Lets Talk About The Wuthering Waves Tier List.

[@PrydwenGG]

And here we go again! Thanks for the feedback as usual - we do plan to update the tier list at the end of the week as yeah, some things don't make sense there post last update and you pointed most of them out. That's our fault though.

[@Fate_is_amazing]

@@PrydwenGG the dps characters are perfectly placed tbh

[@es.sketches84]

Please give daniin the expert tag. She IS the hardest 4 star to play optimally due to her kit. She should easily be next to encore with the same tag.

[@WJGAMING66]

Y’all do it every patch 😂😭

[@runshootkillstuff3391]

​@Fate_is_amazing thats because dps characters are easy to compare by simulating damage numbers, subdps especially are harder to rank cuz theres multiple things to consider like rotation time, buffs, damage

[@carloconsignado4065]

I think Changli also needs at expert tag because an average player won't be able to maximize her forte and rotations without learning her rotations.

[@queru2284]

Xiangli Yao is such a complete character. While some characters excel in specific situations-like Jiyan, who is great against many small enemies because of his crowd control, or against bosses with a lot of parryable attacks like Mephis due to his auto-parry-Xiangli Yao is effective in every situation and against every enemy: -He’s excellent against aggressive enemies who attack frequently because his time-slow ability lets him avoid interrupting his animations to dodge. Making him deal consistent damage every rotation. -His ult has a grouping effect. -His skill includes a dash, making him effective against enemies that move a lot. -He has great AoE. -He has interruption resistance. -He's future-proof since he can also be played in quickswap teams, and again provide time slow.

[@trashbuilds8351]

SO TRUE - I didn't like his design at first but I was lucky enough to get 2 copies of his weapon (so in all fairness I don't know how he feels with a 4* weapon), and he is now my fav character to play because you don't have to have a strict rotation and you can button mash a bit. He never gets flung around and does great in double DPS teams. I don't even have good echoes on him yet

[@urboykaii]

yea he can be a good sub dps if Wuwa characters ever drop into crazy power creep in later patches

[@qeinz]

agree. since i skipped jinhsi, he's the best dps i have rn next to camellya

[@qwertysysysyysysysyzz]

funny u say that sisnce jiyan outdmged yao by about 15k+ dps even in st

[@urboykaii]

@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz right and in s6 jiyans nuke is the same as camellya + dps

[@Astamingo]

Ngl I play this game very casually and I have Jiyan, this guy makes the game so easy because he's dumb to use and his damage is really nut for his playstyle, it's not as high as Jhinsi or Camellya but he just spam solid tics of dmg while allowing you to dodge 24/7. He's the perfect DPS for a casual imo Not saying he's the best but he's 100% the most comfy

[@caprichaos]

He's the skill issued saviour and I love him dearly for that. Got his weapon on his rerun and those were the best spent asterites since the start of the game lol

[@aidilhakimi8425]

​@@caprichaosand mobile auto parry assistant😂

[@av3_ren]

i absolutely suck at fighting, jiyan makes my life easier lol

[@zippo718]

My only issue with Jiyan is how he tracks enemies (constantly trying to crawl inside his current target's butthole when you just want him to stand in the effing middle and AoE). I wish he just stood where you put him.

[@vincentli9340]

Verina can charge concerto faster than Shorekeeper. She plays exceptionally well into Changli, funneling her into 4 stacks non-stop. With E1, she actually fills it too fast to the point Changli has a hard time finding a window to use her echo. Shes definitely bar for bar for swap teams, like Shorekeeper is for onfielders

[@Lew98765]

Yeah verina charhes fast, Shorekeep is horreendously slow to charge her concerto without the proper weapon

[@rocerperdon2685]

The aspect of shorekeeper having slow concerto is only on her first rotation. If you do her enhanced intro, it fills up your concerto pretty fast and allows you to continue to the next rotation at a similar speed as Verina

[@Kryto_Gaming]

Totally agreed. SK does catch up in speed if you consistently trigger her enhanced intro, but doing so requires you start from a slow start-up. Another thing to note is that Verina works well as a Moonlit set buffer as well, opening you up for an alternative heal set buffer. A good example is using Jinhsi, Yuan Wu, and Verina. This is a team that can 6 star an Overdrive Tower and works better with Verina over SK.

