Let me help you escape the endless scroll

[@ronanclark2129]

Many people think this is a new problem, but scrolls are actually an ancient technology

[@Linkard]

Just because it's ancient tech doesn't mean it can't be a problem ! Mushrooms are ancient, but there are a lot of poisonous ones that will kill me if I eat them

[@Jottagelado]

Some may say they the scrolls are kinda Elder

[@rmt3589]

​@@JottageladoFus Ro Dah!

[@MrBeklager]

Its more the short attention span and constant stimuly that is the problem

[@spoonsweet]

KZbin gold

[@tamaryny]

The little moving animals in the background are so helpful with my burnt attention span

[@realityChemist]

It's Webfishing!

[@Linkard]

Haha yeah, these guys were great. They're all other players! As someone already said, the game is Webfishing, and I definitely recommend it.

[@LuciSheppyLive]

That's it, you're a furry now

[@reptiliannoizezz.413]

​@@LuciSheppyLive Lol. ONE OF US, ONE OF US

[@rejectconvenience]

Ah, this reminds me of my favorite quote: "This video made me stay on the KZbin platform for 10 years and made me want to buy the greatest products that were advertised before and after it, and thems are facts for sure". I've been saying that for a hundred years I tell you what.

[@Linkard]

@rejectconvenience for sure, you've said this exact thing in basically all of your videos

[@TrizziEhgan]

Recognizing the PFP as the first comment made me want to touch faster than I could

[@Deley18]

I just realized as I finished the video... This video is about making websites to escape the doom of endless scrolling, the background B-roll footage is from WEBFISHING. We're "web fishing" some indie websites that don't suck. (Or at the very least, fishing for a site that doesn't involve doom scrolling.)

[@Linkard]

😉

[@tofokyo]

actually jaw dropped when I saw my site used as an example TOT

[@Linkard]

Your website is great ! I'm glad I was able to showcase it :) I'm definitely excited as well, I want to see more creativity on the web. This video is my way of trying to accelerate the process !

[@RandonInsanity]

(adds this to my watch later)

[@Linkard]

I have a dedicated "Watch Later" playlist because the default one got maxed out, and when it does I can't "Save" a video to a playlist because the menu won't open on mobile (fun fact)

[@RandonInsanity]

@ i wonder why Watch later is a playlist instead of a list that shows up in your home screen at the end of a video or something that you can remove watch later being a playlist is weird its basically Guarantees that people will probably will bot watch or stubble on that video again

[@to1ex]

I have so many videos there already that they won't get added sometimes (although maybe it's just my internet acting up) (also i know about 5000 videos limit, i had to remove already watched videos from it a somewhat long time ago)

[@VoidCael]

I feel like some videos I add to watch later straight up disappear randomly, even if I added them somewhat recently, so I don't trust it like I used to

[@NEON69420]

I did the same exact thing

[@GameJam230]

The idea that an algorithm can show me what I want to see when I’m actively stuck in a loop of scrolling because I literally don’t know what I want to see is completely silly. It’s constructed to keep me in that loop. If I got what I wanted and felt satisfied, I wouldn’t still be scrolling.

[@vespver9652]

4:35 THANK YOU FOR DEFINING IT RIGHT!!! I’m sick of fear mongering definitions, it’s really just that simple.

[@Linkard]

Thank you ! Defining and using terms correctly is something I take very seriously, and I am also tired of the fear mongering. I'm glad you enjoyed it :)

[@midtown6974]

I was thinking about this earlier today. I really hate all this new 'algorithm' stuff, from youtube recommends to social media feeds and even "windows suggested apps/files". They say it's "trying to guess what you want next", but what it does is take away all agency and proactivity from the user. They don't want you to sit down at your computer and think "hmm, now what should I do?" It wants to step in and tell you what to do.

[@Linkard]

Yep ! They don't want you to do any thinking. They want you to outsource your thinking to their services, so that you rely on them to... Think, basically. Or rather, to exist, but without thinking. They want you to react, not think.

[@Vennele]

That's so correct.

[@bigprovola]

Using the sidebar feels like treading water in open ocean. When the engagement hooks randomly change every time you navigate past a page, there is an information asymmetry that influences the user to hoard queued videos.

[@thatunknownone]

Very good video, I'm yearning for more "indieweb" / maker vids like this. (webfishing bg is so fitting tbh)

[@Linkard]

@@thatunknownone me too ! I really want more people to talk about and start being a part of the indie web

[@ImWeirdAndILikeIt]

Reject Convenience recommended your video and it was definitely worth the watch! Makes me want to get back to learning basic coding 🤔

[@Linkard]

@@ImWeirdAndILikeIt Definitely do it ! I'm super glad you enjoyed watching it 😁

[@mor5964]

I was feeling a little hopeless with how things are going, with how everything is works related to social media and the isolationist society we sadly keep pushing forwards to, but knowing that there are still lots of people out there craving human connection, human creativity and human expression makes me feel a bit warmer. Thank you for this video :)

[@Linkard]

Never forget that the oligarchs WANT you to be doomer about the state of things. The billionaires WANT you to feel like there's nothing you can do, so that the algorithm can do the thinking for you. Never give in to their anti-human nature. The human species has always survived and kept pushing forward.

