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Chipflake

Chipflake

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@ChuckChuckGoof
@ChuckChuckGoof Жыл бұрын
“If you take the computer away from a digital artist, they can still draw, but if you take the AI generator away, you’ve lost your method of expressing your ideas.” You honestly hit the nail in the head right there. Also, hope you’ve had a happy birthday.
@Tonatsi
@Tonatsi Жыл бұрын
(I want to preface this by stating I am not picking a side because both have good arguments going for them) A lot of people consider things like programming an art, but if you took the computer away from me, sure I could still 'code' by writing on paper, but most developers will tell you that that is so inefficient that no one considers it viable even for just expressing your ideas. I think that 'the necessary skills are transferable to another medium' is a rather poor qualifier of what makes talent and skill, given that it functionally exclused any expertise in any advanced tool that exists. It's like taking away a gun, noting that they can't use a bow, and saying it's because all of the skill was in the Gun and not the person using it. My opinion is that, *_as an artform_* AI is fundamentally different. Neither *should* replace the other, and there is great potential in people who put the proper amount of effort into AI art, but the fact that you can obtain an economically viable low-effort result through AI much more efficiently than by drawing it digitally is confusing the debate between 'art' and 'economic value'.
@No-longer1
@No-longer1 Жыл бұрын
@@Tonatsi I feel like a fairer comparasion would be to compare it to switching between program languages- only the tools change afterall. And even if following your example, chances are if you are a programmer without a computer you will still understand complex mathematical calculations that is appliable elsewhere. With AI art all you need to know is how to put text into a box, and your knowledge will remain just that
@bingusenjoyer10
@bingusenjoyer10 Жыл бұрын
@@No-longer1 THIS
@Tonatsi
@Tonatsi Жыл бұрын
​@@No-longer1 I would argue that, if you say that as a programmer, I switch between languages, then I would say that the equivalent would be switching between different AI models, rather than switching from AI to canvas. Ultimately, while I can 100% agree that there is no creativity on the aspect of turning prompts into artwork, as the AI does that itself, I think it's reductive to assume that there can't be any creativity in the wrangling of the text prompts and the parameters to get the AI to show you what you want. Much like how you can draw a few straight or wiggly lines on paper quickly and get *something,* you can throw a few words into an AI and get *something*. But unless someone else has done the work for you already and has developped a pre-calibrated environment that manages to reduce the workload on a specific genre (and even then it's never perfect), you'll find it's near impossible to get something satisfyingly high quality if you're really looking for it out of AI. I see skill (And subsequently a possible art form) in the process of tweaking parameters and prompts in order to force the AI to close in on your idea. I understand that the majority of people using AI art do not use it skillfully, but my sticking point hinges on the fact that so many artists feel economically threatened (and honestly, rightfully so) by AI that they have decided to demonize it, and refuse all good aspects that it *does* have. And the specific reason I take issue with this approach is thaat *_even if there are more negatives than positives of AI generation right now,_* demonising it will just make the AI companies continue developing it as-is, as they are getting no support from the demonising parties, and thus they feel their words are not constructive. Instead, if proper focus is put on the *good* parts of AI *while* pointing out the downsides, you're instead providing supportive criticism, which the industry is marginally more likely to listen to as it represents an accepting and open market to exploit, if only they tailored their products to it more.
@Tonatsi
@Tonatsi Жыл бұрын
An example of my use of AI is that I'm working on a world building project, and we have a lot of different scenes. Simply put, I use AI to rapidly generate concept art to try and lock-in an aesthetic visually so that when I next come back to it, I can quickly recover my aesthetic and remain consistent. I intend to commission a proper artist once/if the project is complete.
@MAZER_YT
@MAZER_YT Жыл бұрын
Sometimes changes are necessary to grow up and continue being the best of you. but never forget where you come from and never lose that good memories (:
@another_yt9439
@another_yt9439 6 ай бұрын
800th like
@voidandroid
@voidandroid Жыл бұрын
Quite the honour to see your face. You look awesome and watching your art and videos over the years have been just as awesome. Your growth, views and opinions are all you and completely made sense. I hope you continue this growth as you have been one of the many people who inspired me to keep working on my art journey and not to give up.❤
@thedarkthing
@thedarkthing Жыл бұрын
Tbh i actually never seen your face before chip, you look amazingly great
@Messier42-handle
@Messier42-handle Жыл бұрын
he did it in a stream a while back
@BlueSphere12
@BlueSphere12 8 ай бұрын
​@@Messier42-handle Which one?
@meakimon
@meakimon Жыл бұрын
I got cat snacks commercial pre-ads on this. And I'll be honest, it made me smile. Chip you're awesome and ya looking great!