[@queru2284]

​@@rocerperdon2685 But the need to use SK intro is also not optimal for every team. Some characters like Sanhua/Mortefi prefer to use 2 intros every rotation for faster concerto build. Since Verina doesn't need her intro to build her conterto you can use it on your other character, making rotation even faster.

[@GravenAshes]

Shes also just a fundamentally better pick than shorekeeper for jinhsi the arguably strongest dps in the game right now. I think keeping them at the same tier is fair cause as he says you need to keep in mind their niche

[@neilc4653]

this guy got personal beef with Jiyan 😭

[@childe2001]

And xiangli yao

[@TechyCatz]

1:45 I disagree with this take. Verina is still T0. Yes she is worst than shore keeper but still have insane buffing and healing. Only until we get more characters we can move her down. I don’t think there is a large enough gap to leave shorekeeper in her own tier

[@nicksm2976]

Steparu made a video about Verina and Shorekeeper, TLDR Verina is only better than Shorekeeper if the team rotation with Verina is 4 seconds shorter than Shorekeeper, Verina is also easier to use for duo dps teams.

[@Leon玲央]

I believe Verina will stay T0 or atleast T1, even if new characters come out.

[@-Insert-Name_Here-]

Justice for Jianxin 😭(I typed this before watching the video)

[@kuroyama_naomi]

also Jianxin main here, I always pair her with Xiang Li Yao coz Jianxin outro boosts Resonance Liberation

[@av3_ren]

@@kuroyama_naomi woah rlly? i just got her from the free event wishes, i’ll start building her since i already planned on getting yao’s weapon

[@Beanskiiii]

Brainrot.exe

[@viethoanggamer]

Verina has a way shorter field time than Shorekeeper, and her buff is not that behind either. She's definitely deserves T0

[@The6617]

yeah verina still there for jinhsi teams

[@Haugys]

verina also gives the full buff to the first character you switch into already. shorekeeper needs the team to use 2 intros for the full buff so she is worse for double dps teams than for hyper carries. unless you have s1 shorekeeper then shes pretty much always better but yea the tierlist says s0

[@NAi2004]

​@@Haugystrue but in exhage with it. Her buff is much more stronger. Verina on the other hand has solid buffs and much easier to use. Fast rotation. Both sustain is really good. Shorekeeper needs time to give her full buffs(plus DMG) while Verina is universally easy but offers less buff(and DMG) but with the right time she is just as good(

[@Drejkol]

Not only the buff, but SK healing literally sux. Verina is the panic button when the shit happens. You miss the window for dodge and get hit for 15k - Verina intro > Ulti > Skill > Turtle echo > 2x Charge atk, and you can use intro skill of your main dd to get back on the field with full hp. And even if we start comparing E1, E2, etc. Verina E1 gives her massive healing boost, and E2 cuts her field time to 1 charge atk instead of 2. Both SK and Verina give you massive combat buffs.

[@zippo718]

Just the fact that she's better than SK in some top teams puts her up there.

[@LikeACrouton]

I think if "can carry lower tiers of ToA" is a factor, most of the DPS characters end up in T1.

[@saphirsatillo2357]

I think smack is considering jianxin's defensive capabilities. You don't need to bring a support character with jianxin because of her shield and healing.

[@magoomania6278]

​@@saphirsatillo2357who even bring healer outside floor 4? some characters can even solo floor 1-3..its a bias take..smack wants her to be in tier 1 but agree that calcharo remain at tier 2?? i can still clear floor 4 3star scar boss with calcharo..

