Let's talk about Colin Kaepernick | Chart Party

A common argument we hear these days is that Colin Kaepernick isn't good enough to play in the NFL. This is absolutely not true.
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“Here are 300 more dots” -Is there a sentence that could ever describe chart party more perfectly than that?

[@crisis8v88]

"Here are hundreds of Bobs."

[@12packersfan]

By retiring at 29, Andrew Luck pretty much breaks every statistic involving age in this vid

[@decdeclanlan]

He doesn’t count like all the others that didn’t count because they retired voluntarily or from injuries.

[@wanderlustwarrior]

Except for the ones that directly showed Kaepernick was better than Luck and any other then-active quarterback, such as at: 4:08 4:13 5:10 Kaep fares a little worse in the graph at 5:40, but still better than that guy and that guy and...

[@TheAveimperator47]

@@ahsbaseball17 I would argue that Kaep no longer being in the league is pretty much entirely about politics, both on his part and the league's

[@JonPITBZN]

@Ben Schocket-Greene, I don't think pointing out that Luck retired of his own free will is a criticism of Luck. He just belongs in a different category. He's a gray dot like Locker and Orton, albeit an objectively superior gray dot. If Luck decided he wanted to play again there would be 15, probably 20 teams that would take him in a heartbeat. Kaepernick wanted to sign and nobody signed him.

[@franknitti9126]

And?

[@hawkkn1220]

Hey yall, I worked out every other day for the last two weeks and worked out ten times. Hope this helps.

[@johnappleseed6210]

YORE WRONG!!1! I WORKED OUT EVERY DAY FOR THE PAST 2 WEEKS AND I WORKED OUT 12 TIMES!

[@hawkkn1220]

John Appleseed o man!!!

[@hamslammoney2975]

@Ancient Hawkk wait what won’t u have worked out seven times

[@hawkkn1220]

hamslam money It is a reference to an old video lol

[@CrustyTheElf]

ahhhh throwback thursday

[@Erinxh]

5:28 'And this guy, right in the middle of it can't get a job.' I was looking at Cam Newton's name when you said that. What a coincidence.

[@roguishpaladin]

Welp, he has one now. I think I would've preferred Kaepernick to Newton, given how few interceptions Kaep gives up and how well that would work with the Patriots, but we'll see how it pans out.

[@N279]

@@roguishpaladin not a bad start

[@Morizzoo]

@@N279 I’d disagree with that now lol

[@gmatsue84]

And look where he got us... I remember Kaep playing incredibly bad and thinking we was going to be cut waaaaay before the protest thing

[@joeya5147]

Hey jon just got into Harvard with your 12 trick. Thanks mate.

[@PhdMusic03]

what 12 trick

[@aggravatingread]

I don't care if this is bullshit; I must hear this story.

[@jeffreyspence3292]

At the end of the video Jon says that if you don't know the answer to a math problem just give 12 as the answer cuz 12 is the most popular answer for math problems

[@alexpaxton1336]

The real question is why did this comment got so many likes, yet so few comments?

[@Ashish-xm9ol]

@@aocplusme5676 they asked if x=12 what is x equal to, the man said 12, got into Harvard.

[@NotForLongNFL]

Unannounced Chart Parties are the _best_ Chart Parties

[@kylerakers2890]

Not For Long all chart parties are the best

[@NotForLongNFL]

True

[@kylerakers2890]

Not For Long very true

[@tylerpollak8506]

Thank you jon I took the SAT and put 12 for every answer I have high hopes

[@volcanicash31]

Tyler Pollak yeah...hope I pass my history exam

[@noll2138]

@@volcanicash31 Idk if you will, though I think I'll pass my science SAT

[@mosesyu1028]

Jon: This guy. Me: well maybe it's just a smal- Jon: - and this guy and this guy and this guy and this guy and this guy and this guy and this guy and this guy and this guy and this guy and this guy and this guy and this guy. Me: oh

[@soapdish3345]

Contract values are much lower... except for Flacco but the Ravens cut him as soon as they could...

[@thomasgarcia8118]

Yeah but QBs like Goff Wentz and Brissett were on there who are better than Kaep today

[@x6xk1LLx9x]

@@soapdish3345 Pretty sure he hasn't had a single workout, he hasn't made to negotiations yet.

[@TheBanshee90]

Those guys minus Cam Newton are at best backups today. None of them are starting for the same team and most of them were declining veterans, backups, or rookies. Suprisingly people are ok with noncontroversial rookies and backups not being good, but don't want to sink starting money into a mediocre (This video should just admit he is mediocre as they pretty much prove that is what he was) QB that will have a negative impact on their profitability. You think Jameis WInston was running around asking teams for starting money?

[@techneip5449]

@@TheBanshee90 yeah he was 28th in the list now if we do some quick math there are 32 teams and he was the 28th highest in NYP/PA. So 32 - 28 = 4 so (assuming that no backup is better) he is the 4th best. Now if I were an organization I would not hirer a controversial QB who in all likelihood is worse than my QB right now. He never made a probowl and never had an astounding season that would be worth the lose of profit to get him. He was an aging duel threat, who was injured and benched before he was cut.

[@jamesk7449]

Real talk that 12 trick actually did help me out the one time I tried it. I’m 1/1, so it works 100% of the time. I have an exam soon and I will be putting 12 for every answer thank u Jon

[@socksygen]

This has aged very well in light of recent events and I'm glad this was recommended to me

[@TheBanshee90]

of the QBs he was better than in 2016 that weren't rookies, Cam Newton is the only one that is a starting QB and he was cut from the team he was playing on... Of the QBs he was worse than You have Tyrod Taylor Tank Commander Carson Palmer and Eli Manning Declining Veterans who are retired and players Like Trevian Siemons or Alex Smith (Traded), Phillip Rivers (Cut), Andy Dalton (Cut), Ryan Tannehil (Cut)... So that tells me something about Kaep he wasn't that good. He was better than career backups and rookie QBs and a handful of QBs who had statistically bad years compared to their career.

[@InterstateUnion]

@@TheBanshee90 Kaep isn't that good because every qb in the league sucked with him then huh

[@cadman02]

Checkpoint ep 400 recommended me to watch this.

