Leonard French: Internet Law! Ep. 6.223

[@lawfulmasses]

Thanks for the great interview, Steve! It was a blast. I'm looking forward to the next collab!

[@ddaddy5403]

Enjoy the collab. Definitely put him on the spot at the end with the once or twice a week LMAO

[@JoshSweetvale]

Actually got the share ping on my feed. This will be a commute incrementally financing a different law-edutainer from my usual.

[@nuvey7939]

Now just get Nate Broady (@BroadyNate), Viva Frei (@TheVivaFrei), and see if you can resurrect Lior Leser (@youtuberlaw), and make something happen!

[@rosannadana2922]

HA..CHECK OUT ECLAUSE LLC, CHRIS HALLETT, KIRK PENDERGRASS..THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE GETTING LICENSE, ETC. THEY GO OVER CONSTITUTIONAL LAW TEACHING

[@TimothySielbeck]

I don't remember which of you I watched first but I enjoy watching you both very much.

[@therocinante3443]

Horray! A Steve Lehto collaboration. These always make my day.

[@danielweston9188]

Steve does have a nice interview behavior - takes some skill.

[@joelfeinberg3766]

Great show very interesting

[@rationalbushcraft]

This is so cool. My two favorite KZbin attorneys.

[@Timoteo3858]

Excellent presentation and discourse. Very entertaining Steve.. Thanks for being here. Tim

[@deltasource56]

The crossover we all needed

[@paradiselost1914]

I was shocked to wake up and see my two favorite attorneys together in the same video. Very cool.

[@machintelligence]

Shocked? You must have missed their previous collaboration. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6WbenSEr6djjc0

[@luxurycardstore]

HEY STEVE THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT!! I just clicked on the link to your website and it says NOTICE: This domain name expired on 12/24/2019 and is pending renewal or deletion. You might want to check with GoDaddy right away. Great video as usual. I was already subscribed to Leonard French but until now I didn't really know what kind of law he practiced. Thanks for the enlightenment.

[@dameek47]

Steve, you knocked it out of the park today with this video of you and Leonard. I found Leonard's videos a few weeks ago and now I've noticed I'm less productive now that I have two attorneys to follow. Thanks for a really interesting talk.

[@roguecthulhu6002]

I've been watching both of your channels for a while now. Saw the collab on LJF's channel. Enjoyed both. Hope to see more of these.

[@KTo288]

I am subscribed to both your channels, all you need to do now is to do collabs with Legal Eagle and Lock Picking Lawyer.

[@Kinkajou1015]

And Viva Frei to expand beyond only the USA.

[@MonkeyJedi99]

Ooh yes!

[@unclemarksdiyauto]

Steve, super discussion! Great colaboration for a video. Very interesting and could have watched the both of you for hours!

[@duanebuck193]

Love the new format - please do more of them! Now I've got two very worthwhile presenters I'm following.

[@curledup]

That was great. More with Leonard!

[@David-ej7qq]

Another great post by a great AND ethical attorney! Thanks Steve.

[@michaelktm6061]

great new show it is nice to see two decent guys talking about law issues also the captains that go outside the jetty's to bring the ships in are called Bar Pilots not Harbor Masters

[@rswear]

Leonard and Steve weekly, I like the sound of that

[@petegerardini2455]

I have a SUGGESTED TOPIC - Right to Repair - Since Steve specialty is automotive and Leonard involvement with Apple Battery issue with Louis Rossmann. I grew up in California and my dad owned an auto repair shop '70-'80s. He got out just as the mfg diagnosis computers started coming out, he was glad he did.

[@seanwelch71]

The only KZbin lawyers I've followed!

[@davidmtwigg]

Yes please a regular collaboration sounds awesome...not that you're boring or anything, I just love the by play of a discussion as a change of pace.

[@robertgibson4618]

Okay, the Harbor Master is the person who runs the port. The person who goes out to the incoming ship and guides her safely into that port is the Pilot.

[@JohnLynsAdventures]

2 out of 3 of my favorite KZbin attorneys in 1 video. If Lior Leser hadn't fallen off the planet we could get the 3 together.