[@AROAH]

I fully agree with almost everything in this video, but I really think everyone misunderstands the Subscribe button. It adds that channel to your Subscriptions tab, where you can see every video uploaded by the channels you subscribe to, chronologically. I do agree that the notifications are inconsistent at best, but you can easily go through your subscriptions by not exclusively browsing your Home feed. Additionally, I’m not a paid shill, but I am a shill for Kagi. It’s a paid search engine, and it’s absolutely incredible. It does a fantastic job of labeling listicles and AI-generated slop, and you can even block certain websites from showing up in your results, which directly impacts the quality of everyone’s results. It’s a crazy idea to pay for search, but it’s seriously just that good.

[@Linkard]

I do partially agree, I talk about it in a part I actually cut from the video, I'll copy paste that part of the script here : "And yes, there is the subscriber tab, but if you’re like me, you’re subscribed to way too many channels, because subscribing became a lot less important than it used to be, so you subscribed way more often. Because subscribing to someone doesn’t mean their videos will pop up for you, and not subscribing doesn’t mean you won’t be shown their videos. I tried using my subscriber tab for weeks, but ultimately I just couldn’t do it. I spent weeks unsubscribing from people and it was still a lot less helpful than the home tab" And Kagi sounds interesting. Definitely expensive, but interesting !

[@andream8655]

Genuinely, human evaluation of art + media is so important to me. As someone who's trying to consume less and appreciate more, writing about the indie comics and zines I read makes me hope I can put someone on to something that really inspired me!! Sharing media with all of the Internet, account or not, commenter or not, lurkers and all, that's what information is for !!!!!

[@dreadcircumference]

been sayin it for years we gotta go back to web 1.0

[@garpejio]

Really good video!! Especially love the ending where you show off your site even though it's still in progress - not enough people do that, and it's very encouraging haha (although I have to say it also looks awesome so far!)

[@Linkard]

Thanks ! Yeah, unlike what we see online, things don't have to be polished and finished all the time. Not at all

[@Linkard]

Edit : Finished re-writting the description ! So I wrote a whole description with all the links and everything, and just now realized that because of KZbin auto-save shenanigans, I needed to do it all over again. So I'm re-writting the description right now!

[@johnny.s_18]

At 5:47 I‘m failing miserably to get onto that stone, damn… Great Video!

[@Linkard]

@@johnny.s_18 thanks again, it looked great for the video ! 😉

[@Minilena]

0:40 the subscription feed is where everyone should go! It's right there quite close to the home feed button, both on mobile and desktop. No algorithm at all, just your subscribed channels' uploads in chronological order :)

[@Linkard]

I'll share here a part of the script I filmed and took out of the video later :) "And yes, there is the subscriber tab, but if you’re like me, you’re subscribed to way too many channels, because subscribing became a lot less important than it used to be, so you subscribed way more often. Because subscribing to someone doesn’t mean their videos will pop up for you, and not subscribing doesn’t mean you won’t be shown their videos. I tried using my subscriber tab for weeks, but ultimately I just couldn’t do it. I spent weeks unsubscribing from people and it was still a lot less helpful than the home tab"

[@Minilena]

@Linkard Awh, I'm sorry it doesn't work for you! I guess I have reached a sweet spot with my subscribed channels - I can mostly keep up with what's there and mark longer stuff for watching later

[@partypiggaming9344]

Thank you front page of KZbin. This is what I want to see :)

[@Linkard]

I agree, thank you front page ! I'm glad you enjoyed the video

[@Nugget111uh1]

I recently rejoined an old website that I used to use when I was younger and hasn't changed much from its inception as basically Newgrounds for kids. The culture on the site has definitely changed and it has a rudimentary algorithm mostly for showing what the community is loving/favoriting (basically a public bookmark) but a lot of it still feels very old. It's very cool that you can still find a lot of the really old creators' classic projects and rewatch/replay them to this day, so it feels more ancient in ways than it really is.

[@fishsticxz]

really dig the editing on this, the outline around you, the webfishing gameplay on the bg, the music. i've been seeing stuff about neocities and indie web and guides for it, and maybe i'll try to make my own site sometime if inspiration strikes

[@wasserkatze7822]

i should pick my started neocities page back up, i really like the idea of sharing my favorite channels there (even if maybe nobody but me looks at them, i am also a collector at heart :D)

[@Linkard]

Do it!

