Let's Talk About Namor's HUGE Victory Over T'Challa in Black Panther #14

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Жыл бұрын

In today's video let's talk about Namor's HUGE victory over T'Challa in Black Panther #14 and why the former king of Wakanda is right to not trust the King of Atlantis... But also, why Namor isn't wrong about T'Challa'
s recent fortunes.
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@streetsufi6776
@streetsufi6776 Жыл бұрын
I Look Forward to when T'challa is back being King, Being Cool, being in Control and Kicking Ass!
@BluemoonLacrymosa
@BluemoonLacrymosa Жыл бұрын
This is what the 100th time that a man has ever lost a throne and or been banished. And then we get the exact same situation where they found out later that it was a really bad idea and then we start again. It’s just very weird that anyone would think Namor would be doing anything to benefit Wakanda. This’ll definitely come and bite them in the ass later. And I definitely agree with you. Would be wonderful if with each new writer that there was some consistency with stories going forward, a lot of stories just seem to ignore what the previous run did and just throw off any sense of continuity
@tashaem1
@tashaem1 Жыл бұрын
How many times is Wakanada gonna try to dethrone T'CHALLA? It never works out well.
@AnansitheSpider8
@AnansitheSpider8 Жыл бұрын
It seems like every time a new writer is given the Black Panther book, T'Challa loses the throne. Although I don't recall if that ever happened when Hudlin was writing the book. It's a tired, worn out cliched concept.
@htownboss6422
@htownboss6422 Жыл бұрын
Never lol
@sosad4117
@sosad4117 Жыл бұрын
This is bullshit the way they treat black character is seems that you a sellout your channel is only is to tear down these black characters time for me to unsubscribe
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
I'm getting tired of his ppl constantly questioning his leadership but will trust an Outsider, imo wakanda needs to evolve as a ppl and stop bitching and betraying their king. Or better yet have Shuri rule and T'Challa go to the intergalactic wakanda
@damonpatterson8293
@damonpatterson8293 Жыл бұрын
@@ampocalypsew3883 it's like they act like he hasn't been through hard times before. He's been in a coma when Shuri had to take over, has had his vibranuim rendered useless in his confict with Dr. Doom. He lost his kingdom to Eric Killmonger (N'Jadaka). Namor flooded Wakanda and so much more.
@GamerArtTv
@GamerArtTv Жыл бұрын
I feel like at this point, a new writer doesn’t like T’Challa at all. Hopefully we can see T’Challa get more W’s
@highlight915
@highlight915 Жыл бұрын
I stopped around issue #7. I'm just gonna pick it back when Eve Ewing starts it
@htownboss6422
@htownboss6422 Жыл бұрын
Smart man
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
Shit I didn't even read buy thr book, I'm just watching blerd
@damonpatterson8293
@damonpatterson8293 Жыл бұрын
@@ampocalypsew3883 yeah, I know things have to move forward for new readers, but it's Priest and Hudlin's runs for me.
@Blackstorm99
@Blackstorm99 Жыл бұрын
Same here
@TheZeroDestroyer
@TheZeroDestroyer Жыл бұрын
Marvel really likes handling Tchalla and Wakanda L’s.
@iraford5788
@iraford5788 Жыл бұрын
Nah not marvel just this specific writer.
@TheZeroDestroyer
@TheZeroDestroyer Жыл бұрын
@@iraford5788 Coates did the same thing during his run. Al Ewing did him some justice but they really been pushing this whole incompetent Tchalla thing for awhile. I don’t mind him losing, but they’re making him get owned by cap and Spider-Man doesn’t do a lot for his brand. They’re jobbing him for no reason
@sosad4117
@sosad4117 Жыл бұрын
This is bullshit the way they treat black character is seems that you a sellout your channel is only is to tear down these black characters time for me to unsubscribe
@EmperorDxD
@EmperorDxD Жыл бұрын
@@TheZeroDestroyer I don't read anything about that Racist I had to explain to my kids why the guy who writting black panther there favourite character was insulting there grandfather who died at nine eleven
@various.artist
@various.artist Жыл бұрын
Simply haven't found any satisfaction in BP comics since Priest. He did a decent deconstruction arc if you have to have one. But so far BP and Wakanda are impressive on very old achievements. A little like how Blue Marvel played the same way. Ultimately Marvel and other major publishers aren't really doing right by certain IPs.
