Let's talk about those Criterion Collection Announcements

We got some new announcements from Criterion - their blu-ray and 4K UHD releases for June 2024 (in time for a Barnes & Noble sale!)

[@ElliotCoen]

Next up, watch my recent controversial video on Criterion films with better versions - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJjEdIubZ6yie6M

[@EthanWasHere]

I would like to take credit for Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas getting a 4K release. I bought the bluray during the last flash sale.

[@ElliotCoen]

Your sacrifice has been noted by the Criterion Gods.

[@roachman1412]

That's funny I kept debating about blue velvet I new it would get a 4k bought it anyway during the last hour of the sale

[@1977Suspiria]

I knew Blue Velvet wouldn't be too long before Criterion upgraded it, it's a popular title. I never bought the BluRay specifically because I was holding out for the 4k. Bound & Victims Of Sin are exciting announcements. Victims Of Sin especially which has never been easy to come by to see certainly not in good quality & English subtitles for it aren't easy to find either, I imagine that will be a new discovery for a lot of people & it deserves some light shining on it because it's a fantastic film with a beautiful story & very moving final third.

[@justonefyx]

When are they going to release Barry Lyndon on 4k?!

[@ElliotCoen]

I don’t know but sooner rather than later hopefully 🙏

[@MiloFPS]

Warner Bros might release it on their Warner Archive label or even a mainline release.

[@NmDPlm31]

And thankfully I held off on the Blue Velvet blu, so the 4K lottery paid off for me.

[@ElliotCoen]

I love it when that happens!

[@NmDPlm31]

@@ElliotCoen It's kind of a pain sometimes. Especially when the studio puts a 4k remaster out as a standard Blu. A lot of times I just hold off and wait to see, but sometimes you just don't know.

[@shadowtrooper3764]

Yeah with most films its tough, but I figured since the other David Lynch films have been getting this treatment this one would too sooner or later.

[@NmDPlm31]

@@shadowtrooper3764 Which is exactly why I waited. I saw a lot of folks burned with the Robocop Blu-ray from Arrow just to have the 4k version hit a year later. So if something hits in Blu I tend to shy away for a while just to see.

[@kelownatechkid]

More Terry Gilliam on 4K is just what the doctor ordered! I want Brazil next 😀

[@theblackswordsman9951]

Thanks for keeping covering these even if it doesn't get a lot of views. Imagine it takes a while to edit these.

[@ElliotCoen]

My pleasure. I always enjoy talking about Criterion and their releases!

[@user-zd9yn5mz1f]

Been years since l have seen BOUND. Will have to check out the new Criterion release. Thanks for the notice!

[@adamdbowman]

I've been holding off getting the regular twin peaks bluray set in hopes for a better edition

[@jehangirthegreat]

We need once upon a time in America extended cut 4k on its 40th anniversary hopefully

[@chrisjfox8715]

I was expecting that one of David Lynch's criterion bluray releases was going to be getting a 4K upgrade in July. I own all of them and out of all of them, Blue Velvet probably needs 4K the least, relatively - it looks outstanding. But I'm still excited to grab the upgrade. This is the nature of the game. Anyone collecting just has to weigh likelihoods when a bluray doesn't have a 4K yet. It's been like 5yrs+ since the Blue Velvet bluray came out

[@philipmarinello8802]

I am just insanely excited for The Underground Railroad! I can’t wait to rewatch and then watch again with the commentary track 😁 Might also need to get with some friends and do a supersized podcast extravaganza on it 🤔

[@joegiammatteo]

Super pumped about Bound! I have Blue Velvet criterion on blu ray already and don’t feel the need to upgrade. I feel that way about almost every criterion blu ray I already own.

[@ShedSoundsMediawithIanBeabout]

I popped in my copy of Blue Velvet, it looks very good indeed but I could certainly tell a difference with Lost Highway (comparing 4K to blu here), so as a big Lynch fan I think it’ll be worth upgrading during a sale. 😊

[@j0n.p]

My rant a few weeks ago about the selections made by Criterion holds up pretty well.

