Lenovo Legion Go: What worked (and what didn't)

[@johnpaper281]

I have a legion go. Its a steep learning curve. Once I have it all figured out I will be happy. Until then I envy the simplicity of steam deck.

[@samjack16]

Camera doesn't do justice to the size of these devices... These are huge...

[@MrOdaddy2011]

That's what she said

[@HekaWaset]

I'm an early steam deck adapter. When the Ally came out, I got it as well and my game time went divided between Deck and Ally. Then the Go released and I went and got that as well. After a bumby first month, I stopped using the Ally and ended up selling it. My use of the Deck has been reduced significantly as well, but I can't bring myself to sell it. The Legion Go is beast. It performs far better than the Ally and any other device with the same specs. Apart performance though, the many use-cases the Go makes possible through clever hardware design and thoughtful features cannot be matched by any device of the current handheld generation. What for me personally has been the best thing though is the way Lenovo supports the device and communicates with the userbase with total transparency and consistency. I am really excited to see what new devices will come out from the likes of Alienware, Msi etc, because they will all throw their hats in this ring, no doubt. Still, the Lenovo customer support will be the bar to meet with new handheld pcs coming out in 2024. PS. Nice vid, but you are using the power profiles less than optimally, its not supposed to be set that way when away from the wall. Regardless, the update that came out yesterday has new things like custom fan curves and other tweaks that will further optimize performance on the Go.

[@MobileDecay]

I don't get the complaint that a Windows handheld has Windows on it. I've never seen anyone buy a Windows laptop and then use the fact that it has Windows on it as a negative. 🤷‍♂

[@jfitnesshealth]

All I want is for windows to make handheld mode or something you can do on the fly. Plus it helps them since you can use windows store .

[@MobileDecay]

@@jfitnesshealth I agree.

[@danavidal8774]

Obviously it has to do with being a handheld, duh But it can apply slightly to small laptops, specially budget ones, Windows not only doesn't have handheld UI like Steam OS and ChimeraOS, Windows is by far more resource heavy so you get less battery and performance Also Windows is always sending data about you to their servers and you can't tweak as much That is one of the reasons why at 11 Watts or less the Steam Deck performs better than Asus ROG Ally when using Windows

[@kingrhoam93]

Think about it this way: imagine giving your 4 year old brother a steam deck. How much do you think it would take him to set it up and get playing? For us experienced folk it's easy, but it won't appeal to the masses if it doesn't simplify it's UI. My son is pretty tech educated and gave up on trying to play an emulator game on my Ally, then picked up his switch and fired up SNES online in seconds.

[@StuieHunter]

Windows is a selling point for me on a device like this. I love my steam deck, but when I'm wasting hours on it trying to make things work that happen with ease on my laptop......I miss Windows.

[@tessjdt]

I ordered one even though I have had the Steam deck since launch. My reason to buy the LeGo (l love this abbreviation lol) is to replace an aging gaming laptop I had, flexibility to use it as a tablet, and give me the Windows gaming experience for Gamepass and games that just do not work with SteamOS. I know battery is a concern for most, but having my Steamdeck since launch (Q2) I rarely get more than 2 hours of battery and find myself already tethered to a plug anyway. So much so I have plugs in my bedroom and living room so I don't have to carry one around with me. Maybe the OLED gets better battery life, but these gaming devices are not Nintendo Switches and battery is going to be poor in general. Yes, you can tweak TDP but I have tried that and rarely does it give me what I have seen others report. Though, I do use TDP on my Steamdeck to help control fan noise to keep my wife from complaining while we are out together gaming. Mine should be here in a day or two and I am excited! Great video BTW. Really enjoy your content.

[@movedbiscuit1332]

Can you play with 4 people on legion go using ps5 controller (co-op not online)

[@JoJoHartt]

I bought the Lenovo legion go specifically to be used as a portable computer.

[@symphonymelody9235]

And? How was your experience?

[@pixeled-]

Loved this Legion Go review, thanks for all the effort you put in! For me it hit right balance between hip and stylized yet still down to earth, making it very easy to consume the info. Keep it up! :)

[@dame666999]

What a fantastic machine if you know or take the time to learn from research how to get the best out of it. Google lossless scaling and any game can be played on it, I even play ps5 games on it so I don’t need to move my ps5 around the house.