[@daviduser779]

​@@saphirsatillo2357 A lvl 70-80 4* dps can solo bruh

[@kranolive]

the different roles have different criteria to fill, based on your logic Camellya should be tier 3 because she doesnt heal as much as shorekeeper. Like lets be for real

[@stylerxo3654]

Meanwhile Jiyan solos the entire first 4 floors of TOA by himself lmao

[@ChandimExtra]

Hey Smack, Prydwen on the tier list said that characters with the expert tag are actually one tier higher than where they are placed if used proper, they just bumped them down for the casuals, Encore was in the same tier as Jiyan before they added the tag to both her and Calcharo

[@Cenzurat]

I really don't agree with Calcharo being that low, since I have him, XY and Encore maxed out with good sets to compare and Danjin, and Havoc Rover. He should be bumped up one, tho his dps is just as good as Encore his kit has big flaws so its where he belongs. U can't rly do worse than danjin or havoc rover even if u play like a bot.

[@Kryto_Gaming]

@ChandimExtra Yeah that's worth noting. I thought about if they should reverse this, place them higher and use Expert to signify the would be lower if not played to expert level. HOWEVER, this is a bad idea as a majority of players do not play at the Expert level. Those who do should have the smarts to realize the tag means they are higher in the list already lol.

[@zippo718]

What the hell is expert about Encore? Canceling her liberation combo with her enhanced skill? Making sure you heavy attack before liberation ends? Makes no damn sense. I'm terrible and clear with Encore as fast as my other limited 5 star teams. She's only mid in AoE stuff.

[@kevinvalencia7982]

@@zippo718 probably the guy who made it have terrible mouse. Mine sometimes get stuck so Encore would use her forte lol. I have to take care for her not to use it when clicking my mouse too fast.

[@ChandimExtra]

@@Kryto_Gaming Oh yeah for sure, I just wanted to let Smack know about it.

[@beastlessgohan1638]

I just watched a Saintontas video about the tier list and this comes up as well 😂, can’t wait to hear your opinions too

[@ziggszag1650]

Same xD

[@Bakemer94]

Same XD

[@DefinitelyNotAFerret]

Same xd

[@Smilehp7]

Same Dx

[@saymonabir3161]

Same xd

[@slime3630]

Another thing no one is talking about with Jianxin is her 38 percent liberation dmg bonus on outro to next resonator. Shes so good as a sub dps and buffer.

[@DefinitelyNotAFerret]

I honestly don't know why I visit tier lists when all I do is build husbandos

[@kalrec3947]

Same lol, I only build my male chars, easier when there are only two limited anyways anyways :')

[@TopTOBiiiii]

Ikr

[@ThegreatHera420]

I personally don’t build character I don’t like unless there’s literally no other options and even then I do the utmost minimum. For some reason I listened to the whole video as well

[@stylerxo3654]

Same

[@uwugriffith]

We out here fr

[@LargeBanana]

I COMPLETELY AGREE, XLY is underrated. He got so many nuances that makes him crazy. Hypercube teleport, max forte teleport, slowdown and so on. Giga AoE + grouping. Danjin part, I can solo Overdrive middle tower with her. There isn't a single 5* character or 4* character that can do this except Danjin. ONLY danjin can solo overdrive tower.

[@anonymousvegito934]

Your Wuwa content is so chill to watch, I like how direct u are. Tectone has his own demons to deal with rn, Pokke is dealing with he other side of Wuwa community. You the only one covering Wuwa properly rn😂

[@Fate_is_amazing]

Pokke antagonised himself tbh 💀 can’t be shocked that you threw a rock at a pack of dogs and they came running after you

[@deeptobhattacharyya3249]

Pokke brought the war to the community and now he gotta deal with it

[@GaliBurton]

It's pokke own fault

[@Zerojf-d7n]

​@@deeptobhattacharyya3249they fought with pokke day1 of wuwa it's not like he started it

[@Zerojf-d7n]

​​@@Fate_is_amazingno he just didn't like the game so just like every community if you didn't like the game in general you are now will get attacked by the ppl who like it and are ready to waste hours of their lifes to just make your opinion look like a sin

[@OutisGreen]

Changli is slowly become one of the most valuable character to have in an account, she is literally everywhere. You want a solid on field DPS ? she gotchu. You want a sub DPS to boost your team damage ? She gotchu. You want something fun and difficult to get into like QS ? she is ya girl. She right now has so much value while still don't have her BIS partner like Jiyan and XL.