[@TTD94]

Since Criterion has worked with Disney before, I’d love to see a Daredevil box set under their label. I think it’s definitely a series that deserves to be in their television collection.

[@pivris9790]

Respectfully, that would never happen

[@daveanderson4600]

I can't imagine that happening, but (as yourself), I would absolutely love that and Day One it.

[@mrhoeivo]

So excited for Bound! It and Blue Velvet always occupied a similar place in my mind, so it's funny that they got announced together. The only US release of Bound is long out of print, so it's wonderful to know we're getting a Criterion release. In 4K to boot!

[@midlevelmedia]

Good announcements overall. I’m excited for “Bound” and “The Underground Railroad,” but I already have the Arrow 4K of Fear and Loathing and I have a hard time upgrading Blurays from Criterion, especially when they look as good as Blue Velvet did. Great breakdown!

[@ElliotCoen]

Well said Ken. Cheers for watching!

[@thisisarcana]

Was going to pick up the standard Criterion of Blue Velvet to upgrade over the standard UK release, so kind of glad I held off to pick up this 4K version. Hopefully we see some differences with HDR but I assume it'll be negligible between both Criterion releases.

[@ElliotCoen]

Yeah I think you’re right. I’m not sure on current UK rights for Blue Velvet but we could see it get a UK Criterion on 4K? Could be worth holding off for

[@thisisarcana]

@@ElliotCoen Fingers crossed for that! I kinda was under the assumption that since we didn't get the original Criterion blu-ray, we might not get this one. Hoping Bound hits the UK too since that's been on my watchlist for a good few years at this point.

[@RodneyAllanPoe]

I only own the first BLUE VELVET blu-ray. Bring on the 4K.

[@tjdw5251]

I literally just got the Blue Velvet Blu-ray imported. Yh I'm not gonna upgrade this because the 4k will look only marginally better and the blu-ray looks great anyway. This is the main problem with being in the UK as basically I have to be careful what I order and import because once I have a release from another country like the US then it's not like I can take it to CEX get somethin and then be able to upgrade it, I am just stuck with it and without going through the trouble of setting up an ebay account and trying to offload it then I can't get any money back from it and I am stuck with keeping it in my collection taking up space, so I can't really justify upgrading stuff that I import really. I am much more likely to upgrade something to 4k if the previous release i have is a UK release so I can just take it to CEX. It is super annoying. I wish that consumers in the UK weren't so stupid that CEX wouldn't do a Imported section. Cos how nice it would be for collectors to be able to buy and sell used US blurays, but despite how thoroughly explained to some people that would inevitably just lead to more issues than it is worth as general consumers will just buy them and then they wont work on their players. It is funny because occasionally I do see some US releases in some random CEX shops, even region a locked ones, im not really sure how that happened. Is weird that even imported stuff from Europe so its still region b CEX wont bother with either. But yh basically importing is a risk and I am stuck with what I get. Like I got the original Child's Play trilogy 4k a year ago from Shout Factory and then I have got the Arrow 4k set recently because getting the whole set was actually cheaper than getting the other 4 imported it turns out, but now I am just stuck with Childs Play 2 & 3 4ks that I just have but can't do anything with. And theres a couple of others that I got as well like the Psycho 4 Blu-ray that got replaced by the Arrow 4k boxset that I have on a shelf here that I can't get rid of.

[@4knate]

I am with you!! We need Brazil in 4k!!!!

[@sicofreg]

Oh boy. I got Blue Velvet a few months ago and haven't even watched it yet, so of course a 4K version will come out now. And Twin Peaks!!? God I hope that's true. That is one I will happily rebuy.

[@ElliotCoen]

The Blue Velvet Blu-ray is a great one so don’t worry too much. And yes, fingers crossed for Twin Peaks.