[@senseisleepyhead]

@@cadman02 Same here! Interesting recommendation from LRR, nice.

[@techneip5449]

For evidence that he would be a great backup you can just look to the guy with the same passer rating Andy Dalton. He will make a great backup for the Cowboys at least I think he will. Kaep just was an under average starter who could have been a great backup. But wholly honestlyI think he would have set back the 49ers. This is not due to him being bad but to Jimmy G being good-ish. Jimmy G fits the scheme the 49ers have like a hand in a glove and I think they really would have been worse off if they kept him. Kaep would have been a great backup like Andy Dalton

[@brody10123]

Jon isn't saying "Kap is out of the league because of his protests", he's saying "of all the arguments for why he isn't in the league, his stats aren't a good excuse". There's still plenty of arguments on both sides, he's just debunking one. EDIT: I randomly rewatched this video and saw that this throwaway comment I made when I was 20 got… some attention. Don’t really know why I thought Jon wasn’t saying “Kap is out of the league for protesting” cuz that was 100% the point. I must’ve just latched onto the stats part and ignored the bigger picture. Live and learn, that’s the lesson.

[@jasonkelley9072]

He also showed a running qb that was nowhere near Vick that is aging at 29 and was on a downward trend for 4 years and spiked a 90 for five games. So with his aging legs (running backs over 30 don’t make it too long) he’s probably getting worse and slower

[@omnifluff5540]

In the NFL, mediocre to above average is worth starting. You know, since that means you are better than half the league's QBs.

[@buckybone89]

Check his Twitter feed, that's exactly what he's saying.

[@mattlarghi]

if the green bay packers miss the playoffs, yes, they should feel really stupid Kaep wouldve kept Green Bay afloat until Rodgers came back. They still might make it, but all they needed was one more win in their previous games and they would be in a really good spot right now. They've got basically nothing out of the QB position since rodgers went down. Mediocre would've ensured them a wild card spot. instead it was about politics

[@Fidel_cashflo]

NASA Ship 7 So you’re saying that all 32 franchises logically and independently came to the conclusion that the media coverage he would receive outweighs the benefits of hiring a decent qb like Kaep? In a year where injuries are rampant and franchises are scraping the bottom of the barrel for qbs like Brett hundley, and Brock Osweiler? There are other factors at play here...

[@ForumArcade]

6:00 I think you missed an "and this guy."

[@sth02]

LANDRY JONES IS A BUM. -An emotional Steeler fan

[@ashleyjude5730]

He left out one for Wentz

[@CodeHonLoL]

and the sky

[@alex_lighthall]

Forum Arcade actually 2

[@louiecosmi3611]

@@alex_lighthall No, the first "and this guy" was for the second guy in red not the first guy. The first guy was just "this guy", not "and this guy". Got it?

[@jseeker1867]

Oh boy, I can already tell the comment section is gonna be a hell of a jungle to navigate.

[@BigBlack81]

The Amazon forest of SHADE will be erected later today when this video gets viewed more. XD

[@jediphillip4]

*jungle* I see what you did there

[@Cat_Stevens]

why bother? youtube comments are hell

[@sufficientlyoldskool]

I'm not gonna look any further than this comment.

[@Buttington_Headerson]

CV Which is still triple that of ESPN comments

[@nathanielmorris6579]

Thanks for the math tips, got a 12 on my test

[@atheist4life305]

If Al Davis was still alive he be a raider right now. Al always love guys that no other team wanted.

[@joyefinch9087]

Raiders don’t need him,.

[@omarg2079]

@@joyefinch9087 They'd at least give him a shot, we both know that Gruden doesn't like Derek Carr.

[@JKSSubstandard]

If the raiders had done this at the time this video came out, theyd be a perennial playoff team instead of a mediocre mess

[@esaimorales9497]

@@JKSSubstandard Not with there defense they wouldn't

[@VersaceJesus]

Also it's an opportunity to stick it to San Francisco

[@MPS-uy5ub]

John Bois called up to be expert witness in Kaepernick vs NFL owners trial.

[@nikbol43below]

Hey Jon, this is Pretty Good.

[@nicolasontiveros858]

No it isn’t......it’s Chart Party

[@nikbol43below]

Nicolas Ontiveros You're right.

[@ryanchavez4802]

Nicolas Ontiveros lolllll

[@danielsavitz5774]

Nicolas Ontiveros *phone rings* "Is this Pretty Good?"

[@joshuawalsh4479]

Hahahahahahaha very punny

[@jamannization]

So he's not amazing but he's pretty good.

[@timothye.2902]

...pretty good, you say?

[@mwal223]

Yeah, he just wasn't good enough to keep around after his protest. Sad really

[@davideaston6944]

@@mwal223 I think you just missed the point of this entire video... ugh.

[@mwal223]

@@davideaston6944 point of the video or not, the NFL didn't see him as valuable enough. It's not fair, fun, or fortunate, but I'm not NFL owner, and they can do as they please.

[@davideaston6944]

@@mwal223 Sure they can ... But I'd file an anti-trust lawsuit (on the grounds of collusion forcing an individual from their means of income) against The NFL on these grounds described in the video. Because actually, NO, The NFL owners CANNOT "do as they please". They actually HAVE TO follow the law too. While I'm not saying it would be an easy case to win, but it sure has grounds to try.

[@cjwright79]

Single-handedly pushing smooth jazz back into public consciousness.

[@MrFindX]

Colin Kaepernick is definitely worth a roster spot in terms of talent. Teams and "fans" just say he doesn't have enough talent, even though he does. This video clearly proves that point. Thank you Jon.

[@LucasDidier22]

He couldn't beat Blaine Gabbert for the starting job. That should tell you something about how good he really is. Stats don't prove everything, especially when you cherrypick certain stats that he happens to be good in, but leave out others.