@3kh0alt
@3kh0alt Жыл бұрын
Same lol
@Mir12wx
@Mir12wx Жыл бұрын
i didn't and now i'm mad >:(
@jonaykon
@jonaykon Жыл бұрын
So you got a cat ad because there is a few seconds of an an8mated cat in the video, welp
@thebigdilla4988
@thebigdilla4988 Жыл бұрын
The katzun plushie in the background is absolutely adorable
@CatsAreCool7200
@CatsAreCool7200 Жыл бұрын
The Danny DeVito pillow is even cuter ❤ :3
@sunfeatherX3
@sunfeatherX3 Жыл бұрын
I super agree with your point about paying other creators for music on your channel! It’s something I noticed with yours a while ago and I really loved it! It’s so refreshing. A little soundtrack to your own channel. It’s great, and thanks for doing it
@foxfellsansthetrashydork611
@foxfellsansthetrashydork611 Жыл бұрын
It's true, music is awesome! 💙💛💜💗
@jchruan
@jchruan Жыл бұрын
I think 'Genuine Effort' can kinda be seen as a currency of sorts. Like... The sandwich your mom made you for school lunch was made with that genuine effort and care. Or your example: The artwork someone gifted to their partner is special mostly because of the genuine effort it now holds and represents. Of course it's not perfect. But it simply doesn't need to be because it has no effect on the care and thought behind it. Also I don't think anyone's perception of any media can be "wrong". If you listen to a techno track and you're suddenly inspired to draw something then that is simply what you've made of it. Idk bad example but you get my point.
@bastiancu2365
@bastiancu2365 Жыл бұрын
Nice, you are starting to understand how we use our currencies to give value to different products and services. Or have you studied economics before and are now applying that knowledge here?
@trixxart777
@trixxart777 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I love when people put themself into their art it's kind of why I hate when people make fun of vent art because their making fun of their emotions and their expression. Like people vilanising personal art is were this idea of art should be pretty comes from.
@Dummered
@Dummered Жыл бұрын
Never actually seen your face before, You look great!
@Banter07
@Banter07 Жыл бұрын
I agree, very circular
@herringtonwolf4032
@herringtonwolf4032 Жыл бұрын
On god
@Messier42-handle
@Messier42-handle Жыл бұрын
@@Banter07 british shorthair but human
@Gooberthat14
@Gooberthat14 Жыл бұрын
you could actually see his face way earlier on his boyfriends channel
@rocketB343s
@rocketB343s Жыл бұрын
​@@Gooberthat14girlfriend ?
@SnowFox-gv2rn
@SnowFox-gv2rn Жыл бұрын
I’m glad that Changes meant so much to you, and I could tell that you put your heart into it! The journey to self love and self acceptance is a long one, but it’s worth it to take that journey. And yes, people do make money off of art, but the reason why artists create in the first place is important, because without it, the passion and meaning is lost.
@SuperJSM
@SuperJSM Жыл бұрын
As a game developer, I understand this argument entirely as I also pursue a type of creative work. The bugs and issues, the unnecessary features I keep in my game are what give them character, and it's one of the aspects of development that makes it so fun to make games, and something AI will never be able to replicate.
@HayTatsuko
@HayTatsuko Жыл бұрын
I feel much the same way about music. I've listened to certain pieces and just had a whole lovely narrative -- often with intense visuals -- explode into my mind, sometimes completely unrelated to the original intent of the piece or song in question. I enjoyed "Changes" and especially this discussion you've shared with us today. Thanks for being you, fellow.
@Side_N0te
@Side_N0te Жыл бұрын
Currently AI art, even when edited, still just gives me this off, almost uncanny feeling.
@LilacMonarch
@LilacMonarch Жыл бұрын
because it's always off in ways unlike the mistakes humans make in what they make. so it goes right into uncanny valley
@tyne_9
@tyne_9 Жыл бұрын
because AI is just a mish-mash of other peoples art with no real cohesion or life experience. like when you see ai art of anime characters holding noodles with their bare hands. no life experience to tell us what is natural in real life.
@iritheshadowcreature8537
@iritheshadowcreature8537 Жыл бұрын
I think the problem with AI art is that it can't really be made by an actual artist. I tried using various AI generators for some time and the problem is that you don't really have input into what is created. Like sure you can say "anime girl with x description sitting in y environment from z perspective", but the more tags or description you give to AI generator, the worse it gets at following your instructions This would not be the problem for any actual artists because the better description you can give them, the better they could replicate what you imagined, but AI generator doesn't really know how to draw. Human artist might have their fundamentals figured out, but AI generator just has an (admittedly) large number of poses it can replicate and limited ability to infer between them. Art comes from your input about the details and specifics, not from a general description, which is why 2 artists can draw the same idea and it would feel different, but most AI images feel kinda the same
@Sgt.Hartman
@Sgt.Hartman 10 ай бұрын
@@iritheshadowcreature8537 I call this the lack of creative vision. The AI doesn't have the vision in its head of what it wants. It doesn't go through the creative process (more of a struggle) to turn that creative vision into a reality that perfectly reflects the emotions and the details that the artists or commissioner feels. It doesnt erase and redo the mistakes and the imperfections over and over untill its perfect and close to the vision as possible. Its not art, its just pretty pictures from a machine designed to make pictures seem pretty.