[@ModernPlague]

I wish it had been _Brazil_ that got the 4K upgrade instead of _Fear and Loathing,_ but it's still more Gilliam in 4K, so I can't really complain.

[@kmhofmann]

I’m very happy that Blue Velvet is getting a UHD upgrade. The Blu-ray has video encoding issues in several key scenes with macroblocking in the shadows. It’s an opportunity for Criterion to fix this on the 4K disc, although NexSpec/Pixelogic or whoever does their encodes don’t have a great track record, especially with some recent titles. Well, fingers crossed…

[@TomBatesYT]

On Criterion's Twitter they shared what looks to be screencaps from their Fear and Loathing 4k. There's an orange tint going on in the color grade which I'm thinking is revisionist to how the film is supposed to look. I'm happy keeping with my Arrow release until more comes out on that.

[@teemusalonen7419]

Well, blue velvet 4k restoration is region free now for international fans! I'll buy it day one!

[@LinouGertz]

I never got Blue Velvet on blu-ray because I thought it would be getting a 4K and I can't wait to see how it uses HDR! But I already have Fear and Loathing on blu-ray and will probably upgrade to Arrow Videos 4k instead for another extras etc. Other than that, I'm so very hyped for Bound and The Underground Railrood! Might be blind bying Querelle also because Fassbinder never let me down.

[@Jizag123]

super torn between getting the 4k upgrade of blue velvet and just being satisfied with the blu ray for sure will only get it on one of the 50 percent off sales but i havent really been satisfied with the quality of mulholland drive and lost highway

[@Dan89201]

I wonder if blue velvet 4K will come out in the UK

[@sg137iu]

Having just purchased the blu-ray of Blue Velvet about a month ago....I laughed when I received the Criterion email announcing the June 2024 4K releases. I'll probably trade-in my blu-ray copy to a local shop at some point but I'm in no rush to pick up the 4K (which is still 3 months out, so that may change). Question for you: Have you done any coverage or analysis of 4K players? I've been using my PS5 but the pass-through of the single HDMI out really affects the sound quality. I think I'm going to look into a proper 4K player but wasn't sure where to begin. As always, thanks for your input and the time you put into these videos. Cheers!

[@JohnSmith-zl8rz]

Glad to see Bound

[@ElliotCoen]

Yep great film!

[@monkeybillkrs]

Bugger! Just bought Blue Velvet Criterion and received it 2 days ago.

[@ElliotCoen]

Don’t worry too much as I don’t expect it to be a huge upgrade. The Blu-ray was struck from the same 4K master

[@k.p.7559]

Elliot, I saw the other day THE RULES OF THE GAME on 4K UHD, some scenes looks better but I don't think worth's the double dip! We must stop wasting money when we can safe and buy new releases!

[@CameronGallagher96]

I wish 4K re-releases weren’t considered “new” releases, and not included in “new” lineups from Criterion (and others) Especially when it’s from the same restoration. This really means other than the 4K discs prints, no “extra” work was done in restoration. I still appreciate it, but I always hate these take the spots of potential new releases. Love the videos as always!

[@ElliotCoen]

Totally agree Cameron! Thanks for watching

[@zeecobra1044]

The Arrow 4K was approved and presumably supervised by Gilliam, not sure if the Severin is using the exact same one. My bets are on that the Criterion uses the Arrow scan.

[@ElliotCoen]

I don’t think the Arrow 4K was approved or supervised at all by Gilliam (the previous scan was). More info here ´Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas has been exclusively restored by Turbine in partnership with Arrow Films and is presented in its original 2.35:1 aspect ratio with 5.1 and stereo sound. The original 35mm camera negative was scanned in 4K resolution at Company 3, Burbank. The film was restored in 4K resolution and colour graded in HDR/Dolby Vision by LSP Medien, Uelzen. The SDR grade from Arrow's prior Blu-ray restoration served as the primary grading reference, which was supervised and approved by Director Terry Gilliam’

[@ColombianThunder]

Literally bought Blue Velvet last sale so gonna have to skip the upgrade haha

[@ElliotCoen]

I can’t predict the future but I think you’ll be fine with the Blu-ray! Same restoration used, no new features

[@ColombianThunder]

@@ElliotCoen I feel the same as well. I had considered waiting because it might have had a 4K but figured it would be the same transfer anyway so I'm happy!

