Let's Talk About Nerfs...

[@bas__nm]

If people are saying Boreas needs a nerf, wait till they see Praetus in action. He makes everyone else in the game look like a sleeping infant.

[@ethanleblanc676]

You just made me look like such a hypocrite because I was in the nerf Boreas boat but y’all better not touch my Praetus. He IS an arbiter lord after all though

[@Binzob]

Okay so nerf both of them.

[@Novazite115]

@@Binzob or none of them?

[@Binzob]

@@Novazite115 nah Boreas is ridiculously stupid he needs a nerf. Just cut his damage down to a reasonable amount. Absolutely no reason he should just periodically insta kill half the map. Completely removed any strategy from existing content, and future content will therefore need to be balanced around him, making it impossible if you don't have him. It's been like 6 months since global release and already have a hero like this, not looking good for longevity of the game.

[@Novazite115]

@@Binzob sounds like someone’s just salty they didn’t pull boreas. But in all honesty no he doesn’t need a nerf, no one cried that hatsut needed a nerf when she was the best in the game, no one cried when elowyn is so good you don’t need another healer ever, there has to be better champs and worse champs otherwise there is literally no incentive for people to keep pulling shards. Just accept that he is the new “best champ” and when the next best one comes he’ll just be another good one.

[@KeithDCanada]

He needs to be nerfed, instantly and permanently. No argument against. I am seeing Arena teams at 100k, knocking out 250k teams, and the only fully levelled hero is Boreas. The way arena works now, with keeping one sides enemies on the field after the other side kills theirs, means his instant BLICK of the entire battlefield is just gross and overpowered. I am seeing him kill all the enemies that spawn at the top of the screen, before they even get to move off the red entrance portals.... that CAN'T have been the intended effect of his kit. It's no different that being against one champ in Raid's Hydra Clash, doing more damage than an entire clan because they have one champ with a 6 star awakening. It's massively unbalancing. Everyone I talk to on my discords that does not own this champs, refuses to even fight any Arena team with him in it.... It's a problem, and it needs to be fixed 'now'.

[@CucuBau111]

Well said, Ash! These calls for nerfs are getting ridiculous. It's a can of worms that shouldn't be opened. Imagine spending a shitload of money to pull this guy, or pulling a Boreas after a couple of shitty months when you only get Crached or Shamired only to have him nerfed. Insane. This guy is overpowered no doublt, but many heroes are. My Silas can nuke Void Nightmare boss in 5 secods, Valeria is destroying Single target PVP, Zilitu is puting out 250M in guild boss, and so on. It's a good hero, let him be one of the reasons the players want to summon.

[@refinedbass]

For real man! As soon as there is a video talking about how OP he is, devs nerf these guys into nothing. I’m not trying to have a roster full of Crach’s

[@ASHWatcherofRealms]

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[@UlricTheWolf]

Boreas is like 4 heros in one. He has Khamet's damage, Laseer's anti healing, Marri's freezes, and Idril's map wide ult. He dominates 2/3 areas in arena. Trivializes content to where to don't even need a full team. Oh and how are you going to buff someone to counter him in arena? The only way to counter him is to kill stuff faster. That would just ruin the arena even more. To have more champs doing what he does. All that needs to be done is to tones his map wide attack down to where its not so ridiculous.

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[@Pr4mer]

I have him but he has not opened up Stage 19 for me yet. Gear is still a very real threshold to advancement. Still working him up to help me through this stage.

[@dutchbozo]

Don't nerf an obvious broken hero because people summoned for him is the worst balance take I have heard yet. A good nerf doesn't break the unit, it just makes him more balanced. It's always going to be way better to nerf 1,2 or 3 units instead of buffing all the others. All people calling for him not to be nerfed obviously got him and abuse him, it's hard to feel bad for you guys

[@nerdmurder4961]

That edit with the guy sneaking by was so funny made my day 😂

[@ASHWatcherofRealms]

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[@KeithDCanada]

Don't want to lose value you have spent getting a massively OP champ when it gets nerfed? Don't spend an obscene amount of money to get an in game champ. It's your choice to dump a shit ton of cash in a mobile game to get digital property that you do not own. No one is forcing you to spend that way.... characters in these games get nerfed ALL THE TIME - there is no way this will come as a shock to you. The reason you want this champ is because you know it's reputation as being incredibly OP - and you know there is a decent chance it will eventually get nerfed.... If you are 'that' upset when your investment goes sour, you may want to think twice about your spending habits.

