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I Tried the Fender Tone Master Pro

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Leon Todd

Leon Todd

Күн бұрын

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@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
PART 2 HERE - kzbin.info/www/bejne/anLbh4SQhdiWj68 When I'm not cultivating a single eyebrow I make music and you can listen to it here - ragdollrock.bandcamp.com/track/skies-limit
@n0nyabznss
@n0nyabznss 10 ай бұрын
Did Fender buy Quad Cortex?
@carmelodl8407
@carmelodl8407 10 ай бұрын
That link doesn't work for me
@carmelodl8407
@carmelodl8407 10 ай бұрын
Nevermind... I went to your main bandcamp page and I was able to listen. Guitars on "Skies Limit" sound great! 🤟🏼 I guess they're recorded with a Fractal?
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
thanks for taking the time to check it out! yeah used the fractal Recto for those @@carmelodl8407
@lainerowlinson2250
@lainerowlinson2250 10 ай бұрын
I hope fender send you out two of the new FRFR-12 powered cabinets keen to hear your opinion on a stereo setup with axefx3 as I’m looking on upgrading mine to something better than the two headrush 112 that I have for my axefx3
@mike70s
@mike70s 10 ай бұрын
Best demo/feedback of this I've seen. I watched 5 other channels, you gave a positive,honest and realistic representation, thanks .
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@joshuabenton3785
@joshuabenton3785 10 ай бұрын
not a bad first swing into the modeling market. I am glad that Fender saw the landscape and decided it was best to get with the times instead of remaining stagnant. Smart move I think.
@bulletsforteeth5029
@bulletsforteeth5029 10 ай бұрын
This isn't there first swing... More like their fifth since the Mustang V series.
@joshuabenton3785
@joshuabenton3785 10 ай бұрын
@@bulletsforteeth5029 I was unaware that Fender made a standalone modeling unit before?
@auntjenifer7774
@auntjenifer7774 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, yet had Mustang V pedal boards just like this board today. It actually sounded really good so I'm excited to hear what this new one sounds like !
@bulletsforteeth5029
@bulletsforteeth5029 10 ай бұрын
@@auntjenifer7774 Fender models always sound good, except the Mustang LT's, don't know what they were thinking there? But their pedals and modeling FX are pretty solid. Digital amps have their place, but no matter how good the models are, they are still 'MODELS', NOT AMPS! And if you watch a side by side next to the actual tube amp/cab its trying to emulate, you will see it falls short compared to an actual tube amp. Louis aka; The Tone King and Phillip McKnight pointed this shortcoming of Fender Digital modeling compared to the Fender real deal tube amps. It doesn't mean digital amps are bad or anything, it just proves that they're different.
@GazWilliams
@GazWilliams 10 ай бұрын
Great video Leon. You have a fantastic approach that is eminently watchable!
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
Thanks mate, that means a lot! You are also eminently watchable:)
@rockstarjazzcat
@rockstarjazzcat 10 ай бұрын
The great Gaz is in the house! ☺️
@fastacesus8499
@fastacesus8499 10 ай бұрын
Sounds bloody good. Modelling has come a long way in the last 15 years. Good simple demo too
@gregeddins5854
@gregeddins5854 10 ай бұрын
Like every video you drop, this one has content that matters to players. I had already written this off as a NO...but after watching (and hearing) you demonstrate the flexibility of the signal chain, the ability to move and choose the mics on the speakers, and the overall excellence (IMO) of the UI I'm reconsidering. Frankly, as an old guy who plays in the worship band at my church I can see this unit working great for me. I've been on Fractal for 3yrs and love my FM3. But I can see where this could really shorten my build time on presets. Plus, I love Fender amps. And as you said they seem to have done a great job with them. I'll be watching to see what Fender does around support. Thank you for another great vid. Worth every minute.
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
I appreciate that. I always try to make videos I'd personally want to watch.
@BrianFerracci
@BrianFerracci 10 ай бұрын
It's the iFractal... User interface over customization. This will appeal to everyone who hates deep diving into menus and loves Fender and Fender licensed amps.
@jeffmaestro
@jeffmaestro 10 ай бұрын
Not sure if my brain is fooling me but I didn’t hear a single sound that was bad or needed a ton of tweaking!!! I’m getting this for sure. Great tones to my ears without looking at a schematic to change diodes and tubes. 😂 I’m loving it! Great review my friend!!!