[@user-eq8ww1gr6v]

Subscribed! Going to dig into your content after work. It's great to find more great content from ethical insightful and fun lawyers getting a perspective on the law from a real perspective vs just what we can see from Law and Order and the like.

[@ponypaljay]

Leonard sent me, and now I subscribed. looking forward to the rest of your vids

[@IkedaHakubi]

I discovered both your channels independently. I am so glad to see you together!

[@samanthamonaghan7579]

I introduced my husband to lawful masses and found Lehto Laws and watch main you Steve while hubby main watches Leonard. Computers in same room.

[@ThriftStoreHacker]

Steve and Leonard, great collaboration combo.

[@LindaB651]

Long time subscriber to Lawful Masses, and found your channel a few months ago and subscribed- awesome content on BOTH channels!

[@missyd0g2]

Nice to watch two very smart guys and lawyers too.

[@tompinnef6331]

Great interview - interesting subject. Thank you.

[@lowermichigan4437]

I've watched both channels for a bit. Have to say these collaboration videos are very interesting and enjoyable

[@LordLathos]

My two favorite youtube attorney's together! How awesome!

[@xmrgwxw3474]

So interesting and entertaining guys. Well done! Thanks

[@photochas]

Another successful joint venture. Glad it's working well. I'm looking forward to more of these.

[@GamerRPK]

Some ones probably pointed this out, but a Harbormaster is like the local police (for that harbor). What you’re talking about is a River Pilot (or maritime pilot)

[@colourfastt]

Gamer RPK I was screaming this out loud while watching the video.

[@DAVIDBrown-zp8sz]

Oops ! Generation --------- Gap ! " Do you play chess ?" " No , I play video games !" 😄 😅 😆

[@user01000101]

What was the game Leonard mentioned about the mail? Didn't catch the name.

[@majorp6084]

One of the best interviews i have seen in awhile! Both factual and informative with two great KZbinr’s . Steve you do a great service for us Michiganders keeeping us up to date with a every changing world. Thanks for all you do i hope you make a bagillion dollars and friends for you effort lol.

[@TrishGolden]

Yay! The bookend! I’m glad that y’all have started collaborations

[@Stevenwoodz]

I need a second video with you two. Stories and more stories.

[@r.a.monigold9789]

Nice. Thank you both...

[@garybelcher8259]

Great info.....Hope you continue with this type video... The discussion of different types of laws/court proceedings is very interesting and informative... And fun to watch!! .... 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@richardy1660]

I have occasionally watched Mr. French's channel when it comes up (usually as "people who watch Lehto's Law also watch") and the subject seems like it could be interesting. He does pretty good. But I'm subscibed to your channel, one of about 7 or 8 total, because even if the subject is mundane, you make it interesting, entertaining and frequently hilarious. Thanks for frequently making my day a little better. Have a great new year.

[@rogerp5816]

When are you doing another video with Leonard French? I watch you both and just came across this joint video thinks to the Google recommendation engine. You both do a great job explaining the law.

[@davidmatke248]

I really enjoyed watching this video and also the video on Leonard's channel. Please do more!

[@PaladinStem]

The duo is back!

[@jpboileau5473]

Really good stuff. The video edit is quite good. Good job Steve!

[@stevelehto]

It's what happens when everything works for once!

[@jpboileau5473]

@@stevelehto Welcome to my world! I deal with NHTSA, AMMVA and many other systems every day.

[@dixiechampagne2892]

Great interview, loved it

[@QALibrary]

another great video - next time you meet up a question for you both - what is your work week like - how much do you spend on youtube/streaming, working in court, working on cases and conducting research on cases?

[@barbaralane9825]

Watched Top 10 things lawyers say yesterday on your colleague’s channel. Really enjoyed it.

[@coadjr]

Fantastic ! You two are great. Keep up the content.

[@HollywoodHornet]

Heaven forbid a college dorm modem and router.

[@groermaik]

Hundo, unfolded, behind the tuner of the guitar on the right side of the cabinet. 491.