[@JustaFloatingEye]

I miss the old internet, surfing the web and exploring to find interesting websites. And neocities is here to BRING, THAT, BACK!!

[@Linkard]

Agreed !

[@brwlers]

happy to see more indieweb promotion going around. great video!

[@rmt3589]

Making my own search engine is one of my goals for this year.(Not from scratch) If neocities has a search engine, I definitely want to add those results into the results of mine. Indie web sounds so cool!

[@JB8108_]

2:44 "modern KZbin has a very strong far right bias" I don't think that's true. Conservatives will say that social media is overwhelmingly Liberal and Liberals will say social media is overwhelmingly Conservative. An algorithm that wants to make you angry could make it seem like you're the minority and the platform is against your side. What someone should do is make a new account that is "far right" and one that is "far left" and see which videos they get served. Or maybe run a poll, "Do you feel like you're in the political/social minority on social media?"

[@theirishbreese7967]

I recommend this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGSahqF6lryAhKssi=s5Mz0fkzrFWeG9qG Not as an ultimate source or “checkmate” or “gotcha” but just as one example of how youtube shorts will recommend far-right content, or at least begin the pipeline, when left to its own devices. This video factors in location, using several different cities around the USA to rerun the experiment and getting vastly different results depending on the political tendencies of a given city.

[@Linkard]

Thanks for watching the video and leaving a comment ! I very much disagree, from experiments I've seen and from personal experience with my main and secondary accounts. This is also not just true for youtube but social media in general, especially now. However, seeing that this comment was written in good faith, I think I might respond to it in video form (on my second channel) :)

[@alface935]

If You need to discover some Music I have a Playlist call "Music Playlist" where I have videos from KZbin/Music that I like listen to Just use the Shuffle button and have fun discovering new music I also have a Playlist call "Do Not Forget It" where I put videos from KZbin that I like, Important to Me, Useful to Me, That I do not want to forget, Videos I remember watching in My Childhood etc Just use the Shuffle button and have fun And yes You Must use the Shuffle button because I set both of thoses Playlist to be in Date Published (Oldest) order which makes a lot of harder to browse through but it does look organised and that is what matters to Me

[@Linkard]

I do the same thing !

[@alface935]

@Linkard That is so cool!

[@powderpuffarpeggio3968]

Awesome video, nice job! I feel inspired to create now.

[@Linkard]

Go for it !

[@joseoh5856]

I really like the way you wrote that video :] truly peak

[@joseoh5856]

Also great music choises

[@Linkard]

@joseoh5856 thank you ! :)

[@youokboi8556]

My KZbin recently has been filled with people telling the viewer to create things and I always feel bad because I like never actually make something lol

[@Faunadude]

I saw penelope and instantly clicked

[@amalgamidol]

great video! excited to see the resources you provide over time

[@Linkard]

Thanks ! The description was busted and I had to rewrite it, but I already added a free Neocities-like webhost that I remember exists :) Don't hesitate to come back later to check out the description ! If someone gives good suggestions in the comments I'll definitely add them

[@reade_me]

I see neocities logo, i click, a simple rule

[@-veroni101-]

the "made by humans for humans" resonates with me, it's been awhile since i have been on any self-made webs. glad this is getting more popular again! also did i hear a song from the hotline miami ost there? nice music choices

[@Linkard]

You did ! It's the track "Daisuke" :) I always put the music tracks that I use in the video's description I'm glad it resonated with you ! I'm super tired of the growing artificial vibe of the web. I want to see things made by humans

[@MMMercia]

I feel like the large focus on creating websites as a solution might be confusing for someone who's more interested in just browsing them instead.

[@arxns]

3:55 there are bots on reddit that make posts and comments so thats not true unfortunately (unless the post is from like 4+ years ago)

[@Linkard]

Yep... Still, there's more chance that something on reddit will have been written by a human (compared to any other website found with google searches), and you can usually parse out the bot posts on reddit... But yeah, no website is safe. The bots are getting very VERY elaborate

[@apia46]

the problem then is how do you find other humans that have recommendations?

[@Linkard]

Some of the websites/urls I show are a good place to start ! You can visit websites like "Star Subculture" (link in the description). Additionally, a lot of websites on neocities have links to other websites. Websites like mine are also part of a webring (look at the bottom of any page), meaning that if you click on the arrows, you can navigate to the website before and after in the webring

[@elslonebrook4708]

Loved the video!

[@Linkard]

Thank you :)

[@fireye3]

What's the website URL? :)

[@Linkard]

@@fireye3 which one, mine? Everything's in the description, and/or on screen in the video! 🙂 My website is linkardonline.com

[@Linkard]

Turns out the description was busted ! It should be good now :)

[@machpower3074]

Guys downald my app or the app that pay me to solve this problem 😤

[@fatinesafsaf3016]

Great video

[@Linkard]

Thanks !

