Lets talk about Append

[@xfräuleinträumendx]

I like how they're calling it "append", definitely feels like a nod to how some vocaloids by Crypton have an "append" version

[@jolieproducer]

fr thought of that when it released

[@Kagaminelen38373]

SAME THOUGHT

[@Nikkothequokka]

Append Charts look really fun to play! But a problem I have, is that I don't know how to play with more than two fingers, I wish there were like tutorials to get better at it besides the "keep trying to play normal songs until you learn and progressively play harder songs".

[@laoloserr]

Its a whole learning process. You gotta force yourself to see it as a whole new game and start from the beginning with a slower note speed. Most lower charts will usually keep the notes confined to 4 “zones” so get used to assigning one finger per zone, and you’ll start to get the hang of it

[@AngelezPlayz0225]

if ur willing to u could try osu mania and set the keybinds to something like dfjk for 4k, it might help you train multifingering somehow?

[@えむyippee]

as someone who used to play with 2 fingers and after almost a whole year i've switched to 4, the switch was not easy and i tried to quit a bunch of times, but, you can still learn. on my learning process, i basically did what you said. i don't have any specific tips but all i can say is don't give up, because it will definitely help you in the long run. but, i'll need to say this, learning how to read and play append charts properly is not the same as learning how to play with 4 fingers. i'll say that because when i had the japanese version, i couldn't clear the easiest append, at least that was available at the time (pretty sure the name is lag train, sung by kaai yuki/n25), that's because the chart was too confusing for me and i couldn't do it. but i've never really focused on it anyways. especially now that i'm a global player. TLDR: you're gonna have to learn to play with 4 fingers and then learn to read append charts. which is probably not gonna be that easy, so good luck.

[@whatercup5918]

If you wanna improve with some other f2p mobile games, Phigros has a ton of easier multifingering you can practice with it (or maybe even dancerail3 but that game is really something...) (PS: the first chapters of phigros are kinda lame but it's such a good game you should play it multifingering practice or not)

[@sophjie9048]

I started playing chunithm (tho it isn’t free becz arcade) but it really helped me with append, esp it’s master mode

[@bwnzix]

it good to note that once you get around lv35+ the chart get very hard to be able to sightread with all of the chords and crosshand keyboarding is also a thing to get used to at this level as some chart have a lot of them

[@tonykristhiofan1113]

What is keyboarding

[@muhammadluqman3158]

​@@tonykristhiofan1113I think he meant to break up the lane like a keyboard rg, like mentioned in the video

[@QualityDoggo]

Yeah. Sight reading is also very different than a practiced chart. On popular charts, everyone seems to suggest increasing speed to the maximum you can handle, but slower is important for sight-reading -- better to hit all "good" than fail hitting "great" & "miss"

[@bwnzix]

@@QualityDoggo as a general rhythm game player it would make more sense to lower your speed LOL

[@fazkinmaheil9193]

Append made the game great again ❤

[@sakiskeyboard]

fr i hated it at first but it looks like a genuinely fun mode. cant wait for it to come to en

[@fazkinmaheil9193]

@@sakiskeyboardand instead of playing all the boring masters in coop if it has an append I can play append instead of disband❤

[@haydenTenno-]

@@sakiskeyboardwe’ve just had access to it a few days ago

[@LunaGoddessOfTheMoon]

absolutely can't wait for append ✨

[@r0s3yz3n]

do u mean in the english serv?

[@soda._.bbubbles]

@@r0s3yz3n append is already on jp so yes.