[@av3_ren]

i heard that brant might be her best partner as a support/buffer/subdps(?). i have her and her weapon, i know exactly who i’m gonna get lol

[@megadoodoo3194]

​@@av3_ren nah,brant boost heavy attack damage,hes built for jiyan

[@invin_2940]

I quit at 1.0 after losing yinlin 50/50 and I came back at 1.3 for camellya/shorekeeper. I actually considered coming back 1.1 before for changli specifically (love her design so much), but I couldn't bring myself to play the game again. Now? I regret not getting her, I'm a casual player for now, but changli alone would make me start tryharding in this game just for her. When I said I wanna get changli on her rerun, someone said "man they butchered changli, they buffed jinhsi so much and changli does like no damage compared to her", so I'm glad at least that she's still one of the best character in the game.

[@gavi99k]

@@megadoodoo3194 Brant is 25 Skill deepen + 20 Fusion

[@av3_ren]

@@megadoodoo3194 even better! i have jiyan too lol

[@rielyyy]

i agree with most stuff except for a few things and im bored so i feel like yapping abt it 1. verina and shorekeeper both being t0 makes sense considering both of their rotations aren’t that far off from each other since teams with verina can even clear faster than teams with shorekeeper depending on the scenario. regarding healing, iirc verina heals more than shorekeeper as well. verina is usually better than shorekeeper in jinhsi comps too. 2. as a sustain, jianxin is clunky and takes way too much field time to get her shield up especially at s0 and even worse without marcato gauntlets to help her dookie concerto energy regen to even get her outro buff and she feels worse than baizhi to me hence why her rating makes sense imo. 3. sanhua absolutely deserves to be t0…she’s a free character that you can literally throw into any team comp and it works very good since she’s the best holder for moonlit set right now and when i say she works in every team i literally mean every damn team… 4. i disagree with the potential argument for yinlin to go back t0 when yao+yinlin+sk clears slower than like every other yao team comp; the team has high dmg per screenshot but thats it. the problem with yinlin is that she’s not BiS for like ANY team like any team that yinlin could work on ends up with her not being the first pick and usually not even the 2nd or 3rd pick either. you can’t even say that yinlin’s dmg helps her out either when theres some calcs showing that sanhua does similar dmg to a fully built yinlin so why even bother potentially spending like 80-160 pulls on yinlin when a free character like sanhua works just as a good and usually even better.

[@zoa9720]

Yinlin is that bad? I had no idea. She always felt pretty strong and they're always fairly high in tower popularity. Is Changli actually his best teammate or Sanhua?

[@rielyyy]

@@zoa9720she may feel that way but the calcs mostly prove otherwise. changli is only BiS if you want to play quickswap which can be a pretty tricky to learn, but if you want more a challenge in this game then thats a way to go lol. im more casual with it so i just use sanhua. however if you already have yinlin then theres no harm in continuing to use her in yao teams or jinhsi teams etc since it still clears toa its just that people overhype tf outta yinlin so im just saying to everyone that if you don’t have her then don’t feel pressured by other people’s surface leveled opinions to pull her.

[@tsumuriiillust3789]

Shoutout to my other Spectro Rover mains!

[@mavericksantos998]

Yep Spectrover is a beast on his own. Quick reliable combos doing more than decent dmg.