@nj1255
@nj1255 10 ай бұрын
It's the same price as a Fractal FM-9, Neural DSP Quad Cortex or Line 6 Helix ($1699). If it was half that price I could _maybe_ see myself trying one out just for shits and giggles, but I'd much rather spend my money on companies that do modelling as their main business, and have done so succesfully for many years, instead of buying a modeller produced by a corporate conglomerate that are known to cancel products within a year or two of the release just because it didn't reach some anticipated sales figure (i.e didn't earn them enough money to satisfy the shareholders). If you haven't tried any of the other modellers I mentioned, I recommend that you do a comparison between them and the Tone Master Pro at your local music store before you decide to buy it. That's what I would have done at least.
@jeffmaestro
@jeffmaestro 10 ай бұрын
@@nj1255 You have some good points. But my thinking is if you do it right the first time, you don’t have to continually upgrade and improve. And I agree about companies dropping products (Presonus) has to be one of the worse about launching a product and in a year it’s no longer in production. Fender hasn’t given me that vibe…yet. I have three of the tone master amps and love them.
@reverb508
@reverb508 10 ай бұрын
@@jeffmaestro My only concern with the Fender is that it's not clear how long they will support it with firmware updates. Fractal and Line 6 especially have long track records of supporting their products. That said, I thought the models sounded fantastic.
@jeffmaestro
@jeffmaestro 10 ай бұрын
@@reverb508Yes, I agree with you. However, I think fender took their time with this and will support it. No way to know for sure but I’m liking what I hear so far. Plus as a Stoic I live for today. I’m 58. I’ll probably be dead and the tone master will still be here. Lol.
@dam7577
@dam7577 7 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠@@reverb508 it was made to last, I read that there would be more options in the cab, soldano soon and rectification of evh;, it is more powerful than the fx3 axis, satriani plays with it live. have you seen satriani play with fractal? Steve va? petrucci? They have their amps and they don't even play with them. I tested TMP for 10 minutes, it's fantastic, it sounds immediately. I bought a fr12, it's the best frfr cab (I've had several). I'm selling my fx3 axis for tmp (sorry fractal) this afternoon I lost 3 hours to make 2 presets, now I have to buy the dynacab (meh). I had the fx1 axis, the 2 and the 3, it will be the last (we will see for 4),soon out of stock.
@peterharvin2775
@peterharvin2775 10 ай бұрын
The UI and the footswitch setup really impressed me. The tones... well, just don't sell your Fractal, and I don't plan to sell my Helix. But I very much enjoyed the demo.
@70mcnevin
@70mcnevin 10 ай бұрын
I have an Axe FX III. It’s been fantastic. There’s nothing wrong with these tones at all. And dang that interface and form factor slays. If it said Fractal FM4 in the corner instead of Fender, everybody would be preaching game over, everywhere. All of these modelers need tweaking and time to learn the nuances. Adding IR’s is key. Fender will add to this over time I’m sure. But LT was hammering sounds out of this that were studio worthy already. You can see he was inspired. As an unofficial/official Fractal spokesman you can only go so far in your praise I would imagine. But you can’t say that Headrush didn’t change the game with touchscreens, that Fender hasnt developed an awesome one, and that Fractal now has their work cut out for them if they want to stay top dog. If Fender priced this a couple hundred lower, they could score major market share immediately. And start building a base of their own if they were forward looking enough.
@auntjenifer7774
@auntjenifer7774 10 ай бұрын
😂I know my Headrush sounds way way way better than this modern fender tone made.
@mattjc
@mattjc 10 ай бұрын
I'm actually quite interested in their cabinets. The 10" is 500 USD compared to the Friedman ASC-10 at 1200 USD.
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
yeah those look pretty decent hey!
@yjm100playloud
@yjm100playloud 10 ай бұрын
Can you please demo them
@jammergreg
@jammergreg 10 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the introduction of the fender cyber twin back in the early 2000s.
@sgmarshall3
@sgmarshall3 10 ай бұрын
Yes. Expensive and not as good as the competition
@carminelombardi9575
@carminelombardi9575 12 күн бұрын
You're comments on firmware updates for me is the reason I'll go for the FM9, for smaller gigs, additionally if one has the Axe Fx3 they can capture amps and pedals to create presets that can then be downloaded to the FM9.
@kaidemen156
@kaidemen156 10 ай бұрын
Great review brother, you really do a good job covering all the aspects of the device.