[@Candide0909]

Because people spend you get new updates, content, the game is free and there are no adds, so you better hope theres a reason for people to spend

[@WatcherofRealmsDemon-qc7zs]

IMO Boreas isn't OP in Arena. It's Venoma + Boreas that's making people think he's OP. I'm using him in Overlord but without Venoma (I only have Raiden), and he can barely clear things at 340k-ish BP. If even 1 mob survives I'd still need to wait 16 seconds for him to proc again. (He has to face upwards so when he ults he can reduce his aoe proc time with auto-attacks). His auto-attack is trash, he relies on his periodic aoe which becomes more frequent when he ults, which is why Venoma (which is even more rare) is required. Having her is what puts Boreas a tier above otherwise he's at the same level as anyone else. Without Venoma I know I cannot insta wipe waves at 350k BP with just Boreas. Lower BP sure, but that's not a Boreas problem. If your BP is too low for defending that's a you problem. I use Hatssut to do just under half the damage. The boost Boreas gets with having Venoma is like Silas when you get Veirna. Leave him as is. It's a gacha game after all. However I would like to see them significantly buff old heroes like Crach, Shamir, Brunor, Scorch which would make them fun to use.

[@dakodaarmstrong5]

I’m sure your gear isn’t perfect l. I have Cyrus so still a Lego lord but 1 one shotting anything under 420k is easy with his ult and the damage really isn’t the problem is the range

[@WatcherofRealmsDemon-qc7zs]

My gear is quite trash compared to whales, but I'm using the same gear I use to 1 key 50k on NM4. In the AOE arena I still use Khamet and AI, with Hatssut, Boreas, Raiden.

[@frostbreak2031]

Arena not Boreas vs everyone. It's a team battle or who have the better gears 😅

[@WatcherofRealmsDemon-qc7zs]

@@frostbreak2031 I agree... gears is a bigger factor for sure, and artifacts. I still have only ever gotten 2 tear of starlights after spending 150 huge stam pots that I saved forever, the RNG is broken as hell.

[@ASHWatcherofRealms]

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[@markswaggerty4958]

No dont nerf my guy. I’ll never buy another shard if they nerf my only good fucking champ

[@SandroOli]

Boreas need a nerf he is being a beast in both arenas… the only one that he is not a boss is the single arena… otherwise he is the only dps that wins against everything… it’s totally unfair… we battle a lot to win against the gr1 21… I saw players that didn’t spend 1 month doing the 21 just because this hero… totally balance breaker

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[@samuraikid9369]

I don't know why you guys want to nerf him... he is a legendary he has to be a legendary... some legendary are bad other good... If u nerf him I'm done with this game seriously...

[@dailygratitude9466]

Lovin your positive vibes my friend. Keep passing along the love. It makes a difference

[@ASHWatcherofRealms]

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[@mazeli691]

Ash, you were very happy with your analysis. I'm f2p and Boreas changed my account. I couldn't get past gr1-14, with him I reached 18. If they nerf it I think I'll be very sad, he's my best character now.

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[@jut10Wor]

The issue I have is when you nerf after I’ve invested the mats for skills. If they nerf then they should offer the option to reset his skills to recover those crystals and dust because I made the decision to invest based on his performance. Would be super sketchy otherwise

[@THEWraithKing]

The Blue Man carries me through everything. A few of my friends have him maxed or close to it, so I just wait until reset and then put this guy on my team. And then all those missions I've been struggling with in the campaign turn into easy mode. Part of me doesn't want him nerfed because I basically own the guy but he is pretty darn powerful.

[@ArtoriusTheOne]

I am so agree with you! Totally! update: next update no one get nerfed, on contrary some heroes got buffed up.

[@nathanatkinson8048]

Ash can we get a video on Boreas, gearing, artifact, how to use him in gr1 and gr2. ?

[@ASHWatcherofRealms]

Sure- I will make it happen soon ;)

[@Filipe_Russo]

They need to change the range of his ultimate, that's it. I don't mind his damage, anti heal and freeze. I mind him facing backwards to the mobs spawn in arena and him destroying them as soon as they spawn with that range. I have no time to kill the ads and lose so many points.. even under level players. That's just ridiculous

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[@philbrailey4028]

One thing I haven't seen mentioned anywhere that probably needs addressing is he actually is 'broken' in campaign. All the mobs that's are supposed to be invisible unless blocked or you can only attack if you have a character on a particular tile his ice burst just kills regardless. Is super useful for progression but can't imagine that's working as designed!

[@staticecho9251]

im only hear for the edits, Ossama is a twisted genius 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. love it

[@ASHWatcherofRealms]

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[@masterfreak1928]

Today I got Hex and Boreas and i was so freakin' happy and then i saw your Video and you said Boreas needs a nerf. Very bad timing ;) But thanks anyway for all the nice videos. I love them since i start plaing raid about 1 year ago.

[@l0lcas829]

Hi Ash, i want to unlink my Email on my Account? There is no way to do it right?