@FrederickAmadi
@FrederickAmadi Жыл бұрын
It would be cool to actually have a BP series focused on his War Dogs and their military exploits/black ops. It would be great to have T'Challa playing the role of a political figure (out of costume) and travelling the continent of Africa and/or the world to speak with other world leaders about politics while at the same time making strategic plans and giving orders to his War Dogs about how to proceed with various missions. That calculative T'Challa is what I would like to see and then on occasion, he appears in costume and lends a hand, but it should be handled primarily by his War Dogs. And I said this before, but I really think there should be a story arc concerning Wakanda and Symkaria. How there has never been any interaction between T'Challa and Silver sable all this time, is beyond me. I think a story or two between those two nations and their respective leaders could lead to so many cool events transpiring.
@stevenclark6090
@stevenclark6090 Жыл бұрын
In totally agree
@mykdebradley3586
@mykdebradley3586 Жыл бұрын
Why can T'CHALLA be and stay KiNG, like NAMOR is KiNG? He doesn't need to be street level, he's above that, you have LUKE CAGE, NiGHT THRASHER, RAGE, SAM : CAPTAIN AMERICA, POWER MAN etc. for that.😐
@FrederickAmadi
@FrederickAmadi Жыл бұрын
Thats what I'm saying. I agree 100%. You got: Luke cage, iron fist, jessica jones, misty, colleen, white tiger, hell cat, prowler, punisher, elektra, moon knight, echo, night thrasher, cloak and dagger, shang chi, etc. Not to mention, DD even has a sidekick now, Blindspot. Lets not act like NY don't got street level heroes. There's literally a hero on every block that could easily do DD's job and probably even better lol.
@damonpatterson8293
@damonpatterson8293 Жыл бұрын
Because they have a quota limit to how many black street level and other poc heroes they can use at a time! 😂😭😂 Just kidding but it's starting to seem that way. I mean they canceled Luke Cage's 50th anniversary series. I know he's the mayor now but they still could've done his miniseries.
@stevenclark6090
@stevenclark6090 Жыл бұрын
Because white writers don't know how to see us in that light
@mykdebradley3586
@mykdebradley3586 Жыл бұрын
@@stevenclark6090 although that's true, John Ridley is the Black writer currently on BLACK PANTHER.😐
@stevenclark6090
@stevenclark6090 Жыл бұрын
Im aware of that, but the fact remains that white writers don't know how to write for black characters
@JM-gc7hz
@JM-gc7hz Жыл бұрын
Gotta disagree Ernie. People don’t hate seeing their favorite character deconstructed. Done well it makes for excellent stories. They hate when it’s done HORRIBLY like in this run. Especially when Ta-Nehisi Coates ALREADY did it just a few years ago. This is one of the worst runs for any popular character. John Ridley has done horrible fucking job. Glad it’s done in 15 and not dragged out any longer. Hopefully the next run is better and I love that in the upcoming Avengers run T’Challa is in, Namor and Steve are out. Maybe T’Challa will get some respect there.
@Dr.Speller
@Dr.Speller Жыл бұрын
Yes. 💯
@greenbeancom38
@greenbeancom38 Жыл бұрын
Wait what t'challa is back to leading the avenger's, is this true or wishful thinking ???
@JM-gc7hz
@JM-gc7hz Жыл бұрын
@@greenbeancom38 T’Challa isn’t leading but it’s a pretty solid, classic member, no BS team. Captain Marvel is leading the team, T’Challa, Thor, Iron Man, Scarlet Witch, Vision and Sam Captain America.
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
@@JM-gc7hz in all honesty BP didn't even seem aa if he was leading the team
@JM-gc7hz
@JM-gc7hz Жыл бұрын
@@ampocalypsew3883 I been checked out of Jason Aaron’s Avengers. There’s nothing there of any value
@supreme1stson488
@supreme1stson488 Жыл бұрын
At the end of the day, they always do the black man dirty smh!
@mykdebradley3586
@mykdebradley3586 Жыл бұрын
And this by the hands of a black man.
