Les Amants Magnifiques- Entree D'apollon (Lully)

Piece from the movie: Le Roi Danse (The King is Dancing)
Scene at Versailles Palace gardens.
Some Info:
Jean-Baptiste Lully (1632-1687)
Italian-born composer (French nationality from 1661). Entered service of Louis XIV 1653, composed instrumental music for the court ballets. From 1664 collaborated with Molière in series of comedy-ballets which were forerunners of French opera, the last and most famous being Le Bourgeois Gentilhomme, in which Lully danced role of the Mufti.
He was known to be a libertine. In 1661, in letters of naturalization and in his marriage contract to Madeleine Lambert, daughter of Lully's friend and fellow musician Michel Lambert, Giovanni Battista Lulli declared himself as Jean-Baptiste de Lully, escuyer' son of 'Laurent de Lully, gentilhomme Florentin. Although his life is full of meteoric heights, his love affairs with men and women also brought him down in scandal several times at the great displeasure of Louis XIV. Despite these scandals, he always managed to get back into the good graces of Louis XIV who found Lully essential for his musical entertainments and who thought of Lully as one of his few true friends.
Having assimilated both Italian and French styles and tastes, from 1673 he turned to opera composition and obtained from the King exclusive rights to arrange operatic performances in Paris.
His death was caused by a gangrenous abscess which formed in his foot after he struck it with the long staff he used for beating time on the floor while conducting a Te Deum to celebrate Louis XIV's recovery from illness.

[@frenchiecocorico1]

This ballet wasn't danced by King Louis XIV at Versailles but at Saint Germain en Laye because Versailles castle wasn't built yet when the king was twenties. In second place, it isn't really clear that Lully foot gangrenous abscess was due to a stoke he did himself with a beating time cane for two reasons. The first one because it wasn't the use to beat time with a cane in church or for liturgical music and then Lully music was led by another conductor than himself (a disciple).

[@frederiklaureys1516]

VIVE LA FRANCE, LOUIS XIV….JOUISSANCE VOUS DONNERAI…Merci beaucoup…❤❤

[@frenchiecocorico1]

II- “Nation” was a concept well known during the 17th century. Remenber F. Couperin composed a set of Sonatas titled "Les Nations" and Lully himself included an intermezzo "Le Ballet des Nations" in his ballet-opera "Le Bourgeois Gentilhomme".

[@frenchiecocorico1]

Further more, despite Lully was Florentine born and became a french citizen later, he was completly a french musician and composer because he learnt music only with french masters, except few guitar chords learned from a monk in Florence. He claimed himself to be the leader of french baroque music.

[@SirGeorgeofWorcestershire]

Thank you for all the information 👍🏻

[@ernestogo19]

you know where you are on the dark side of the internet when you see a dancing sun speaking french

[@frenchiecocorico1]

I- Lully claimed himself to be first learned in music and some guitar chords by a franciscan friar in Florence. He came at 13 years old in France as the Mlle de Monpensier private teacher of italian, not as a musician. He learned violin and musical theory with the violist Nicolas Métru, harpsichord and composition with the organist and composer François Roberday. In 1653, Lully began at the court of France as a dancer (Baladin), not as a musician.

[@ticarcillin]

just ordered the DVD - thanks for posting!

[@lifeworthliving2010]

magnifique!

[@e21big]

Eclipse!

[@gjc82071]

@ticarcillin Actually, I wanted to thank you again. I still want to see this movie, subtitles or not. Even though I wouldn't buy it, at least I now know it's name. I notice it is posted on youtube in it's entirety. So, I can just watch it there. Thanks again!

[@pauletfromcallao]

tremendo........bravo luis...eres grande!!!

[@adamnoman4658]

Here Comes The Sun The temper of our age requires that its trumpery dress itself in fantastic verisimilitude, and these queer times demands its pound of flesh. But the 15-year-old Louis de Bourbon did not dance half-naked like a noble savage from the New World but a like a savage nobleman of the French court. For the real costume in which he danced at his coming out party, see: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Ballet_de_la_nuit_1653.jpg

[@MsGoldfish1998]

Adam Noman Hello, Louis XIV had this suit for the Ballet Royal de La Nuit, a representation made in 1653 when he was fifteen. This event is represented in the movie, Lully even offers the shoes to his king with an explosive loyalty :) But yes, as a french History student, I agree with you : the King could not dance half-naked in front of his Court !

[@hiworld7306]

@@MsGoldfish1998 he would never have done that he was so strict about the dress code

[@Phersephoie]

It is a ceremonie that was adopted by the French (perhaps the english also I'm not sure) court from the ceremonies Alexander the great did back in hellenistic times and where continued through the Byzantine times till the french Revolution. The King would always present himself as the son of the Sun nd thus his ruller on earth...

[@egonolsen6970]

@Persephoie This custom is even older. As early as 6th Dynasty Egypt (around 2,300 b.c.), the pharaohs used the title "Son of Ra", who was the sun god.