[@poisonpotato1]

Just because he has talent doesn’t mean he fits well in a team

[@poisonpotato1]

LukeMeister I agree with you but what else is there to look at? A Qb either passes, rushes, or hands it off

[@LucasDidier22]

Thatguy Man You have to actually watch I guy play. Stats can give you a good idea of how good they are, but they can be very deceiving. You don't know how much of his stats are compiled in garbage time at the end of games. You also don't know how many bad plays he gets away with due to his receivers bailing him out or defenders making bad plays. Many people also like to pick certain stats that make players look good, but leave out the ones that don't. There was a little bit of that in this video I also do agree with what you said before. Even if he is good, his style of play doesn't necessarily fit well with many teams.

[@razkable]

You know who also deserved a shot...Tim Tebow...he is still 7-4 as a starter and 8-5 overall with a playoff win in his only season...when they replaced him with the same guy orton who quit a few years later..not saying he was great but he won games in college and the NFL ....come on NFL..they never gave him a chance and its ironic that the great Payton manning couldn't take them any farther for 2 whole years got beat humiliatingly in the super bowl and was the worst starter worse than Tebow and yet was did by the 1st defense to a super bowl ..nepotism...manning gets to ride his defense and ride off in to sunset and quit while Tebow was pushed out the door when he would have led a team to a title and tried to repeat no matter what cause of who he was

[@lukadobrovic182]

I BELIEVE IN HOLY SAINT JON BOIS

[@GerritCoulter]

SAVIOUR OF THE MASSES!!!! ALL HAIL JON BOIS!!!!!

[@jonahturner6389]

Hear hear

[@54321jcc]

You know, in the U.S. it is pretty easy to create a church...

[@o3_o3_28]

OUR FATHER, WHO ART IN CHART, JON BOIS BE THY NAME.

[@1digidude]

Every Lions fan shuddered when you mentioned Joey Harrington ..

[@QuartzGolem]

Whenever someone bring a football conversation onto Kaepernick, I reference this video.

[@mcdrums87]

This deserves an update. 2019 and Kaep still doesn’t have a job, even with several teams (still) struggling at QB.

[@RockinRobb01]

Bills- Rookie QB qho played well, Jets- rookie qb who played well, Dolphins-Ryan T(>Kaep)isnt the answer they will draft a rookie, Pats- yeah, no. Bengals- Dalton is better then Kaep but both suck, Browns- Great rookie year, Steelers- Big Ben, Ravens- haha no, Chiefs-..., Chargers- you gettin' my point, Raiders and Broncos have below average QB's.... who are both better then Kaep. Texans, Colts, Titans- no, no, no, Jags- maybe but would they stuck witj Bortles for to long, Foles, Wentz, Manning, Dak, and Smith>Kaep, Mitch, Cousins, Stafford, and Rodgers>Kaep, Jimmy G, Goff, Wilson, and Rosen(did great behind that oline)> Kaep. Ryan, Newton, Brees, Winston, Fitzmagic>Kaep. So Miami and Jacksonville are the only 2 options and one had a far better qb before the year.

[@heftyhugh9086]

He didn't want to play.

[@cnking27]

@@RockinRobb01 You reply to a video that objectively displays at least 5 different dimensions where Kaepernick is a top 10 quarterback by just subjectively saying, on your own authority with no evidence at all, that basically every guy in the NFL is better than him. And you do this so shamelessly and confidently, as if there's no way anyone could possibly have a retort to your non-evidence personal claims in reply to a video of evidence with no personal claims.

[@RockinRobb01]

@@cnking27 Colin Kaepernick never led a top 28 passing offense, he had a top 3 defense and running game and as soon as the all star team left so did his ability to win games, if a stat says that Kaep is beyter then 22 QB's then that stat is wrong.

[@cnking27]

@@RockinRobb01 of course. The problem is the stats. It doesn't matter that the stat you chose is a counting stat that would be inflated if you were turnover prone as a quarterback and had to throw your team out of holes you created constantly, and says nothing of efficiency or effectiveness on a per-play basis. You want Kaep to suck, you need it for your delicate worldview to hold up, so you'll go to whatever number or opinion or hypothetical that you need to conjure up to defend that. I'm over it.

[@youngsuit]

gotta love that the nfl ran an ad this superbowl on racial justice and didn't include colin

[@paulhuedepohl1661]

Why would they? Kap was all about himself.

[@frederikbrandt424]

Why would the NFL run an ad with a guy that’s not an NFL player..

[@ianism3]

I mean, there are literally End Racism banners in the out-of-bounds lines of the endzones. in KC, that's right next to where the Chiefs have their name. the irony is unbearable.

[@polkunus]

@@ianism3 Yea I’m glad those banners ended racism

[@polkunus]

@@frederikbrandt424 This video pretty much shows that his controversy fueled his departure from the nfl so its ironic that the nfl feigns to care about social justice when Kap was doing just that in probably the most peaceful way possible

[@BBall0027]

This just proves my point about Kaepernick. My issue isn't that teams aren't signing him, it's that they're not honest about why. I would rather a team straight up say he's not worth the hassle then come up with some BS excuse like "he's not good enough", "he runs too much", or, the worst I've ever heard, "he's a vegan". I wish I was making that last one up.

[@jimbo-fk4dq]

Minkki82 Whatever helps you sleep easier.😂

[@fortress5278]

I think he is good enough, but all the negative attention would be bad for business, and the nfl is a business. The NFL can't risk more division in the fan base because rating are down. I think if he didn't have to push his agenda, he would be in the nfl. It isn't about what he said, but what he did, and many people dislike his kneeling for the flag.

[@Falcon4224]

Minkki82 Somebody didn't watch the video...

[@bcubed72]

_"Somebody didn't watch the video..."_ ...which states he's NOT "the best in the world." He's a serviceable starter, with ENORMOUS baggage. He's not Brady, Rogers, or even Roethlisberger. No SANE team wants the financial hit that comes with hiring a SOCIAL PARIAH. If he were Johnny Unitas reincarnated, yeah, probably somebody bites.

[@boredsoimakevideos12]

bcubed72 but teams sign Greg Hardy (and other people w/ domestic violence records) or have taken the chance on Vick (I know the man earned his chance, but still a PR risk)

[@RobertJW]

I came here from the LoadingReadyRun episode of Checkpoint. To be clear, I’ve been subscribed to both channels for years, but I came here today specifically because Beej shouted out Secret Base, this episode, and Jon Bois, and it made me happy.