@PumpyGT
@PumpyGT 10 ай бұрын
​@@Sgt.Hartman The vision is the prompt you give it, but the product is just kinda soulless, I don't know
@Finstrax
@Finstrax Жыл бұрын
i love being a Creature artist, i adore the ideas i get though i know i will never get them to look as good and detailed as i'd like to sometimes but just drawing them simply, outline, color, done is just so oddly nice, it gives me a good feeling when i get to draw this really cool monster i have accumulated thoughts for over months, maybe even a year! but funnily enough before seeing this video of you talking about a couple things i want to switch up some stuff in my design and change is how people grow sometimes
@cloudskat3r
@cloudskat3r Жыл бұрын
You summed up my thoughts not just on AI art, but art as a whole. I had that “he’s just like me” moment with Changes, but maybe not in the way you were expecting. You expressed your frustration and conflict with your relationship with Chip, and I kind of felt what you felt in terms of how I look at my fursona, but opposite. For years I’ve wanted my character to be the face of what I do, but I never had the courage to fully commit to it until now, and I’m starting to make that shift online. I want to express myself through him and make songs with lyrics written from his perspective. Granted, he is just me so it’s not like they’ll be much different then if they were about my real, human self, but portraying my feelings through music sung by (in theory) a fluffy, orange cat guy has always been something I wanted. I too listen to music and imagine animations in my head, though my dysgraphia makes it hard to turn those into reality. But I too long for pure, unfiltered artistic expression both from myself and the people who’s content I consume. As a fan for (if I had to guess) five or six years now, your video gave me confidence to finally strive for what I’ve always wanted in this regard, and I want to thank you for that.
@fae-iii
@fae-iii Жыл бұрын
I've been learning how to do art myself and have been, especially as I get better, worrying about AI art. I really hope regulation or *something* to protect artists works out (I want to get good enough to maybe do my day job less, ideally). Also: it's really cool to hear you were inspired by Pokemon Red's colors! Those games were a big inspiration to me and are the primary source for developing my own artstyle. Imo, the sprites aren't "unflattering" though (for the most part), but unique in a way unlike other pokemon games. I might just be biased, though :P.
@Killysunt
@Killysunt Жыл бұрын
I relate hard to the changes subject. I sometimes feel tethered to a niche & miss throwing random stuff at the wall, but I remember why I started doing that niche in the first place & end up having fun in the end despite that nagging urge to try something different, which I try to do in between anyway otherwise I'd go insane.
@Lookitssteel
@Lookitssteel Жыл бұрын
I did not expect you to be here, lmao
@carina_rainyday
@carina_rainyday Жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you, I find it sad how so many people don’t understand the process of creating art from start to finish…
@acine2122
@acine2122 Жыл бұрын
This is beautifully animated, I see you’re going for a very realistic style ;)
@ari_smolbean
@ari_smolbean Жыл бұрын
Came here for a more in-depth discussion over creative freedom and the shortcuts AI art takes- Stayed for the Danny DeVito pillow off-frame. lol I think you hit the topic right on the nose, and almost more than accurately described how I've felt since I graduated highschool. I don't find any of the things I enjoyed- enjoyable anymore. How can I when I have work the day after. I don't have time to work all day on a single piece- jumping through different art programs- just to make something an AI could make within a couple seconds. But I still do. Despite it obviously taking longer than a day now that I have a full-time job. My first piece this year was just finished a week ago. And it took almost four months when it should have taken less than a couple days. Yet after all that time, I still feel like I accomplished something. The only thing that has dramatically changed with how I draw- outside of my style, format, and devices used for each piece- is my audience. I draw for me more than I did a couple years ago. I look back on my recent pieces and still feel like they were worth the time, despite not having as many as I did the last couple years. Getting away from social media has definitely helped, but I digress- If anyone is doom-scrolling through these comments here is one thing you should take away from this one- and any others saying the same thing- Create for yourself. Obviously sharing your creation with those outside your circle is a good thing- but don't make it the main focal point. You worked on it; You took time out of your finite experience to express yourself; You should be proud of it; And you should hold onto that feeling because no one else will understand it like you have. How I just now described my creative process of my most recent piece *barely* takes into account all the nuances and movements that got me to it's completion i.e. what I would consider as 'a relief of completion'. And that's what I'll now do with this comment. Complete it.
@rachelwilcox52
@rachelwilcox52 Жыл бұрын
I was watching this video while drawing something for my girlfriend and I think it was a fantastic decision. I felt nice when I was listening the part where you talk about the years of experience that a person has and how meaningful it is to draw something for someone because of all the background that is behind. I really liked the video 💗
@aspthewyvern3622
@aspthewyvern3622 Жыл бұрын
Speaking of imperfections and AI art, the most compelling stuff I've seen has been where the creator embraced the limitations of current AI - the melty textures, weird anatomy, trippy visuals, etc. Remember DeepDream from 2015?
@gelatinous6915
@gelatinous6915 Жыл бұрын
Why does he look exactly like I imagined?! Anyways thanks for all the laughs, and for being the youtuber that cracked my egg (
@Kat_Silvertongue
@Kat_Silvertongue Жыл бұрын
I will love your content no matter how much it changes and wow you look so huggable !
@EazLP
@EazLP Жыл бұрын
That synthwave background looks sooo nice. :D
@hardidis
@hardidis Жыл бұрын
15:03 Best way to put this argument in words!!!!
@gamerboi64729
@gamerboi64729 10 ай бұрын
0:50 this sentence is so accurate, and i don't even animate
@Papayasarthere
@Papayasarthere Жыл бұрын
I agree with your thoughts on Ai art. I will forever appreciate art made by people cause I see the hard work that comes with it. I feel like Ai makes art lose its meaning. I also loved the video,Changes. The animation was amazing. All and all,great video :)
@brycedesalvo1599
@brycedesalvo1599 Жыл бұрын
YOOO HOLD UP🤨 I've watched Chip for years now. Childhood even. It blew my mind, first seeing Chip as a person😂 looking good!
