Lessons From Paleoclimatology

[@johnbaxter189]

Thanks Roger for Ur dedication. Proof is proof. Truth is truth. Well done chap.

[@rogerandtom7719]

Areas of extreme altitude, like the Antarctic Ice cap have a distinctly and unique pattern of glaciation. The Specific ice core from the Karakoram region may tell this unique story. The Himalayan area in general has been called the third pole of the earth of a reason. The age of the ice present at the poles and Himalayas is older than other alpine glaciation in the world.

[@Turbohh]

Excellent. Thank you.

[@stephenbrown9998]

Superb thank you

[@tallinthesaddle1727]

How do you silence a climate change alarmist? Ask them this question: What is the proper amount of atmospheric CO2...They have no answer. First it was air pollution, then it was global warming, now it’s climate change. In the ’70’s air pollution was going to blot out the sun and put us into an ice age and mass starvation. We were also going to run out of oil. Many claims were made by the (well funded) “experts” that never happened. Then the (well funded) “expert” climate watchdogs transitioned into frightening claims about global warming. They ignored climate history showing warmer global temperatures before the industrial age showing no human cause and effect to temperatures but never the less tried to convince us with their inaccurate computer predictions . Now we have (well funded) “experts” telling us the weather system is broken and using the term “climate change” to prove it. What did climate do before it changed? Here’s the problem as I see it. Humanity has been subjected to over fifty years of (well funded) “expert” claims that didn’t happen. Have any of those spewing lies ever been held accountable? No. They continue on (well funded) unabated. Here’s where I think this whole scene needs to go. Funding stops until claims are specifically defined, measured and verified, the climate change alarmists must describe exactly what is wrong with the climate, how they know that, can prove it with verifiable testing (isn’t that how real science works?) before humanity is deprived of the many benefits of fossil fuel just because they say so. Have they said what the proper amount of atmospheric CO2 should be? No. How will they prove the number they decide on will fix climate change? How will anyone know when climate change has been fixed? There seems to be no scientific method at work here only assumptions, emotional warnings and ultimatums. Could billions of dollars in grant money prompt someone to say something they don’t really believe and can’t prove? Folks there are too many unanswered questions to take any of this seriously. Anybody remember Biosphere? It was a 200 million dollar controlled environment for 8 people designed by “experts” and was a colossal failure after only 2 years. Do you really believe “experts” can fix Earth’s weather system? What could possibly go wrong?

[@climatecraze]

Or tell them we are still thawing out from the Little Ice Age ... www.climatecraze.com/pix/SolarCycles.jpg

[@UnknownPascal-sc2nk]

To a denier, how much is too much CO2? Answer: as much as the oil companies can pump, sell and burn. Exxon's own research was buried 50 years ago.

[@georgepotts7652]

Hmm…interesting. Could you provide the list of peer reviewed scientific studies that you drew your data from?

[@costrio]

It seems to me that two "La Nina" events followd by an "El Nino" event can cause atmospheric disturbances too. Reference 2022, 23 and 24 (to May) When the temperature of the ocean not only regains back to zero change but continues on to a maximum gain, then it covers double a normal temperature change. Like being overdrawn by $5 dollars in my bank account so I deposit $10 to cover it. The change was from minus 5 to plus 5 and the difference was 10 from both extremes. I expect there will be more hurricanes and tornadoes as a result of this sudden change rather then the amount of CO2 upon our weather. Yes, it's weather, IMO. I first heard about El Nino in the seveties and they complained about frozen oranges in Florida. Every El Nino has similar complaints. The media is a cycle too?

[@PaulHigginbothamSr]

After Thomas's talk I am completely lost pertaining to weather. All I know is that in 51 we skied off the roof of the house. My father let me drive sitting in his lap a new shiny red pickup truck. The snow was nearly up to the wires as I swerved from side to side. In 48 hours it snowed 7 ft on my fathers ruler. It no longer does this and now I don't know why.

[@marcobsomer5574]

pourquoi si peu de vues pour une vidéo aussi intéressante ? Merci pour ce très bel exposé.

[@costrio]

I've noticed at 39:02 that the UK seems to be unaffected by the ENSO changes in rainfall. So, why are they always complaining about the weather? ;-)

[@FonsecaStatter]

Thank you so very much... So much information to «digest»...

[@xtremelemon8612]

Hello Tom and Roger, Thank you it was really interesting. I was wondering according to future continental drift models how this 2.5 millions years long ice age will evolve in the long run. Will glaciations keep getting deeper and more severe in the future or will we start to slowly come out of this in the next few millions years? Im asking especially for the northern hemisphere, which seems to be more complicated. For the South, as long as Antarctica stays there which it should for quite some time It will stay cold I believe.

[@rogerandtom7719]

Australia continues to drift north and compress the subduction zones that run through the passages in Indonesia. Greater closing seems to be in the cards but slowly, as in geologic time. Re-openings do not appear to be possible in the near term. The Default is to lower temperatures. The general loss of energy / heat from the 5 million year ice core data we reviewed in the video, has a continuing downward trend on the 100,000 year cycle basis shown. The Holocene temperature decline, as reviewed, seems to illustrate a gradual decline punctuated by 1 degree spikes and troughs. The Rates of change are quite consistent and the areas of Change quite abrupt. There are cycles that are surprisingly predictable in rate of change; we do not fully understand them but need to intensely study and not neglect them. It seems that we have passed the Optimum of Temperature during the Holocene already. Science calls it the Neo-Glacial for the reasons we have outlined. Interestingly, a global change of sea level during significant 100,000 year glacial cycles can open or close ( restrict) current circulation across narrow shallow connections near the equator as in Indonesia/ Australia. This data might be seen, in the very recent / (latest million years) of bottom sediments, and calls for badly needs work. Does a low sea level close or restrict the Indonesia /Australian straits, even promoting greater cooling of the deepening Glaciation?

[@xtremelemon8612]

@@rogerandtom7719 thank you. And indeed you are right I believe, the lowering of the sea lvl during glacial inceptions should be more investigated cause it obviously has immense effects, also simply because exposure of more land increases the albedo of the planet overall, and then even more when that new land gets covered in ice.

[@brenb8897]

Outstanding. Thank You very much.

[@DrSmooth2000]

This the introductory person who i think it is?

[@costrio]

It is estimated that after the Younger Dryas period the population of humans was dangerously low at about 10,000 people, according to some claims that I've read. I am hoping that should we descent into another cold period, that we have enough techonlogical know how to adapt. I remember a time in Canada where some industries shut down in winter until they developed quick drying cement that didn't get ruined by freezing temperatures. There was a "CBC" jingle that sang, "Why Wait for Spring -- Do it Now." (a catchy jingle -- kudos to the author, IMO) We gonna need "fossil fuels" at some point, I think. Are some people "hoarding such already," I wonder. ;)

[@ccoorryygg]

Thanks Roger. I was not fooled and figured this co2 bs out many years ago. 73

[@evanpenny348]

Bugger! And I heard that the the Earth was going the hell and gone in a hand basket. Seriously though, great presentation, and thanks for that. Respect from nz

[@mountainman9145]

It is a pity that continental drift and even Milankovitch cycles happen over time frames (the former billions of years and the latter thousands of years) too long to sway the current climate change narrative. In terms of the current debate, one very relevant and undeniable fact that can be noted from this study is that CO2 and rising temperature are not correlated - this must surely send the modelers back to the drawing board.