[@jamez1313]

Already??? We just got one like two weeks ago. Jesus, Jon putting in overtime for Chart Party.

[@hitchikerspie]

4:56 Tom Brady already broke this chart, but since it was published he has: ‘17 2-1in the playoffs, lost Super Bowl but threw for a playoff record 505 yards ‘18 3-0 in the playoffs, won Super Bowl ‘19 0-1 in the playoffs ‘20 4-0 in the playoffs That’s 11 games, 9 playoff wins, 3 Super Bowl appearances, and 2 Super Bowl wins Un. Real.

[@peytoncarter5571]

thank you jon bois for all you do

[@williamkeller6854]

if i loved real parties as much as i love chart party's, maybe id leave my house on the weekend sometime.

[@academicace]

Beej sent me here. Very concise and informative!

[@NorthwestBearcat1214]

I believe that teams are too afraid of what backlash they may get from hiring him. I don't think he'll be signed anytime soon.

[@purpleplatypus7528]

Like Greg Schiano

[@InsidiousSwede]

Yeah.. Let's compare a guy who probably helped cover up sexual abuse, to a guy who kneels.. Makes sense to me... :/

[@purpleplatypus7528]

I just meant how the community reacted to him not the severity of the offenses

[@InsidiousSwede]

That's fair.

[@purpleplatypus7528]

And while there would most likely be a lot less of a reaction it probably wouldn't be enough to warrant a slight improvement to quarterback on a team that is in almost browns level of rebuild

[@senseisleepyhead]

Here via the recommendation from Beej Derry of LoadingReadyRun, and happily so. I'm not a sports person at all, but this was still a very good watch.

[@NigelOrear]

I'm here from Loading Ready Run, and I am glad Beej recommended this channel. PS you should totally work with him, he's awesome.

[@leftysheppey]

That's a name I've not heard in a while

[@dontdoittoyoself6786]

You're a legend with what you do. Also loved the Barry Bonds and Lonnie Smith video.

[@Solinaru]

Dontdoittoyoself ++ Agreed!

[@rjenkins23853]

The Barry Bonds video was the very best!!

[@cuckertarlson9152]

The Lonnie smith video might be one of the best videos ever uploaded on this platform

[@luke34349]

Changed my perspective on the subject a bit, thank you! Refreshing hearing facts to back up statements.

[@devinmccourty1500]

At 4:04 you can see the red line cut through Brady's black dot on the far right Kaep's INT percentage must be .0001% better than Toms

[@ZhangtheGreat]

So...Kaepernick isn't signed because he doesn't wear #12?

[@AsukaLangleyS02]

Can't beat the once was greatest until he committed treason

[@malickabsy573]

You can't argue this video by bringing up things not related to statistics and then blasting Jon for not bringing the up. The show is called chart party. It's about the statistics that's the whole point

[@-scrim]

Fortunately, statistics also refute Kap's reasons for his "protest".

[@global8198]

@@-scrim true

[@amunra13]

I'm here from LoadingReadyRun and Beej Dery mentioning you. I think they want to do a collab

[@hiimemily]

When he mentioned the Rickey Henderson episode during Road Quest, I actually fell out of my chair.

[@kobalt_ren01]

I'm glad I watched this after Beej of LoadingReadyRun recommended it! I don't have any interest in American football, nor am I American, but this was a great watch.

[@TommyTechnetium]

Have you done a similar analysis on Tim Tebow? If so, I'd like to see it. Send me a link.

[@heftyhugh9086]

No, because he was awful.

[@tommyhoffman]

kaep certainly deserves a job with guys like mike Glennon and Nathan peterman being employed in the nfl.

[@alfredmohammed9197]

Also I️ just started tuning into these starting with the kickoffs, and they have been great. Keep it up please.

[@GerritCoulter]

Go back and watch all of them. Its worth it. Also, check out his "Pretty Good" series of videos.

[@nutmaster652]

my personal favorite chart party is the one where he takes Barry Bonds bat away. go watch that asap.

[@Oozywolf]

Same!

[@Oozywolf]

Tommy Klein My second one. Just incredible. So many numbers. So much work....

[@badgyrl310]

Love the jazz music in the background. Very relaxing. ♪

[@ZhutedTV]

Hilarious how he brought up the 12 thing at the end. There’s a running joke in my AP Calc class where the students just yell out 12 when learning something new😂

[@internetgod404]

sad with the state of affairs right now.

[@billyfontane846]

Alot of cherry picking going on here. Kap has 30 pics to 72 tds. Thats nearly 1 pic for every 2 tds. Definitely not a good stat. He was benched when he was already haveing a bad season with 6tds and 5 ints. Again, not w good stat and completely justified. He didnt start protesting till he was already benched. Kapernick started out as a good qb but his numbers got worse every year. Thats why looking at career stats will do no good. Just look at his final year to get the picture

[@scottdrone-silvers5179]

Billy Fontane yes, you are doing a lot of cherry picking. Like ignoring the fact that Kap had 3 surgeries before the season. Like ignoring the fact that he didn’t play because of the Blaine Gabbert experiment - yet despite taking over 30 sacks in 12 games, still had a 16:4 Td/Int ratio. Btw - the 5Td/6Int numbers were Gabberts’, not Kap’s. Ignoring the fact that the team sucked, he still managed to throw for over 2200 yards and was second on the team in rushing yards. Maybe YOU should look at the actual numbers and come up with another lame excuse.

[@billyfontane846]

Scott Drone-Silvers I looked at all his stats too. Kap was a good qb, but he got worse and worse every year. Im a Seahawks fan, i watched both games against him every single year and he definitely regressed. You could tell. He turned over the ball way too much and did not produce. Sure the niners as a team werent great, but look at the case of jimmy g. He took a 3 win team and made it a juggernaut. So being on a bad team doesnt excuse being a bad qb

[@billyfontane846]

Scott Drone-Silvers Also 2016 the niners were 1-10 under him. He had 16tds to 13 turnovers. I absolutely believe him being benched was justified. This video is cherry picking because its looking at his career stats and not the ones from the year he was bench. U think the niners cosching staff cared about how good he was a few years ago when he was tanking their team?? Absolutely not

[@Heat_Hoops_Basketball_League]

I mean it makes sense he isn't a starter but just to completely get rid of him doesn't seem right i would want a mentor to my QB just how every young QB should but I guess they didn't want that

[@O4C209]

5:33 I like the last chart. Three years later 7 of the QBs that were better than Kaep are no longer in the league. And of the 26 QBs that were worse than Kaep, 21 are not starting. The other 5 Cam Newton (MVP caliber that was hurt) Joe Flacco and Ryan Fitzpatrick, who both lost their starting jobs last year. Carson Wentz, and Jared Goff who were rookies. Maybe it's just that the NFL stands for Not For Long.

