Let's talk The Last Dab Experience! A little saltier and angrier this time! I TOLD YOU SO!

[@MorbidPuppy]

If you're a chili head who's been in this hobby for some years, this absolutely IS a big deal. To have the largest producer of spicy food blatantly lie to this level to increase sales is immoral, no matter how one looks at it. If an alcohol producer is known for producing the strongest liquor there is, and it comes out that their 75% ABV Rum is actually 40%, no one would ever defend that company. People just refuse to take Ed off the pedestal he has been on for so long.

[@TFGPKW]

Quite an accusation towards Ed... Let's just say, hypothetically, that you took some pods, doesn't matter the varietal, removed the stems, seeds, and membranes/placentas from the pods, then made a sauce out of what was left, which wound up constituting 91% of the sauce using still the pod, perhaps slightly over 91% once distillates and powders were added, would that not meet the letter of the labeling if that's what you put on there?

[@ModernSurvivalSense]

The sauce is marketed on Hot Ones as being 2.6m SHU. @@TFGPKW

[@AB-88]

​@@TFGPKWwhy does hot ones advertise this sauce to be 2.6 mil shu?

[@shawarrior]

I can't agree more to this. I got the sauce in pretty shortly after it was available and thought mad dog 357 was wayyyy hotter. Turns out it wasn't just me, haha! I'm pretty disappointed with it because I feel like what I'm eating isn't pepper X and was hoping to at least be able to get a profile on the flavor, but now I'm not sure if I even ate true pepper X.

[@TFGPKW]

@@AB-88 You would need to ask Hot Ones/First We Feast. Ed is not selling this sauce (of any of the Hot Ones branded line) directly. This is a Heatonist/First We Feast sauce and none of us knows what they requested from Ed for that. What we do know is that despite him producing a lot of the other branded sauces of theirs, they went with someone else for the Buffalo, which means they're pretty clearly strongly influencing, if not outright dictating, the direction of their branded line...

[@thechugdude]

Let's not forget that Hot Ones displays a 2,693,000 scoville rating beside the bottle of The Last Dab XPERIENCE on every episode. 🤔

[@markpalavosvrahotes5575]

I think we better change that to 61,019 Scoville units. Put Da Bomb Beyond Insanity as the last wing as it is by far the hottest sauce on the show.

[@ModernSurvivalSense]

This is a really good point. The show is THE major advertisement for the sauce. Mistakes can be made, but if Ed knew this sauce wasn't 2.6m scoville, then it was incumbent upon him to have Hot Ones correct their reporting of the SHU. Otherwise, he's knowingly misrepresenting the sauce for the sake of selling bottles.

[@TheHungryHobo]

yeah I've always thought their numbers were over-exaggerated for years. They really went overboard with this fake pepper.

[@outragequitter5027]

Watching the show, it’s always been clear that the last dab wasn’t the hottest sauce. For YEARS it’s been obvious that the two sauces before it destroy the guests and the last dab always just got a “that tastes better than the last one” reaction. Don’t get me wrong, Ed is a weird guy, but a lot of this is on first we feast.

[@markpalavosvrahotes5575]

@@outragequitter5027 No I’m a weird guy. I don’t like to associate with too many individuals because I am too different. I have Asperger’s. Ed isn’t weird he’s just full of capitalistic greed. We tend to associate weird with not good when they mean totally different things.

[@Zmann86]

I wonder if Ed will find himself on the wrong end of a lawsuit in regards to that sauce. How can you claim it's over 91% pepper X and then backtrack and say that people don't actually want really spicy sauce? He lost a lot of credibility with that one.

[@MrWilderNapalm]

I'm not an attorney but it sure smells of misrepresentation to me.

[@awestacular]

Not really trying to defend Ed, but maybe they weren't mature pods. I mean, it would still be pepper X, but not as hot.