[@squizill]

He's too OP for arena

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[@HailCarnage]

im not the biggest fan of nerfs either, but Boreus is a bit crazy, doesnt need to be a huge nerf, but there is no other hero that can compete even if their buff was "One shot everything they hit" cause boreus already does that across the map lol

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[@grinchways7922]

I have him.... happy als but sad to say he is broken in pvp and all places.... he's top dps everywhere there's mobs no 1 comes close....he needs adjustments.... to be full screen like that and as strong he is a I win button unless you cross a better 1... overlord aoe pvp is now his.... adjustment and make fair.

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[@richardrivera240]

Another thing, last night i was pushing PvP, and i notice in my matches, i was doing more damage in game play to the monters or creatures when my oponents have less BP, it was really notisable when i face a oponent with higher BP that me, and my Wrath who normally kills the creature pretty fast to for ever to kill it and my oponent didnt have a champion down on his side. I though it was a glitch. But it seems that when i face higher level oponents my heros do less damage to the monters. Is there a way to verify that?

[@JW-sz5bk]

Verified. That's the design. The monster levels change based off off the highest BP player.

[@sporostuw9767]

yeap the monster bp was the middle of attackers and defenders bp and in the last patch with the new arena they changed it

[@Azhalan]

It's not only that, Moonton also need to buff the couple of abbyssmal heoes like Crach, Azhor and Shamir. And I mean substantial buffs. It's very frustrating to get to your pity timer and pull one of those.

[@ASHWatcherofRealms]

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[@lamarh2891]

Edit. I don't understand the concept of Power Creep when you have tons of epics, rares, legos that are viable. Look at Raid who have over 200 rares & only 7 more or less are useful.

[@SenseiTumbleweed]

They aren't viable in arena except maybe cost generators. While you can beat content with epics and less used leggos, it doesn't mean that Boreas is not 5-10x more powerful than all of the mages, fighters and marksman. He can be used to beat all 3 GR 21 pretty much as a solo dps; if you don't have him in arena you usually lose every battle. That is power Creep... you either get him or you have to use characters that aren't anywhere as near as powerful.

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[@dakodaarmstrong5]

I have him A1 and he needs a nerf the problem isn’t his damage it’s his range and globe hitting it’s just too strong. Or just reduce the amount of total hit able enemys

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[@MrToasty8705]

Played Marvel Strike Force for 3 years. 2 of those years my account was a top 100 account (high of rank 70 ish before quitting). The major problem with releasing new characters, especially really powerful ones, the "lesser" content like campaign modes, become extremely easy. I happened to pull Khamet then Boreas during my first week playing this game. At first, I was pissed that I didn't pull Vierna, but soon learned that I probably came out on top. Vierna is probably a better mage (still don't have her so I wouldn't know), but with Khamet and Boreas alone as Leggos, I was able to get 290+ stars in all campaign modes. I am struggling A LOT in arena (minus AOE mode) as well as the the gear raids but Boreas was able to absolutely destroy all of campaign mode. Most enemies died before reaching my tank/melee/healers setup to protect the soul core. Elowyn/Hollow/Laurel feeding Boreas and/or Khamet energy to constantly ult and you don't need a tank most of the time. Boreas is absolutely nuts. The videos I have seen on Praetus + some arbiter friends makes Boreas look like a common not a Leggo. Praetus truly seems like a cheat code or instant win button though. Worried about what he and the upcoming characters will do to the current content and current Leggos. Eventually, the only solution to power creep is a full rework of old characters that usually involves boosting base stats AND giving them a new power/talent that makes them on par with the current meta. At this point, the game becomes an infinite loop of re-working characters which MSF liked to re-sell at full prices to the newer players. Greed of the part of the developer is what makes/brakes these gacha aka hero collector games. If the developers are overly greedy, players will start coordinating spending strikes or even go as far and create a players union to try and stop the developers milking the player community dry. So far, WoR has been rather FTP friendly. Hopefully the developers continue in the same directions. Just be prepared for anything... MSF was once one of the top earning mobile games. Now, it barely has a community left that still plays the game. RIP to the good times in the infancy of MSF.

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[@ModernMyths]

I am a F2P and actually pulled him. And I honestly don't use him that much. Mostly I need to get the right gear on him first. But the thing to remember is it's not just the champ. Yeah, he's op. But you have to put the right gear on them as well. In the Arena, my teams are now just hitting the 200K mark. And I'm beating teams that are over 100K stronger then me. I look at placements, timing my ults and such and I get super far with much weaker teams then what I'm facing.