[@paimon-n3z]

@@r0s3yz3nshe probably does

[@rkissus9257]

I’m a thumb player but I might learn to use my index fingers when append comes out

[@fluffpawz]

Samee

[@kyutiekitty]

fr

[@vhrodayze]

i love append but my phone doesnt 🤗🤗

[@mayonnaiseonmarshmallows]

LOL

[@LiviaLiv]

Me too 😭 I tried the easiest song and clicked correctly but it was written "miss" I don't understand

[@niathenightfox]

Omg thanks for making this video i needed some tips for append

[@pjskFanWithALimbusCompanypfp]

Hi jeff. As someone who's okay i guess at rhythm games I like to call append charts Hell :)

[@meow-hn1fg]

Thanks for the tips! Love your explanations and suggestions:)

[@That1Personn]

Append looks fun to try, although I wonder if playing on mobile will potentially affect my gameplay bc it's much smaller than a tablet.

[@bwnzix]

your phone might not be able to handle multiple input at the same time

[@_havanAA]

@@bwnzix there are tons of phones that can.

[@Someone74619]

​@@bwnzixikr mine can't.

[@akirasora0_]

try watching shoshinsha, he APed daijoubu desu ka on phone

[@zionthezee]

​@@bwnzixMy phone was at able to handle the only 33 (Killer) append. I think it's fine as long as you're skilled

[@CokaCola-]

My phone is allergic to more than 2 fingers

[@fluffyfre]

Honestly appends are really fun, most of the time. My main issue is that the ratings are like really inaccurate. To EN players when appends release: Treat tell your world as a 26, pheles as 32 tondemo as 33 and i nan desu as 34 (or 33). These ratings are more accurate than the in game ones.

[@haydenTenno-]

Hey man, append and the overhaul just got rolled out to Australia a few days ago and it’s safe to say that I am not ready for it.

[@almondtofu707]

babe wake up laoloser posted

[@39helloerin]

real

[@ClemSuavitas]

I'm an EN only player, and i'm as excited as scared XD I love that it's a totally optionnal choice to play or not Append, but it looks like a fun challenge ^^ I already have an experience of multi finger charts from other games (and i'm so bad at it XD) so i'm a bit curious about them in project sekai.

[@WillowIsntSeen1]

Man I love append charts so much. I managed to get jp back in may, and they are so refreshing. It’s so nice to have a new challenge that doesn’t necessarily need you to have hands that move at light speed. And the hardest append charts (32s above) are so creative and fun. They are half the reason I wante Jp lol

[@averagepanda9353]

I've always used my thumbs when playing rhythm games, especially because it's easier to use my thumbs ever since piano tiles got popular and I got into superstar (kpop rhythm game) and eventually project sekai just this year. Seeing append played on ipads in livestreams made me curious, and I tried playing it with four fingers. As a thumb player on a regular cellphone, it did not go well 😅 but it's really fun! you can really see that they were made with love, a slightly sadistic one when you see 32 above append charts, but still love LOL

[@floofyspirit]

I really like append and the charting. It just tickles that part of my brain when i hear it being on beat more.. Consistently ig? I will learn to play those charts soon, but rn, it's very rare that i will play an append chart.

[@LukeAisenAgustin聡芸愛泉]

Time to learn how to play with my pointers (thumb player on phone)

[@Catlynzie]

Rip ur phone ( I'm also a phone player but I use indexes)

[@profA444]

Still the append is in the clear, fc, ap, so you still gonna have the urge to play it, as a thumb player I'm hopeless

[@bwnzix]

@@profA444 have you tried switching to index? it takes a bit of time to get used to but very worth imo

[@userabcdef12345]

As a thumb player, i’m kinda excited for append, mainly because I wanna practice using my fingers I do have jp and played append a few times, but my phone is tiny af and I’m too lazy to download jp on my ipad It seems fun and challenging, can’t wait to try it out on my main:D

[@dragondaniel0574]

I already had to alternate between 2 and 4 fingers to clear Machine Gun Poem, And since I started playing less than 3 weeks ago, I don't think adapting would be too difficult.