[@deplorabledave1048]

Fascinating!!

[@WCM1945]

I have discovered that I'm fascinated by listening to experts talking shop. Even If I only understand 1. 207% of it, every day I understand a little more.

[@mattman7472]

You two make me wanna be a lawyer

[@Money4Nothing]

Oh no, i love them so much that they make me never want to be a lawyer.

[@kittymande]

Baby Driver movie credits in background...Awesome

[@ryck2099]

@Steve I found you by watching 3 or 5 of Mr. French,s channel and really liked yours for lack of ranting for 20 minutes ( digressed a bit too much for my taste) and no goofy hats lol.

[@ghostshadow9046]

1988 had a alaska cop claim he could arrest me for not having an ID, I was not driving. I've also had a cop claim he could arrest me because I was physically unable to do a field sobriety test. Yes I'm going to be able to walk a straight line with leg in a cast and neck brace on, I was fortunate that another officer stopped that had some common sense.

[@fk319fk]

I have some negative thoughts about how this was done... With that said, I liked the interaction and the topic. I am looking forward to the next one.

[@yanchee2023]

The both of you are great

[@bugalaman]

I subscribed to Leonard simply because of the bird law shirt. If you haven't done so already, check out It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. It makes you appreciate being a decent person.

[@mebdev]

Great collab - very informative. As an aside, the link in the description for your website is incorrect - you dropped the 's'. :)

[@brentwallace3440]

mebdev put me down a GoDaddy rabbit hole looking at random website name costs. Lolol

[@qwerty_artist]

If you do him you gotta do Nick Rekeita! My favorite internet lawyer that covers specific lawsuits start to finish

[@jamiew6827]

My favorite superhero Duo

[@jacquesblaque7728]

Just FYI, what Leonard calls "harbormaster" is actually a harbor pilot. There are other sorts of marine pilots, e.g. for English Channel. Some pilots are qualified for both, such as English Channel and River Scheldt (Antwerp approaches).

[@grantyboy0311]

Love the show.

[@briancd37]

Hi Steve - FYI - the URL for your site in the description has a typo - but the incorrect domain you posted will come available soon - you should purchase! :) Good video. Would be interested in the topic from an international perspective (EU).

[@stevelehto]

Got it. Thanks.

[@jasonhudson4239]

He said Malibu Media and I had no idea what that was. Did some research. You have to read The New Yorker article on how Malibu Media started. Fascinating!

[@donarnold8268]

Thank You! Straight to Facebook!

[@JohnDoeCycle]

So many cases. I might as well live at the court.

[@donwaltman4276]

Great video , lots of info. I like the deep in the rules of the law, kind of a inside baseball, if you know what I mean

[@jpol3808]

Hi Steve. A regular scheduled interview with him every two to four weeks would work well. There is plenty of internet law and general topics to talk about. That still gives the working man time in the evening to catch your regular videos and watch live on the weekend. But beware! He might get jealous if he finds out that you, have a robot Lady! Later. Jpol.

[@disenfranchisedliberal3073]

Regarding Leonard French's recommendation on "buying an OSI Layer-3 aware switch" (35:02): a layer-3 switch handles _routing,_ usually not particularly well, and is almost certainly *not* suitable for packet inspection. I think a DPI-capable *router* would be a much more appropriate. :) Not to be pedantic, but if you're going to drop packets at the protocol level, using the right tool for the job is not only prudent because of the difference in actual effectiveness, it can save you a lot of money too.

[@duggerd]

A NGFW (Next Generation FireWall) is the current term for protocol aware firewall appliances. You _could_ use a L3 switch (or just do this at your edge router/firewall) and use ACLs to only allow UDP/53, TCP/80, TCP/443, etc but that's not 100% effective and would be a pain to manage.

[@disenfranchisedliberal3073]

@@duggerd Yep. Most BT clients for the last decade can easily evade L3 filters with the default settings, and even some L7 filters (aka NGFW). It can be blocked, but it's not as straightforward as with some other protocols. Probably close to impossible with an L3 _switch_ without also making your entire network unusable. That said, at least something with reasonably well implemented DPI could block or at least monitor a lot of it, so you might be able to call it due diligence.