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@lordpeekaboo
@lordpeekaboo 10 ай бұрын
Love the workflow and it sounds as good as anything else. Impressed by the artist presets. What I really want is a tweed FR-12!
@user-wq6yd1yr1q
@user-wq6yd1yr1q 6 ай бұрын
Nice Presentation. I was going to buy the DSP quad Cortex Neural tomorrow, and now I am going to reconsider that purchase for this one. Thank You
@ianfurqueron5850
@ianfurqueron5850 10 ай бұрын
Sounds decent - at least through laptop speakers... and the UI looks great - it appears you don't really need a computer interface to get deep into editing. Using the foot switches as rotary knobs is brilliant (hopefully they're durable). I am a bit surprised at the $1700 USD price. For some reason I was expecting it to be less expensive, or at least to undercut the FM3.
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 8 ай бұрын
Agreed. Sounds are merely decent imho (all seem to tend towards being dark/very dark), and those combination knob/dials seem like a big potential liability … imagine trying to get them replaced … lol. The pretty look/interface (and several loops?) seem like its standout features … I honestly can’t see this lasting long (especially not with the Tonex around), unless Fender makes it sound a lot better, pretty quickly … The sounds are not top-dollar, which is what they’re charging … Ongoing support from Fender?!?! I see this tanking, and Fender cutting and running …
@els1f
@els1f 10 ай бұрын
I'm genuinely impressed! I didn't even know this was coming out tbh
@rodgerrichter7271
@rodgerrichter7271 10 ай бұрын
The Tone Master Pro is much more friendly and for cleans and Fender tones will have the market once they get going and continue firmware updates. Being a songwriter and contemporary jazz artist I dislike modelers until now. If Fender does it right they will make bank. Great job Fender!
@BParker55
@BParker55 10 ай бұрын
This seriously might pull me away from my anti modeling mentality. The UI is absolutely amazing. I love the 4 loops you can throw in and everything I've heard sounds fantastic. Also, my wife said it seems like a good price for everything that it does so that's something boys.
@MG-cd7wi
@MG-cd7wi 9 ай бұрын
Pulled me away. I sold my evh head and cabinet and bought the tonemaster pro. Sounds amazing and zero learning curve. Just plug it in and start playing.
@0TheRain0
@0TheRain0 10 ай бұрын
I think the Fractal still edges it out for sound. And by far for flexibility. But looks like a nice and modern take on a modeling box.
@michaelwilson2497
@michaelwilson2497 10 ай бұрын
My AX8 is hell to use. This is much simpler. And my AX8 makes a noise I can't kill without cranking the noise gate, killing the sustain and tone
@2204JCM
@2204JCM 10 ай бұрын
@@michaelwilson2497Your AX8 is old technology. You can’t compare previous generations with current generation.
@mixedmartialnutrition1746
@mixedmartialnutrition1746 10 ай бұрын
wow those sounds are freakin nice sounding and very bright, dig the playing man you are versatile with your styles.
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@mikes51501
@mikes51501 10 ай бұрын
I have to say im really impressed by the tone and by the user friendly management. Well done from first view. Great demo as usual
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@odyssey6684
@odyssey6684 10 ай бұрын
One thing I noticed with this unit is that the amp models sound like they have more girth than others I've heard, which makes this more realistic. If Fender can get rid of the artifacts in the high gain amps, I have the feeling this will be a very popular unit.
@drewnorth3816
@drewnorth3816 9 ай бұрын
I'm hearing the artifacts in the clean amps too, when they start getting pushed. It's less noticeable, but it's there. And it's there in almost every demo I've seen, except for the Anderton's demo.
@deanopie4390
@deanopie4390 10 ай бұрын
My initial thoughts are that it’s more inline with what I wanted from a quad cortex…. It’s a mix between a headrush and cortex I want
@JTB--
@JTB-- 10 ай бұрын
Great Demo Leon. I hope they eventually come out with a Little Brother/Junior model of this Tone Master Pro
@Plextortion
@Plextortion 10 ай бұрын
Glad this has a full size plug in power cord rather than the cheap and cheesy power supply supplied with the Quad Cortex.
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
Big time
@andrew6978
@andrew6978 10 ай бұрын
Great vid Leon, thanks. Rocking the Liam Gallagher monobrow! Fender are entering a very contested market, but more competition is always better.