[@KazmirRunik]

I'd better be able to click on people's names here after a month and see links to their Web pages on their KZbin profiles.

[@BobStever]

Hey I think you forgot to link these websites in the description!

[@Linkard]

Turns out that I wrote the entire description... But then, because an earlier version of the video was open in another tab, it ended up saving the earlier version of the description... Long story short : it's fixed now !

[@BobStever]

@ yay

[@xyphoxdemon]

wow what the fuck im hear early, extremely thoughtful approach to the topic, good ass vid

[@Linkard]

Thank you!!

[@irislemon3474]

and u can link to /other/ websites & blogs that u like on yours, if you have one!!

[@Linkard]

True ! Definitely on my "to do" list for the website :)

[@Jr837_]

aw man i thought this was gonna be a webfishing video...

[@nascentspace]

Jacob Geller mention yayyyyy

[@BDLittleOldMe]

Hi there thank you.❤

[@Linkard]

Thank you for watching the video :)

[@ImAGreenBean570]

I try to just stop scrolling at the first ad

[@whirlpooltunes]

Good vid!

[@Linkard]

Good comment!

[@ghcfuj77557]

Hey, that doesn’t look like atlyss gameplay in the background, your behind old timer!, btw, my iPad Pro 2015 appreciates your 4:3 aspect ratio a lot

[@Linkard]

It's definitely on my list of games to play ! And there's a way in game to hide the hud, it might even appear in a video

[@ailemasyn3824]

Why is there no links in description?

[@Linkard]

I wrote a whole description with everything, including all the links... But I had multiple tabs open with this video's description in multiple stages of completion. So, it deleted all the progress. I'm fixing it now! EDIT: it's fixed !

[@Pedroverso.oficial]

How the FREAK you do that white thing around your budy

[@chaossmith3864]

Fam I watched one TWD video and couldn't get it to stop spamming my feed with TWD videos for a while, even with trying to fix it by deliberately looking for and watching other videos. Yep the algorithm is absolutely busted and its nit showing me what I want to see. Maybe 1/4 of what pops up has anything to do with what I watch at most usually. But the depression scrolling is real. Sometimes i have no idea what I want to watch, just what I don't, until I see something that catches my eye. It's... Frustrating. I hate my brain lol

[@MichaelChin1994]

What's the game in the background?

[@user-qw9yf6zs9t]

webfishing

[@MichaelChin1994]

@@user-qw9yf6zs9t Thank you!!!

[@blue9070]

I like the channels you recommend on your website, but i couldnt help but notice they seem to be almost exclusively men (and white men, for the channels that show their face). There's a lot of really cool women and poc making content so I'd love to see more variety of channels there!

[@Linkard]

Thanks for the comment ! I completely get what you mean :) But I share who I watch ! I know that there's women KZbinrs I'm missing, like Savy writes books, The Jimquisition, Contrapoints, Lily Alexander.... But with this list you can be sure that I'll never just share another creator just to make myself look like a "better" more "progressive person", you know ? "I'd love to see more variety of channels there" : why not make your own list ? That's the point of the video :) You can then recommend channels that you think are underappreciated, for example. If you do, make sure to send me an email with the link to your website !

[@chlorophyll1415]

5:00 (𓁹 𓁹)

[@cubicinfinity2]

It should really be called follow, not subscribe.

[@SemiIocon]

🐎

[@Linkard]

@@SemiIocon 🗂️

[@logolept]

Thank you for the link, but I will not come to this playhead more.

[@Катюща-й9ч]

this is one of those annoying videos that withholds the information as long as possible so they can get ad revenue. Plus the "solution" itself is another ad.

[@Linkard]

No? I don't put midroll ads (ads in the middle of the video) in my videos because I don't like them. And I am not sponsored by any service listed, and there are no affiliated links. Please watch less short-form videos, it's hindering your ability to critically analyze media. Not everything needs to be 60 seconds long.

[@kokorochacarero8003]

The subscription tab is literally the "Here's the videos you want to watch" section That FEED is literally the only part of youtube that gives the user some AGENCY over what they get FED Stop being a slave to the algorithm on the home page USE. THE SUBSCRIPTIONS. TAB MAKE. YOUR OWN. CHOICES

[@Linkard]

Well... Here's why I disagree. I originally filmed this part of the script, but took it out, so that the video would flow better : "And yes, there is the subscriber tab, but if you’re like me, you’re subscribed to way too many channels, because subscribing became a lot less important than it used to be, so you subscribed way more often. Because subscribing to someone doesn’t mean their videos will pop up for you, and not subscribing doesn’t mean you won’t be shown their videos. I tried using my subscriber tab for weeks, but ultimately I just couldn’t do it. I spent weeks unsubscribing from people and it was still a lot less helpful than the home tab"