.

[@ThinLineMedia]

@@VikVaughan I got it for a very good price, but yeah original price is a bit high. Where did you see the reports ? I would like to see those... Well, anybody can review it who actually bought it. All laptops throttle, I don't know a laptop that doesn't. I did some heavy tasks and GPU stayed at normal temperature 45 - 50 C. It has a very good cooling chassy compared to other cheaper laptops.

[@VikVaughan]

@@ThinLineMedia Don't get me wrong, it looks like a beautiful machine. Search for the written review by LaptopMedia. They say " its RTX 4090 (175W) doesn’t really run at 175W - more like 140W. And second - it performs more like an RTX 4080 (175W) - the one we saw in the Lenovo Legion Pro 7 (16″, 2023)." Notebookcheck has some links to some other reviews that might be useful.

[@Parky-pm2sg]

@@ThinLineMediahey dude would you be able to review the Acer predator triton 17x on your channel at all if possible? That would be amazing! Also, if you could go in depth detail with your review!

[@omarcortes5754]

Both are great laptops and both are expensive as f***, but the ram placement of the 9i is kind of a deal breaker for me.

[@cameronbosch1213]

Yeah, I don't see why they did it; even if it was required for the liquid cooler, that liquid cooler was pretty much just marketing BS. I would personally look elsewhere; 2023 Legions seem to fall far from the highs of the 2022 models...

[@VikVaughan]

Trick is to just throw 64GB in when you order and never think about it again.

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@VikVaughan The problem is that it costs more money to do when 2 32 GB sticks can cost users a lot less...

[@VikVaughan]

@@cameronbosch1213 Lenovo doesn't play the Dell game with inflated memory upgrade prices though. The cost to upgrade the base 32GB (2x16) up to 64GB (2x32) on the Lenovo site is only $85 US.

[@jimmyrichards5595]

For me the dealbreaker on the 9i is the keyboard placement.

[@marcelacantalice2529]

Please make a video recommending laptops that are not expensive for a student that will start a computer science major

[@elijah_m]

U said the razor is better at gaming than the legion but ur charts show different, maybe I missed something 🤔

[@musicman9624]

Thanks Matthew, I just ordered the 9i. Can't wait for delivery.

[@MatthewMoniz]

You’re welcome!! Let me know how you like it

[@titan-]

How have you been liking it?

[@musicman9624]

@@titan- It's a really great laptop that captivated me with its design and capabilities. It can handle demanding games without any problems, but since I have the Rog Ally X, I no longer play them on it and I use it for Davinci Resolve, Canva and some everyday activities. The display does a good job, I don't use external sources. I have the 2023 versions and now in the 2024 versions, these models have a 14th generation processor with AI support.

[@bryans8656]

I agree with your reasoning: build yourself a PC and buy something more affordable to carry around. Wise counsel. I was all in on the Lenovo, but two down firing speakers vs. four up firing on the Razor? Better bring headphones.

[@abdulsadiq8873]

The Lenovo sticker guy was on a vision quest to find himself after the trauma of the sticker wars

[@MatthewMoniz]

Haha

[@XinruiZheng-x2j]

useful compare thank you , but i think razer blade 16 is a better choice rightnow since the similar price between i9 and blade16

[@Gizzmo41]

I’d like to see Lenovo, give you more storage options, for me 2TB is not enough, sure I could buy the SSD, pop the laptop open install etc. But it would be nice to configure when buying and save me the hassle. I haven’t found any third party businesses that carry the Legion, who can perform hardware upgrading.

[@adsonmettler3046]

Hey Matthew, I'm wondering if you can review some prebuilt PCs for content creators. Thank you!

[@jonathantheyorkie]

I went with the legion 7 2022. It was the perfect mix of premium and cost effectiveness for being under 4 grand. I don't know why Lenovo hasn't made a 2024 version of this. The 2024 legion 7 doesn't count. They should revive the slim brand because the 2024 legion 7 is technically a slim 7 since there is no ethernet and ethernet should be considered essential like HDMI. The legion 9 is great except foe the high cost and the high difficulty of replacing the ram memory since the motherboard is inverted.

[@taylorp3685]

I feel like the legion pro 7 with the 7945hx isn’t talked about enough. Over two generations of intel processors could barely keep up and beat it… the intel 13 gen was trailing behind and the 14 gen just barely passed it and not in all cases. Even when under load, the 7945hx sustains full performance where the intel throttles.