@IamMusicNerd
@IamMusicNerd 10 ай бұрын
It’s awesome, but the one thing missing is the ability to capture and share captures. I have some old classic amps and pedals that do not come in the unit, that I want to add in. That’s the one feature holding it back from passing the Quad Cortex. If they add that in, I would buy one in a second.
@surfrby8876
@surfrby8876 6 ай бұрын
I like this , Nice size , interface , user friendly and sounds good , Fractal , Helix , Quad are all exceptional but there’s always room for competitors , thanks Leon
@tonyrapa-tonyrapa
@tonyrapa-tonyrapa 10 ай бұрын
I don't yet have a modeller floor unit (or any other modeller!). I must say that I'm tempted by this. I'm not worried about not having a rabbit hole to tweak amps - that's for people with too much time on their hands! But the price is fairly steep - when the time comes, let's see what happens.
@toptimmy5150
@toptimmy5150 10 ай бұрын
When any new gear comes out… this is my first stop for a fair honest and overall the best reviews…. Appreciate your work brother…. 🙏🏻☮️🤘👍🏻👍🏻
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
I appreciate that! Means a lot to know it's more than just bad guitar faces and noise.
@ivanlydian6698
@ivanlydian6698 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for your videos, Leon! You are one of the best Guitar chanels of all KZbin. You, Leo Gibson, John Nathan inspired me to start my own KZbin Chanel about Amp Modelers in Spanish. Cheers from Mexico!
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
That's awesome! John and Leo are legends.
@johnnyringo8174
@johnnyringo8174 10 ай бұрын
Fender has been doing modeling for a while now. They started with the Cybertwin amps and then the Mustang amps and floorboard.
@StratsRUs
@StratsRUs 10 ай бұрын
And it will be interesting to see what updates will do fr it, too.
@johnnyringo8174
@johnnyringo8174 10 ай бұрын
​@@StratsRUsyeah, its cool but I think for now I will stick with my Synergy, H9 and CabM+.
@ponch242
@ponch242 10 ай бұрын
Which all sucked
@PeterDStephens
@PeterDStephens 10 ай бұрын
Great video mate, really balanced perspectives and great sounds going!
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Ppuffdiddleydangdoof
@Ppuffdiddleydangdoof 10 ай бұрын
The touch screen on this is large and very easy to use. The Line 6 Pod Go I use is a similar size, but much less user friendly. This is somewhat pricey, but for the ease of use, I believe it's worth the money and I'll probably buy one because of informative and superb video. Your video making skills are nearly at the level of your guitar skills, which is f*cking high. Thank you.
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
I really appreciate that mate!
@pino_7428
@pino_7428 10 ай бұрын
Good to see new stuff. I’ll keep my QC, is not perfect but sounds great and is super easy to dial in.
@ERMAV
@ERMAV 4 күн бұрын
I’m here to combat the hate for this poor thing. Never stood a chance. Guys…. This thing is FANTASTIC. If you can’t do it with this it simply can’t be done.
@Widdy5150
@Widdy5150 10 ай бұрын
I've known about this for awhile (work in UK guitar retail) Not too sure, will have to see what the next few months bring re, artists that take this on board. Great honest review @leon
@AmericanNationalist852
@AmericanNationalist852 10 ай бұрын
I have a feeling this unit is going to be like a fart in the wind to anyone who isn't a boomer
@peterjessop1878
@peterjessop1878 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this Leon. The hardware looks really good, but not convinced about the sounds honestly. I don’t think fractal have anything to worry about as those units have so much more tweak ability and generally appeal to a different type of player.(like me) Once the price falls however both Helix and Headrush have a serious competitor. At the present price though I don’t think it sits well in the market place.
@drewlowe5001
@drewlowe5001 10 ай бұрын
Just what the world needs. Another amp modeler. Great Video as always. I still love my Atomic.
@markpaul3898
@markpaul3898 9 ай бұрын
Great demo, thank you! I’m always amazed not only by the tones you manage to get from the modelers you demo, but also by how quickly you learn to use them. Hope to see the EL34 get added to this unit as well.
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 9 ай бұрын
I appreciate that mate :)
@christopherhansford6876
@christopherhansford6876 10 ай бұрын
Ooh, that interface is more than sexy…it’s practical! When you want to adjust the knobs on an amp it is much easier to turn the knobs that double as foot switches than using the touchscreen. Great idea!