[@Eaton_Beavers247]

I’ve only been playing since Christmas. I spent a lot of money on this game (a game which I knew nothing about), just to get him. And, I’ve spent a lot of money since, because I’m having fun. HOWEVER, if they nerf him, I’d leave SO fast. I’m not a “whale” per se… but I’ve spent more than most. If they don’t want to scare away spenders, they should NEVER nerf champions that were the key focal point to marketing campaigns. It would be a disaster.

[@ASHWatcherofRealms]

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[@DirtyRoomKnives]

I agree 100%. I pulled Orim instead of Boreas so I'm salty about it, but nerfing is a bad direction to go.

[@Ninja_Gaiden]

Speaking of Metroidvania, I have been playing Metroid Dread.

[@jackstraw1756]

Alistair was a breeze to get compared to anything in Raid.

[@Auskaa]

I panicked and hoarded alot of stamina for Alistair, but indeed he was really easy, privilege pass helps alot also

[@wwemplayer]

i started playing a bit to late, i only have 180/200 fragments :(((

[@DemonicEmperor2023]

​@@wwemplayerI have spare 30 wish I could give you

[@Peter75C]

I went on a weeklong cruise in the middle of the Alistair fusion, and had no cell service for days and days, and I STILL got him.

[@Unborn_Seed]

Why start this?

[@RebeccaSaunders-h1c]

Of course nerf Boreas. I mean hes been out forever. What, going on two weeks now? Just because nerfs dont affect u because u have soo many heros to choose from doesnt mean it doesn't devastate us normal players. I pulled Boreas day one. If they nerf him, im done with this game. What's the point of having a shiny new toy only for its creators to destroy it right in front of ur face within the first month? Shameless.

[@gianlucapinelli6807]

Dude, he’s OP

[@merpaderp.___.4648]

What makes you think nerf means "destroy". They could alter his numbers slightly and it would be very healthy for the game. Mate just look at aoe arena it's horrible

[@dakodaarmstrong5]

Just say you need a broke hero to feel good about yourself. I have him a1 and he needs nerfed way too strong

[@Korovamato]

​@@merpaderp.___.4648ehh idk, I mean yes he is extremely strong, and him being extremely strong everywhere is a bit broken, butt... Aoe arena might not be the best example. Yes he is one of the top heroes there, but then we have to look at other heroes that are there too, like Hattsut has no problem clearing the 1st wave before the other team has the opportunity to even build up to 19 energy to place him

[@Korovamato]

Every video I've seen talking about whether they should nerf him or not basically boils down to "no", including this one. Chill dude, the thumbnails and tittles might make it a bit unclear, but they're all still on the same page with you / us

[@Novazite115]

I agree with your take. people need to understand that a game like this is inevitably going to have better heroes and worse heroes. Whats considered OP today is not going to be OP in a month or a couple. There needs to be some better heroes to incentivise poeple to summon. Some will be lucky and others wont, people consider hatsut as one of the best heroes but that doesnt mean she needs to be nerfed. People just gotta accept that this is how these games work.

[@Binzob]

If Boreas is not going to be considered OP in the next month, might as well quit the game now.

[@ASHWatcherofRealms]

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[@LancerX916]

I just wish they would allow us to just outright buy the characters. I went hard on his summoning banner and got Orim twice, but not him. I spent 0 dollars, but I would have gladly spent $30 or so for him if they had offered it. That is what I like about Marvel Strike Force, you can buy or just wait to get the characters, it's all up to you.

[@Rotgobber]

Thats something Plarium would do, I hope Moonton never does this.

[@acegusqowy]

@@Rotgobber Moontoon straight up sells legendaries, bro. You can hate plarium and still realize it's more likely to occur in this game hah.

[@LancerX916]

@@Rotgobber Why? How would that hurt your game experience if players can buy characters? Like I said, MSF has done that from the start. If there is a character I really want I will pay for it and if I don't want them I will wait for the shard events to get them. Does not change the game if the Krakens have them first.

[@Rotgobber]

@@LancerX916 selling a random legendary from set factions is still gacha, its not great but definitely better than taking a top 5 character and saying just buy it. It ruins the quality of Gacha mechanics especially for dedicated f2p or low spenders. gambling is fair when everyone has to take a chance to get what they want even if they spend. Just look at how many people were upset about Xena warrior princess being sold on raid shadow legends with the battlepass

[@LancerX916]

@@Rotgobber Yeah, keep telling yourself that. Works fine in other games, but I guess this one is special, huh? This game does not have enough PVP game modes that allowing people to buy the best characters gives them any advantage over anyone else, even the F2P.