[@jimfitzgerald2289]

Honestly, back in 2021 I wish I searched for gaming laptops much smarter. I spent $1600 on a Razer and right now I figured out I could've gotten a Lenovo for like $1000 for the same specs.

[@Watchandlearn91]

I just have a Macbook Air M2 for general productivity and work and a desktop workstation for anything heavy (that I ssh into). For mobile gaming, I bought a cheap Acer Nitro last year for Black Friday that works just fine and plays most games on medium/low settings at 60fps + and older games at 120hz.

[@owlface2365]

Really useful video, thank you very much.

[@leledumbo]

Razer needs to up their webcam game. C'mon, their laptops are priced like MacBooks, but their webcam is like potato. Lenovo, HP and Dell have way better webcam.

[@Nogardtist]

knowing razer quality control lenovo legion should last minimum 5 years and razer would probably have battery bloat problem

[@J-qp3mv]

Lenovo webcam and mic are way better quality than the razor

[@MatthewMoniz]

Ya it is

[@namesis3137]

@@MatthewMonizdefinitely I noticed too

[@erikpatakcreative]

The 2023 Blade 16 model's mini LED is terrible for content creation. I'd avoid it, at least with the 2023 model. The lack of local dimming option causes crazy light bleed and ghosting around high contrast areas. Pretty much unusable for graphic design, photo editing, 3D work. Not sure what the Legion has, but I'm considering selling my Blade 16 to go with an alternative.

[@apokalypz08]

would like you to revisit the performance graphs with the 14900hx versions

[@TuanMinh-sv2gq]

You know, I'd still go for the razer because it looks 600 dollars better. I'd be enjoying it 2x as much because of that. And since I tend to use my laptops around 5 years, its totally worth it for me

[@davidcollins465]

Who is using cabled mice in 2024? I use the Logitech G305 wireless mouse. Personally the best and all be it the only wireless mouse I've used and I love it.

[@ssaini5028]

The only man reviewing top end Laptops regularly, kudos!

[@fidelisitor8953]

There's also Jarrods tech too.

[@peterc6559]

Razer’s look and premium feel alone will win this any day of the week. People in the comment saying they chose lenovo is because they couldn’t afford the Razer premium. Whats the point of having a 4090 i9 decked out machine in a plastic chassis that looks like an acer from walmart

[@kmdkmd-jz8pv]

The legion is a full metal body, zero plastic.

[@kmdkmd-jz8pv]

@@hugoramallo1980 I’ve had both of them and the razer feels more premium. Don’t get me wrong the 9i is nice but the blade is on another level.

[@kmdkmd-jz8pv]

@@hugoramallo1980 ​​⁠yeah I get yeah. I kept the blade because I liked the lower fan noise and the oled screen. The legion ran cooler but it’s also noisy since it has the intakes at the top and makes it sound like the fans are facing you. My legion had a couple build issues that soured me a bit. If it was not because of the issues I probably would have kept it. The extra resolution was nice but I don’t like the way mini led is for fast paced games. It gives a smearing effect in high contrast scenes.

[@dathunderman4]

This is true for people who intend to use the Razer as their main, all-purpose laptop. Personally, I already have my MacBook Pro m1 that I use as my main for work and school. I prefer that over any gaming laptop. I mainly want a gaming laptop because I’m going to be moving around quite a bit and I won’t have a primary residence for the next few years; I want a gaming PC but it’s going to be really difficult carrying that around whenever I have to move places since I can usually only have one carryon bag and a backpack with me. So I’m electing for a gaming laptop, which I’ll use for gaming only, essentially. Razer definitely looks cooler to me and I’d certainly get it if I didn’t have my MacBook, but for my purposes I think Legion would be better

[@jamie3810]

Tried a Blade a few days ago, the Keyboard is disappointing, as a company thats known for Keyboards you would expect it's keyboard on its flagship product to be if not something reinventing or extraordinary but at least decently comparable to other products of a similar price point. It's like if Ferrari put rubber steering wheel from a F-150 in it's top model with the pedals from a 20 year old VW bug.