[@venomz_nevrox5045]

Collège frederic bazille en force ! :D

[@venomz_nevrox5045]

+Clerc Florian Parce que notre collège est bien... (c'est faux)

[@frenchiecocorico1]

Jean Baptiste Lully the son of a "Gentilhomme Florentin" (Florentine gentleman) Ah ! Ah ! Ah ! Ah ! Ah ! What a fit of laughter Laurent Lully the father, was a poor miller as it's well known. Then Lully's death circumstances are unsure. First because there was nobody to conduct the orchestra for the religious musical performances in churches. Then Lully was always replaced by an assistant among his pupîls in the orchestra conducting.

[@tetrafantome]

precision about the infos, french nationality from 1661, not 1681, arrived in france when he was thirteen years old.

[@g.k.haggett7462]

Why is Lully conducting with his hands?!? Historically inaccurate!

[@capt_kelris9954]

@wkruit1 Actually, the hunting lodge was build in a swampy forest. Louix XIV dried the swamps and build the castle, but yes, there were swamps before castles.... So on that point, the movie is quite acurate.

[@AlainNaigeon]

It's not a textual course in history, it's a film made of pictures, you now.

[@oltedders]

@@AlainNaigeon Seeing is believing.

[@pattino45]

@@capt_kelris9954 ; Quel giardino fu inaugurato "DOPO" la morte di Lulli!!

[@quentinvanwets3802]

​​@@olteddershen you need to improve your sens of criticism

[@gjc82071]

@ticarcillin Hey, I totally love, & am always looking for any films pertaining to baroque/classical composers (Amadeus, Immortal Beloved, Copying Beethoven, etc). I've never seen/heard of this movie. What is it's name??? & what's it about? The life of Lully perhaps? I see you've ordered the DVD last month, which should have arrived by now. Does it have English subtitles & or an English dub? Please let me know as I would love to add a movie like this to my collection. Thanks!

[@AtaMarKat]

Le Roi Danse.

[@gjc82071]

@@AtaMarKat thanks

[@yevhentyasko28]

what kind of dance it is? is that courant?

[@bsartist3373]

Well, someone just made a royal fool of themselves.

[@frenchiecocorico1]

No, This is untrue. The nationality existed in Louis XIV times but it meant "to live in one's sovereign kingdom and to be its subject". All the french text of the 17th century told about "La nation française". It was the same thing in every european country.. So, Lully wasn't italian originated because Italy didn't exist yet. He was Florentine born. In the 17th century, Florence was a distinct and independant state. Florence made part of the italian states but Italy was just a geographic area

[@frenchiecocorico1]

@bushi835 Yes with Georges Washington help (a british soldier at this time) who asked then assistance to french king Louis XVI during the independance war. This is a good policy !

[@OscarRamirez-os6sc]

Cual es el nombre de la cancion.

[@SuspiciouslyDLicious]

oh, okay - you forgot to use the sarcasm emoticon. Touche as far as the painting of Apollo, very good call. Still, even though I'm whipped, i still say he would not've shown his very pasty, pale and decidedly UN-gym-toned bod, but as it's a movie: HAWT!

[@JaythePandaren]

boy Lully is raging. was it because his music went wrong or he had hurt the king with his music?

[@frenchiecocorico1]

I- Rather than you are french like me I will reply in english to keep my answer intelligible for everyone. First, "Nation" is a notion as old as mankind being. In a clear way, it is the "community of people native into the same place" (identical root for nation & native). "Nation" socles are founded on various rules, alone or combined, (race, language, tribes, government, destiny, ...) which fluctuated as the times and the countries changed in the past and today.

[@hellokittysayshi]

where can one see this movie? its not on netflix......

[@ticarcillin]

@gjc82071 So whatever - enjoy it on youtube then, it's simply gorgeous. I; too, would prefer an edition with ENGLISH subtitles since it is far easier for me to understand :-)

[@frenchiecocorico1]

Certainly not I am right. Lully was florentine born so in these times Florence was an independant state with its own language far different from Roman, Napolitan or Milanese,.... Italian (Roman language) was not yet an official language in all the italian peninsula. Each region spoke its own language. This was the same in France (provençal, occitan, picard,...) or in Germany (Saxon, Prussian, ...) and in all the European countries. Italy wasn't yet a unified country but a geographical area.

[@mathiaswiese5412]

Stil und Klasse, leider heute undenkbar.

[@tetrafantome]

j'ai juste repris la formule de "peteronfire" (inadéquate je vous l'accorde) pour rétablir les faits et dates (ce qui me parait être la moindre des choses quand on donne des infos historiques), sans entrer dans un débat aussi stupide à mes yeux qu'aux vôtres. seule son oeuvre importe et non pas son origine géographique. avec le recul j'aurai mieux fait de m'abstenir. (je me permet de vous répondre car j'ai reçu votre commentaire par mail !?, service youtube sans doute).