[@gamingislife3332]

NFL is the hardest league to have a long term career in

[@TheBanshee90]

1 year update Cam Newton was cut. Joe Flacco is gone and Fitzmagic is a 1 year stop gap/future back up. Also look at players who were better Eli Manning Retired Jameis Winston Cut Tyrod Taylor was cut and picked up as a stop gap/tank commander for the Chargers Carson Palmer Retired Trevor Siemein No clue but no one saying he should be a starting QB Phillip Rivers Cut Alex Smith Traded Sam Bradford Constantly injured out of the league Shaun Hill Retired and was a backup Andy Dalton Cut Finally hitting the first player who is still on the team they played for 4 years ago Russel Wilson (Who had a meh stat year that year but was still streets ahead of Kaep).

[@austinfletchermusic]

Update: Wentz led the Eagles to the playoffs, and while he was injured, was instrumental in their SB. Meanwhile, Goff led the Rams to a SB despite being meh but couldn't win it. Cam is pretty injured and is probably done for real. Fitz retired. Flacco is backup for the Jets - he played a few games with Zach out and won one. Wentz looks not good on the Commanders. And Goff looks passable on the Lions. So, the rookies are the only ones starting, and Flacco is the only one not a rookie still in the league. Kaep could've easily been starting for, say, the Seahawks or the Browns right now. But, you know. Edit: Well, maybe not Seahawks with Geno balling out. But what about the Jets? They went to a 4th-string in one game. Or Dolphins, who maybe could have used him over a 7th-round rookie. Even his 49ers could've used him, just because they needed anybody in that championship game. If he was still in the league, there's a decent chance he saw at least a little play. But instead, no, 'tis no to be.

[@cocoabutterqa2233]

I completely understand where u r coming from with all the passing stats, but I think something important wasn't mentioned... a lot of kaeps passes were opened up off of play action and his threat to run. That being said, the read option style offense that he thrived on has kinda been figured out. For every scrambling QB that has been consistently successful (cam and Wilson) there have been countless others that fell out of favor since defenses actually realized how to stop zone option. Also, Kaep emerged in the height of the read option which further confused defenses. Just something that might go beyond the numbers

[@jasonkelley9072]

CocoaButterQA2 also at 29 he’s just not as fast and his arm doesn’t cover his aging legs

[@jasonkelley9072]

Runningbacks and running quarter backs have a hard time at 30 to make it in the nfl

[@cocoabutterqa2233]

Dominique Boyd I have a feeling I'll b pretty disappointed. Everyone would b smart not to press that link

[@spookyshark29]

That's not true they haven't figured out the read option. What happened was is Kaep was placed in the pocket which gave him cover 2 defense looks instead of cover 3. So they changed his style of play.

[@stevencleere4912]

if his offense had been "figured out" enough to lower his value as a quarterback for teams with much much worse options at the spot, the numbers would bear that out. They don't.

[@sridaran]

He could walk on a field now and be the 20-25th best QB in the league. Still holds the single-game record for most rushing yards by a QB, and he did it in the playoffs.

[@andrewmiller4116]

It was 8 years ago😐

[@anthonykobel4780]

Kap is 100% good enough to play in the NFL, anyone that has watched him and the NFL knows that. That being said, anyone that knows the NFL also knows that teams HATE distractions and Kap is a MAJOR distraction with his political ideologies. The argument isnt if he is good enough, the argument is if he is good enough to overcome his distraction

[@chriswarren7171]

That may be the thing that owners are looking at, but it isn't the argument that they make in public. They know that if they made the argument that 'he's too much of a distraction' it would be picked apart faster than the 'he's not good enough' argument.

[@lucasjohnpotter2153]

Rewatching this after watching the Jets start Trevor Siemien and play Luke Falk after Siemien gets injured. In the same week that Drew Brees sustained an injury that will put him out for six weeks. And the same week that Ben Roethlisberger sustained a season-ending injury. And the same week that Ryan Fitzpatrick went 11/21 for 89 yards, 0 TDs, and 3 picks A week after Nick Foles sustained a season ending injury.

[@wws4411]

JETS- why would they sign a QB when there franchise QB should be back by week 5. Saints- they traded for teddy bridgewater and regularly use taysom hill. it would be a waste of a trade steelers-they drafted mason rudolph for a reason. they also got rid of atonio brown because of the media attention he brought. why would they bring in someone who does the same thing as brown. it would also be a waste of a draft pick. dolphins-they traded for young QB josh rosen. he hasn't started yet why would they give up on him now. Jaguars-they too drafted a QB for a reason and he was solid in his first two games. every thing you mentioned can be dissolved to either a waste of a trade, draft pick and money since there coming back soon. please look into these things before you write them.

[@lucasjohnpotter2153]

Okay.

[@stevenconnors5799]

I totally agree but Teddy's really good and the Steelers believe in mason(minshew turned out really well) the other ones are no excuse

[@roseblack6342]

@@wws4411 lmao the point is if the league let him play he'd have had the chance to sign with a number of teams

[@nutmaster652]

this is the chartiest Chart Party yet.

[@anasshahid224]

Colin Kaepernick deserves respect for standing up against racial injustice 🙌

[@chasek0746]

By direspecting the flag and all of the soldiers that fought for freedom in the USA. Worst way he could've protested imo

[@Poopbeast420]

@@chasek0746 this is bait

[@giorgiopereira6742]

@@Poopbeast420 mouth breathers gonna mouth breathe

[@austinfull8941]

Jon Bois recognize our boy ARod the goat!