[@roalwinner138]

Razer is significantly smaller, it is strange that this was not taken into account when comparing laptops. When you're buying a $5,000 laptop, 10% of the price doesn't mean much. Size matters.

[@prainmantis]

The machined chassis is not cheap to produce and it is a premium looking product as well. Very similar as to why people will go with apple versus samsung/google/oneplus etc.

[@legendarymuffin6414]

plaining to use buy the legion 9i, is it possible to test it connected to odyssey g9?

[@MatthewMoniz]

I dont have a G9 but it should work just fine!

[@legendarymuffin6414]

@@MatthewMoniz for gaming?

[@nj_mlimi]

Please colour your benchmark graphs, Your content is great so it's not like I can watch a different channel. \

[@mortalkombatfight-clubsofi9637]

My choice of Laptop is: Asus ROG Strix G17 G713PI / RTX 4070 and ryzen 7945HX CPU Its not the most powerfull, not the best & highest quality laptop, but it gets the job done! Its amazing. The one i got, was brand new with a 2 tb ssd and a 32gb 5200 mHz ram - for 1,600 EUR Compared to my old ryzen 5 3600 and a gtx 1070 GPU desktop - its quite a bit faster lol :D

[@eshnd-1]

Bought a Zephyrus 16 4090 for 700-1200 dollars less than both of these, no regrets, amazing machine.

[@MatthewMoniz]

Ya that’s a solid option for sure.

[@Clarity520]

Jesus christ gaming laptops have become expensive over the years. I remember shopping for them 5 years ago and for $2500 it was already considered top of the line gaming laptop. And now we are talking $4000? Damn.

[@Okamine]

Part of it is inflation + Nvidia tax 😂

[@loganjackson3892]

As a lenovo fan razer blade is a better built product and has better accessories available for them vs lenovo. Software is simple and easy to use with the razer blade. The cooling system is really good. You can upgrade the thermal pads on the razer blade and the thermal paste then undervolt it to fix the cpu. The oled screen is better on the razer hands down for color. Charger is built better as well as the port. Usb ports on the back of a laptop are hard to use and nonsenes. Lay in bed with those cords plugged in or sit on the couch its hard to see whats plugged in and easy to break a usb port. Out of reach on a work desk as well vs the side being available. Speakers are the best u will find in a windows laptop. The Blade does come in the color mercury as well. Also we are comparing two different cpus here id like to see the 14 inch ryzen 9 razor laptop go toe to toe with the lenovo 9i ryzen 9.

[@loganjackson3892]

@@hugoramallo1980 u apparently don’t know what clone means. They use the same bezel design genius. It does not have a m3 pro chip. Also has a vapor chamber which Mac book doesn’t. It has its own design.

[@loganjackson3892]

@@hugoramallo1980 oleds do not burn that would be plasma’s. They can come from the factory that way or u have bright sunlight hitting your screen all day. Oleds are way faster than any ips panel is. 0.03ms vs 1ms

[@RetroChibii]

HELP, where can i download the laptops wallpaper in 4k?

[@ste4lth147]

The biggest reason I hate that I'm getting the Legion 9i is the speakers. I love great speakers, like the Apple M3 speakers OHH MY! So pretty disappointed with only 2 downward speakers, that just feels very disappointing for spending $4600!!! Luckily I got down to 3200 because of military and few other things! But still just damn!

[@alexlionheart5385]

The tables have turned as the 9i is more expensive than the Razer at same specs. Still leaning towards the Razer :D

[@Legend_God6969]

at 4:00 u can rally see the fingerprints at the legion

[@purpzzzy]

4k is NOT overkill. PPI matters for developers and media consumption

[@wynzavian2000]

The Blade 16 only has 1 thunderbolt & USB-C port, not three.

[@03blkss]

Patiently waiting for my Legion 9i

[@MatthewMoniz]

Nice let me know how you like it when you get it in !

[@03blkss]

@@MatthewMoniz I should be receiving it before Thanksgiving! Cool that you replied to my comment and thanks for your awesome reviews/content! 👍

[@Vile_Miscreant]

Same, it's been a week, and they still haven't shipped it yet. So sadly, I probably won't get it in by Thanksgiving.

[@03blkss]

@@Vile_Miscreant when I ordered last week it said it would be delivered on the 23rd. Still hopeful 🤞

[@Mdot555]

which ram did you order?