[@weslatam3952]

I stopped playing Raid because I played for over a year and had only pulled 8 Leggos. I have been playing WoR for 2 months and I have both Alistair and Boreas. I also have 9 other Leggos. With that said, nerfing someone like that who has brought so much to my progress would be maddening

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[@Zinaken]

Boreas is the only reason I was able to push content as a very low spender. The dude sky rocketed my account

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[@blicholasblomini9133]

The gr2 sneak edit made me laugh lol

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[@acegusqowy]

There is a slight issue when a hero has such ridiculous crowd control AND damage in a game, really messes up pvp content and starts making synergy worthless when someone can excel at all roles so you don't need to build others around him. 1 hero shouldn't be the best at all things imo. Maybe they just need to remove his almost global freeze or the freeze interval.

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[@Itzaraya1]

Blasphemous 1 and 2 are fantastic!

[@paytonruth714]

Shhh!!! Please don't.... I love Boreas just the way he is.

[@MikeWolfMan]

The name most likely cam from the Northern Lights Aurora Borealis. Borealis/Boreas. I really don't understand why they didn't stick him in Northerners Faction. He's all about the ICE. As for OP characters, yeah, I'm struggling and behind, really behind. And yet I play every day and every night. so Boreas, Ardea, Falcia, they'd be account boosters. Nerf that jerk "Judge" in Arena. My Arena losses tripped since they added Judge. He helps the opponents more than the players. At least finally FINALLY make all Rares Awakening's available/unlocked. Stretch the utility of the Rares. They nerfed Lightlocke early on in the game, last year, and i don't have a problem with that. My Lightlocke is as maxed as can be and he's my best healer. My Kria is magnificent, so, if she gets any better, i can't complain. I have Kria built better than the other AoE mages. Zilitu, if all the best characters, needs a Buff. She's too much of a Glass Cannon. Her survivability sucks without a healer focusing on her.

[@Radude88]

Praetus, above all, is insanely overpowered and needs a definite nerd.

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[@epic7hatesmesez320]

lets be real why nerf him and not hatssut whos low cost and can instant AOE ulti and dominates aoe or air arena and gr 3 or 1 .... + as you said praetus is more OP then boreas and for me i am with ash on this instead of nerffing units buff the weak ones with real buffs not like kria who had a useless shy buff ... its like what happened in League of legend they could not keep the balance so they buff all units that way no one will complain .

[@Bleachguy2023]

i agree if you say boreas needs the n word then you have to throw hattsut vierna khamut and alot of others in there they are in there own league for a reason

[@dakodaarmstrong5]

I have him and hatssut and it’s a joke to even compare the 2. He does more damage from across the map he range is the problem not the damage

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[@Mewla_Aliapoh]

It's easier to nerf one champion than it is to buff a hundred others

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[@imherenow8]

well, I am f2p and yes I am saying it..... DON'T NERF HIM BECAUSE I HAVE HIM! introducing nerfs is a slippery slope man!

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[@INSOMNANOMS]

that awkward moment when you been watching for months and just realized you didnt sub

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[@riccilaponsie5197]

I personally don't agree with nerfing Boreas and I don't even have him, I like the idea of buffing some of the weaker legendaries that option seems more acceptable. A big reason being that I feel nerfing Boreas would be a huge slap in the face for those who were lucky enough to pull him in the first place

[@paytonruth714]

I stopped playing Raid when they nerfed a character I spent money to level up. It was such a bummer.

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[@fresnokila3]

Still on the first Blasphemous myself. Also need to finish Metroid Dread. Have the bad habit of starting too many games at once.

[@vulturnuszan]

one of the biggest problems I see in game balance is the developers more often than no nerf things from overpowered to below aeverage/useless. take the cadaver or emic nerfs for example. It went from unbelievable overpowered to almost useless. Seems impossible for developers to adjust something so its still viable and fun without being game breaking anymore. I'm not talking about just raid though many games seem to have this problem.

[@icejoe6534]

he should be 100% nerfed withut question. i can not compete in arena anymore, im f2p and i couold compete and get to overlord(and actually loved PvP in this game unlike raid) and now i have NO CHANCE AT ALL!!!!!! unlike raid i could compete in pvp in this game and now i just cant...

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[@Horlianz]

TLDR: I agree with Ash that a nerf would suck and counters are a good Option. First of all: Thank you Ash for another great Video! As someone lucky enough to get "big bo", i would hate to see a nerf. I dont want to know how many auto-battles would break if he got changed to be weaker. I am in a early to mid-Game progress. 2 Gear raid 19 clears and 1 gear rate 18. I need to try to use my best gear on the account to push 20 / 21 soon, or else i feel like getting stuck. Big Bo is the reason i cleared quite a few stages and i would have wasted alot more time if not for him. Even with him, i cant do everything, because my Gear wont allow it. Sure if you got lucky and have some God tier gear, you can "abuse" him in a way that he does alot. But most of the time creators say "look i dont even have good gear on them" or "see, i even removed 1 item to make it so everybody can use it" the BP Scores / Stats are as high or higher than the best gear on my account can reach. I spend tousends and tousends of energy the past weeks on farming gear. Most gets sold because the sub stat combinations are bad. Of the ones that make it through, most dont roll well or dont roll well on the good sub stats that the item has to offer. So people do not only have to get lucky to get such a charakter, they also have to get lucky getting the fitting gear. Without "Big Bo" i would need more good gear so the other charakters I have can perform the same as him. That would only mean even more grinding. Free gear swap is great, but also eats up alot of time and if you remove the top gear of one charakter and dont swap back, you break other auto-battles, so that is not a permanent solution. If he is to strong in Arena, add in some freeze resistant Enemys. Suddenly he does not do as much dmg, because he can not use his full kit. Just an idea. Thanks to anyone who bothered to read this.