@GuitarSlayer136
@GuitarSlayer136 Жыл бұрын
Been watching you for a while. Im really proud of you for showing your face. Confidence looks good on you.
@GoTyAPriVudMc7
@GoTyAPriVudMc7 3 ай бұрын
This boy makes me so happy 😊
@starry_lungs
@starry_lungs Жыл бұрын
I’m Ngl, i had a heart attack seeing chips face, but I’m so proud of you man. I’ve been watching since I could remember, and you really inspired me to animate (along with others), and I even have the OG chip plush on my shelf. I just wanted to say, thank you. You helped me realise what transgender people are, and understand that it is not bad for s person to be trans, you helped me gain an artstyle when years ago I used to heavily reference your style, and now seeing you be so open online and have grown so much is insane and amazing. I may be a stranger online, but I’m so proud of you big man, keep it up :)
@Messier42-handle
@Messier42-handle 10 ай бұрын
you.. realise that he already did a face reveal.. right?
@starry_lungs
@starry_lungs 10 ай бұрын
@@Messier42-handle NO!?! I HAVENT WATCHED CHIP IN LITERAL YEARS SO I DDINT KNOW 😭💀
@AnonymousUser48246
@AnonymousUser48246 9 ай бұрын
what is wrong with you people, being trans is not normal, its wrong, Read the bible
@neondemons
@neondemons 8 ай бұрын
@@AnonymousUser48246 Jesus was a twink
@iliketurtles50000
@iliketurtles50000 6 ай бұрын
​@@AnonymousUser48246the Bible told me that slavery is OK 🗿
@cadencampbell5974
@cadencampbell5974 Жыл бұрын
As someone who been with you for years now. The one thing I love about your channel was the art style. I love it! You show me so much art style in your videos. I wanted say thank you And whatever you do next. I will be right behind you!
@jerboteez
@jerboteez Жыл бұрын
you look so cool kinda goals honestly strapping in to listen to this one in the background while i work :D
@razorslazor6021
@razorslazor6021 Жыл бұрын
The talk about changing and evolving interests really got to me because I've been noticing the exact things you described. It's not that the youtubers I once loved watching became worse. They didn't. Its that I grew up. And my interests simply aren't the same as they once were.
@RhayvenBlood
@RhayvenBlood Жыл бұрын
from a programming perspective, Red/Blue are *amazing* The reason the glitches that exist do is the shit they implemented to try and ensure the game wouldn't crash. It'd do everything in its power to not do so, and it did so very effectively. Which. I mean full stop, also creates for interesting gameplay, like being able to spawn in Mew, and being able to get infinite masterballs and rare candy via missing no :P But still. It's an amazing testament to earlier programming ;__;
@haku7335
@haku7335 2 ай бұрын
Watching this after just listening to you talking in german is setisfying in a way i cannot describe and idk why
@jwwatches
@jwwatches Жыл бұрын
I think AI art would be more acceptable if it were used more as a tool for people with disabilities who feed pieces of their own finished art into a closed loop(aka does not pull from the internet at all but rather an uploaded database from the owner's computer) to help them finish sketches. I have a huge problem with executive dysfunction and not finishing art. But you're right in that it shouldn't be used for things like products, or stealing art. And you are 100% right about the whole, getting rid of art being difficult standards. I appreciate your perceptions on this subject a lot! Thanks for giving me something to think about!
@azell4580
@azell4580 Жыл бұрын
Whenever I think about using AI, I think of Wikipedia. I think it’s totally fine to use it as a tool for information or references, but to not rely on it as it could send you in the wrong direction.
@RetroNekoArt
@RetroNekoArt Жыл бұрын
its still theft...
@azell4580
@azell4580 Жыл бұрын
@@RetroNekoArt oh I’m not disagreeing with you on that one. It is theft. I’m more talking about generating art as inspiration, just as if you would use someone else’s art online as inspiration.
@jwwatches
@jwwatches Жыл бұрын
@RetroNekoArt Oh, absolutely. A closed loop AI track would be an artist uploading their own art (and no one else's) into a database that is closed (cannot pull from someone else's work or the internet), to emulate their OWN artwork. Assisting technology style. AI artwork using any other art OTHER than one's own is absolutely theft!
@azell4580
@azell4580 Жыл бұрын
@@jwwatches I believe there are generators like that, but they’re not very common unfortunately
@MaxJ.ProfessionalLilGuy
@MaxJ.ProfessionalLilGuy Жыл бұрын
Your address of AI art is really good, and made me realize the differences between AI art and avant grade gallery art. I’ve heard people compare AI art to Dadaism and found object art because, at the end of the day, the artist didn’t “make” the thing, but they did generate the idea. The big difference though is that Dadaism and conceptual art eschew aesthetics for a greater meaning, often commentary on art or the world at large. Obviously, Duchamp’s Fountain comes to mind here, but that’s a commentary on gallery art and what art means. Untitled (Portrait of Ross in L.A.) is another great example you brought up. It’s a work with really deep meaning and specifically exists for reasons other than aesthetics. AI art, then, is similar in the sense that the artist had little say in the piece as a whole’s construction and… taste… but differs in WHY it exist and what it communicates, which to me, is the most important thing about an artwork Really really good take on the whole AI art thing
@Aderon
@Aderon Жыл бұрын
Everything in life changes constantly, even if only in the most subtle ways. I personally really enjoy seeing how the artists I follow like you grow and change over time, because while they're not the exact same person I started following, how they've developed their skills and grown in their confidence over time is something I highly appreciate getting the chance to behold. And you're pretty much right about Bleach and Ichigo's hollow situation; latter storylines make it quite clear that not only is his hollow side a permanent part of him, but in a real way is the core of his powers as a Shinigami.