[@nikkibaby111309]

I got the razer 16 4090 for 2500 at micro center open boxed brand new condition idk why it was that low but its amazing

[@charloyt6164]

Off topic but I got a Hp Omen 16 16gb ram 1tb and a 4060 Core i7 14th gen 240hz Its so gooood

[@TheSonoranSniper]

technology seems to be getting better but neither of these are optimized enough

[@mistake0101]

Face id, looks way more timeless especially the keyboard(i hate how lenovo keyboard looks), materials, 2 resolutions, i, personally, prefer usb's on the sides, cause it gives u an easy access, 4 speakers - is it all not worth 600 for a brand new laptop? that ur buying for years. num pad is needed for trainers in games yes. but its not worth it keeping on your laptop. u can reprogramm other buttons for that if u really need it. i own blade pro 17 and steaalth 13 1650. i absolutely agree about the keyboard sucking for gaming - its horrible. btw the stealth's keyboard is way better. i will get myself a blade 18 or 16 in 5 years maybe once it gets reasonable. for now my old rtx 2080 and stealth are fine.

[@RojsaCom]

Thank you for comparing them. They are both excellent gaming laptops 🌷🌷🌷

[@MatthewMoniz]

Yes they are! Thank you for watching

[@RojsaCom]

@@MatthewMoniz You're welcome!

[@gvido2923]

i would disagree that they are any way better than Legion 7i with RTX 4090 ! i am using it for 2 months now and these doesnt perform better at all it's all marketing BS! especially I9 Lenovo cost 1500 EUR more but it is same 7I with watercooling anda minor changes in design. and BTW i get lower temps with my tweaks than I9 lol

[@lb2791]

I would be much more confident in the legion actually working, plus if it doesn't customer service will actually help me out. This alone makes the decision easy. It's a theoretical one though, I would never buy such overpriced machines.

[@rahulseju8882]

Hi Matthew, If possible please check out Lenovo LOQ series

[@69sound81]

Well, Razer is still Razer my friend. Yeah, 600 usd is a lot more for not much more value or convenience, but the argument can be made. I see it like comparing an ACER Predator to an ASUS or MSI equivalent. It might be spec3d out exactly the same in terms of CPU, GPU, RAM, storage and expansion ability, but ACER ain't up there and the price reflects it. Razer Blade is the benchmark of the gaming laptop industry along with Alienware products. Legion is good, but it aint the benchmark and that impacts the prize. Now, if Razer had included the same 13989 cpu and maybe some extra stuff like a hard case, a headset or any other thing. Or if the price difference was around 300 to 400 usd it would be just right to ask that for the brand, build, audio and trackpad. Razer is the gaming laptop for wealty profesionals. Just like ASUS TUF is the one for not do wealthy profesionals. They just look clean, are convenient, are greatly built and offer the best out there in their category.

[@alain86]

Funny how all of these pc review guys always come to the conclusion that the best option is a “cheap little pc” while they have monster pcs at their studios.

[@BooredAtWork]

Nice!

[@ahmeds606]

Lenovo legion 5i slim , i7 13700H, 32 GB ram , 1 tb ssd and rtx4070 , qhd 240 hz

[@cs9026]

I wish I had seen the temperature comparison in games

[@mauriciomn6970]

in terms of price and components lenovo wins, but razer desing is amazing!

[@avishkamanorathne4449]

Legion is way better built quality, cooling, performance . Razer way more expensive and heat my whole room when i play games.

[@TrusteftTech]

07:32 "there is a lot of room to move your fingers around" Really hard to not say anything. As for which I would prefer, Lenovo. All the products I ever bought from Razer (3) died on me way too soon. I don't trust them to buy anything from them. Especially something as expensive as this. BUT, not only I don't trust liquid cooling in a computer, more so in a laptop, if it performs so badly (temps wise) WITH watercooling, how the frell am I supposed to trust the rest of the laptop, this particular model I mean. I would rather have one of the many other Lenovo laptops, or perhaps an XMG laptop. Thanks for the informative and funny video. :)

[@Filya-chan]

I’m still shocked how bad their webcams are. These are too expensive to justify it.

[@optimaforever]

Funny. Here in Europe the Legion 9i is more expensive than the Blade 16 2024 with the same specs...