[@chich-ai]

Somehow, my tablet doesn't support multitouch with 3 or more fingers. You can use 3 or more fingers, but if it happens that 3 or more notes need to be pressed AT THE SAME TIME, my tablet freaks out and just... cancels all touch input. For a while after that, it won't register touch (for like 5 seconds) The closest I got to a Full Combo on Append, was Shoujo Rei, since it only has 2 parts that NEED 3 finger touch at the same time

[@VinRnx]

wait that happens with me too on my phone when, even sometimes, im not pressing 3 at the same time im just tapping really fast (usually when theres a lot of flick notes and trills) it just locks my input for like 5 seconds which is really annoying on 30+ maps. i thought it was an EN tap registration issue but it also happens on jp but not as frequent. i use 2 fingers/thumbs as well so idk why it locks

[@laoloserr]

D: What tablet is this ? I wonder if theres a setting you can change or if there’s a work around somewhere on the internet

[@bwnzix]

@@laoloserr usually it a hardware problem/limitation so you would need to get a new tablet😞 i think apple ipad is the most consistent in that they support 5+ fingers my iphone also only support 5 finger at once and doesn’t register any input if you put another fingers out

[@ihatestasis]

Are you using a redmi tablet? Because mine also have that problem..

[@iszuhu3613]

You should disable multi gestures, that worked for me. I had like a multi gesture of 3 swiping fingers for a screenshot, and disabeling that solved my problem.

[@kanaa_xusahana]

lost one’s weeping append when 🙁

[@csengemajoros2083]

I have always been a thumb player because i simply can't properly coordinate my hands when trying to play with the phone on the table, but because of that i find it hard to progress beyond my current level and have often put the game down every couple of months for the last 2 years 😢 You did a very good job selling append in this video!! It seems like a challenge that could really help me progress further and not get bored of the game so fast. I'll do my best to learn how to play with my index fingers, though it might be harder to do on a phone 😭

[@Zorgot.]

I love appends but I'm so trash at them, I can only do like 25 difficulty after practicing on it for awhile, but I love how they're charted, they're some of the most creative and fascinating charts I've seen in the game and it makes me wish I was good enough to play them. I will try to apply your tips when I try playing appends again

[@airi0212]

could you talk about tips (how to record yourself, gimmicks newer players might not know about, etc.) for some arcade rhythm games? specifically sdvx/chunithm/wacca.

[@Guest43415]

For now i only played EN Server but i have tried like IDSmile, Lag Train, Tell Your World, Shoujo Rei Append on sonolus and even tho i cant beat it its still fun. I love the refrence on append :>

[@meloo-melosh]

What I find very useful as a thumb player when playing higher levels is that when there are crossing hold notes I do this motion with my fingers “>

[@jacksc9855]

My biggest frustration with append rn is my phone sometime group my touches together into one, if my fingers are too close to each other. This causes me to miss when tapping chord with small notes or multi finger slider, which is very common. Overall, it just results in an annoying experience when you miss a note and not sure whether it's because you tap the pattern incorrectly or your device registered it incorrectly. With that said, I do love append chart a lot. They are all every creative and like an evolution of the master chart. Bad apple, King, Lag Train, Ifuudoudou are among favorites in terms of reference to the original song.

[@Fallen_Guns]

As a thumb player myself I want to tell other thumb players that appends are a great way to practice using fingers for the near future if they get an iPad and get some experience im under their belt and can help with master charts if they are struggling on it with thumbs

[@LazySpirits]

since i can barely even play expert mode maps prob not gonna be trying them too much when they came out but i found APPEND maps really cool when i tried them out, tried lagtrain since one of the lowest and found it cool how the map mimics the music video

[@whatercup5918]

I actually didn't know append was for multifingering x))) I thought it was just some special charts but I didn't think much about it... Now that I know, I am so hyped for it bc I play a ton of phigros too and thought it was sad that only stupid hard had multifingering in pjsk

[@ThePipofDespair]

I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion, but I hate Append charts. I can't play them comfortably.