[@donaldmacisaac8479]

After the Seattle Mariners dorktown, I thought you were referring to Alex Rodrigues...

[@jjb0894]

You forgot that in 2012 and 2013 the Niners had an arguably legendary roster, you could’ve put anyone at QB and they would’ve been a great team. Also, Keapernick opted out of his contract, nobody cut him.

[@spookyshark29]

Vernon Davis was overrated and so was Crabtree

[@saaah707]

When he has a winning record you say the team carried him, when he has a losing record you use it as proof that he's falling off.

[@barnabybarnips2710]

2020...

[@lianchang9947]

John: "That time when the Packers had to restart to a guy other than the greatest qb on Earth.." Patriots fans: "ACTUALLY...."

[@brigader4101]

aaron rodgers doesn’t lose in the super bowl to mediocre qb’s

[@mattbowers8734]

out of style that’s because he doesn’t get there

[@esonkwah]

out of style but Arron Rodgers doesn’t have the most wins, best win percentage, and the most super bowl rings on a player of all time so whatever man

[@KDG702]

Have my calculus exam tomorrow....thanks for the tip. I’ll put 12 in for all the answers and I’ll let you know how it goes!

[@jarl5817]

I have now watched every chart party twice

[@brantinghamjohn]

Hmmm... Good video. I do think it's about the protesting, but then again I never thought there was any doubt about that.

[@kuwanger12]

Colin Kaepernick Year- QBR 2011- 74.4 2012- 71.8 2013- 65.7 2014- 60.9 2015- 43.4 2016- 49.5 What you didn't account for here is the Zone Read. Kaepernick's successful seasons were those when a new offensive scheme hadn't yet been countered by defensive coordinators. Kaepernick declined year over year as the style of offense for which he is best suited was deciphered and phased out of the league. You'll also notice that he didn't complete either of his final two seasons without injury. The Zone Read and scramble-first style of play for QBs was a failed experiment - the position is too valuable for the QB to take risks with his body.

[@williammcglinchey8033]

That Jacoby Brisset shot hasn’t aged well

[@jeremyhamilton1991]

Jacoby is playing good

[@chirkotelhin1806]

it kinda has actually

[@williammcglinchey8033]

Chirko Telhin kinda came back around didn’t it lmao

[@kirbyfornarnia4847]

Came in my recommended the day of Kap’s news of a comeback.

[@chasek0746]

"Comeback"

[@WhatACoolArrow]

They'll never let him comeback. Its billionaires selecting the most athletic young african americans from a group and then trading them around for money so they can perform physical feats to make them more money. Slave owners don't like their property having opinions about racial injustices, its bad for their business model.

[@trey__918]

@@WhatACoolArrow "slave owners" LMAO All of those "slaves" make at least 6 figures.

[@greenblue6887]

@@WhatACoolArrow There are a lot of good caucasian players tto.

[@AlexSmith-tz2lf]

5:28 Always great to be featured.

[@tv92taylor]

It’s not about his performance. But it’s also not JUST about the protest. It’s about business, and Kaep is bad for business. When you compare his performance to the negative business effects of bringing him in, he just isn’t worth it.

[@SamFergusonNE]

The first eye-opening stuff I’ve seen on this topic. Thank you.

[@spookyfool]

Alright now imma debunk your "This guy" starters. In 2016 Jacoby Brissett was traded for to be a back up not a full fledged starters for years to come (even now hes only signed to a 2 year deal. Cam Newton came off of a 2015 super bowl appearance and mvp season so that's a given the Panthers wouldn't get Kaep. Tom Savage did have the starting job but at the same time record wise the Texans were doing better. Flacco has the job for his ring and being in a tough division with decent receivers. Cutler was with Miami who waited on Tannehill to come back. Bortles came off a decent season and saw it as a rough season. Case Keenum and Jared Goff both were with Jeff Fischer and you dont wanna give up on a first round pick early. Brock was given so much money by the texand so they shot themselves in the foot. Paxton was a 1st round pick who never really got to play. Your basis is that all these QBs didnt do anything but have starting jobs I mean how is that different from Colin? Sure a high QB rating is nice but when your numbers are only a step up from even Joe flacco in scoring what gonna change? Even with the awful defense in 11 games he averaged 1.8 TDs a game but he did have a game where all 4 of his INTs were in and a game he threw for 4 TDs so his averages are inflated cause of a few good games but really he was inconsistent. Just a step up doesnt mean you're good cause once more Dak was a step down from Romo and they still have the same look from each others first few season. Colin isnt signed cause no one wants a step they want a leap like with the Niners getting Jimmy g that's a leap

[@drsnowboard]

New viewer, your graphics moves and stats really are next level. Congrats

[@j.322]

Now with the additional news of them officially black balling a peaceful hero. Took long enough, but history proves Kapernick right. Want him back still, the guy is still probably one of the best

[@verde7595]

I liked Kaepernick and still do. He wasn't cast out because of his protests - almost the entire league did that. He was cast out because nobody wants to pay $50 million a year for a guy who throws 180 yards a game and 12 touchdowns a season. He refused to take any deals. :|

[@kingcarcas1349]

TY for re-visiting this

[@AlexSmith-tz2lf]

Hey, don't underestimate the emotional factor. That's all ESPN, the greatest sports network in human history, reports on.

[@willschmitt7594]

While all of us were wondering, " why the hell do we have to make the stupid data graphs?" Jon was thinking " Oh boi, I can make a career out of this!"

[@AlphaDragonification]

5:37 lmao look at Jimmy G chillin at #3

[@leftysheppey]

Don't think Dak is putting up those numbers anymore...

[@Heat_Hoops_Basketball_League]

Lol

[@tocu98]

Not the first video pointing out this information but none have been this tightly packed and nailing things home . Want to thank Beej from LRR for recommended this when they reported on Kaep in madden

[@JCP405]

As a Raiders Fan I wish Jon can do one on Derek Carr because people say he’s not good.