@supreme1stson488
@supreme1stson488 Жыл бұрын
@@mykdebradley3586 Dam 🤦🏾‍♂️
@brumtownmiller6130
@brumtownmiller6130 Жыл бұрын
​@@mykdebradley3586 hes all about the money rather than his people
@KenGKaiden
@KenGKaiden Жыл бұрын
There's deconstructing a character, and then there's the destruction of a character. This feels like the latter; T'Challa is made to look incompetent at every beck and turn. I might not be mad at it, but I'm also not enjoying it at all. I'm looking forward to it ending.
@Dr.Speller
@Dr.Speller Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I don’t think folks will look back on this run and appreciate it as is proposed in the video.
@theonewhoisbetterthanyou3570
@theonewhoisbetterthanyou3570 Жыл бұрын
Im mad at it lol.
@KenGKaiden
@KenGKaiden Жыл бұрын
@@Dr.Speller I agree. If the execution were better, I could see people looking back on this in a different light. But as is, it just looks like John Ridley is taking a major dump all over T'Challa.
@KenGKaiden
@KenGKaiden Жыл бұрын
@@theonewhoisbetterthanyou3570 I don't blame you in the least.
@blubastud
@blubastud Жыл бұрын
Bruh, why are these writers obsessed with having TChalla take these Ls, lol. Im also tired of Namor's ass specifically handing Tchalla ls
@77mcmarine
@77mcmarine Жыл бұрын
This overall run of Black Panther was... cringey at worst and run of the mill at best. I have no issues with characters being broken down to bare bones or going through drastically dramatic narratives... it's just seems too heavy on the "Black Panther is no longer king" and "T'Challa is losing badly" that it seems almost like the writer outright doesn't like the character. And wasn't Shuri the one who attacked Atlantis?
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
Yes it was shuri, hopefully blerd corrects himself on that
@JayRose0926
@JayRose0926 Жыл бұрын
Also taking the thing that makes wakanda special and giving it to the atlantians is trash 🗑
@ginofrancejr555
@ginofrancejr555 Жыл бұрын
I like to see eve l Ewing do a combination of Coates run and priests run
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm only watching this comic cus of yoy blerd but, I refuse to support a writer (a black one mind you) who sees his own ppl ad worthless. John is a self hating black man who will call his own ppl the er, not to mention he clearly hasn't been reading BP comics cus the person who launch the attack on Atlantis was shuri, nor T'Challa. Also the way the dialog in this is so.....I don't think I have ever heard shuri say messed up. I hope John stays away from comics and anything related to blk ppl cus we disown him. Tho I do hope the new writer touch up on the IGOW and possible get Storm and T'Challa back
@ChrisDeebo
@ChrisDeebo Жыл бұрын
Honestly if I can forget the Colonizer and Buffalo Soldier ever exist I will be happy because that was...something
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
Ugh left a bad taste in my mouth
@Appocollege
@Appocollege Жыл бұрын
2:23 I sort of hear you Blerd and that very well could happen but I think more than likely this will go the way of spiderman clone wars. From a storytelling standpoint it has interesting elements but I think the way in which Tchalla has been portrayed recently and the status shake up in Wakanda is leaving most people more annoyed. Not saying characters shouldn’t change but I could easily see a situation where people are like “so this sticks but we couldn’t have Tchalla and Storm stay together?”
@FrederickAmadi
@FrederickAmadi Жыл бұрын
I haven't read that Black Panther no fear run, but just from the premise, that sounds like a huge step down in T'Challa's position in the Marvel Universe. Being reduced from the role of a king to a local neighborhood crimefighter, sounds like a huge insult imo. The fact DD even has T'Challa's phone# and would call him out of literally ANYONE in the MCU...it's like bruh...This man skipped over every street level hero available in NY, skipped over the heavy hitter heroes who actually LIVE in NY (practically every Avenger), skipped the entire ocean to ask the King of an African nation to come fight in his place. A KING bruh. Even if T'Challa wasn't king anymore (lets say for argument sake), this dude still has so much responsibility and issues to handle within Wakanda. I don't think people understand what and how BIG an actual country is. This man don't got no time to be in NY, which is literally FLOODED with heroes. If anything, T'Challa should be offering DD a job to come to Wakanda and help him deal with his own issues. You don't call a king to do something. A King calls YOU, ol' goofy ass! If thats not an insult, I don't know what is lol.