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[@thrasher3222]

My opinion is that Boreas does not need a nerf. So he's the new #1 hero in the game, that's ok, someone has to be. Everyone just had a chance to get him easily, and I assume that will happen again. If we go with a nerf to Boreas how about one to Hatssut as well? How does everyone feel about that?

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[@MrEvenStranger]

No no no, leave him alone! As more people pull and build him, the issue will resolve itself in a normal, healthy way.

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[@RJ77S]

Boreas is my only legendary, I’ve invested a bit in him as a new player. They need to cater towards people like me who play this game who doesn’t want to spend money, and people who don’t have any other good legendaries.

[@TheHighKingKeo]

I agree that nerfs are generally not the play and powercreep is normal. That changes for me when something is not just strong, but totally busted. Dominating PVP and completely trivializing multiple progression stages for gear and literally ALL of campaign. You have to actively look for areas whete he isnt the default choice... Boreus isnt just strong, hes busted. He doesnt need to be made weak... he just needs to be tuned so he doesnt wreck 90% of the games content and trivialize the game.

[@kgirona830]

I'm a FTP and when the setrum/boreas banner was here. I went all in for setrum. i used 250 blue summons and 9 divines. I got 5 legos and none was setrum but I landed Boreas. Boreas helped me clear gr1-19 and 20 and gr2-20 and 21. He is doing what he was designed to do. Read his ultimate and it says he does massive damage and by God that's what he does. He is helping people like me and NOOOOOOO he does not need to be nerfed. If you nerf him then you must do all the other ones that are very powerful too but do they all need one. No they don't. It would be like a gut punch to small players like me. Great video as always and thanks for not screaming nerf like some CC are doing. Oh, BTW watch that pratues video where he 1 shots the GR2-21 boss at beginning of fight. Now that's way too powerful. thanks for the video and keep them coming. Good job

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[@ΝικόλαοςΣπαντιδακης]

I will agree with you. Personally, I spend 800bucks to be able to have him and enjoy him. If after less than a month they nerf him, I will feel robbed, and I will lose any interest in the game.

[@brokenvhonor7883]

I'm not top experienced in these situations but in my opinion if a character is released and is the best in the game, regardless of if he's hard to obtain or not, they should be balanced so that they don't cause an issue in the game. If say 30% of the F2P players happen to get the broken hero, they will be able to easily clear things they wouldn't be able to without them, while the other 70% are just SOL on that lucky progression

[@Seven3four1]

1000% agree on NOT nerfing boreas. I played destiny 1 and the Gallarhorn was a similar case. The main difference being in destiny the gallarhorn was all you needed to nuke everything in the game. Boreas to me is very strong but if you don’t have good supporting characters or decent gear he won’t get you through everything. I’m 100% on board with leaving him as is for the non-whales out there who boreas would be a game changer for. The only thing i think moonton should look into is his proficiency in the arena (pvp). But even then he might be fine because of his cost and the new way arena works.

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[@VombataYT]

Great video. Listen and learn ppl. Buffs >> Nerfs / We dont know what ppl have, let everyone enjoy the game. Make more heroes viable.

[@joshuaeaves6827]

Just cause they are "strong" doesnt mean everyone has the gear for them...... makes me push that much more to get better

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[@gasbeegaming3767]

I just got Boreas and man it helped me a ton in gear raid and arena. Now, i can understand that people want a bit of a nerf inside arena, because he is killing everything before it even moves. but then maybe make it an "Arena nerf" so he cant stun them, or they take less frost damage or something like that. I dont see the point of nerfing him outside arena. it might just be me. But im not a whale, so i dont have many hero's to choose from then it comes to Gear Raid. So having one like Boreas with high dps and control is a blast. And it don't really matter (out side Arena) if he's strong. It dont affect other people's account, if im able to clear 1 or 2 stages better now. And just because i get him, doesn't mean that i have won the game.. Gear and artifacts is a huge facter in this game. And not to start talking about maxing him? Legendary skill dust and Crystals.. man.. It's so hard to come by as a "small" player..