@amimirmimir512
@amimirmimir512 Жыл бұрын
you lookin fancy today
@amimirmimir512
@amimirmimir512 Жыл бұрын
honestly i'd like to be in the world where you can create any level for any video game in a very short amount of time
@amimirmimir512
@amimirmimir512 Жыл бұрын
and i really like how nintendo ds games look and sound they look and sound like they came out 25 years ago even though they actually came out 15 years ago it's just charming
@sub2tijabe
@sub2tijabe Жыл бұрын
Particularily sophisticated
@CarlBlessing
@CarlBlessing Жыл бұрын
1st: First time I've seen your face. You look fantastic. 2nd: You make some wonderful points in this video. Some I've never thought about, some with a different view that I've heard. But definitely good for thought. Keep up the good work. You're doing incredible.
@Helloworldred
@Helloworldred Жыл бұрын
1 day ago..
@Naranari_Taitai
@Naranari_Taitai Жыл бұрын
Blud hasn’t it only been one minute-
@otterthenutter
@otterthenutter Жыл бұрын
@@Naranari_Taitaipatrion i assume
@Golem642
@Golem642 Жыл бұрын
Bro travelled to the future to send this comment
@CarlBlessing
@CarlBlessing Жыл бұрын
Yes. I'm a time traveler. But shhh...don't let everyone know. Soon everyone will want to see "what the future holds" or try to change the past. Can't have people mucking about in time. But really, I'm a Patreon member. 😁
@brednbuuter7725
@brednbuuter7725 Жыл бұрын
You look so cool and change is usually a good thing and there’s nothing wrong with it, rock on!
@tri-tri-again
@tri-tri-again Жыл бұрын
i really like this take on AI art tbh. i am admittedly not an artist in the pen and paper sense, but that doesn’t mean i’m not creative. i’m a woodworker and amateur musician and the whole not putting any thought into *why* something is made drives me up the wall sometimes. like obviously the aesthetic qualities of something are extremely important. i wouldn’t make and sell the things i do if i wasn’t proud of them and thought they looked good, but the whole “aesthetics only” attitude is why i end up with people coming to my booth saying “i could do that for (x price).” and i know this isn’t just an issue that creatives face. it’s like walking up to a mathematician with a calculator and saying “why do you do what you do.” it completely removes all of the intricacies behind the work people do. a mathematician does their work to better understand the world around them. not to just solve a simple problem. artists are the same in this regard (at least from my experience.) i do art because i’m trying to explore and explain my world in a way that words and conversations just can’t sometimes. i think removing that human aspect from art takes away an extremely valuable universal language that humanity has managed to develop, and i think it prevents or at least discourages people from exploring and communicating through that language.
@Foxstorm1604
@Foxstorm1604 Жыл бұрын
Unrelated to anything in the video, but I LOVE THE DERPY FUNKO POP IN THE BACKDROP!
@djdeich
@djdeich Жыл бұрын
It's so weird to see someone for the first time after you've only heard them for many years. Your head kind of develops an image just from the voice and its so interesting how this image compares to the real person. Welcome out here :D
@Messier42-handle
@Messier42-handle 10 ай бұрын
i mean he did it before but ok
@shoes4clues955
@shoes4clues955 Жыл бұрын
one of the main reasons for all forms of art, be it drawing, painting, music, or whatever, is expression ai doesn't have anything to express
@docopoper
@docopoper Жыл бұрын
You're so right about the importance of the meaning and the human component of art. When I commission art I want to feel all the nuances of the person I'm commissioning in my art, and I want to tell them how much I love their art and what I like about it so they can have a good day too. AI art truly feels like it's missing the point for me. It makes me sad that it's going to kill so much of the art world and discourage so many people from becoming professional artists. Because of the many people in the world that just don't care. But definitely I'd say there will continue to be art communities where people actually respect and value each other's humanity.
@Nerobyrne
@Nerobyrne Жыл бұрын
Machines can't make art. They can make nice-looking images, or be a tool to come up with new ideas. But in order to be art, it requires a human component. What really gets me is that the reason artists feel threatened by machines being able to create images on par with theirs is the commodification of EVERYTHING. Constantly, we are driven by the society we live in to monetize every single second of our lives. Frankly I find that repulsive. We shouldn't be mad at the machines that are replacing us, we should be getting mad at the people in charge. I just found out how fun painting is. I'm going to get better at it. I have no worries that machines can already create images better looking than anything I will ever paint, because I'm not trying to monetize it. We could all live lives happy and doing almost no work, and society would still move forward. Yet we have to put in our 8 hours, just so big line go up. We don't benefit from the victories, and have to constantly eat the failures.
@BelladonnaPup
@BelladonnaPup Жыл бұрын
@@Nerobyrne based reply.
@Buglin_Burger7878
@Buglin_Burger7878 Жыл бұрын
@@Nerobyrne It doesn't require the human component though. Animals have made art, the Bowerbird nest exists to attract a mate through a beautiful and stunning nest that has more visual use then practical use. The ultimate goal of AI is to get a human-like intelligence. That could learn and adapt and survive like we do. These are just two examples that prove art isn't inherent to human. Why does looking at the universe invoke a feeling of awe like looking at a picture? Because it isn't inherent to human. Art is a reflection of reality. Both what ifs and what ares.