@ambientknightz8211
@ambientknightz8211 Жыл бұрын
I feel what u saying but it was a really good read wayyyyyy better then the current bs we have
@garytucker3563
@garytucker3563 Жыл бұрын
Trials and tribulations make good characters great. But a big NO for me as far as BP doing ANYTHING in NY. There is absolutely NOTHING valuable about Hell's Kitchen for a former King to worry about. Africa is one of the largest continents, even in this fictional universe, why not have T'Challa have adventures across it, the storytelling, world building, and new character creation opportunities would be boundless!
@MrJames769
@MrJames769 Жыл бұрын
Tired of seeing BP taking Ls BUT the way Namor undercut BP was a dope move. You just know it's gonna bite them later.
@moonknight101
@moonknight101 Жыл бұрын
The writer wrote a trash story can’t wait until it’s over
@htownboss6422
@htownboss6422 Жыл бұрын
Right
@KirbySans
@KirbySans Жыл бұрын
I know Blerd that your not into covering whole comic stories issue to issue (Or have time to, sure). But it's nice to get a video that sort of feels like a conclusion to your previous videos coverage of the comics. I also know you'd like to promote us buying the comics too. But yeah, nice work. Even if you can loosely give an ending that's appreciated. Anyway Thanks as always.
@Hance88
@Hance88 Жыл бұрын
At this point, they bout to make Namor Black Panther bruh
@supreme1stson488
@supreme1stson488 Жыл бұрын
That shirt is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 SailorPool lololol
@Tru3kisame
@Tru3kisame Жыл бұрын
T'Challa out here proving he's more Batman than Batman when it comes to bad decisions
@Sheetmetalsupreme
@Sheetmetalsupreme Жыл бұрын
Hopefully tchalla gets the suit from his "man without fear" run
@sunspot3020
@sunspot3020 Жыл бұрын
I hate it because nothing ever happens to the fish folks in Atlantis and the wht folks in where Dr. Doom is over. They truly need to make the panther god faithful to T'challa.. I remember one comic book where dr. Doom was granted the panther god power because he reasoned with her. Should at any time form or fashion that Doctor Doom should stand in the presence of the Panther God let alone be granted the power that she possessed
@sunspot3020
@sunspot3020 Жыл бұрын
If wakanda ban Black Panther. The Panther god should turn her back on wakanda. Because the covernat with the Panther god is between the Bloodline of T'challa's
@miltonbunn1350
@miltonbunn1350 Жыл бұрын
You are a bomb brother who knows his source material, keep up the good work.
@cornflaks11
@cornflaks11 Жыл бұрын
Facts... black panther man without fear is my favorite black panther run...
@nigeltrotter2886
@nigeltrotter2886 Жыл бұрын
Boy, I lost my anger for a second looking at that almost Sailor Moon shirt.
@Ucey365
@Ucey365 Жыл бұрын
Nah, can’t give my time, energy or resources to a comic I dislike. I have zero issue passing on any comic that makes me feel like the core of the character is being invalidated. I like that there’s stories for everyone, so I’ll wait until one for me resurfaces.
@robmoore6802
@robmoore6802 Жыл бұрын
Bruh I loved that run as well
@blackphoenix77
@blackphoenix77 Жыл бұрын
Man, I'm just patiently waiting for John Ridley to leave this title; he must really not like Black Panther. Hopefully Eve L. Ewing completely ignores all of this and goes in a new direction.
@jaybeeeasy
@jaybeeeasy Жыл бұрын
It’s like Uncle Ruckus is writing BP at this point.
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
@@jaybeeeasy that's what I've been saying
@jaybeeeasy
@jaybeeeasy Жыл бұрын
@@ampocalypsew3883 because it’s true 🤣🤣🤣
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
@@jaybeeeasy tho the only difference between jr and ruckus is that ruckus is funny, jr is just str8 up sad
@jaybeeeasy
@jaybeeeasy Жыл бұрын
@@ampocalypsew3883 but they both need their @$$ kicked
@Thrillr
@Thrillr Жыл бұрын
Ooooo this is spicy, So will Tosin come into the for front. Or T’Challa try to help wakanda in the background
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
I hope not
@streetsufi6776
@streetsufi6776 Жыл бұрын
John Ridley has To GO!