[@enriquewilliamsteeny]

I think he’s trying to chokehold the record! Something is up! I think he pays off someone in the lab for the WR. I think someone was close to breaking his record and he smelled it coming and scrambled! Pepper x is a fraud. There… I said it…

[@markpalavosvrahotes5575]

@@awestacular It would not be as drastic a difference I can say that. Also there is no way that pepper is 2.6 million Scoville.

[@awestacular]

@@markpalavosvrahotes5575I meant for legal reasons. Legally it could be stems and leaves but still be pepper X. I'm just saying a lawsuit isn't likely.

[@johnathonhiner3015]

And another chapter on this journey, old friend I respect you for your honesty....never bend....never change.

[@FLEX.609]

You're not lying about the hot sauce it isn't that hot he just ripped a lot of people off for the money $28.00 plus tax a bottle is ridiculous

[@markpalavosvrahotes5575]

That bottle to me is worth no more than about $8.00

[@TrevoltIV]

If it was ACTUALLY made with like 60% pepper X (91% is essentially impossible if you want a thin enough consistency), I would pay like $15 maybe.

[@GernaderJack]

61,019 SHU, Ouch…. I’m Curious why Ed would false advertise saying it is 91% pepper X. Is it a lie that the sauce is 91% Pepper X or is it a lie that Pepper X is 2.67 million SHU. Inquiring minds want to know.

[@ChaseTheHeat]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[@Krunch2828]

I got johnny mints are probably hotter then that

[@AcidKiller83]

it has 9 and a 1 in the SHU

[@xismxist]

I think both! pepper x is a scam, and so is the pepper content in this sauce

[@Feeldaburn]

It should be lava in a bottle but it’s not !!!! I roasted it a little on my review …. It’s definitely not worth what I paid it’s a disappointment and false advertisement

[@Smokkedandslammed]

Scovilation without representation! If the 91% doesn't fit in the bottle, YOU MUST ACQUIT!

[@GarbleSlew]

Ed’s reasoning is pretty silly. I don’t doubt that the vast majority of people don’t want their faces melted by their food. The people who go out of their way to buy a sauce that is advertised as being 91% made of the hottest pepper on the planet absolutely DO want their faces melted off. There’s a massive difference in expectation between a sauce that just has Pepper X in it and a sauce that just IS Pepper X and it’s disingenuous of Ed to pretend that he doesn’t understand that.

[@GarbleSlew]

I swear I paused the vid at the Ed stuff and made my post. I didn’t expect Tommy to say the exact same thing immediately after ha

[@noyoudontgettoknow8586]

maybe he should have 2 versions of that sauce one for normies and one for people who want to take a heroic dose.

[@Ragnar009]

The thing is, what Ed said sounds like he's justifying a lie. Just don't put 91% pepper X.

[@whiteyvandam2180]

Johnny Scoville you are the man, keep fighting the good fight!

[@Trevlee74]

There is no way this is by accident. Truth is Truth. And Ed’s brand is going to take a hit. And it’s deserved.

[@Mr.Salty.]

Thanks for being an incredible human with the integrity that I wish everyone had. Keep being great Johnny!!! My wife and I are sending you good vibes from Alabama!!!

[@sharonchandler4185]

61,019? That's not a Tesla....hell, that's not even a Ford.

[@jjasper7512]

And a model T at that!

[@NoName-ub3zv]

I just had this sauce before watching this and didn't find it that compelling so I started looking. The extreme regret seemed to get more of a sweat going than this. Thank you dudes. I respect your hustle.

[@bobanderson7209]

Truth is the truth and I appreciate you for your truthful opinions on hot 🔥 things. You promote what you find good in life and give honest opinions from your experiences. Raising questions and searching for the truth is a good thing; sad to say there are more sheople than people in this world. Keep doing you.

[@ligushan]

100 percent behind you Mr Scoville. So glad your standing you’re ground. Facts are facts and there’s no amount of hot air that changes it.

[@ZyronZA]

Please make sure that YOU'RE checking YOUR grammar before you post.