[@spencermallory9229]

I got blade 16 1100 of new from Best Buy pretty awesome compared to my ASUS m16 zephyrus

[@Achilles287]

My Choice is Lenovo Legion 9i rtx 4090 32gb ram 2tb ssd

[@typerightseesight]

are they ever gunna make big boy stuff for an affordable pricetag? just cuz im 35 and over 6 feet tall doesnt mean that i should have to pay $5k for a my size laptop. lol. You gotta be 4'11' to operate one of these. lol. or 5'6" but you get the point.

[@miscwork-qb7pd]

If you're looking at price when buying these, it's just completely wrong, save 1500$ and get a 4080 laptop instead. The people who would buy these are NOT price sensitive

[@MatthewMoniz]

I get that but the video is about the two best laptops :P but yes if we are talking about better value then a 4080 would be a good option

[@VikVaughan]

I bought a Legion 9i, and I care about price. I researched the hell out of the pricing, the sales, the deals available, and waited till the right time to buy. While I'm willing to pay a premium for nice-to-have features, I'm still comparing similar products with each other to see what makes more sense. I ruled out Razer because the price was excessive relative to the features next to the 9i.

[@miscwork-qb7pd]

@@VikVaughan Fair enough. Hope you'll enjoy your laptop

[@Mdot555]

@@VikVaughanafter discounts Lenovo offers 9i with faster ram is almost 1k cheaper then blade. no brianer here

[@VikVaughan]

@@Mdot555 Yes, Lenovo's "Est Value" list price is much higher than anyone pays. Razer on the other hand offers very few deals. Something to keep in mind when comparing systems. The "discount" on my 9i was over $1k.

[@incognito7843]

Lenovo has a numpad and therefore a decentered keyboard, no buy. The left palm will rest umcomfortally half outside the palmrest on the edge of the laptop, and not on the palmrest, so basically you can't use the keyboard for gaming since that left hand is locked at the w-a-s-d-keys. So in my eyes, it is not even a gaming laptop. And you can't sit comfortably with the laptop in your lap when needed because of the decentered keyboard, which disqualifies it for work on the move... Frankly I don't see a use case for the Lenovo....

[@LuIbasaur]

If only the keyboard wasn’t so close to the edge and the trackpad so tiny.

[@xmaverickhunterkx]

I wish they'd stop putting 10 keys in laptops. Or make it an option.

[@walpt]

I feel so much do spend that kind of money with out a 4k screen, prefferencialy a touch one.

[@Alonso_The_GOAT]

4K touchscreens are only 60hz and no one will buy a 4k60 screen in a gaming laptop

[@wantsomecoffe]

Lenovo and Razer Got To start making laptops with usbC only, lets get this train going. usbA is OUT. come on, were in 2024 smhhhh

[@ooharloo]

I watch for the sticker reviews. Thank you!

[@craigm7240]

No mention of the seizure inducing PWM flicker on the Lenovo display, plus the dumb excuses this guy was making for the 9i in general. "well guys the Razer has better thermals but a hotter laptop is better so 9i wins again!" 🙄

[@rangerrr664]

Definitely want the 9i just don’t go the money 😢

[@iversonschemarsougrain4267]

Lenovo Camera and audio quality is waaayyyy better

[@dakotaconcepcion5398]

Blade 16 4080 mini led or g14 4090 mini led recommendation ? Thanks for any help and info

[@fidelisitor8953]

Do you need a big screen or a small screen? Is long battery life a necessity? Do you care about design and build quality? Is portability a factor These are the questions that will help us recommend either one of them to you. For screen size, I personally would go for the blade 16 as 14 inches is too small for me, especially while gaming or coding. If you absolutely need good runtimes off the wall then get the g14 as it'll net you longer battery life (though the blade's battery isn't terrible if you can manage). If you fancy looks and build then go for the blade as it looks nicer and also has better build quality. Finally, if you want the more portable option, then the g14's the only way to fly.

[@dakotaconcepcion5398]

For military work portability is a big factor plus traveling but I do like the build quality on razers and how sturdy they feel just wasn’t sure if the 4090 g14 would heat up worse than the blade I guess I’m more worried about longevity of either one. But important factors are being able to run games and future proof and also last for the years to come without breaking and also be portable and battery life be decent