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
Yeah that's probably my favourite aspect of the UI
@ayewhaddupdoe
@ayewhaddupdoe 10 ай бұрын
idk, I wanted to like it because the UI looks phenominal, but tone-wise, NDSP, fractal, and Helix crush what I've heard between you and Ola.
@SunnyBeeRandomTuber
@SunnyBeeRandomTuber 10 ай бұрын
FM9's tonesand system + Tone Master Pro's UI = the perfect weapon of mass awesomeness
@JeffHendricks
@JeffHendricks 10 ай бұрын
Preconfigured chains (like the Headrush) isn't great, but everything else I think knocks it out the park. And combination button/knobs is just bonkers. LOVE the XLR outs, too.
@rockstarjazzcat
@rockstarjazzcat 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, bonkers expresses it. Don’t understand the wisdom in combination of foot/hand controls for so many reasons.
@JeffHendricks
@JeffHendricks 10 ай бұрын
@@rockstarjazzcat I imagine it's for people using it just like Leon here, on a desktop, in a studio.
@rutger4131
@rutger4131 10 ай бұрын
Not sure, but I bet it's to manage CPU load in a predictable way.
@ironblast5
@ironblast5 10 ай бұрын
Preconfigured chains This was one of the big nonstarters for me I hated my headrush gigboard for that and sold it
@skyriderfl2435
@skyriderfl2435 10 ай бұрын
I have been a Fractal person now for 3 years. This thing has got my attention. Great video Leon. Thanks for the info!!!
@user-zv7lm8uk7h
@user-zv7lm8uk7h 10 ай бұрын
This is the FM4 Markll, which Fractal will never release.
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. The UI and workflow in this is really well thought out. I'll be interested to see how the effects and modelling develop over time.
@alexwong7
@alexwong7 10 ай бұрын
Interesting. QC interface, Boss GT routing, Helix like for live use. Not hearing QC/Fractal level of tones, especially on the Brit amps but will wait and see how opinions develop. I want to love it but I'm not sure. It sounds like it can sound great but will need a more post processing than some others to get there.
@diegoos5202
@diegoos5202 10 ай бұрын
The price should be close to headrush prime, Helix LT and FM3 if Fender wants to have a chance. Otherwise it will be a complete failure. Now you can buy an FM9 without a waiting list.
@kinsoundstudios
@kinsoundstudios 10 ай бұрын
This unit doesn’t sound so good here. The Fenders sound good, but the high gain amps all have that Aliasing artifact character. Maybe a hi cut filter can fix it, but that’s a bit surprising that they released the unit sounding like that.
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
Yeah I wonder what's going on with their oversampling and anti aliasing filters
@kinsoundstudios
@kinsoundstudios 10 ай бұрын
Shouldn’t be a tough fix I imagine. There’re enough resources available to implement decent anti aliasing filtering, and the hardware should be well appointed at this price point.
@jacktaromino6324
@jacktaromino6324 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely a incredible demonstration I'm in for one it's offering everything imaginable in one unit. Buy the way your a awesome Guitarist very talented thanks!
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@JamieSlays
@JamieSlays 10 ай бұрын
this sounds great :D
@lbarj
@lbarj 10 ай бұрын
I like the unit great workflow love the graphics amps + pedals. I'm really impressed by the FRFR cab that they offer with it though, as already have FM9. does all that better for me already.
@grahammcguitar2715
@grahammcguitar2715 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree with your point in relation to support and evolution over the lifespan of the product That has been a major factor in keeping me on the Helix to date. 7 years old now which is an eternity in tech years especially in guitar tech years, but it has been continually and regularly updated. It's also an area where Boss have failed with the GT-1000 IMO
@NickGranville
@NickGranville 10 ай бұрын
Had a heads up on this one before it was released and then someone went and leaked it and now you’ve got your hands on one. Nice. Let’s hope fender can do fender amp models well
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
I think the Fender and 5150 models are definitely the highlight here!
@NickGranville
@NickGranville 10 ай бұрын
@@LeonToddagree, those were the tones they have done best. The Marshall tones need work IMO from what I’ve heard so hopefully that can be a firmware update sometime soon 😊
@heavybrett-al4082
@heavybrett-al4082 10 ай бұрын
Holy Swiss cheese batman!! Is it me? But your demo Leon has me convinced that fender has pulled a rabbit from its hat! Love the look and layout, and maybe I'm a noob ...but it sound pretty dam good to me 😮
@notalkguitarampplug-insrev784
@notalkguitarampplug-insrev784 10 ай бұрын
Pros= - sounds goods, amps, pedals and effects - nice presets - robust construction - best screen and graphics - knobs - Fender brand (means no issues to find one, no issue for warranty, repair, no huge g66 style import prices) Cons= - no capture or .nam support - big and heavy - screen lags a little
@aaronsmithey4044
@aaronsmithey4044 10 ай бұрын
This thing is so cool! I am going to have to get onboard with this.