[@samueljackson856]

good on you johnny for getting this out. stick it to the man. fuck em. voice of the voiceless. love u bro

[@reeldeal5367]

Ed will be left with alot of bottles of sauce.He should be so ashamed.He has just had he pants pulled down infront of everyone and guess what it was not as big as he claimed 😂 The book of records should be checking this.

[@LeeFarina]

He's probably made his money back and then some for producing this sauce the amount he's charging for it 😡

[@phoneaccount206]

The book of records should check the bottle of hot sauce? Lol why. The pepper has the record, not the sauce lol

[@reeldeal5367]

@@phoneaccount206 won't let anyone try it or let it out to be tested and if 91% pepper x with just vinegar ED'S OWN words.why test at 61019shu do the math .

[@desertratsummers]

The book of records got paid they don’t care

[@sagalobart]

I'm from Chile (the country), i really want to Buy that spyce salsa. I'm very angry and disappointed, i really want to taste the heat. Is very sad and a shameful, that type of people only cares about money. Shameful pepper X. Keep the good job Johnny.

[@Maj0rB00thr0yd]

Are they going to claim that they mean that 91 percent of the pepper used in the sauce is from Pepper X and not 91 percent of the actual sauce? Because that seems like a kind of sleazy lawyerly way of using that wording on the bottle.

[@devinweidner5383]

Very smart point of view. Imagine if they literally only use 91% of a single Pepper X Pepper in each bottle. And then dilute it accordingly. It would most certainly represent a close comparison in SHU that Johnny received. Of that, I am near certain...

[@markpalavosvrahotes5575]

But hopefully no one falls for that loophole.

[@weslightburn8902]

I'm so glad you made this video Johnny, I can see how much passion you have for this subject and for peppers in general. And like you said when things don't make sense you have to figure out why. I just love the way you think. Thanks for setting things straight. ❤

[@flaminjackson]

Thank You Johnny

[@haroldresnick6058]

I just watched your video, and you're brutally honest. I don't know how much Last Dab Xperience costs in the USA, but here in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, it's sold at a store called Showcase for $50. That's just as bad as it not living up to it's alleged SHU rating of 2.6 million. You just save me 50 bucks!

[@zane4575]

So false advertising is ok for heat in sauce because most people don't want the heat that's advertised? Genius logic.

[@heli0s2003]

I just bought this bottle for $22. Before I tried it i wanted to see if you had a review. Im so disappointed now. Thanks for getting a real lab report.

[@chrisgoth2030]

Well done Johnny! You have a big name in the heat world.

[@skyemaclachlan5182]

The two of you are the most fun to watch! Thank you for the joy!

[@ChaseTheHeat]

I don't reckon the people at Puckerbutt enjoyed this video too much

[@toneranger7813]

After listening to what Ed said, that was straight dishonesty. 99 whatever percent of people who like spicy food don't like it brutal. That's the whole point of the Last Dab. Brutality and reactions. To top that off it's over $30 a bottle. Marketing gimmick. They advertised it like you were consuming liquid pepper x. 91% of 2.67 million is 2.43 million. Most people couldn't tell a difference.

[@xismxist]

61,000 x 40 is 2.44 million... so this sauce is approx 40 times(!) less hot than advertised

[@markpalavosvrahotes5575]

Honestly Pepper X probably isn’t even 1.5 million SHUs.

[@ferencivanics9980]

From all the pepper mesh that's inside, 91% is pepper x, the other is some red pepper. They don't say how much mesh is inside. Is it possible to figure it out with the help of the content list? Can this be some tricky-legal lying with wording?

[@Mike-tj8gh]

Dissatisfied customers have reason to be upset. You guys work well with each other.

[@toneranger7813]

@@Mike-tj8gh Haters will hate when they don't like the facts presented.

[@markt8443]

I left a comment on another video about this sauce so this is not surprising. Not only was it not hot but the taste was horrific that I threw the whole bottle away. The only redeeming thing was it was a gift so I didn't have to fork over the $25 bones... Thanks for the update....