[@frenchiecocorico1]

II- Provence where I live, is a region next door Italy where there are still three different languages (tuscan, genoese, romansh). They are regional languages and not local variants of italian (dialects). These languages are not comprehensive each others. In Italy a Sicilian can't understand the tuscan language, etc... French people knows well the french island of Corsica with Genoese language can't be understood as the standard italian. Have you other idiotic lessons to give me ?

[@Glosuraban]

so the performer guy is the sun king? I didn't know that kings performed for their subjects back then, or ever.....except emperor Nero.

[@selmahare]

They didn’t. Louis did!

[@carloscifre4262]

Le soleil...brillait.il...avec le roi..?moi jaurai eu...froid.😊

[@dreuxschwartz]

that guy was lully

[@credenza1]

Which film is this please?

[@zaldygallardojr.322]

"The King Dances" (in French: "Le Roi Danse"; 2000)

[@hubbapop1]

whats the name of the film???

[@lorenzo-qp7eu]

Le Roi Danse

[@Humanophage]

You're not saying the French weren't French before the Revolution, are you? The concept of nation only didn't exist in its French Revolution interpretation, which is but one and not the most adequate definition. For instance, even the name of the Heiliges Romisches Reich Deutcher Nation reflected the HRE being German, and it was known as that long before Louis XIV.

[@truenorthcorn]

why is louis XIV so nervous

[@frenchiecocorico1]

III- On a second hand, it's illogical to pretend “nation” a modern notion and then to assert Italy was nearly a nation during Lully's times ! In these times, Italy as Germany or Balkans was no more than a geographic area formed by a mosaic of independant states and principalities with their own language, history, administration and culture (Sicilian, Neapolitan or Florentine were far to be different and still remain to be even today).

[@SuspiciouslyDLicious]

Oh, okay - you forgot to use the sarcasm emoticon. Good call on the Apollo painting - I know the very one. Touche! And, although i'm pussywhipped, i still say he would not've shown his decidedly pasty-pale UN-Soloflexed bod to court, but as it is just a movie: HAWT!

[@SuspiciouslyDLicious]

Oh, okay - you forgot to use the sarcasm emoticon. Good call on the Apollo painting - i know the very one. Touche! And, even though i was pussywhipped, I still protest that he never would've shown his decidedly pasty-pale UN-Soloflexed bod to court. But, since it is just a movie, i say: HAWT!

[@sharhu]

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[@gjc82071]

@ticarcillin Yea, but I'm just an ignorant, uni-lingual (English speaking only) American, LOL. What I mean is, without English subtitles, it would probably end up becoming frustrating/annoying to me. Damn it. It looks good too. Oh well, maybe someday it will be released with subtitles. Yea, & in the mean time I can wish in 1 hand, poop in the other, & see which fills up 1st, hahaha. Oh well. Anyway, even though the news is discouraging, I thank you for taking the time to inform me. {:oD

[@weddinganejakopp]

S'il restait dans les arts de danser, le roi de soleil au lieu de devaster ma patrimoine la Eifel plustard pendant la guerre palatinoise. Sale Louis XIV

[@stevenschalk3601]

Apprenez à converser sans faute au lieu de critiquer les heures glorieuses de nôtre Histoire , et daigner par la même occasion à prendre connaissance de celle ci , car en aucun cas vous êtes disposé à la juger !

[@sirupeuse]

I dont want to interfere in the stupid "Lully was french or italian" discussion. But i want to say it didnt exist before the french revolution a concept of "nationality". A man was subject of a king, for Lully you right, he became subject of Louis XIV in 1661, at the age of 29.

[@frenchiecocorico1]

IV- At least, Etruria never represented the ancient civilization of the whole italian peninsula but only the Campany's one

[@frenchiecocorico1]

Why did you delete yours commentaries after publishing ? Are you ashamed about what you assert ?

[@filiplazarevic2104]

wtf

[@sirupeuse]

Je suis désolé de ne pas partager ton point de vue. Je suis républicain et anti monarchiste. Je crois que la France a payé le prix fort entre 1789 et 1815 pour être profondément républicaine. La république a apporté à notre pays et au monde bien plus que 1000 ans de royauté. Ceci dit, je respecte tes opinions, tant qu'aucune insulte n'ait été proférée. Salutations.

[@speedfilmvf7403]

Personne est dieu sur cette terre ( tout à fait )

[@sebastienjulien5995]

on dirait Macron

[@Lardenoy]

Louis XIV a protégé les arts ! Macron détruit et démantèle la France et interdit aux artistes de travailler. En revanche sur son lit de mort Louis XIV regretta "d'avoir trop aimé la guerre", c'était un chrétien qui regrettait ses fautes alors que notre Jupiter de carton pâte à déclaré la guerre au soi-disant peuple souverain.. Dieu merci la chute est proche !

[@JoelvanLennep]

I wonder if Louis was ever really this pathetic.

[@sirupeuse]

Sans doute effectivement une erreur, je ne vous ai rien envoyé. Nous sommes tout à fait d'accord pour dire que seule compte l'oeuvre de Lully. Mais, en tant que passionné d'histoire, je ne peux accepter une conception de "nationalité" avant la révolution française.