[@laoloserr]

I think a lot of the hate for append comes from people expecting to be able to jump into levels that they would normally play instead of treating it like a new game, and starting from the bottom and learning fundamentals

[@sagalh01]

The append charts are really fun on lower levels. My favourite is the lagtrain append

[@QualityDoggo]

looks fun! I'm not good enough for these yet anyways lol... but I'm glad they're not "required" since it's very cramped to use more than three fingers on a phone

[@delta981]

I’ve never played append before but I’m really looking forward to the new challenge. I’m getting too comfortable in master, I’ve FCed the majority of the master charts now, working on yaminabe and what’s up pop still but I’m definitely getting there with them. It’ll be interesting to mix things up again instead of playing a different game like Lanota for the challenge

[@reppX]

can't wait for brand new world release! sadly my tab lost so I can't enjoy the gameplay much on phone

[@Cl0udyang3ls]

New vid good day

[@sulekhanur1539]

I used to call it appendix help 😭

[@kujira_164]

i was really looking forward to append, but sadly my phone can't handle more than 3 fingers so every time there's just a simple 4-hold-note-section, i get a miss on one hold note :( kinda unfortunate, but i'm still happy they added another "difficulty" to the game to give players a new experience!

[@Nyazhi]

FINALLY ITS ABOUT TIME THEY ADDED NON-37 MULTIFINGER it still baffles me that the devs refused to add non-37 multifinger charts till now

[@carro179]

If you have an Oppo and have trouble with multi finger taps registering, you need to activate Championship Mode!

[@auauauauauauauau40]

crosshanding is difficult for me so i usually cheese it by just bringing in more of my fingers in 😅 i'm trying to practice but it's quite uncomfortable. on another note, i've been playing append to the point where my multifingering will subconsciously work its way into non append charts that don't need it!

[@kodoku_opia]

append is so fun i will not tolerate append slander

[@MrVirtualMachine0]

It would've been cool to see the Master 37s be moved to APPEND, and have those songs get Master 34/33s, but I'd imagine that eould cause issues with scores. I wonder how those would look.

[@Seisei009]

Im a thumb player and i can play only lagtrain and sweet magic i will try it rn

[@glittery_shiningstars]

Bro you look like my math teacher with shorter hair

[@warfu_]

Great tips!!!! I'm excited 🪄

[@jareddo06]

im patiently waiting for intense voice append on en....... i hated how it was a limited time map.......

[@syahrulvengers720]

Wow I'm already suffering on Expert difficulty.Append is going to be nightmare

[@Savie7214]

honestly i like append but the fact that i use phone to play and maybe its my device, the hold tile can only withstand 3 fingers or less😭😭 idk why it always when undetected or maybe i'm still having an awkward position

[@gabortoth3642]

I have the same problem. My phone can't register more than 3 fingers at once 😢

[@MyatYuYuMonCchms]

anyone from EN here two days b4 third anniversary update?

[@floofyyy]

watching en freak out over append is so funny as a jp player.

[@laoloserr]

As a chuni player, same But im glad people are willing to give it a shot instead of completely ignoring or writing it off 🤗

[@flower_thestar]

me: yay append is coming soon on en! also me as a thumb player:💀

[@Burbee1511]

Append looks pretty cool i would love to play it… but as a longer term thumb player i dont think its gonna be easy to try to use my fingers, especially because im on a phone 😭

[@TempestStation1]

before append came out i was playing with multiple fingers so i got used to it

[@ruikamishiroruikamishiro]

My dumbass thought this was released 14 years ago when it said 14 hours ago

[@Zorgot.]

can't believe project sekai is already so old

[@watermeloneh]

Oh god I can’t even do master

[@H3mx.editzz]

Append? I think Sega already hinted it in some hard songs on master mode like Yaminabe and What's up? POP! This is my opinion and I'm not against this. I think it's nice to see a vid talking abt this before its release

[@JVSTG4L4XY]

I’m trying to play append but I cant even play it when I accidentally “close” the app and then I have to click continue and it’s just insufferable. This isn’t even possible at all in co-op without disconnecting.

[@reallwrio]

Same it happens to me too and it’s so annoying

[@realtiddi]

BABE WAKE UP, JEFF POSTED AGAIN

[@enkephalin.]