@BIKER_02823
@BIKER_02823 Жыл бұрын
You are the best chipp and you really make me happy seeing your vids❤❤❤❤
@ghostmelon870
@ghostmelon870 Жыл бұрын
This is my first time seeing the face behind chipflake didn’t know that they would be so good looking
@RyKeUp
@RyKeUp 10 ай бұрын
This was the most level headed opinion on the Ai topic i have seen up to now. I worked in Design myself and stoped after the whole Ai art debate started. Of course i was angry first but then i realized how much easier those tools make my life in genereal. i can easily create mockups and look for inspiration. Really showed me how having a hobby as a job is a privilege that can be revoked at any time. What i hate about the whole thing is, that basically all training data is straight up stolen and how many people use these Tools for malicious reasons
@Nuzzling
@Nuzzling Жыл бұрын
The bugs in Pokemon Red aren't bugs, they're features :p Also 16:27 I appreciate the cat.
@I-animate772
@I-animate772 Жыл бұрын
Chipflake, you inspire me and maybe other creators I’m trying to be like you I upload in good days and I’m new to being an animator and I don’t know what’s in my journey of animating (roblox) keep going and do what you need to do. Were all supporting you, ignore the haters. (Nobody can tell you what to do) One day I want to be like you. A funny, inspiring, animator. Your a really smooth and on-going guy. Again, keep going! (motivation comment)
@NeonLabsss
@NeonLabsss Жыл бұрын
it was so satisfying watching you explain all my opinions on AI art way better than I can.
@artitrash7052
@artitrash7052 8 ай бұрын
You’re not a talking cat…
@Smolflake
@Smolflake 7 ай бұрын
sadgeness
@brickbrickyguy4
@brickbrickyguy4 7 ай бұрын
😭
@Nameless50000
@Nameless50000 6 ай бұрын
FACE REVELE?!
@Smolflake
@Smolflake 6 ай бұрын
@@Nameless50000 Chipflake face revealed like 6 years ago
@WowEureka
@WowEureka 6 ай бұрын
Saaad
@Alureon25
@Alureon25 6 ай бұрын
True, art is subjective and people interpret things in different ways. Thanks for making a video discussing this!
@playtimeplay4518
@playtimeplay4518 Жыл бұрын
12:00 I feel like what would be more impactful for me about a commission is that it costs money. they likely used some free credits for the ai art cause all of them have that
@Abandonedchannel101
@Abandonedchannel101 Жыл бұрын
We all support you Chip! Keep going and dont care about what others say!
@123GoCatto
@123GoCatto 11 ай бұрын
I know that I'm late and i typically don't say this in comments very often, but this means a lot to me. It gives me a new perspective and motivates me to keep going. Changes are apart of life, but there is some stuff that you should just accept, like you said. I also agree SO heavily on the AI art portion though. You have been an inspiration of mine for a while. Thank you.
@vinstual9830
@vinstual9830 7 ай бұрын
These Videos are well appreciated and really do help a lot for people.
@The.Real.Strudl
@The.Real.Strudl Жыл бұрын
5:00 ish, i personally love when people have accents, like it gives them personality before you even meet them.
@theshyguy9855
@theshyguy9855 Жыл бұрын
did not expect to see Chip's face when clicking on this video, it is a surprise for sure, but a welcome one, what a good looking person. also, the wall looks so cool, I want that too, i love that aesthetic! and danny devito pillow (i think) is cool too. a very pretty room. also, very good video, have a nice day
@mimolettemeow7166
@mimolettemeow7166 Жыл бұрын
Yayy another video from the best youtuber!! I absolutely love your content, it's so various yet so well done... I'm currently watching this in my train, waiting for it to start, I even had troubles because it arrived where the high speed trains are usually (it is a regional train not a TGV)
@Aga-qx8je
@Aga-qx8je Жыл бұрын
i love youre vids like its the most relatable thing i like. allso your art style changed so much but it didn't at the same time. have a wanderfull day/night.
@Fwogy_boi
@Fwogy_boi Жыл бұрын
Off topic but i freaking love bleach and shinji is my favorite character and im pretty sure they are taking that perspective that you shouldn't try to change yourslf and just know how to love yourself and you dont have to change
@AnnCatsanndra
@AnnCatsanndra Жыл бұрын
Taking the computer away from a digital artist is closer to swapping a pencil artist's pencil set for a paintbrush and a pot of ink. They underlying skills they use for the expression are still there, but all of the muscle memory and motor execution skills to put their knowledge to work will have to be rebuilt on a new foundation. Taking the text-2-image generator away from someone who has only ever made images using their prose writing and giving them a pencil instead is close to taking away a guitarist's guitar and giving them a trombone. They still know what music sounds like. If they learned to read notation, they will still have that skill. They still know how to make _music_. But they don't know how to use this particular instrument and would have to learn a lot of new fundamentals of that instrument before they're back to using their underlying fundamental skills. - I've been drawing for almost 20 years as an on-and-off-again hobby. I can use ML generated images either as references when non exist. I can use ML images to conceptualize what a 3D render of my own characters might look like so that I can pass it to somebody else who knows how to actually make better 3d models than I can. Or when I'm bored or sick, I can just general quick doodles to enjoy for a little while when I don't feel the energy or desire to make it all myself. In a way, curation is an art to itself. People who are deep into fashion are very acquainted with that concept in a way that people who are more primed for illustration tend not to be. There are people who make spiritual arguments about what it means to create something, and people who argue that something has to be done entirely by the creator itself for it to be "real" and so on. But so many different artists have vastly different opinions on what art is and why it should be done that after hearing enough bad-faith arguments, it becomes harder and harder to take people at their word as their own opinions about creativity. And I'm not sure what to do about it than just keep trying to take people at their word and discuss it when they're open to do so. “If you take the computer away from a digital artist, they can still draw, but if you take the AI generator away, you’ve lost your method of expressing your ideas.” So no, I fundamentally don't agree with that. A person who has put a lot of time into learning to write good descriptive prompts will probably still be able to draw well enough with their words to commission artists they might like. The mental image they have in their mind is something they still have to form.