[@skyrothman8651]

Sadly he's a chiefs fan

[@robertmaynard9327]

Lets see you left out since 2013 as a starter Kaep is 11-24. Between 2014 and 2015 his QBR dropped from 98.1 to 78.5 until 2016 where he went 1-10 and had that terrific 4 yd game against The Bears. Hes a lifetime starting record is 28-30. Yea he may have a good QBR but he just hasn't been able to win games. Lets see the Chargers that year Let up 423 points the next closest to the 9ers besides Cleveland. The Chargers put up 409 points only 19 more than the 9ers. Put this in perspective, Rivers QBR was 86.7 and he went 5-11, Kaep 90.7 went 1-11, Gabbert 1-4 as a Starter All in 2016. I mean yea the 9ers were bad defensively but so were other teams. and clearly career wise Kaep has only gone backwards since 2013. Yes his best year was in 2016 QBR wise but win loss it was his worst year. QBs lead teams.

[@logan_nowicki]

Someone help me out. I'm trying to figure who is the dot at 1:49 that has such a high passer rating at the age of 36

[@RockinRobb01]

Brady/Manning I would think.

[@logan_nowicki]

Can't be Brady, he hasn't retired yet, I can see it being Manning though

[@nychold]

My argument has never been "he's not good enough." It's always been "he's not good enough to overcome his high asking price (especially for his downslide years between 2012 and 2015), and for the waves he'll create for the team." The reason a lot of other quarterbacks were given a chance before Colin Kaepernick is because they were already on the team, or cheap enough for the team to take a risk. It's all about risk analysis. There are only three conditions to consider. I'll label each one with a capital letter, while the lower case will be the exact opposite. (A) Kaepernick performs well enough (B) Media attention is an impediment (C) Salary cap is fine This means we have eight possible outcomes: ABC, aBC, AbC, abC, ABc, aBc, Abc, abc. In seven out of eight of those outcomes, there is some negative side-effect of hiring Kaepernick. Obviously, not every outcome is equally likely (ie: Kaepernick will likely do well enough on most teams), but then again, not each condition is equally valued among teams either. A team not concerned with media attention might be strapped for cash, so hiring Kaepernick will result in cutting a huge chunk of a trained team. A team with a lot of money might already have a reasonable option, so "well enough" might be Brady levels of performance. And a team not interested in a strong performance is...the Browns. (Sorry, had to do that, Cleveland fans.) Ultimately, there's too much risk.

[@franksilva4921]

This has now been proven, and the nfl has to pay for it. Awesome.

[@global8198]

How can anybody be forced to hire him? Makes no sense to me

[@polkunus]

@@global8198 Decisions outside of his performance can contribute to the reason to hire him and that can arguably be counterintuitive to social justice as the nfl likes to portray itself as a partner of.

[@Theevilrhino]

Cool video. It’s very simple that he’s not in the league because he kneeled. He’s not a star but he’s far better than alternatives and could have arguably started for some teams. I just find it ironic that people are more averse to an activist than a wife beater lol. They even try to make dumber down arguments about tickets and revenue which they cannot grasp in the slightest

[@mjogundeyi1213]

In my humble opinion as a casual. I think its important to note that part of people that are employed to be in the public eye. Need to be aware of the pr they bring. There are a few average QB's that couldent get a roster spot simply because average+ bad press= not worth keeping

[@lolerskates876]

in calc, I felt like the answers would be; -1, 0, 1, or infinity. I also always had a hunch "C" was more common on multiple choice questions. I had no idea "12" was the most common number. Lets test this theory; (number of MLB Games in a Season / Number of MLB Teams) * (number of NHL Games in a Season / Number of NHL Teams) - (Number of NFL Teams / Number of NFL games in Season) - (number of NFL games in a season)^2 / (number of NFL teams)^2

[@jameswarner5878]

The 49ers with CK from week 6 - 17 scored: 16 17 23 20 17 24 6 17 13 22 23. Youre blaming the defense?

[@RyRidge]

Yea, the NFL really Blacklisted this Guy over supporting a protest, the most American thing you can do... Smh

[@PlanetGamingOfficial]

He was on a 4 year decline, and couldn’t read a defense for his life tbh. He might have had 2 or 3 decent seasons left. His ego and idiocy are definitely the deciding factor in why no one wants him though.

[@cnking27]

@@PlanetGamingOfficial the fact that you had to click on this video and then scroll here and you still say this is just breathtakingly stupid.

[@coolguy02536]

@@cnking27 So only the brainless white knights that shouldn't exist at all can watch this video? Some folks still can't seem to grasp that you can leave a comment on a video without watching a second of it Lol

[@cnking27]

@@coolguy02536 that's kind of like me not knowing wtf a "white knight" is and also not giving enough of a crap about you or your comment to find out. No, it's not. It would be if I did that and also argued with you and created an entire hypothesis to fit my preconceived notions about people with cartoon profile pics who say things like "white knight" and talked over you as if I know about the thing you're talking about better than you do without presenting a shred of evidence. Truth is still not up for debate, and you can't create it by arguing loudly. Sorry.

[@Footballfansblue]

I do think Kap should be in the league, but Passer rating is a bad stat. Actually, all basic stats are bad, but I understand that you can't really compare film, and judge every QB based film because it's just not very accessible. The average passer rating is much higher now than it was in the 80's or 90's because of much more advanced offensive schemes, and less leeway for DB's in coverage. I know you used some advanced stats too, which were better but they can still have the same issues. Anyway, like I said, I do think Kap should be in the league because he is an above avearge QB, but using base statistics isn't really a good measure of how they actually played.

[@Footballfansblue]

Even If we ignore all the variables that go into a game, and just use stats like passer rating to judge a QB, you can't tell me it's not flawed. Imagine a QB who is 20/30 for 330 yards with 0 TDs and 1 INT. 3 times he completes a pass inside the 5 yard line, but the team decides to run the ball in for 3 TD's but they only averaged 3.1 yards per run. The interception was a dropped pass from a reciever after a good pin-point throw. In total, he leads his team to 28 offensive points. The QB has a passer rating of 89.6, which is a little above league average but he definitely played better than that. Now Imagine a Qb who is also 20/30 but for 156 yards, 3 Td's and 1 INT. He only averaged 5.2 yards per pass, and his team scored 21 offensive points, averaging 5.5 yards per run. His Interception was an overthrown ball in a key situation. His passer rating is 98.8 which is "very good" even though his play was subpar. You might think that stuff like this would even out, but it gennerally doesn't, and this is just base stats with a little bit of context. None of the things I mentioned accounted for teams, scheme or other things of contextual importance in football. Even with base stats you can see how flawed QB rating is. Stuff like Yards, Td's and INT'S also don't have any context.

