Let's Talk about Animals

Philosophy meets animals and art.
Includes discussion of Deleuze, Derrida, Levinas, Lyotard. Also includes Thomas Nagel and Jakob von Uexkull.

[@perryperrychicken11]

Absolutely fascinating

[@follonica1]

Thanks.

[@Ishkah]

Great video, I'm familiar with these concepts through Martha Nussbaum's capabilities approach and Cora Diamond's interest in intuitional duties. . Which animal rights campaigns do you think are most effective? I like food not bombs stalls and foraging groups, as well as tree sits and road blockades to stop over-hunting and clearfelling. . Also what vegan arguments do you think are most persuasive? I think ‘name the trait’ works well, then my own interest is in social virtue ethics and nihilist arguments: . *1) General Purpose - Name The Trait* . Basically it asks what would be the ethical implications for humans if we used the same justifications that meat eaters use for how we treat animals. . 1. Would you prefer not to kill a human for food if you could easily access and eat plant food? . 2. Would you prefer not to kill a non-human animal for food if you could easily access and eat plant food? . 3. If you answered that you’re not ok with killing humans for food and you are ok with killing non-human animals for food, what trait is true of the animal that would let you feel justified in killing animals. And, if that became true of humans, would you then feel justified in killing humans if you could easily eat and had access to plant food in either scenario? . *2) Virtue Ethics - Respect for Animal Capabilities* . If the wonder that we experience in viewing wild animals is not 'how similar to us they are', but their 'real opportunities to do and be what they have reason to value' and one sufficient reason we grant this freedom at least to a basic extent to humans is they have a desire to achieve what they find valuable then; the fact non-human animals experience this desire too means we ought extend these freedoms to animals. . So, a holistic world-view of not wanting to reduce both the quality and quantity of positive experiences humans can have with animals, as well as animals with other animals for low-order pleasures such as taste/texture. . *3) Nihilist Ethics - Property Rights for Animals* . If you desire the ability to live a full life on your property because it satisfies a desire you have to meet your basic needs and you’re in favour of guardianship laws to protect this ability for severely mentally disabled people in court because they can't defend themselves then; you should really desire non-human animals who also have these needs have a legal right to their wild habitat as property and should enjoy guardianship laws which protects their legal rights in court through appointment of a guardian to represent the case of one or a group of animals unless another reason is specified on pain of living in bad faith. . This centres the discussion on how you may be excluding other groups because it's the social norm. If there's one norm that unites nihilists in their rejection of universalist ethics, it's that of the desire to live authentically, so not acting in a way you don't believe due to outside social pressures, like that acting without compassion is necessary to what it means to be a man.