Even though some of the append charts are literally ripped from CHUTNIUM, they look so creative and good (especially as someone who continuously grinds in append levels lol). 2025 is gonna be a crazy year for pjsk since all the charts we've been getting this year in JP are very gimmicky for Project Sekai. I could do them fine since I was used to theee from prior experience but most of the RG newbies or prsk firsttimers are in EN so I wonder how that'll go for them :P

[@Venizenn]

My tablet doesnt register more than 2 taps at the same time 😭🙏

[@WildSaki]

Append is going to kill me☠️. The best I can do is fc 26 master. Welp, back to square one I guess😅

[@tucacq]

I happy hey added append bc that ONE song on master n expert is to easy

[@DxCKnew]

I play on a phone and got used to hold it while playing with my thumbs, but I do need the rewards so I will at least try to play them somehow, I don't own a tablet, so I'm not sure how I'm going to do that logistically.

[@TaiPham-yq4yo]

the reason why i quit en server is because jp server got WAY better features and append charts still trying to get my first append 32 and only 1 lv 30 left for all append 30- FC

[@that_greenguy_VR]

My problem with append is that whenever you have to hold more then two slide notes, it bugges out and just doesn't register any taps at all. My does support up to 10 taps at the same time but it just doesn't work.

[@isa.2833]

I'm interested in playing some append charts (*ehem* hoshi wo tsunagu............ *ehem*) but I don't think I can do it since I use phone (my only playing device as of rn) + I use thumbs ever since I started, will definitely need a LOT of time to adjust since i'll most likely be using my index and middle fingers... 😓

[@laoloserr]

Plenty of people play append charts with their phones ! Its just putting in the effort to practice

[@isa.2833]

@@laoloserr i see, so it is possible, it just all comes down to practicing then... thankd for replying :)

[@Rotipangganglovers._.]

imagine if yaminabe has append level 💀💀 btw im excited for append!

[@TempestStation1]

yaminabe is already append

[@Rotipangganglovers._.]

@@TempestStation1 yeah i know

[@yzthemaker]

I really would be happy BUT MY STUPID TABLET WONT LET ME TAP AS FAST ANYMORE 😭

[@Patient0404]

Oh that's.. too many notes.... [I use 11 speed 💀]

[@KarudyVX_Gaki]

Append same similar like chunithm gameplay

[@Kitty99655]

Can you talk about the new update on en on September for the 3rd anaversary?

[@Worstthumbplayer]

No way i got you recommended on my youtube

[@laoloserr]

🤭

[@Kanadesramen]

My tablet can't handle 4 fingers Everytime there's a hold note with 4 fingers it just misses

[@placnta]

i love append, i jus wish THOSE thumb players wouldnt bitch about them sm 🙁

[@yxt2429]

I think append charts are for the chart writers to unleash their crazy thoughts LOL

[@Neim_nt]

I would like you to talk about how to switch from playing with thumbs to indexes, I tried to do it several times and still nothing (if it is translator).

[@laoloserr]

I’m working on a video that talks about that !

[@maguirbo]

About Append, I was wondering if it's playable on phone because i don't have a gaming tablet. (cause i don't know which one i should get since it would not only be for rythm game but sidetrack!) I've seen people use two thumbs and two index but is it doable or it's just some hardcore shit to pull off. Those charts looks really fun so want to try them but i can't play like you do on tablet since the phone would slip off where I am...

[@laoloserr]

I do occasionally play append charts on my phone (iphone 15) the same way I play on my tablet Except instead of tapping below the judgement line im usually tapping slightly above it

[@kzygaming5181]

I Tried To Play Append But I Never Played It. Idk Why For Certain Phone Like Me I Cannot Played Append Because When I Tap The Note Although I Press Correctly. The Tap Doesnt Registered:D

[@mrbulldops2654]

I wanna play more append charts, but my wrists hurt sooo bad after playing just twice. Is there an ideal wrist placement? high or low angle? My wirsts are usually at a slightly lower angle if that makes sense..