[@RyanHandel]

I felt betrayed and robbed with the EXPERIENCE sauce!

[@reeldeal5367]

You go guys the sauce should be refunded for an over priced class action will work pepper x is not what is being said Eds lawyers will be busy

[@LeeFarina]

I purchased this for the exact same reason you did. Because it was supposed to be hot.

[@JasonP-fp5ys]

All this does is validate your knowledge on heat Mr Scoville!!! 🔥🔥🔥🌶️🌶️🌶️🔥🔥🔥

[@ChaseTheHeat]

I’m not a liar like some

[@JasonP-fp5ys]

@@ChaseTheHeat and that’s why we love you my friend🤛🤛🤛

[@jjasper7512]

Really appreciate the honesty in calling this stuff out, I'm completely new to the whole scene, have learnt so much, am fascinated how scovilles affect people and how tolerances can be built up. One thing is clear, Mr Scoville knows hot stuff, future bottles need J Scoville says it's hot as a quote and that's the end of the matter, cause that sucker is hot!

[@JasonP-fp5ys]

@@jjasper7512 I have followed Johnny for more than 6 years. I can tell you that he is a man of Respect, Honesty, and Integrity. His knowledge of heat, and anything hot is second to none. Welcome to the chili pepper world🤛🤛🤛

[@ModernSurvivalSense]

61,000 SHU seems like fraud. If you sell something as being 91% of a particular item that is supposedly rated to 2.6m SHU... and it is less than 3% of that heat level... this screams 'bait and switch.'

[@discordia013]

Classic marketing ploy. 91% of the PEPPER in that bottle is Pepper X. The rest is additives. Water doesn't have to be the 1st ingredient in the list and I note that there are NO PERCENTAGES given on the list of ingredients. That should be a red flag.

[@ModernSurvivalSense]

Percentages are never listed and the only time additives can be excluded is if they are deemed "insignificant" in quantity and have no technical or functional effect to the product. It is not legal to have 97% (the difference between the scoville rating of the pepper vs the sauce) additives and not list them. @@discordia013

[@kithkani]

not to mention from that comment 91% pepper x, how could you not make the that inference when the ingredient list is as follows: Ingredients: Pepper x pepper, distilled vinegar, pepper x pepper powder, pepper x pepper distillate. Thanks for keeping em honest Johnny.

[@Diogenes1360]

> Appreciate your excellent detective-work on this matter . . . Cheers !!!

[@74midwestgardens86]

😂 We all knew this was coming! but still couldn't wait for the proof!!

[@phoneaccount206]

To everyone upset that Hot ones claims the bottle to have a total of 2,6mil Scoville units. What the site acutely says is (The Last Dab Xperience is the hottest sauce on Hot Ones. It's made with Pepper X, now officially the hottest pepper in the world according to the Guinness Book of World Records, averaging 2,693,000 Scoville units!) now if you took that as if the bottle would have that same number is all on you. And you would be wrong

[@ChaseTheHeat]

Don't put words in my mouth. What I have stated form jump street is that it is a 5 ounce bottle. "Over 91%" of the 5 ounces is comprised of Pepper X which is 2.69 million SHU. I didn't print "Over 91% Pepper X" on their label. You get that right? THEY printed on the bottle "over 91% Pepper X". Pepper X is 2.69 million SHU. It came back 61,019 SHU. Defend that. No double talk. Explain that. Oh yeah, while you are at it, explain how a sauce that is comprised of 91% green peppers is red. We'll wait.

[@ChaseTheHeat]

This sauce shouldn't just be HOT, it should be ridiculously HOT and it is simply not hot. Stop thinking about the people behind the sauce. Has nothing to do with people. This about a sauce. This sauce doesn't make sense and needs an explanation. I feel for you if you are unable to see that.