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[@ERichard4534]

These comments illustrate the intensity of fear people have about a nerf - which we all know is needed. Whether Moonton has the balls to do it is another thing.

[@MdnightWnd]

The only reason people are so mad about him is because of his power in arena and guild wars. But nobody's talking about Silas or Hatssut or any of the other OP heroes who also dominate a lot of content. If they nerf Boreas, they need to swing the same bat at them.

[@sporostuw9767]

HUGE no to nerfs in general, this is why forerunner servers are there for ppl to test new stuff before they released and this is why content creators are exist to test and recoment to invest or not, now we invested everything in him to get and build him (skill ups yes) we deserve to be able to progress like the ones that already did. those who didn['t got him the will get the next broken champ, will they want to get nerfed after 1 month? this is FAR away from profesional work, this is bait and switch method which belongs to scammy tactics, so just test your stuff before you release them ffs

[@epameis.1224]

these comments are full of people who say one of two things: 1. nerf him cuz i dont have him or 2.dont nerf him cuz i have him. The fact is he needs nerf. big one too. he can single handedly clear gr1-21 and aoe arena is auto win with him. he is the most used in apex overlord aoe arena for a reason. he even is top10 in anti air as well, somethings gotta be wrong.... ofc there are other characters who need nerf as well like praetus, elowyn and valeriya but people arent ready for this conversation cuz these characters carry them.

[@WaReaper]

Well in Aoe arena boreas like a cheat code, I am 81 lvl with pretty good gear sets, I have cerberus, hattsut, a2 khamet, a5 atrox, vierna and other powerful heroes but I can't bet a 65 lvl guy with boreas at 180k bp, (I got around 300k) because boreas kill mobs even before they move. It was okay to accept I can't win all the time but after that apex arena I need to push and some random 65 lvl guy farms me even I had pretty good comb and good tactics

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[@hendradewanata]

Boreas nerf is actually good for the developer, cause by having boreas it could demotivate you on getting new heroes, except if youre a whale who wanna get new heroes for the sake of collecting them, but most people are not, a lot of people who have boreas will skip this week banner for example, why do they need hex if they have OP hero like boreas? The only minus boreas have is that he didnt have place in the new content like immortal codex yet, but the significance of new content is so minimal to the gameplay overall.. So either they nerf boreas or make the new content more impactful to the game, introducing new OP equipment where you can only get it only from the new content that could motivate player to beat the new content..

[@Bleachguy2023]

il give raid its due on monthly logins each month has a free login hero early on its epics then a few months in you can start getting free better heros like a scyl maybe a bit much to ask from WOR but would be cool

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[@keithstevens3934]

Nerfs are fine, as long as they give us the opportunity to get a rank down option and all resources back. That is only fair.

[@andrewgraves4026]

Ash, you’re pretty good at this! Your points are good I tend to agree. When heroes DO get nerfed, the nerfs could be unobtrusive. He nukes the whole battlefield? Can shorten the range a tiny bit. He kills everyone? Could cap the kills, or cap til A5, etc. What you said about counters seemed rite on, too.

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[@greisquirrel]

Boreas makes my Heroes look like Burritos in PvP

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[@demonzhradku3517]

I am a F2P player and nerfing legendaries is like shooting an arrow through the knee, because I dont have 50 other good legendaries like other players, so having him is very nice for me. People should stop bragging for nerfs when they are spending 1000 dollars and have 20 other legendaries that they can use, because if nerfs happen, I can just stop playing because it is pointless having luck once and then they will take it away.

[@Krimtech]

If anything I think the AOE should be nerfed to not be "stage wide". This being tower defense style and with placement being so important, I hate how Boreas just bypasses that entirely. Almost 0 skill is required to use him, just place anywhere in arena and win.

[@GOODEN102673]

If they nerf blue bo then its only right the players that paid money and shards to get him should be compensated because it's the reason why so many pulled for blue bo or are they gonna spit on all the players efforts.

[@rothliv2141]

Nerfs ruin games often resulting to said nerf hero being obsolete. Buff weaker heroes to get them close to boreas strength.

[@user-mcm756]

No to nerf, just upgrade the drop on gear raids, I've been farming gears in stage 18 for a week now,and not a single drop on ancient mythic gears!

[@yuna-stray-dog]

18s have a lower drop rate on ancients.

[@chessWoRpire1449]

I agree with you, I'm a f2p if they nerf boreas they would destroyed my teams btw i use him everywhere his my main damage in guild boss his must in gr 1,2,3 and promotion and exp and campaign and void rift etc. I got boreas by going ham on his banner and got 3

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[@duallaud]

If Moonton's characters start to annoy you afterwards, you should consider that buyers will want their money back, and/or will not invest in this game in the future with the thought that the character could be weakened again. and let's be honest, if you started with boreas you would have to follow ardea, valerya, praetus etc. that makes no sense. You should check the characters for game balance before releasing them. If this is positive, the characters should be left as is.