[@Vyvids]

Idk if you still has problem . But i also had this issue when i first started. It gradually gets better. So i would say just take it slowly. And relax your hand so you dont put too much force into it

[@Telappr]

THEY ARE WHAT

[@Luna_moona457]

awh man I can't play pjsk because it blew up my phone and I can't play it anymore so I have to use d4dj☹️

[@AhmadAli-si6qu]

i already suffer when i do 23+ expert charts and some really difficult songs on hard mode , but ive been only 12 days playing this game and its my first rythim game , so i am not touching the append ofc , and i can only use my thumbs , no way i could do it in my middle and forefingres , do i only need more practice or there is more than that to do ? and thank you as always , you helped me in the past week if you remember .

[@_Iemonboy.]

I'm so dead, I can't play on four fingers 😭 the one time playing on a phone is bad

[@Captain_Bottles]

I’m not ready because I play thumbs so I’ll never be able to play it

[@SuitofSpades]

Does anyone know how to change the settings to where your phone allows more than two fingers, thats what I'm struggling with

[@TimedPotato]

wait i'm still not aware of when this update is coming, does anyoen know when it's coming out?

[@laoloserr]

Not officially announced yet. But we’re looking maybe the end of September or somewhere around there

[@TimedPotato]

@@laoloserr ok, thanks!

[@rudy9540]

When does the update come out for global

[@NotReadyForMizu5]

When are the append charts *actually* coming to EN?

[@VinRnx]

update is coming around early October if its following same release date as jp

[@NotReadyForMizu5]

@@VinRnx Ty!

[@cheetosan]

september 30 is when the update rolls out afaik

[@IsaacTompkany]

September 30

[@K-mi81]

This may sound dumb, but, how can I play in the jp server?😅

[@laoloserr]

If you’re on ipad or iphone, you can make a separate itunes account and set your region to japan, and download it from the jp app store ! I have a video on it somewhere on my channel 😅

[@minananano]

append makes my ipad bug out because sometimes when im holding 3+ notes the screen moves horizontally and makes the game get paused. One time i got append mode in ranked and disconnected because this happened to me 😭 idk how to like stop this from happening because i’d love to play append more but it’s too inconvenient for me to play at the moment

[@laoloserr]

Easy fix ! Go into your settings and search for gestures Specifically the four and five finger gestures and turn them off. Personally I have everything turned off but its up to you how you want to have it set up ! You can also look into guided access settings if you want to be 200% sure you wont accidentally swipe out

[@minananano]

@@laoloserr you’re literally a life saver thank you so much for this!!!

[@MightBeNoir]

Ngl any more than 2 fingers just feels gross but I guess I’ll force myself to get used to it

[@tonykristhiofan1113]

Quick question, can you use append's techniques on regular charts and can you train append's techniques on regular charts?

[@Dewwwwvwvwvw]

not really excited for append if its just gonna be more like vsrg with more fixed lanes. i recently started playing pjsk,and like the entire difficulty is in not having fixed lanes lol. i am a veteran vsrg player and thats kind of the only reason i am really enjoying the game,since it is so different. maybe the charting style will be fun like the usual sekai charts, the charting is honestly very high quality(apart from some offset issues in specific songs,feels like notes are charted directly to the vocals sometimes and if the vocals and music are very offsync they feel SO weird to acc)

[@laoloserr]

If thats your main concern dont worry A lot of the charting is very dynamic and well thought out !

[@enkephalin.]

Project sekai's charting is pretty dynamic because I'm pretty sure they're the same people that chart for CHUTNIUM? If you're looking for another mechanically different rhythm game that doesn't have fixed lanes, then Arcaea's a great one lol

[@AwatipSelotip]

Can i ask, what date that append is going to be in global server?

[@AkiyamaMizukiEnjoyer]

did u experience doing wrong way flicks? cuz I did that sometimes