[@ChaseTheHeat]

Watch this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYbFdp9qqpaiedU

[@phoneaccount206]

That comment wasn’t directed towards yourself, was aimed at the comments saying someone is gonna be sued for not being the SHU as claimed. I just didn’t see the part they claimed +2mil SHU for the bottle? You’re not wrong at all, we all wanted the bottle to be hotter than it was and the bottle being red instead of green or yellow is very questionable. Claiming the bottle is 11/10 is also pretty absurd. There’s a lot of hotter sauces out there. The pepper has a good flavor just needs more heat!

[@phoneaccount206]

That video definitely shows them claim it to be around that heat level. They need to put more heat in there! Very short of the claimed

[@ian-ericroussel3976]

Thank you Johnny for being honest even if it meant you would get bashed by those with financial interest in this sauce. I call it having the courage of your conviction but I’m sure you knew the truth could hurt you. Keep being an inspiration and take care of yourself.

[@Adam-cw2ew]

I just love you guys and your relationship. Much love and only love.

[@hairynose656]

maybe they remove the seeds and or rinse/boil them. I pickled peppers before and they we're way less spicy then when I had them fresh

[@Ragnar009]

I've always wanted to get a last dab sauce and I finally did. Plain and simple, this is a moderately hot sauce. Nothing eye opening. And my tolerance is down right now. I just had the chance to try it, and thought this video was the best place to post. The reaper or scorpion salsa from pepper Joe's is just as hot. I've had a dozen sauces hotter. Just my opinion.

[@user-zw7dd7dt5y]

Gotta take into consideration the result was in wet (sauce) form while almost all hot sauces with ratings on the bottles are in dry form, including hellfire doomed 2.8 million. A 2 million or even 1 to be generous sauce will never test as low as 61k wet, so there's that.

[@ChaseTheHeat]

There is no way to deconstruct this sauce and NOT arrive at the same conclusion. It is a sham and nowhere nearly as hot as it should based on the numbers THEY put on THEIR OWN BOTTLE.

[@doop00]

What's the point of releasing Pepper X Hot Sauce if you're just going to make it tolerable for the 99% of all people. Money, of course, but it's disappointing and kinda false marketing.

[@robertzehm]

Blatantly false marketing.

[@doop00]

@@robertzehm Yeah the problem is the label, if it's a good tasting sauce with decent heat then there's no problem.

[@kevingibson2717]

Thank you for doing this, Johnny.

[@peterb6836]

This explains why my reaper sauces are way hotter then the bottle of pepper X I bought... And clearly overpaid, I paid 40 euro which is a rough 50 dollars to get a bottle of it here in Europe.....

[@JasonP-fp5ys]

MIC DROP 🔥🔥🔥🌶️🌶️🌶️🔥🔥🔥

[@terjegjertsen6361]

Thank you❤ ❤65$ in Norway...😅

[@Cloud30000]

Another great video from Johnny and The Tampon Guy 😂

[@jeffsadowski9244]

I mean theres a reason i bought 3 bottles of thors hammer hot sauce. It tastes amazing and its actually very spicy.

[@MylesApart-fu3bp]

I paid extra to get a bottle shipped to Scotland. And I was disappointed. I have hotter hot chocolate in the cupboard. At least you called it like it is Johnny. Well done mate.

[@thirdeye5718]

Im tired of liars getting passes nowadays. Thank you for exposing this fraud. Isn't this lawsuit worthy?

[@Mr.Wolf89]

I’ve watched this video a few times, just to hear you say “victory butt” haha.

[@Magna_pinna]

You’re doing Gods work Johnny!

[@sethhayes-j1l]

I was terribly disappointed in the heat level of pepper x after ordering the hot ones kit just for that sauce since it was exclusive there.

[@TheSwearWord]

💥🔥 Thank you Johnny for sharing these results with the community! 🔥

[@KickAChicken]

oh man i was wondering why this sauce was not the hottest i tried even with 91% Pepper X which i heard was the hottest on record. How does that work?

[@MrandMrsBee123]

You sound like a spicy food reviewer. Nice job Johnny and Tommy, thank you.