[@mqaisataloss.5951]

Mine is a crpg monster. 50 degrees and really quiet while rocking that sweet sweet pathfinder wotr ❤ And a big enough screen to read the tekst in those types of games 😂 Something my former steamdeck sorely lacked. And ofcourse for All the games that don't natively support controllers etc the touch pad is a life saver 🎉

[@danavidal8774]

Tip: put OS power mode to efficiency so you get more hours with same performance The CPU doesn't need to be maxed out, even less with a iGPU where you will likely be playing at 30 fps for new AAA games and 60 for games from the PS4/Xbox One gen (only indies or even older games which can run on potatoes CPUs will make use of all Hz from the screen)

[@movedbiscuit1332]

Can you play with 4 people on legion go using ps5 controller (co-op not online)

[@Rr-j4x]

the software is glitchy on go. lock screen wallpaper doesnt show sometimes. i couldnt feel the 144hz screen, the delay on opening apps and slow downs on a gaming device isnt acceptable to me. also i dont like the fact that controllers doesnt work to navigate the screen and apps. it only work on some instances. shouldve had pop up camera, hdr support and finger scanner.

[@CJTheTokay]

Didn’t Lenovo add fan curves so you can change the noise levels of the legion go?

[@ItsRekxn]

Yea there's an option to turn full fan speed on or off

[@williamg7138]

​@@ItsRekxnno, he means actual fan curves, not an on/off switch

[@ItsRekxn]

@@williamg7138 my bad

[@0thers1d3]

There's no complaints... it's a phenomenal device.

[@moroccanwonders6234]

Thanks for your video...I own one LLG .... great portable gaming pc and it's a beast in all kind of emulations .😊

[@abstrktionLair]

does anybody know what that low profile ergo keyboard is? the one Joshua's using while demonstrating the mouse mode of the right controller

[@jamesfbowes]

Would to know as well. Maybe Logitech?

[@malr7512]

Protoarc ergonomic foldable keyboard xk03 ultra slim tracel

[@abstrktionLair]

@@malr7512 not all heroes wear capes, thank you 🙏🏼

[@movedbiscuit1332]

@@jamesfbowes Can you play with 4 people on legion go using ps5 controller (co-op not online)

[@MRtacoma22]

Do not use it laying flat like it is at 1:19, you will starve the PC of proper air flow and cause it to shut down.

[@sunrisesunset1734]

This is a deal-breaker for people who love fighting games. Lenovo better bring out a left Joycon with a proper d-pad for fighting games, and they might as well bundle it with a right Joycon with 6 face buttons. Fighting games: Soul Calibur, Street Fighter, Killer Instinct, Mortal Kombat, King of Fighters, Guilty Gear, Samurai Showdown, Tekken, Dragon Ball Z, just to name a few!

[@Cerealkiller824]

Could use some advice, so ive been in the market for a new handheld besides my steam deck. I take my laptop to school but its big and kinda wanted a surface pro and just take my steam deck but wanted something stringer like a legion go. But then I see the perfect handheld for me, checks all the boxes, 3 in 1 10.95 ltps LCD screen, tablet, laptop, HANDHELD! its the OnexPlayer X1. So I backed it right away and was excited to hear its got intels new chip that's also in the MSI Claw that's competing with the Ally, but now I hear the performance isn't so great and with its current beta drivers cant beat a z1 extreme/7840u in gaming. So now idk what I what to do, keep or cancel, i was just expecting it to be z1 extreme level and if it just needs time for drivers to get it there then id be happy with it and keep it, but if its the performance is less than that even after numerous driver updates id probably cancel and just wait on ultras second gen or just stick amd but I rather just keep it because I think its a really cool device I just want it to preform as well as a z1 extreme after updates, I would really miss the 3 in 1 form factor and mainly the handheld mode that drew me to the X1 and I don't want something else like the flow z13 or id just take my gaming laptop instead. Other guys in the discord just say hold the pre order and its the stronger chip but wait for drivers to get better, that by the time Claws out Intel will be pushing drivers out. So I guess my real question is do you think the 155 ultra will get better drivers and be able to actual compete with the z1 extreme? am I always going to be 10-15 frames behind a z1 extreme? Thats based on a couple vids I did find.

[@squalley]

5:25 and after 2 hours of gaming, a break would be needed for not only yourself but also for the device itself

[@mcdan20]

Would you prefer the go over the ally or the ally over the go?

[@nuncsako]

What is this keyboard at 7:22? :O I would like to buy!

[@nuncsako]

I have found it: ProtoArc® XK03 Foldable Ergonomic Keyboard

[@Pavel-gn5yp]

Integer scaling?

[@GetERekted]

The Deck not being able to run multiplayer games is a big NO for me.

[@cadenchurchill4296]

Really love these format videos you do! Keep up the great work!

[@moongurd20]

I got a steam deck but i eventually sold it, I never used it and it made me use my switch more handheld or stationary on a table and picking off the joycons. So this Legion go made me a bit curious but the pricetag is what's keeping me away from it. Nice review btw!