[@pbjtime0]

I’ll say it. Don’t nerf him cause I have him.

[@MrFlappy-os2rr]

People will be furious if they need him even people who don’t because they will not be happy he is not #1

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[@MrFlappy-os2rr]

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[@Joni.koci111]

Lets be honest tho if they intend to keep puting harder content into game they should not nerf him ,ofcorse he and Valeria are makeing the arena a nightmare to push but thats the good thing about this game you have a chanse to get any hero sooner or later we will all have him so no one have to bee bitter about it

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[@Krdw610]

There are so many champions that need to be buffed, make the game harder if you have to, but nerfing champions is not the answer.

[@richardrivera240]

Hi, Ash, i think not just Boreas other heros too, i been playing for 44 days or so, i been lucky to pull the some of best DPS heros in the game, that includes Boreas, and i been cruising through the game so fast and i am lossing interest in the game, i have stop playing campaing cause i am 3 staring everything, i am at 300k and 400k BP and 3 staring content that is said 600k requier, i am normally a spender, i havent had the need or want to spend on this game, the truth is the game is to easy, it needs a rebalance. The stratagy aspects of the game are great but not nesesary challenging. Raid Shadow Legends was more challeging, specially with debufing the oponents to get through the next level, it forces you to adapt with teams that normally are not favorble but cool, it makes it fun, Watchers of realms is more like, "here is a tank and here is your damage, done next" debuffers are not needed for progressing, is like they are not need it in the game. Boreas could easily be two heros, their is no point in having a hero that has control when the hero nukes the whole board and kills everyone. I dont nesesary change or nerf the hero, i would fix the content. A little more HP here and there, more resist on some oponents.

[@TAGSProle]

He should be nerfed, but wont. He's carried people though content and those are the ones that'll complain the most and in the same breath he shouldnt because everyone should eventually have that carry through content if they were lucky to summon him. What should happen is they need a slight nerf and then buffs to other heros to bring in a balenced system, not just one stand out champ. The best would be is to bring in a new synagy with other champs so there are other top tier team comps, like boreas is powerful because of freeze. So what about burns or poison comps, release a enabler for the debuffs like boreas to freshen up the hero pool and have some of the lesser used champs a viable use

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[@Pausalno]

Fair enough, the problem is PVP, I dont care about PVE let him stay. How do you counter limitless reach, except limitless reach of other counter champs? If the premise of the board game is reach, tiles, and strategy, then you put a guy who has non of those limitations, you break the rules and break the game! Agree with the rest but either make his cost like 50 in arena or make him do half the dmg.

[@marink701]

In raid, there was never really THE BEST champ in the game although one can say that there were definitely some that were beasts in their own field (support or dps) For example Acrizia or Brogni, but one could always very well get by with alternatives which always had something awesome in their kit that the previously mentioned two don't. It's the most sought after champs let's say. This is WoR. and it has no more than 150 heroes. I don't mind that there is a #1 hero in a game whether there is or isn't a bigger fish coming..and in most cases there is. "No king is meant to rule forever my son" :D

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[@asaltycracker5623]

Arena is almost unplayable without him

[@outshined8341]

If boreas needs a nerf because he is op in arena, then hatsut will be the next, and after her someone else..

[@MetaGames-bi5bb]

buffs are the only fair way to go.

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[@petersjokvist2078]

For us f2p lucky enough to get this Guy its kinda sad hearing all the nerf talk coming from people with all the other op champs not getting nerfed

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[@GartheBerserk]

I'm a free to play... I've never spent money on a gacha. You know what I think? Nerfs are good. Buffs are okay but nerfs are better than buffs. If any my champions are too good I'm actively happy when they get nerfed because I'm not a selfish immature twat-dumpling. Hell the only reason I still play Summoners War after like 7+ years is how often champions are rebalanced in that game. That being said, I'm not sure Boreas deserves the nerf. Dolores and to a lesser extent the games coding is the real problem. Also nerfing champions in this game is kind of whatever given it's very heavy PVE slant and the fact that some champions are just bad in some content, though Freezey B probably comes closer to a put him on every team ever DPS champion than any other in this game. He still isn't near the top of my list because he does have something resembling a weakness. "PvP" in this game is pretty much a joke as far as being an actual competitive system. It's not as bad as the low points have been in Raid... But I don't think I've ever played a gatcha with worse PvP than Raid.

[@rambomontana412]

Only Nerf when a character has a bug that gets exploited

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