[@lonnieatk9120]

Maybe it's 90 plant and stems. 1% pepper?

[@DigitalCheezBrgr]

Less heat than a good hab.

[@devinweidner5383]

I love me a good Hab 🍻 The Red Savina is still the fruitest I've ever had 🥳

[@MrDigitalGrey]

The problem for me is they went on hot ones and had the Guinness book of world records verified they're pepper as the hottest in the world. This must now be investigated to make sure that there is no shenanigans going on between pucker butt pepper company and Guinness book of world records this is now a credibility issue for the Guinness book of world records I hope something's been done about it

[@T4ZSK1]

3:08 "I'm a lot like you." ...he says to his freaking clone :D

[@SnyperMac1]

I keep hotter stuff straight for dipping chicken nuggets. I think that may be the least spicy of them. It’s unfortunate but hey it is what it is.

[@Chilimancer]

I though Corey Feldman was the comeback king. 😂

[@chillimamabird4566]

Haha 😂 yup

[@archdawg5688]

I dont care what anyone says you two where Pirates in another life!

[@brandonwill8301]

worst part is the last dab would never sell as well as it dose if Hot Ones where not on the label

[@mikeposenke2345]

I wonder if they accidentally made a bad batch. Some people tried it and said it was insanely hot. Others tried it, and their bottle was not so hot... who knows!

[@SullyStuff]

I was very upset by this sauce also. Recorded it for the Xmas livestream for ChilliChump if u needed an extra reaction to go by. I originally think I said it was about a 4 but when comparing against some of my other favorites like the Naga Monster by ChilliChump or Troy Primos sauces were hotter by far I’d guess this was about a 1.5 on my level.

[@nicklausjohnson-yn2qk]

🎉 love that. Whats your Brother's channel????????🎉

[@ChaseTheHeat]

The Lifeboat. Link at the end of every video. Cheers

[@pixeldragzgamez6194]

Great video Johnny from the uk !

[@bobanderson7209]

I went to subscribe to your channel, $4.99?!?! All I can say is WOW!

[@ChaseTheHeat]

Subbing if free that’s for additional content over and above the channel. There are 5,170+ vids you can watch for free. Bonus stuff is $4.99 a month. Nobody is twisting your arm. Trust me you’ll never get through the 5k free ones.

[@ChaseTheHeat]

Most channels have several tiers ranging from $5 to $20 a month. I have one level. Pick something worth complaining to complain about. Cheers

[@bobanderson7209]

I was just looking to do you a solid and give you another subscriber as I watch your show every here and there. I see it for free so the charge threw me for a loop. Kind of like your researching X Pepper hot sauce, you just got salty with me doing what you were just saying other people were doing to you. I never seen a pop up with a charge for subscribing on KZbin before but then again, I don't subscribe to many channels.

[@RobertSmith-eb9xu]

Makes sense now!

[@mrikesterful]

ALL I CAN SAY IS "WOW" 😮😮😮😮

[@seanhogan830]

Even more concerning is what they charge for a bottle. 22-28 dollars?? Gimme a break. Glad I never fell for it. Thanks for the video, fellas!

[@hymnodyhands]

91 percent ... did they take the placentas out, and that's the nine percent missing? Yes, I know it is 91 percent of the sauce ... but I'm finding myself wondering if what they are doing with Pepper X is not using the hot parts. I was considering some of Puckerbutt's beginner-type products for purchase later this yet ... but I'mma slide right back to Willie Pete's and be content...

[@francem831]

And, not only that? Look at the damn price of it?? Part of a marketing gimmick, too.. I mean, we love ya regardless. Speak the truth. It’s all we ask. And thank you for that. ♥️👌🏻💪🏻

[@ChillPill365]

Johnny - I propose that you send in 10 of the most common/well known "super hot" hot sauces on the market for analysis. That would be super interesting.

[@TheQualiyt]

Science doesn´t lie. False advertising does.