@BrendanMakesMusic
@BrendanMakesMusic 10 ай бұрын
I have yet to see anything that would compel someone to say “this is worth more of my money than an FM9”
@rutger4131
@rutger4131 10 ай бұрын
I does look like it's maybe easier to get going / less of a learning curve. The FM9 is about 33% more expensive but at this price point I'm not sure that's really an issue. If you're shopping with that money, why not go all out.
@tele4tone
@tele4tone 10 ай бұрын
Last I knew FM9 didn’t do stereo amps and cabs?
@carmelodl8407
@carmelodl8407 10 ай бұрын
​@@tele4tonethe FM9 can do dual amps/cabs since its release... maybe you're confusing it with the FM3
@PeterDunbar
@PeterDunbar 10 ай бұрын
Facts
@rmp5s
@rmp5s 10 ай бұрын
EXACTLY what I said...I don't see why ANYONE would buy this over an FM9 or Quad Cortex, both of which have been out for literally years at this point (getting all the kinks and bugs ironed out) and cost the same.
@HowardFrischer
@HowardFrischer 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for your time.
@horizonxx_1
@horizonxx_1 Ай бұрын
That hall verb sounded nice
@FrazySting
@FrazySting 10 ай бұрын
Very nice demo. Informative and fun. Good job Leon.
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@AmericanNationalist852
@AmericanNationalist852 10 ай бұрын
Competition is good, so cool I guess, but i don't think I'm going to regret my FM9t purchase any time soon
@algorithm007ify
@algorithm007ify 10 ай бұрын
FM9 is better.
@Ozman77
@Ozman77 10 ай бұрын
well, I'm not getting rid of my FM9, but if i have some extra cash i'm not opposed to adding this to the collection. Looks and sounds amazing. Also, if i were a new purchaser and had the choice between this, or QC, i'd take a spin on a new product from Fender before going back to a company that still hasn't fully delivered on release day touted features nearly two years later.
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
It even launched with a plate reverb!
@CamiloVelandia
@CamiloVelandia 10 ай бұрын
Love the screen! Cool unit!
@PeterNorthcote
@PeterNorthcote 10 ай бұрын
Another excellent video Leon. Thank you!
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
Thanks mate. Hope life is treating you well!
@roccocrocco817
@roccocrocco817 10 ай бұрын
Not diggin' the Marshalls.
@AmericanNationalist852
@AmericanNationalist852 10 ай бұрын
I'm not really digging the unit in general lol
@jamesalley7387
@jamesalley7387 10 ай бұрын
This is the modeling rig I’ve been imagining. Skeuomorphic and easy to use.
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
Reminds me of Amplitube or similar plugins.
@poesybeat
@poesybeat 10 ай бұрын
I really like that it doesn’t have an integrated expression pedal. Helix needs a version in this configuration.
@Alex_Echo
@Alex_Echo 10 ай бұрын
but there is HX Stomp XL
@poesybeat
@poesybeat 10 ай бұрын
Agreed, but doesn’t have the big touch screen or the dials on the switches, which would be really nice. I have an HX Stomp and find editing on the unit no fun at all. If there was an HX/Helix version that was exactly this Fender unit’s design, I’d probably be willing to pay about $899 for it.
@Alex_Echo
@Alex_Echo 10 ай бұрын
@@poesybeat well, I dont know. IMHO Helix's controls are enough for tweaking on fly, but at home I'd still prefer to use PC instead touchscreen. I personally find editing in Helix/HX great (esp comparing with AX8 or other Fractal devices). Dials on the switches - I think its questionable. The more complex the switch, the higher probable it fails, the more expensive it's repair. This is a stage device, imagine that it has to withstand dirt, dust and glycerol from smoke machines.
@poesybeat
@poesybeat 10 ай бұрын
Can’t argue with failure risk on the combo dial/switch. I stick to using HX Edit for editing too, just wish on the fly editing was a bit less cumbersome. But I’m used to pedals, so I even found the better screen on the Helix LT to be not great.