@Vamroc
@Vamroc Жыл бұрын
I made a similar point about Ant-Man & The Wasp: Quantumania saying that movie was EVERYTHING Thor: Ragnarok should've been and people are complaining but if Ant-Man & The Wasp: Quantumania were as funny as Thor: Ragnarok people would say "why is this movie so funny, it should be serious given the stakes". I'm like a smoker with epilepsy it leaves me with a lot of buts & head shakes 🤣 when I see people reacting to Ant-Man & The Wasp: Quantumania
@sergioruiz733
@sergioruiz733 Жыл бұрын
Im really only following this cause I like Namor and man even as a Namor fan...this...this doesn't feel like a good win.
@m.k.o7610
@m.k.o7610 Жыл бұрын
This is so funny. 😂😂🤣🤣
@omegcrash
@omegcrash Жыл бұрын
They are both so alike how could they not be on each other. Facts are they are both head of state that need to look to their people first. I think this run is different not bad different> Can't wait to see Eves run> Beauty of having read comics for decades I'm so patient. This issue was a kick though so complex can't wait to see the next couple issues
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
Sure if you like a self hating black man who's racist towards his own ppl
@Blackstorm99
@Blackstorm99 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, John Ridley hates Black Panther. It’s weird to bring T’Challa so low with not real understanding of what this whole endgame is. A good deconstruction has growth and payoff in the end this was just pure kicking a person over and over.
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
Right, hell Coates had the whole deconstructing of T'Challa, so JR is just str8 up hating on not just T'Challa but blk ppl in general
@rodneycarson6964
@rodneycarson6964 Жыл бұрын
Eve L Ewing is a GREAT NAME!
@johnwright9049
@johnwright9049 Жыл бұрын
This was an interesting development between the two characters.
@petemarqdadon
@petemarqdadon Жыл бұрын
Aw bruh I was with you until you mentioned the black panther man without fear... that's my least favorite run 😂
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
I dont mind that run but I'm tired of black panther losing his thrown thn taking over some stupid ass street shit
@jbuggyboy1
@jbuggyboy1 Жыл бұрын
I hate how people write Black Panther and Wakanda.
@jbuggyboy1
@jbuggyboy1 Жыл бұрын
Not to diss on no one but, Wakanda has the most advanced technology on Earth in Marvel comics leagues above the likes of ironman. They always downgrade Wakanda. Iron heart has a vibranium detector..... Wtf. Wakanda were at one point the only who could manipulate vibranium because they had the knowledge on how it works long ago. I wanna start a fan story.
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
@@jbuggyboy1 you know what I don't understand, I get why T'Challa open the boarders to wakanda so that they can be more aware of tge outside world. And prepare for an attack. But Wakanda themselves barely make anything to defend themselves, they always ha to rely on T'Challa to invent something to counter. Like wtf why is he doing more work when yall should be just as smart
@wolfbane7497
@wolfbane7497 Жыл бұрын
T'challa needs to really put his foot down start slapping some of these people into line. Because God dang he needs to start acting like a king and like an emperor of The intergalactic. Empire wauconda because God dang these people are really trying to kick him off his Thorne. I would like it better if black panther just became evil and just start being a tyrant to these people because they always keep crapping on him.
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
It depends on the writer, cus in some issues (mainly the short ones) he gets no complaints
@dayingnightmare9777
@dayingnightmare9777 Жыл бұрын
who is more stronger between namor mcu or aquaman from DC movies?
@EmperorDxD
@EmperorDxD Жыл бұрын
Both seems about equal
@wolfbane7497
@wolfbane7497 Жыл бұрын
Nooooooo Aquaman would slap MCU Namor.
@FrederickAmadi
@FrederickAmadi Жыл бұрын
@@wolfbane7497 I think so too. Namor would get cooked
@wolfbane7497
@wolfbane7497 Жыл бұрын
@@FrederickAmadi Even in the comic books Aquaman would still slap Namor man titties
@Vamroc
@Vamroc Жыл бұрын
Something that could be interesting what if Marc Specter DIES or just decides to quit after the current arc and T'Challa becomes the new Moon Knight, T'Challa is STILL The King of the Dead so imagine him being able to communicate with all of the previous Moon Knights
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but that's a terrible idea, he's already his own man he doesn't need to be like Sam. If anything that would be a white if Scenario
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
Here's a question for you all what would you like to see in the new issue/writer coming up, and what are you afraid of for what they do?