[@jackykwan2580]

The Z1 extreme chip is not powerful enough to utilize the full screen resolution, however there is and fluid motion frames and fsr3 to help with better quality visual and fps which is not yet released on handheld pc. At current state, this chip is not strong enough and you will have to sacrifice fps for more quality visual. If you are ok with playing around 30-40fps on triple A games then you are good.

[@seppeseppe-jq7nr]

Looking at this guy and talking about d-pad ... Epic ... This d-pad is perfect dude!!! Talk end ....

[@sygfx]

there is always a fellow who just point out the odds in a product assuming that its very easy to come up devices like this for a known company. tin this video there are more cons as compared to pros.

[@Luke-qs2cg]

They keep using ips when 1080p oled is cheaper both in terms of power usage and overall at scale. It's time for lcd to go away, especially for handheld devices where every watt matters. Imagine the energy draw of the backlight alone in this system

[@jk3jk35]

Probably trying to impress the hardcore customers with that too high resolution number

[@DryLunchTV]

Companies wont put alk eggs in 1 basket, to make as much money from us as possible.. so we buy the next upgrade and then the next and then the next...

[@DDosAndDonts]

legion go 2 has OLED

[@theimmortalfenix7859]

Does custom tdp work for anyone? because I don't like it, I impose it e.g. 5W and the performance remains unchanged as does the remaining battery time.

[@fullweezy3553]

Either some of yall are capping or it some high rollers watching this video how you got a steam deck a ally and the legion go. Do yall not have bills 😂

[@namrepmek]

Screen is beautiful, controllers fit nicely in the hand. Speakers are rubbish (FxSound helps). Overall, just a bit on the bulky side for me-solid and grabbed an ASUS ROG Ally, ticks all my boxes and really love it. At this point, just depends on use case and personal preferences.

[@MrGlennFrank]

I'll check out FxSound thanks for the recommendation. Planning on using earbuds for the most part but nice to have options.

[@brightya]

This video does not make sense. All the didn'ts happened to all other handheld PCs. The only didn't to me is the speaker quality and the weight. The weight is the only deal breaker to me. I am still getting used to it. Other than that Legion go is actually doing better than other handhelds PC. The build quality, thumbsticks, the screen, the battery life, the temp control, the drive storage are all better than the ROG Ally. The touchpad and the scroll behind the right controller provide almost the best solution to navigate throgh the awkward operating system than all other handheld PCs. Unless you compare it to the NS, then NS is the best handheld gaming device but not PC.

[@viki2162]

Honestly, how does Baldurs gate 3 play? I am playing it right now on steam deck oled and am looking specifically at the legion go to play this game.

[@TheBenny1683]

What makes you want to switch from the deck? Does Baldurs gate not run well?

[@jackwalker2913]

It runs really well..I typically get around 70fps on average playing on the go

[@viki2162]

@@TheBenny1683 it is not horrible but there’s some stutters and some issues with the visuals and the details in the graphics. Also a bigger screen is also a huge factor. I am not super technical. I have also heard when you get to act 2 and 3 is not playable on the deck. Again it is so far very good but it is not perfect. About 30-40 fps mostly but there’s dips and it freezes up sometimes for a split second. Just little things that add up that make for a distraction when your trying your get into the game.

[@dlysele]

This is strange. I subscribed to your channel but your videos rarely pop up on my feed until now. What’s up with that?

[@py1211]

Why not get a gaming PC instead?

[@melancholyentertainment]

Entirely different use case.

[@MeowO_O]

Hmmm... I wonder if the Microsoft Surface Pen work on this... 🤔🤔

[@wearelative]

Unfortunately it does not. 😢

[@cyrax3840]

And the controllers on the Lgo are ussually wobbly for some reason

[@ProGamingProphecy]

I have one and have never heard of this issue, could be a defective device. The only complain I have is the built in speakers, that's about it.

[@cyrax3840]

@@ProGamingProphecy its actually a common issue there is a redit post dedicated to this problem i have had 2 legion go’s and they both had a left controller that wobbles so i returned them both and im gonna wait for a different handheld or maybe give the lego a try again sometime in the future. But definitely its a defect Ofcourse not all have it but lots of people have complained about it.

[@creauspssrb627]

Still the problem for Windows is windows OS itself if you're the type who just wants to play with it without going technical the Deck is for you otherwise a lenovo and ally will work

[@NorseBlade]

Mans did not say the words vertical mouse even once, as if they didn't exist before.

[@israelramirez0202]

seems too big to truly be portable. the Ayaneo Air 1S with a 5.5in 1080p OLED screen and 7840U seems like a much more manageable machine as a handheld and has similar performance.

[@nickthaskater]

I prefer the GPD Win Max 2 over these widebody Steam Deck-style units. Bonus: my Win Max 2 has 32GB RAM.

[@jackykwan2580]

32gb of ram only adds a few more fps, its a waste of money. You can look at comparison video.