@Alex_Echo
@Alex_Echo 10 ай бұрын
@@poesybeat I agree, they could've installed a better screen into HX. The present is good enough but it can be better. I hope Line 6 will release new flagman device where they include all this options
@paulhunt9375
@paulhunt9375 10 ай бұрын
Fender is known for its incredible clean tones. Glad that you took the dirt off and demoed the clean channels. My opinion, Fender should have stuck to their own tones and not try to mimic other manufacturers.😊
@wadefinch2664
@wadefinch2664 10 ай бұрын
For me sounds between units can get close to each other across brands BUT the big thing is support over the lifetime of the hardware/software. Big names tend to abandon stuff after two or so years unlike say Fractal who support and update well past expectations.
@StratsRUs
@StratsRUs 10 ай бұрын
Man, Leon, you do great videos. Thanks
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@pc2908
@pc2908 10 ай бұрын
Excellent review Leon! Mahalo
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@V8LC100
@V8LC100 10 ай бұрын
Nice review Leon. A good bit of kit and looks easier to use than some other units.
@JasonMcNamara
@JasonMcNamara 10 ай бұрын
I LOVE the 40:15 to the end part of this video. EVERYONE needs to watch that. Thank god for Leon Todd who doesn’t f¥ck about and just tells it like it is 🤘🤩 I’m sticking to my Fractal FM9 as well. It may not have a pretty touch screen and requires some learning, but you also get out of the Fractal what you put in.
@davidlavin4774
@davidlavin4774 10 ай бұрын
Best video I've seen so far on this new device.
@Nikkohh
@Nikkohh 10 ай бұрын
Such a great demo, thanks mate!
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@Paul_Lenard_Ewing
@Paul_Lenard_Ewing 10 ай бұрын
Factual and Neural are generally considered the Ferrari of the modelers and Fender wants the same price. Add to that if it doesn't sell to Fenders expectations they will drop it and instantly not support it. They have a very long record of leaving guys stuck with bug ridden product with zero resale value. I think Fender users are really looking for a preset product. A pro will never get past the Fractal, Neural options and like our host wisely want to stay there. Maybe they should have called it The Fender Tone Master Custom Shop, lol. That would be more to the point when they want to sell a product with no value for money.
@JavierPwns
@JavierPwns 10 ай бұрын
Fractal is King.
@ChinqMiau1
@ChinqMiau1 10 ай бұрын
Love the UI, to me it sounds fantastic.
@keithmulcahy3417
@keithmulcahy3417 10 ай бұрын
Sounds like a great unit but the price point is a bit high I think
@lickysixx
@lickysixx 10 ай бұрын
I pray the day never comes I need to play live through a digital simulation of a great amp.
@bllyfen8
@bllyfen8 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing a proper demo, great stuff as always. Looks cool, but I don't think I'm part of the target demo for this thing - I've never minded getting in the weeds to edits a great preset
@stanleynowak9325
@stanleynowak9325 6 ай бұрын
Whoa junior, the Cyber series of amp at the turn of this century were excellent modelling amp.
@monmixer
@monmixer 10 ай бұрын
I think one of those things would drive me into a frenzy of confusion over what sounds I want. lol So much to choose from. I do know what I like and fully understand what is going on with these. I know people who have been using modelers for a years. A few dropped the physical amplifier completely and most have gone in ears. These are also great for singing guitarist. You don't have to worry about the amp. Set it and forget it. Turn it on and fly nightly.
@jimtaugher1622
@jimtaugher1622 10 ай бұрын
Listening in my car, Leon fantastic recording quality!
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it mate!
@bthellam
@bthellam 10 ай бұрын
I remember when modeling amps first started coming out, and Fender entered the category with the Cyber Twin. It was decent at the time. Motorized pots were cool. But I think I'm good with the XL+. I will complement Fender for working to stay relevant to the modern market, though!
@artysanmobile
@artysanmobile 5 ай бұрын
Good? I think it is flat-out great!
@sleonse
@sleonse 10 ай бұрын
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE EVERYTHING but the tones… they still sound cold and a touch unconvincing. They need to upgrade the algorithms so that it has more of that “real” character and behavior. Also warmth. ❤ With that said, I think it blows away the competition on everything else in my opinion. Simple, useful, powerful, slick, beautiful. Nice job Fender! ❤️🎸
@lookmanostrings
@lookmanostrings 10 ай бұрын
tones are awful, agree
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
Yeah the workflow on this is stellar
@SpikeRockNRoll
@SpikeRockNRoll 10 ай бұрын
Glad to see this release from Fender. With their footprint in the music industry, I'd be surprised if they didn't overtake the modeling market. Their GTX series of Mustang amps sound awesome.