[@magicoA]

True,but “game film party” would be far harder to do cool typography for haha

[@parallaxninja456]

Interesting video! The NFL is definitely... weird sometimes, especially with stats. Last year, Jefferson and Cousins were leading in multiple stats despite not only losing a lot of games, but also were both out for injuries and STILL were holding the lead for those offensive stats for a few weeks which is crazy... I see why people including myself love sports because there are so many metrics and stats to pour over and sometimes, there isn't necessarily a correlation between stats and "doing good" whatever that might entail... These players usually start slowing down in their late 20s/Early 30s so its always uncharted waters for performance, injury, etc. There is obviously also no 'I' in team. Sometimes you'll have phenomenal players, with awful chemistry that leads to puzzling outcomes in games. This is especially true now, but the standard is constantly rising for these athletes (especially QBs) and honestly being "decent" isn't good enough anymore and I feel like this applies to Colin. Obviously most teams want to avoid any controversy regardless of the issue, but him being a "decent" QB while comparing other starting QB's with worse stats isn't necessarily a good metric to go off of (but I know this video is purely talking about the faults of the stats argument for why colin was blackballed so I'm not hating on you or anything). It's kind of a crazy rabbit hole that could be debated for centuries, but I also want to point out that (SOME) of his supporters seem to be a bit delusional. To be fair, he did go to the SB, had some good wins, etc, but even today i've seen people still calling for him to play again, acting like he was Brady Jr. I think you could probably make a list of thousands of names of "decent" professional athletes that had their careers come to an end earlier than expected... Lots of players and QBs go to the superbowl then completely fall off... (I know there were other problems on the team, but the 49s went from the superbowl to a 2-14 season in 3 years... that is a clear indication you need to revamp the team asap lol) It just opens up a can of worms with that and it all becomes hypothetical at this point, and one thing is for certain, these teams will never bank on hypotheticals to ensure their team's victory. Great topic to discuss and thank you!

[@aidanhennessey5586]

2x2x3; part of 5-12-13, geo mean of 9 and 16 which shows up a lot, and really just all around a nice number. Would be perfect if it was a factorial

[@orgyneedwitness8326]

Remember, the same people who don't think Kaepernick is good enough to play also tend to think Tim Tebow was.

[@naUGhtydoodRRA]

I mean, he got benched twice last year. In favor of... Blaine Gabbert. So yeah, he was really hard to watch, the whole team was as much as I like them tbh, but kaepernick just isn't that good

[@CamJames]

bench/start decisions are subjective. stats are not.

[@Hunter-os5yx]

Why do people prop him up like he is a good QB in last season he had 2200 yards and 12 tds those aren’t good stats by any means he was on pace for maybe 3000 yards and 16 touchdowns and that’s if they let him play the whole season just because he was good like 4 years ago doesn’t mean he is now he is an average back up at best and most teams don’t want the negative publicity he brings along with him.

[@HayTatsuko]

Major props for keeping this one clean, because what's happened to CK is totally bogus.

[@hullinstruments]

It’s almost shocking to me to hear someone who shares my accent, and he’s actually willing to look at things objectively,… Look at the numbers and the abject truths. IV never watched a NFL game, and I’m honestly not a sports fan, I’ve actually never owned a television. But I really enjoy your content. And it’s refreshing to hear somebody Who sounds like me, but isn’t a complete and utter disappointment to the human race. Don’t misunderstand me… It’s not like they’re all racist or something or they all consider themselves far right… A lot of the folks around here in north Georgia and metro Atlanta I consider salt of the earth folks. Because they would help someone in a bad situation… In the color of their skin wouldn’t even register in their mind. But for some reason when they talk politics and social issues, they sure as hell don’t come off as levelheaded, educated, or caring folks. And it’s killing me because I love my little corner of the United States… But even the ones who are decent folks and down to earth..,. stick with the talking points, Refuse to change their opinion… And yup.... you guessed it......even though they consider themselves educated and headed… They fall on the political right on EVERY SINGLE issue that matters. Regardless of the facts or how the numbers can disprove their opinions in seconds.. I just don’t know what to do anymore honestly

[@jackherrmann586]

Kaepernick didn’t want back into the nfl. Was he forced out? Maybe. Was he THAT good? No. But ultimately when you’re told to show up to an nfl tryout and decide to blow it off and set up your own, that’s not the type of player you want on your team

[@Adam_Bosscoe]

Aaron Rogers is the greatest quarterback on Earth? Why didn't someone tell me Tom Brady left for Mars.

[@matthewarnold4557]

Brady is a system QB with a top 10 defense every year.

[@drewsmithson6665]

You left out important stats. Like The average league season yardage is 3500. Colin only averages 2300yds a season. Or how the league average is 25TD a season, and he only throws 18TD a season. Or his completion percentage is 3% less than average. He might have a high rating, if yards per attempt and not throw interceptions. But he still is very inaccurate. You know, which is what a QB needs to be to throw the ball. Basically your numbers say a QB who throws 4 long passes a game but miss the other 6 passes completely with zero TDs, is better than a QB who throws 8 short passes, 1 int, and 1TD. Sorry, I'll pick the short pass guy and send the other guy home.

[@axogablencet]

Convenient that you didn't list how many games he played from a guy expressing criticism for leaving out important stats. Kaepernick has only started all 16 games in two seasons out of his six seasons in the NFL. In the other four seasons, he had zero (2011), seven (2012), eight (2015), and eleven (2016) starts total. This is why his average is so low and its dishonest of you to take that average out of context. Secondly, regarding your point on passing number, Jon's numbers have a floor unlike yours. He set a lower cutoff so that statistical anomalies associated with lack of sample size are disregarded. And as a side note, most starting QBs throw more than 10 passes in a game. So your scenario isn't very representative of reality.

[@wackedupYUMYUMS]

I enjoyed watching Kap play. Way to validate my man