@jerronwesley4473
@jerronwesley4473 Жыл бұрын
More Black Panther and Storm - reunited!!!!!!!!
@jerronwesley4473
@jerronwesley4473 Жыл бұрын
More of TChalla as head of Wakanda and superior intelligence and scientific creations and political intrigue.
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
@@jerronwesley4473 I'll take BP and Storms relationship a step further, their expecting a child, and get remarried tho it can be a secret to avoid the child having hardship dealing with tge many factions. And yes I'm all for regaining his intelligence becoming smarter than the top smartest ppl in marvel, I would also love to deal with the intergalactic wakanda politics and wouldn't mind it being much better thn prime wakanda. Also I believe it's time for T'Challa ro upgrade to a new look, kinda tired of his standard all black with no details on it. Wouldn't mind something that's based off of afro futurist with some neon lights as a cape. Last but not least I would want T'Challa to do something that most if not all black heroes with political power has ever done, bring up the black community. Give them knowledge on how to invest for a long run, not depend on the government to help them, build up their neighbors. And welcome them to his empire.
@Dogofwar9
@Dogofwar9 Жыл бұрын
The only issue is t’challa being embarrassed and useless. Aside from that the story isnt bad tbh. I’d be interested in a street level or galactic black panther too!
@Marx1684
@Marx1684 Жыл бұрын
We share the same favorite Black Panther run. Batman who?
@lexbryant4564
@lexbryant4564 Жыл бұрын
Lol how many times we're doing this each time it ended badly for wakanda it this point the wakanda citizen plus parliament are just ungrateful I would've left and never come back . Let wakanda & Parliament suffer the consequences of their actions unfortunately I doubt Tchalla love for his country is to big. Do that shit to Namor or Dr. Doon all hell would break loose. Aside from that I'm not really a fan of this run
@kaqcruz03
@kaqcruz03 Жыл бұрын
I like what you said, and like you, I won't let any comic make me angry, yeah I do get invested on the storyline, but at the end of the day, it's there for me to enjoy and not to aggravate me. I love you channel btw.
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
Even when the writer is a self hating black man who literally calls his own ppl the heavy er
@JM-gc7hz
@JM-gc7hz Жыл бұрын
I agree don’t let it make you angry. But same time people don’t have to accept any ol thing they’re given. If one doesn’t like it, they don’t like it.
@theonewhoisbetterthanyou3570
@theonewhoisbetterthanyou3570 Жыл бұрын
@@JM-gc7hz SAY IT LOUDER AND PROUDER
@devonmoye9706
@devonmoye9706 Жыл бұрын
😂😎😎it is official
@daniescott3000
@daniescott3000 Жыл бұрын
All of this because Chadwick Boseman passed away.🙄😒
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
Possible, but out of all the writers Marvel choose John aka uncle ruckus
@jerronwesley4473
@jerronwesley4473 Жыл бұрын
This run is so horrible I stopped buying it after the second issue. Refuse to pay for garbage!
@MrKD1970
@MrKD1970 Жыл бұрын
Black Panther, Falcon, & Luke Cage. The holy trinity of Black superheroes yet none get any real respect from Marvel or its assorted writers. Sam Wilson had to become Cap Falcon, and I believe we'll never get a quality Cage book unless it's a alternate reality 70s comic (drawn by Alex Maalev, hint, hint). Cage as mayor just doesn't work for me. The last comic I enjoyed him in was Mighty Avengers. I also think marvel is determined to give T'Challa the Cap Mar Vel treatment in comics as well as MCU.... and that would be their biggest mistake yet.