[@nickthaskater]

@@jackykwan2580 having more RAM with integrated graphics allows you to dedicate more to VRAM without compromising available system RAM. Also, I use it for more than gaming.

[@robertwendal5894]

Unfortunately Windows becomes all the manufacturer's biggest issue. It's tough to put blame on anyone because these aren't devices 20-30 million users are on, these are a niche market and you can't expect Microsoft to design an entirely new OS when the return on investment isn't there yet. The best we can hope for is a power management option built into windows specifically for these devices. Steam Deck has been working on steam OS as a pet project for a decade, but MSI, Lenovo, and Asus don't have a decade, and they also don't want the limitations of Linux. Just my thoughts.

[@leledumbo]

I think Steam Deck is still the king, especially with that new OLED model. It really caters the handheld gaming goal, not pushing resolutions to a ridiculous number, for instance. It strives for balanced performance and longevity of the gaming session instead. Their software support is also damn excellent. It is the only one that instead of just providing doors to access different libraries, providing a Steam Deck profile for each game instead, guaranteed at least adequate performance so you don't need to tinker and look for the right settings yourself.

[@YahRayEl]

I own both, deck is basically useless now that I have the Go. It plays Steam games better than the actual Steam deck. that's an objective fact.

[@leledumbo]

@@YahRayEl feel free to think so, as you clearly are focusing on performance only. I did write balance, didn't I?

[@oo--7714]

Sofware support, eh the shader cache/protoorn redistributle file issue and no straightforward way for me to remove it, on the 64gb version made me just give it away. And most games do not have a steam deck profile. At most games just check how powerful your laptop or pc is and ajusts accordingly.

[@leledumbo]

@@oo--7714 Software support is the greatest of all the competitors. The rest just build a single app on top of standard Windows, Valves customizes the underlying Archlinux as well. So unless you're a M$ slave, which Valve barely supports, it's all fine. Surely for us, desktop Linux users, we're not missing anything. Indeed if you play many modern games, 64GB is just not enough. Shader cache are not meant to be removed manually, because the point of a cache is to not reload, or in case of shader, to not recompile again when you load the game for the next time. Profiles will keep being added, it's a mammoth task considering how many games are there already. But you can compare how many of them now vs when Steam Deck was first released, which shows that Valve has been working hard.

[@melancholyentertainment]

@@leledumbo Sure but at the end of the day all of those other things can only matter so much when the actual gaming performance is sub-par. An OLED Steam Deck with the power of the Legion Go? Sure. But in its current state it’s a hard sell.

[@michaelmoore9870]

This device has made me realize how much of a tinkerer I am. I really like trying to get old emulations to work, customize things etc. This device is pretty awesome. My girlfriend really likes her switch and thinks I'm crazy. Lol she's mainly into offline retro games, and she wants them to just work without thought. I value decent graphics and enjoy the process of setting things up as much as I like gaming itself. I think in summary, if you want something to just work and don't mind paying full price for every game, get a switch or steam deck. These Windows machines in my opinion are meant for people who like to customize and possibly see what other purposes the device could be useful for. I think that's the main division.

[@Jason_P]

Dood. STOP. Anyone in the FGC will tell you that fighting game controls are unique, so a D--pad that's designed to operate 4 ways is not going to work. However, the Go is a gaming handheld that has to be as widely functional as possible. There is no way that Lenovo could have put a FGC-caliber D-pad on this thing. The D-pad on the Go works perfectly well for what it is designed to do. I use it every day when I play No Man's Sky and it's fine. Your hate is unfounded. Even you say that putting a hitbox-type controller is what you do to play SF.

[@anonymus5966]

Good stuff

[@KevSarmiento]

Just got mine today. But Im too tired to unbox it from shopping. Please do a day 1 set up tutorial 😊

[@Lofimusic-e6k]

so steam deck oled then.

[@neandertalac]

Too high resolution. And Windows without mouse is hell

[@rogeriogomesosorio4755]

Because I just use xcloud game, I just use my iPad Pro and it’s fantastic.

[@MobileDecay]

It has the best input lag too. A second of delay is so awesome.

[@Jorgeee]

@@MobileDecayA second of delay is insane bruh what are you on

[@MobileDecay]

@@Jorgeee Okay. Two minutes. 😊

[@pashafalahati]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y17EeKiOjtRkqNUsi=3HRxoe9XhSUvssqN Project Fiona 12 years ago made this

[@killdano]

cOnSoLe gAmEr: It's got all these extra buttons in the back that just get in the way because I don't care to use them

[@shaolin95]

Dude you whine a LOT about dumb things

[@Brenton656]

You lost me at wanting to game more than a few hours. I have one and it rolls the Ally and the deck is gutless.