@temurromanyuk3216
@temurromanyuk3216 3 ай бұрын
cat the chip, wait no that sounds wrong, chip the cat: squeququququququ-
@limo_was_here
@limo_was_here Жыл бұрын
this is a great video, thanks
@Aqua_Tsu
@Aqua_Tsu Жыл бұрын
Wait, What?, First time I see the Chipflake's Face :0 "The Kevin Mcleod's Music Are even in Games, Like Roblox Lol"
@yakkothegoat2326
@yakkothegoat2326 Жыл бұрын
0:00 that was, unexpected p.s, lookin fire
@ocial6485
@ocial6485 Жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday Chip!
@Syuwup
@Syuwup Жыл бұрын
Love the stache
@deansullivan4179
@deansullivan4179 Жыл бұрын
If I could give this video a thousand likes, I would. It was great to get to see the thoughts behind your work.
@BaumatronYT
@BaumatronYT Жыл бұрын
I’ve watched your German lives a few times so the face isn’t too much of a shock to me but still I’m so glad you’ve gotten comfortable and I can’t wait to see what’s next Love ya pal and keep it up!
@youtubeuniversity3638
@youtubeuniversity3638 Жыл бұрын
13:00 It's a "gotcha" moment because those folks believe that value is Purely Inherent to a piece, and think caring about origins is for... "undesirables" let's say, this might not be the place to use the kind of language that really reflects how those types see other people. They want to destroy museum plaques and punish those who make them. They don't want people to matter. Whatsoever.
@Buglin_Burger7878
@Buglin_Burger7878 Жыл бұрын
It is a gotcha because you don't value the art itself, you value the person who made it. In other words it is no different then buying tickets to a movie because famous actor X is in it not that the movie itself is good or bad. You care not for the piece but the fact a specific person is there. It is why a lot of Patreon scams work asking for 5$ a month to see content early or unique content and they rarely upload. Only the crazy ones wish to destroy plaques, punish others, ect. To them people don't matter, because art is beauty and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Art is not one sided, it is subjective.
@Bubble-Foam
@Bubble-Foam 8 ай бұрын
@@Buglin_Burger7878 Art isn’t exclusively about aesthetics though. That’s a massive misunderstanding. It seems like what you value is “things that look pretty”. Or in other words, content to consume. Which is pretty big trend I’ve noticed with a lot of ai obsessed people. They’ll sit there and spend hours at a time perfecting their little prompts to get exactly what they want, or they’ll feed all sorts of weird and bizarre combinations of words just to see what it gives them. It’s like tik tok in a way, an endless stream of randomly assembled content you don’t have to work for, but these people are usually the type to make fun of content bingers.
@RustShyRabbit1
@RustShyRabbit1 Жыл бұрын
Changes is an amazing video! It’s interesting to hear about all the behind the scenes. Also Happy Birthday Chip 🎂
@olive_au_pain
@olive_au_pain Жыл бұрын
Ça fait longtemps qu'on a plus eu de vidéo comme ça, ça fait du bien de te revoir 👍 (yeah i'm a french follower and i love your channel ❤)
@olive_au_pain
@olive_au_pain Жыл бұрын
Les changements sont obligatoires dans la vie, sinon on serait des gens qui agirons comme des petits bébés, sans eux on ne serait rien
@eatehbaby
@eatehbaby Жыл бұрын
the changes in your chanel over the years were always part of the content. On a side note, looking spiffy chip
@SophiaWoessner
@SophiaWoessner Жыл бұрын
Katzun merch on the shelf
@Beepper
@Beepper Жыл бұрын
I did not expect to find myself back here, and certainly not through a philosophical discussion about what art is. Good to see you again chip, and thank you.
@starthe_notfurry_
@starthe_notfurry_ Жыл бұрын
I honestly see where you're coming from with your interpretations and I can agree with them. I really don't think AI art will fully replace art by real beings with personal experiences, even with it's imperfections, when the art community has so many people who understand the human art process in the first place. I really hope you enjoyed your birthday, and I appreciate hearing your perspective!
@matangoldstien5922
@matangoldstien5922 Жыл бұрын
It was a fun podcast, Thank you for the chill vibes while talking about healthy subjects ❤️
@That_One_NB.Girl_OnYoutube
@That_One_NB.Girl_OnYoutube Жыл бұрын
I don't know why I relate deeply to this video
@Dez_010
@Dez_010 Жыл бұрын
Yippie new chipflake video !