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
Cage being mayor could be good if he tackle the issues of the city and help poc thrive, but I don't think marvel wants to do that bc it's too political for blk ppl (but not for mutants) I feel like Falcon doesn't really belong in this trilogy if anything it should be storm, granted she has done a lot for the mutants but she suffers bring in the background a lot. BP has done a lot but has always been getting played by some writers
@MrKD1970
@MrKD1970 Жыл бұрын
No offense to Luke, but Sam as a mayor makes more sense. As for his part in the trinity, he only gets dismissed for lack of solo content. Panther would've remained in point had he not had the Storm relationship added to his history as well as the entire Priest run of his book. Sam was never allowed to flourish as much as Falcon as he is as Cap. His last Falcon book gave his a horrible costume as well as story. Cage as a leader works but he also needs to be fighting in the trenches. I don't think him as mayor would realistically allow for that. As fas as black mutants go, the black part tends to get lost on then unless they're fighting for Wakanda.
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
@@MrKD1970 Hmm Sam as mayor.....not to sure about that, not saying it couldn't be done I can think of things tgat would make it interesting. Such as ppl judging him as a black man running a city and him being a black cap (yt ppl judging him) and black ppl expecting him to not screw it up putting a lot of pressure on his plate, while still trying to balance his super hero life. As for the storm part that was her fault not his, she choose the mutants over her husband and ppl she choose to stay with and watch over. And till this day I hate that fans including the writers never let storm suffer from her bad decisions or call her own, tho at the end T'Challa was right not to trust the mutants seeing as they make terrible decisions and lack of judgment on who they work with (namor, Magneto, sinister, Apocalypse, Charles, Beast, ect) As for BP (especially) priest run some parts was a hit and miss especially the whole Wakanda being taken from the originators, even though they were the ones who enslave black ppl (wakandians) and their anger towards them should've been directed at their gods, though pls correct me if I'm wrong on that. But that doesn't come close to JR aka Uncle Ruckus aka Mr. Coon. Though one thing I always had an issue with Sam is his abilities as a captain america, he's just a cap that can fly and communicate to birds. I feel like he needs to get rid of that ability and focus on tech to add to his fighting style.
@MrKD1970
@MrKD1970 Жыл бұрын
@@ampocalypsew3883 I was thinking more of Sam being mayor either before being Cap or when he returned to Falcon persona. Either way with him not being Cap as they totally changed his persona from local hero social worker to international symbol for the Cap stuff. If you go back far enough, he actually tried running for president if I remember correctly. On the mutant front, I've found that marvel tends to write mutants as only being concerned with being mutants which isn't realistic. We're expected to believe that a panther party member and a klan member would be ok as long as they've both mutants? I think not!
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
@@MrKD1970 not gonna lie my knowledge on Sam is very limited, I kmow of how he originated and how he got the mental of cap. Though I do love the MCU version of Sam. The mutants literally invited two racist mutants who betrayed them, I swear there are times I don't mind if half of their numbers go down a few 100,000. But what would you like for your black trilogy?
@austintrees
@austintrees Жыл бұрын
I don't think people change their minds about a comic they don't like, it's just that most people don't ever say anything, and only a few loud mouths say they love or hate it.
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
The only ppl that will bring it up will he tge batman stans
@silverchicken20
@silverchicken20 Жыл бұрын
I do not like this run. At ALL! Nerfing this man to shit. After having multiple planets and beating back a symbiote fused "Killmonger"
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
Ikr T'Challa getting beaten by ppl that's less thn a street lvl, and having some self righteous bitch telling the empire he is no longer king. And don't get me started on Tosin with his tech bad we need to be basic African that we see on TV who looks poor
@Wilde316
@Wilde316 Жыл бұрын
This deconstruction is necessary to prove that Black Panther is actually a great character. Take it all away and he's left with who he really is.
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
That's already been done
@stevenclark6090
@stevenclark6090 Жыл бұрын
These writers don't care about black characters
@jackieanderson9408
@jackieanderson9408 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@draggoon9121
@draggoon9121 Жыл бұрын
Relaunch again...wtf 😒 that's why you can't follow these books... SMH
@FrederickAmadi
@FrederickAmadi Жыл бұрын
meanwhile Nightwing has over a 100 issues now smh
@jaybeeeasy
@jaybeeeasy Жыл бұрын
There no one is enjoying this run of BP it’s pure 🗑️. I was done with it after the 1 arc besides that I not a fan of the writer so there’s that.
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
Right, a self claim uncle ruckus is basically writing BP. Marvel and DC clearly dont gaf
@stevenclark6090
@stevenclark6090 Жыл бұрын
Why don't they ever write bp taking care of all of Africa and deal with the oppressors living there??