[@chrisjfox8715]

For what it's worth, that bluray release is one of the best examples of how great a bluray can look imo

[@ModernPlague]

I wish it had been Gilliam's _Brazil_ that got the 4K upgrade instead of Fear and Loathing, but I'm still pleased.

[@ericgeneric135]

I'm looking forward to The Underground Railroad and Querelle.

[@gabriel-sz9zf]

Once you buy Victims of Sin please post a Criterion review on it, as a big fan of Mexican cinema I would love to hear your thoughts on it.

[@akajkyt]

Twin Peaks???? No way… Well I’m never gonna be able to afford it anyways 😭

[@cheebagardens1759]

I already had the dvd & non-criterion versions of Boue Velvet I decided to buy the criterion blu ray during the flash sale. I haven’t even opened it and now there is a 4K coming? WTF?

[@KirkRedgate]

I’m chuffed with Blue Velvet coming to 4K. I have an old standard Blu-ray, waited for this day to come. That’s why I still haven’t bought other Criterions like The Breakfast Club. I know the 4K will come out eventually. Until then I just watch the old Blu-ray. I already have the Arrow Fear & Loathing 4K, another great film. I wish Arrow or someone would release Withnail & I on 4K. 🤞🏻

[@enriquecabada8841]

i already have fear and loathing 4k from arrow and criterion bluray so im good on that, blue velvet i will pass since nothing new on the 4k disc im fine with my bluray the one i want most is bound i have the olive bluray and will definitely upgrade. the rest will wait and see depending on reviews criterion doing TV shows is intriguing hopefully they will do more, an OK month of announcements blue velvet is definitely the one to get especially if you dont have the bluray

[@ElliotCoen]

Sounds like a good plan. Thanks for watching Enrique!

[@LennyNero2019]

Forgot to mention that after Paramount's Four-in-One, UHD-BD-DVD-Digital Copy $10.99 releases, consider argument that UHD discs are 'expensive' bullshit. It can no longer be used as an excuse of 'why no 4K'!

[@thegrasshopperliesheavy]

Criterion Riki Oh 4k WHEN

[@byjakeburgess]

what's your letterboxd?! :O

[@Dan89201]

If criterion are releasing limited series, fingers crossed for normal people

[@LennyNero2019]

I don't think I ever bought Blue Velvet ever since DVD, so probably will upgrade. Also very excited about Bound! But I've got both the Arrow and Turbine mediabook of Fear & Loathing, so not buying that. Don't know anything about 'Railroad', but would love more other TV series in Criterion Collection. That Querrelle cover looks so AI generated, it's sick. 😂

[@erikwagonblott3334]

WACHOWSKIS IN THE CRITERION COLLECTION LET'S GOOOO

[@modestyblaise4167]

Bound for me, but I’ll stick with my 2K of Blue Velvet.

[@danieltuval8879]

I have to say that's a rather negative spin on blue velvet.i have the blu ray and the 4k remaster was spectacular. To the point that it beats out alot of actual 4ks I own.i have absolutely no problem with them using thar remaster.i own alot of 4ks that use the same remaster as previously released blu rays and are night and day on a dedicated 4k disc because the film now has room to breathe and the hdr/ dolby vision as,we know can add so much more depth to the image ,even more so in alot of cases than resolution. So if encode and bit rate are good.blue velvet will look spectacular of that I have no doubt. As does mulholland drive and lost highway

[@ElliotCoen]

Not that negative of a spin really. You're absolutely right - the blu-ray IS spectacular. The UHD will provide room for improvement but it cannot be that big. 99% of people that own the current Criterion blu-ray will see no reason to upgrade, I can guarantee. This is not like a dated HD master being upgraded with a new 4K restoration, like Criterion's Branded to Kill 4K, which was a night and day difference in quality. Thanks for watching and providing your thoughts on the news!