@0megalul309
@0megalul309 10 ай бұрын
they can't beat fractal, esp at 1700 usd. The inherent harshness of their amp modelling hurts my ears
@Ibanezguy2007
@Ibanezguy2007 10 ай бұрын
totally agree. It may sound good at first but never WOW like you get plugging into the real thing. The sound really grates on me after a while and just has no soul in it. The many times I've gigged with modellers its the same horrible, lifeless feeling. @@0megalul309
@hoosierdaddy2308
@hoosierdaddy2308 10 ай бұрын
Great video.. I had a feeling you might be doing this one soon since I saw someone else do a preview of this.. It sounds great, but the price is like the price of an FM3 which I would buy personally instead.. I'd get more amps with an fm3 and more effects and better tone.. Nothing wrong with this, especially if you are interested in Fender clean tones.. Like you though, I live mostly in the high gain world.. More is more.. 😛 Great video / demo sir as always on this channel.. Oh, sorry I had to leave on your live stream a couple days ago.. I actually fell asleep as I had been really busy and worked hard so I had to go to bed and get up early for work. Have a great day my brother and be safe and well sir! Tim
@rockstarjazzcat
@rockstarjazzcat 10 ай бұрын
Hey there Tim. Sweetwater lists this on sale today for the same price as an FM9 in the Fractal shop, $1699. Totally agreed on better value in an FM3mkII Turbo, $1099 new. Can’t tell if the folks trying to crack the market are dealing with high development cost or just trying to insert their shiny objects in next to the leaders.
@hoosierdaddy2308
@hoosierdaddy2308 10 ай бұрын
@@rockstarjazzcat Yeah.. It sure seems over priced to me....
@kevinp_25
@kevinp_25 10 ай бұрын
My biggest question is about routing whether it's capable of running w/d/w with three FRFRs. Especially so with multiple wet effects in parallel with each other.
@aguitarhero007
@aguitarhero007 10 ай бұрын
I feel like the heavy tones have a blanket over them. It doesn’t hold a torch to the Fractal stuff.
@mrchrisbeaver
@mrchrisbeaver 10 ай бұрын
Love the GUI on this
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
Yeah i think this is going to be the standard going forward.
@stevendearden8030
@stevendearden8030 10 ай бұрын
Lovely piece of kit
@70mcnevin
@70mcnevin 10 ай бұрын
Fender needs a SuperSonic 22 model in this. Their own "hard rock" amp with the Fender name would be a big up in my book.
@Wileylikethehawk
@Wileylikethehawk 10 ай бұрын
I really like the layout as a live performer.
@bcancun123
@bcancun123 10 ай бұрын
21:24 You got me sold!
@lreisjesus
@lreisjesus 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video, my first impression was that I wasn't happy with the internal power supply, they tend to cause problems earlier. Even more so in Brazil where there is no technical support.
@victorbicudo1374
@victorbicudo1374 10 ай бұрын
brasil é com S cara
@dustinarnold79
@dustinarnold79 10 ай бұрын
Great demo
@gearhippie
@gearhippie 10 ай бұрын
Great job as usual Leon!
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 10 ай бұрын
Thanks mate :)
@rumy6871
@rumy6871 10 ай бұрын
@Leon Todd Hey Leon, this device is incredible! I can create amp and effects combinations I only dreamed of before. I made a 70s hard rock patch for my les paul. I used instrument series split routing. On the top I have a plexi with a close sm7b and on the bottom line a silver jubilee with the sm7b backed off a bit more. Low to moderate gain for the amps. I have them going to the DAW and panned hard L and R. I am driving it with the blues breaker. For ambience, I have the large plate reverb after each amp. This is the sound of hard rock! A plexi and a silver jub cranking, what a sound, man. For my tele, I made a blues patch with similar routing. However, the amps and effects are different. I have the Bassman on the top row and the Super Reverb on the bottom. I am driving them with my Wampler Pantheon in the loop. For ambience, I have the memory man after the Bassman and have the Super Reverb's tank at 5.5. Eric Clapton city, baby.
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