[@beth551000]

I hope you feel better

[@bengagliardo1080]

thanks steve... im going to check this guy out....

[@WCM1945]

I see Leonard has decided to compete with your fancy set! :D

[@toomuchsugar3960]

Great job on the video! How come you didn't show your last interview together?

[@DruBolack]

hmmm "open WIFI" idea: open a guest network. and leave it open. So that i can say under oath that my WIFI is open.

[@kentcavaghan3224]

Hi Gents, good video. Just a (small) nit - the harbourmaster stays on shore, it is a pilot who brings the ships in and those guys have to be highly experienced.

[@lilricky2515]

The litigating dynamic duo! :)

[@arterickson9809]

Your definition of a harbourmaster is actually that of a “Pilot or Harbour Pilot”. The Harbourmaster sits in an office and oversees the assignation of anchoring points, docking, lading, refuelling and departures from port as well as all necessary port charges. He can prevent your ship from leaving harbour should your account be in arrears.

[@JamesDean-nx2nq]

Just casually throwing in a "Hideo Kojima" refference. 😂😂😂 #smarterthantheaveragebear🔥 #nerdpower✊✊✊🤝🤜💥🤛

[@StarSong936]

I used to use Bit Torrent. Don't know if they still do this, but they did have where you could pay them for movies and the like, and they paid out the royalties to the copyright owner. I used them to primarily for downloading Linux and freeware stuff. The idea behind it sounds good on paper, however, far too many people use it for illegal things, and there is also if someone has a virus on their computer, well now you got the virus, so I avoid those types of services.

[@chartle1]

I found you both maybe around the same time. Leonard with the story about the guy dragged off the plane and Steve with Sam and the pizza car.

[@dray1842]

My internet is sovereign and does not comply

[@zylond7078]

You guys should make a podcast for sure

[@therocinante3443]

Also just out of curiosity, does using a VPN reduce the risk of being found at all?

[@claudecash9364]

What do you guys think of mark Christopher from England or miller

[@skippybingham5715]

Steve, your driver's license argument is valid, however I ask whether a similar provision to my Australian state of New South Wales exists anywhere in the USA. That is that in a life threatening situation neither the license or vehicle registration matters, I.E. in our current bushfire crisis if it is drive-able it gets put to work, if you can drive even suspended out you go.

[@pipatron]

Interesting to see that your subscriber counts are so closely matched.

[@gaylanlee6447]

Very enlightening and scary in light of family and friends that visit and we allow them to use our WiFi. Do any of us really know what others are doing with the keys to our stuff when we are not watching? Does having a guest WiFi access offer any protection?

[@CatFish107]

Perhaps it's different terminology in the US, but in most other parts of the world, the job being described by Leonard is not the "harbour master", but more the "pilot" or "coastal pilot".

[@sinebar]

How do people typically get caught?

[@btbingo]

I was a book dealer and was frequently assured that I was abysmally ignorant about the value of books. This was invariably spouted by persons who had never sold or collected any books.

[@ki5rllthreedronefour85]

A Harbor Master and a ship Pilot are two different people with very different duties. The Pilot goes out and “drives or directs” a ship into port.

[@Murph9000]

Being pedantic, but the judge would be the Harbor Master, the attorneys are the Harbor Pilots (a highly respected and highly skilled job).

[@theeuda]

I works love to get you guys together with Andrew Torrez on the open arguments podcast. DC METRO represent.

[@elzoog]

Steve, try looking up "illegal number". Imagine the fact that if you have a certain number (like 17 or 37) stored on your computer, you could be charged with a crime.

[@gearloose703]

How could I, as an owner of an internet connection, be held accountable of the traffic or have the expertise to understand the traffic which is going through the connection? Nobody does that. And if someone can, how come are not the internet service providers sued instead if they are able to detect illegal activity and do nothing about it?

[@HorthornNZ]

I believe that it is the pilot who guides ships into port, Harbour masters run and organize the port (its all part of the service lol)