[@gregorpfueller6659]

The Blue Velvet upgrade is very welcome because for some reason criterion decided to put the film and all the specials on one disc… which is insane and completely unnecessary… there is so much stuff on this… several hours in HD so the bitrates are lower than necessary to reproduce the grain structure proerly. The 50minutes of deleted scenes had higher bittates on the old mgm blu ray and it shows… So now with the new 4k at least the film will be properly encoded. With the proper bitrate it deserves…

[@sexymonkey-zw5zq]

As I'm sure you know, Criterion also have blu-ray counterparts also taken from the same 4k transfers, just on 1080p discs, not 4k ones. If their new upcoming blu-ray of 'Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas' IS in fact also the new restoration, then I might consider re-getting it. I wonder if there is any way to confirm if it will be just the previous disc r the new one on blu-ray. Their presentations are of such a high standard, I mean on the 1080p discs, that I'm just fine with those, but, I've personally never felt thee desire to upgrade to 4k myself.

[@stevemuzak8526]

Every blu ray from 4k restoration is coming to 4K.

[@JohnSmith-zl8rz]

People are start hate the AI cover on Querelle lol

[@ed1rko17]

It's becoming more and more clear that Criterion have no sensible release strategy for their upgrades. Every month I am just baffled at what they are neglecting while releasing the most unwanted and random upgrades.

[@ShanghaiRooster]

If you look at it from a point of view that they're upgrading films first where they already have a 4K master ready (same as Arrow really) then it makes sense, even if it's frustrating for fans of certain films not to see those getting the treatment. Making a 4K master is far more costly than one for regular blu-ray, so they'd also have to consider whether the cost is financially viable for a film that might only have a small fanbase.

[@AA-ws3vd]

Before I even finished the video, YES. 4K times over YES. The home theater geeks are crazy about a device called Kaleidescape. Such movies MAY NEVER STREAM IN THE HIGHEST QUALITY. CHANGE MY MIND.

[@kristian_goddard]

Does the 4K release of Blue Velvet mean it’s now going to look like a crap soap opera? Greetings from Wilmington NC.

[@starwars4427]

Im so happy that Bound is getting added. Not just cause its a fantastic movie but as a trans cinephile seeing the first openly transgender filmmakers get into the collection is just so so exciting

[@spaceodds1985]

Excited for Bound, but will wait and see if Arrow will do an upgrade (that’s if they stillhold the rights) Already own Blue Velvet on the Criterion BD. No interest in the other titles

[@fmulder1989]

At the moment imo Criterion is overrated. Far better labels out there, EUREKA, Kino Lorber, even indicator.

[@brunomachado7279]

Criterion is going downhill, you yourself pointed this sometimes. Too lazy, too repetitive, too "woke". It simply is not the same thing anymore.

[@ColombianThunder]

Oh please, give it a rest. They've always been presenting "woke" movies. I don't understand why you're having an issue with it now.

[@chrisjfox8715]

​@@ColombianThunder because rightwing media spent the past decade+ influencing them to

[@ElliotCoen]

I may throw some valid criticism towards Criterion every now and then but I’ve never said any of those things. I don’t think I’ve ever even said they’re going downhill - maybe less forward momentum in terms of unearthing lost classics in favour of bigger titles. The woke comment is boring. You don’t have to like films made by or about black people or gay people, but plenty of us still do

[@tonywilthshire308]

@@ColombianThunderit’s always been an issue

[@AnjektusStudio]

Yes here in 2024 so are people whitout any profil picture saying that everything is woke when they don't like something.

[@peetypete13]

They need to release a Gangs of Wasseypur movie set.

[@mudslideinmypants5891]

I’m a bit disappointed with June’s titles. So many options out there they could’ve went with but Criterion kept it safe