@ampocalypsew3883
@ampocalypsew3883 Жыл бұрын
I think they did, I could be wrong
@FrederickAmadi
@FrederickAmadi Жыл бұрын
Well, I understand why they wouldn't do that because that's unrealistic even for a fictional piece of work. The continent of Africa, as you know, is very diverse with people full of different beliefs, rich cultures and various distinct views and opinions. 54 different countries whom, even in the real world, do not ALL get along with one another and therefore cannot be expected to get along in a fictional one, especially in a world full of heroes, gods, aliens and other supernatural/scientific wonders, etc. If anything, the division would be even greater than what it currently is right now imo. Also, let's not forget that most of these countries are under constant corrupt leadership and they would most likely hold an antagonistic relationship with Wakanda (though not all of them) for a number of reasons: jealousy of Wakanda's power, wealth and resources; fear of being conquered; disbelief and unwillingness to believe and worship their feline goddess; distrust due to past relations, etc. Not to mention, we'd have to take a deeper look into Wakanda's history and its previous kings and their tenures. I'd wager that they did a WHOLE LOT of messed up stuff to not only gain power, but also to keep it. I'm sure most people in this day and age who know even an ounce about politics are aware that there is a lot of dark, shady things that happen behind the scenes in order for a country to maintain its dominance over others. Wakanda would be no different and if T'Challa were to agree to have a real sit down with these other African countries about all the shady stuff he and the monarchs before him have done to them to achieve and maintain his country's position, the world would be shocked and view Wakanda very differently. That would give the whole "Wakanda Forever!" a whole new controversial look.
@stevenclark6090
@stevenclark6090 Жыл бұрын
@@FrederickAmadi So is American, but it still ran by one belief
@stevenclark6090
@stevenclark6090 Жыл бұрын
@@FrederickAmadi Plus it's a comic book, he could be written to do whatever he wants. Every other heroes that is non black character does this
@_Spectrum_288
@_Spectrum_288 Жыл бұрын
I know this has nothing to do with the video but it's quite funny how people are starting to shit on the MCU after Ironman left... It just goes to show who the REAL fans are 🙄👀
@jaybeeeasy
@jaybeeeasy Жыл бұрын
It wasn’t after Ironman died but after they refused to recast T’challa
@_Spectrum_288
@_Spectrum_288 Жыл бұрын
@@jaybeeeasy Ok ? So what if they didn't ? If they wanted to keep Chadwick's legacy as BP they could.
@jaybeeeasy
@jaybeeeasy Жыл бұрын
@@_Spectrum_288 that’s my point for me them not recasting BP is and was a big problem to me. Plus imo it was complete disrespect to Chadwick not to recast after he himself said the role was bigger than him. Imagine them not recasting Storm for any reason I bet you would have a problem with that.
@_Spectrum_288
@_Spectrum_288 Жыл бұрын
@@jaybeeeasy I am a big fan of Storm but things like this don't totally bother me, so I'm just gonna say that even though I dissagree I respect your opinion.
@jaybeeeasy
@jaybeeeasy Жыл бұрын
@@_Spectrum_288 much respect to you as well I’m just pointing there is an agenda of disrespect when it comes to blk male superheroes. From Blade being a guest star in his own movie to Luke Cage not going in the MCU to not recasting T’challa to Sam Wilson not being able to win a fight. Truth be told look at how they nerfed Storm most she did in the last movie was make ice for Scott drink.
@shinobu19
@shinobu19 Жыл бұрын
This whole run SUCKS and we will never like this comic.. have you ever read BP? The characterization was horrible... Just one example, when Tchalla assembles his team and they are going to confront Jhai and the Avengers show up Tchalla is completley surprised... when does Tchalla not plan for the unexpected? Bad writing....also hes a galactic emperor. How can he be exhiled?
@Blacharrt
@Blacharrt Жыл бұрын
Naw, T'Challa's huge defeat was when Namor was smashing Storm in Age of X.
@damonpatterson8293
@damonpatterson8293 Жыл бұрын
Wow! T'Challa's enemy! At least he's a king unlike the time she was smashing Wolverine as a rebound. Mr. Harry Horndog himself.
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