[@jjasper7512]

Bet those butts are puckered now!

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

I can understand Ed is concerned about getting his product recalled after what happened to One Chip Challenge. But he needs to be honest in his marketing and not sell customers a normal hot sauce as if it's a world record product.

[@hance1976]

I havent had the sauce and likey never will. Im very curious to see the second labs test results though. The sauce lit up Roger from The Hot Dang show a decent amount and most that have had it say its pretty hot but not stupid hot. That makes me wonder if the labs results are correct. 60,000 just seems a little low based on the reactions I have seen.

[@Alegend13]

It is probably saying of the actual pepper included in the sauce, pepper X makes up 91% of that smaller percentage of pepper contained within the sauce. Either that or false advertising.

[@markpalavosvrahotes5575]

I have another question. Can you imagine if someone eats that does the math and automatically assumes it’s 2.4 million SHU? They are going to get rocked if they try a 500,000 unit sauce!

[@mitchellriner3522]

Wow this is a great point. Someone might have found out the hard way that they don’t actually have an unexplainably high tolerance

[@SpiceClimber]

Excellent point. What if someone took a spoonful of Doomed because they could do that with this sauce..... That would not be pretty. ☹️

[@SCTitan06]

this is extremely disappointing especially given the sauce is almost $30 a bottle. Thank you for putting this out there.

[@thechugdude]

I knew it wasn't as hot as advertised since my review.

[@UNITEDTILLIDIE]

Iv been on the bus a while now and i dont want to get off! Keep up the great work much love 💪

[@ModernSurvivalSense]

With this sauce being 91% "Pepper X," We can work the SHU backwards. This mythical pepper rates as 67,054 SHUs! (I am also salty. I have a half-eaten bottle that I bought because it was suppose to be one of the hottest sauces on the planet. The first thing I did was put it on a spoon and become underwhelmed. Thank you for testing this.)

[@DustinSummy]

That's correct for a fresh pepper, but when they measure those million SHU peppers they are dehydrating them first. To be 2.639 million SHU, pepper X would have to be 16.5% pure capsaicin (16 million SHU). It might be that hot after dehydrating, but no way it's that hot fresh, nor is any pepper. Since a pepper is over 90% water, you can't compare dehydrated measurements to direct measurements.

[@ModernSurvivalSense]

There's no mental gymnastics needed for the SHU of a pepper or a sauce. A pepper is not dehydrated for measurement. It's DILUTED until the heat can no longer be detected. @@DustinSummy

[@DustinSummy]

@@ModernSurvivalSense the method of testing used nowadays is to measure the concentration of capsaicin and similar molecules by a process called HPLC. No one at the lab is tasting the sauce diluted in water. Pure capsaicin is 16 million SHU. Simply multiply that by the percentage of capsaicin in a substance to get the SHU.

[@DustinSummy]

@@ModernSurvivalSense From wiki on the Scoville scale: Considerations Since Scoville ratings are defined per unit of dry mass, comparison of ratings between products having different water content can be misleading. For example, typical fresh chili peppers have a water content around 90%, whereas Tabasco sauce has a water content of 95%. For law-enforcement-grade pepper spray, values from 500,000 up to 5 million SHU have been reported, but the actual strength of the spray depends on the dilution. This problem can be overcome by stating the water content along with the Scoville value. One way to do so is the "D-value", defined as total mass divided by dry mass.

[@DustinSummy]

@@ModernSurvivalSense and just to be clear: I do think that the result from the lab shows that the pepper X used in the sauce is no more than half as hot as it claims to be (2.639 million SHU, dehydrated). Unless we know the amount of water included in the sample as tested, or have a better explanation of the meaning of the test results (or compare to something else with the same methodology?), then I am hesitant to believe that it's over 40x less spicy than it claims. For the back row: I am NOT saying pepper X or the sauce are as spicy as puckerbutt claims. I'm saying be very careful and precise about the data so we can learn from it. I want to know how spicy it actually is, objectively, and that's all.