@Stonmann
@Stonmann Жыл бұрын
I like the Danny DeVito pillow.
@Good_Praxis
@Good_Praxis Жыл бұрын
I've been on the Chipflake ride for so hecking long at this point. Has always been a blast :3 Also love spotting those MLP figurines in the background (And of course love hearing your perspective!! Just got nothing novel to add myself)
@JOLT_x3
@JOLT_x3 Жыл бұрын
Man i cant wait to buy your new blanket soon.
@rachelm.4741
@rachelm.4741 Жыл бұрын
You really nail it on the part about AI art. Even if there wasn't the issue of art theft and all that rubbish, AI art makes art that is a product, and that goes against what I understand what art really is: a means of communication. Art is the artist putting to paper (or whatever medium they choose) their perception of reality for the world to see. I was so happy you brought up the Portrait of Ross, because that was the exact piece my art history teacher used to express contemporary art to us, and it stuck with me! I feel most of the people who value art merely for its beauty (whether or not it "looks good") are the same people who don't understand art (aka, aren't artists themselves or don't interpret art in a meaningful way) and who would see a minimalist piece and say "I could draw that" or "it looks like a five year old drew that". Because they don't know or understand the time and effort the piece required to make, so it's "easy" for them to judge. While fellow artists or art appreciators see and understand the work gone into the piece. In a similar vein of the artist who used AI to generate a picture for his wife, I agree that him drawing the image himself would've been more meaningful and appreciated than a "perfect" AI-generated piece. I participate in Art Fight since 2020, and while I don't receive tons of drawings, I appreciate the heck outta them (even when some of them were rushed) because I know that these people still took the time to draw my characters and that means a lot.
@annagrace590
@annagrace590 Жыл бұрын
i enjoy this. this feels like something I can get behind
@saliv88
@saliv88 Жыл бұрын
Don’t know if you’ll ever read this, but you explaining that you imagine some people create AMVs in their head while listening to music was one of the most relatable things I’ve ever heard someone say. I always animate visuals in my head when listening to music, either with my own or the art styles and casts of specific shows in mind. I just don’t visualize it with live action, and hearing you say it made me so happy to know that you understand it in a way. I’ve made 2 AMVs and the satisfaction I got from finishing them was otherworldly because it’s the closest I can get to depicting that. I wish you the very best! Keep exploring what you feel comfortable exploring, and create what you want to create!
@GramGramGenX-ln5sc
@GramGramGenX-ln5sc 10 ай бұрын
Fivvr is a great source of affordable custom music. Getting my own theme music for my cartoons was worth it!
@kingwilliamdelphox
@kingwilliamdelphox Жыл бұрын
Okay, so here's my thoughts on why I think some people hate AI art. It's because people say that it's a program that creates art based on real people's art that they made and it's very low effort and a cheap way to sell and mass produce it (looking at you, DeviantArt...). But with your idea that it's another way for others to express their ideas or don't have the time or skills required to illustrate them, it's a great way of looking at it. Honestly, the way some look at it is that people value real people's art to call it "real art" is mind boggling to me. Like, dude, art is art, and it's an expression of ideas and passion, regardless of the medium used to make it. Great video Chip, loved this to bits, keep up the good work.
@yaboiEchogaming
@yaboiEchogaming 8 ай бұрын
Chip you are lookin handsome my dude!
@haven_lady675
@haven_lady675 Жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness your red hair looks amazing and you look adorable and sleek!
@haji2nd444
@haji2nd444 Жыл бұрын
This is really good insight into your thoughts on AI art, changes, etc. Great video!
@timell5895
@timell5895 Жыл бұрын
the fully accepting yourself instead of trying to get rid of it when you cant reminds me of the game celeste and its story. and thats why i love that game's story so much as it means alot to me for someone who's still trying to find their gender.
@hyperspeed1313
@hyperspeed1313 Жыл бұрын
16:53 this kinda rephrases why I hate the rapid spread of machine learning models for image generation. Art is something we do to be creative, and instead of using our newfound power of highly skilled machine learning to do menial tasks & give us more time for creative works, we’re using the MLMs to generate the creative works, while still doing the menial stuff ourselves.
@Buglin_Burger7878
@Buglin_Burger7878 Жыл бұрын
Because most menial tasks require an lot of movement, stuff like grocery stores for example are so complex that while we could use an AI to make a giant vending machine it would be inefficient as opposed to customers walking in and manual stocking and having people at checkouts to verify identities. Stuff current AI could replace is stuff that could have been replaced for 20+ years already. Art on the other hand is much more in line as it exists within this small drive you could plug into an AI and get a output put back into the same drive in 5 minutes. Just like taxes. Look at your icon, it is a bunch of pixels told to display in a set way which looks like H and 13. Literally all the AI has to do is that when you tell it to. As an artist, you outline stuff and create basic shapes and expand from there. All stuff you can tell an AI to do with ease. Get an AI to go stock shelves though and you run into a huge mess.
@Nonsencalik
@Nonsencalik 11 ай бұрын
I came back to your channel after years and i wanna say i like ur new style
@robiginal
@robiginal Жыл бұрын
I go by the rule that things will turn out better based on how much effort was put into them. There are a lot of time-saving techniques you can use for animation, but traditional animation can look so much more fluent and lively than modern animation all because everything was done by hand
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