[@1130jawz]

Have it, used it twice. I was also a little confused. The last dab Apollo was way hotter!

[@Fitz98]

My thought too. Apollo was much hotter.

[@FluffyBrik]

I loved the Apollo sauce! Delicious and HoT

[@TheAmericanDane]

You don’t deserve any negativity aimed at you, really chilli heads should be thanking you! I love hot ones media stuff and Eds contribution to the game but people need to pull their head out of the sand. You’re doing good work here and shouldn’t be lambasted for exposing this! This is all a bit silly isn’t it? 1. It cannot contain 91% Pepper X and be 60,000 SHU if pepper X is 2mil+ SHU.. 2. Why lie about it when any Joe off the street can get it tested? Seems very brave or stupid!

[@darctangentia]

I thought Johhny sent the sample to a 2nd independent lab on the advice of the guy from the first lab. Curious what the other lab said or if Johnny only showed the higher number of the two.

[@robertzehm]

Results from the second lab haven’t come in yet.

[@Feeldaburn]

The first bottle broke during shipping so he sent another bottle

[@Feeldaburn]

Johnny is a straight forward honest person I don’t see any reason to question him

[@m00se40]

@@robertzehmthey have now

[@michaelfurtado4353]

No wonder people on the hot ones show freak out over the bomb sauce. They then dabb the pepper x sauce and handle it like it was the first sauce they started on… 😂 always thought there was something off with that knowing how hot superhots can realy be….

[@ChaseTheHeat]

A lot of acting being done there. Knowing how hot that sauce really is, makes me see everyone of those people on the show differently. Shameful. The only honest ones seems to be the guests

[@ChaseTheHeat]

Lol. Keep watching and paying my bills, pig

[@zetablackstar2410]

I gotta try a bottle now to see how hot it really is.

[@Senium1]

Hard to believe a green pepper is that hot...

[@lebronshoecollector2556]

Again thank you so much for doing this and always keeping it real. I appreciate it very much and all the haters can kick rocks 💯

[@carlLewis-u2q]

So my bonnet ferment sauce is 3 to 4 times hotter than Ed's pepper X sauce 😂 Ed is shifty!

[@dc-qm6xx]

same concept as redbull, it don't give you wings, but hot ones is trying to sell to the general public,, so to the public, it may very well be the hottest sauce in their world... you are just on a high level of extreme tolerance, Johnny... it's a tough call but i'm with you. they should label it better to let people know who should worry about heat, and who (you super Chili heads) should not worry so much. the hot stuff you guys eat is simply too dangerous for the non Chili heads... though it makes more sense now that people on Hot Ones can eat that last dab easier than Da'Bomb, because Da'Bomb is 135,000 shu's while that last dab is only a bit over 61,000... plus da'bomb has extract,,, sooo,,, anyway, thanks for all you share !!!!

[@homerco213]

Anybody who eats hot knows that 2+ million scoville is inedible for the vast majority of people. Well then don't market it like that. Red sauce from a mustard pod. Well then it ain't even half pepper X. What sucks is this guy is the most famous pepper grower ever, period. He ain't half the grower of even Jimmy Pickles, let alone Troy Primo.

[@Quentin687]

People need to be called out. We all understand it’s a money game, but 60k SHU?

[@ChrisProvazek]

I dont understand why it isnt possible that the sauce could be the percentage listed and still not hit the "expected" scoville... i wouldnt be claiming people are lying when they are just being selective about the percentages they are advertising and let the consumer make up what they expect in their head.

[@ddkelso9003]

You are the man! Haters gonna hate, who cares about em! I’ve been a fan of the channel for a few years now. I’m not going anywhere.

[@TheHungryHobo]

100%spot on. I would have though 150K at a peak but was expected 300-600k....

[@user-lj2gx2bh8p]

Ed needs to release the seeds so the populace can actually judge for themselves. Instead of keeping it in a lockbox and saying words

[@Thosis]

I knew it. Scam X.