[@azix2915]

I still can't believe Kuro gave us Xiangli Yao for free like he's just some character when he's actually an insanely good one. I never got spoiled like this by a gacha game ever 😭

[@Play_time7]

I think its fine to put quickswap units into dps list when all they bring is damage, I feel like hybrid is more for characters that actually buff teammates in some way. Maybe they can split the dps list into two groups somehow not sure what that would look like. I don't understand why they insist on putting jianxin and yangyang in support, both have always screamed the definition of hybrid to me.

[@silhouette9699]

As a Danjin former main - I can confirm, she's t0.5 100%. I don't think there's a point to talk about dmg numbers here. Easily the most satisfying character to play. She's the most "Lock in" also, you feel the control you have over character, they not just flying everywhere, doing their own thing, everything you do is full under control. That is extremely satisfying. I wish we had a dedicated support for her playstyle

[@Cobalt_Rain]

Danjin doesn't deal only one type of damage, right? So we would essentially need another danjin (straight havoc buffer) to giver her a dedicated support, or am I trippin and she does deal mostly one type?

[@silhouette9699]

​@@Cobalt_Rainwell, most of her dmg are coming from her heavy attack, hence why on of the best supports is Mortefi. But she also does quite a lot of dmg with her na, skill and ult. So yeah, a havoc support would be best for her. Or a support that buffs characters depending on their hp loss

[@Cobalt_Rain]

@silhouette9699 true, so furina, lol

[@SunderMun]

Point you made about not understanding the units...yeah...WuWa tries to boil kits down to overall roles they can fit into, but it just doesn't do it justice. I barely even know what my characters do without watching multiple YT videos to try and understand lmao they're so complex.

[@Aezthet1C]

Imma be honest looking at those wall of text kit already making my head hurt, let alone understanding it first time read it

[@izumolee6714]

I feel Prydwen when it comes to Wuthering Waves specifically rate the characters at a very basic level ie: damage and utility on an individual basis and either ignoring or disregarding each characters worth within a team set up. Like totally agree with your takes on Jianxin and Yangyang, both of them provide so much more than what Prydwen rate them as or see them as.

[@Kryto_Gaming]

I hard disagree. I think they are taking team comps into account. My by Yuan Wu who is a Goat would be down with Taoqi if it weren't for the Jinhsi synergy. Likewise Mortefi is as high as he is because of his Jiyan synergy.

[@izumolee6714]

@@Kryto_Gaming Sure they may be taking team comps into account but it's at a very basic level. I saw Sai's video about this and i agree Prydwen's categorizing of characters is what is screwing everything up. There are so many characters in WuWa who can play multiple roles. Like Danji can be a main dps or be a sub dps...etc. I think that is why Prydwen is having such a difficult time placing characters and it is made worse cause the DPS/Hybrid/Sustain aren't as cut and dry as other gacha games.

[@Kryto_Gaming]

@izumolee6714 I agree on the part that categorization complicates things. The solution I think would be to just put characters in different ratings in different categories. Yes it risks confusion, but not more so that things already are. So a rating for Danjin as on field full dps, and one for her as a quick swap support etc.

[@Zer0Perplexity]

I don't think they should be rated higher than Baizhi though. At least not in the Support category, maybe some argument in the Hybrid/Sub-DPS category.

[@shachede6828]

They said it’s not updated

[@thejewishpeople1970]

Also hate to comment twice. But Calcharo and XLY are actually insanely close in output solely because XLY’s ult is 25s and not 20s. It matters a shit ton. I think in terms of main dps, jinhsi jiyan and camellya are the clear top 3, and xly/encore/calcharo (if you can play him PERFECTLY) are a clear step down. Ulti cooldown is such an important aspect of ToA clear times and it holds XLY back a TON

[@AzureDrag0n1]

Yes but this is not a dps or speed run tier list. Clacharo and XLY together have been used to get world records at the 0+1 category. Meaning their dps output sometimes surpasses that of every other tier 0 team in the game. I have seen that team and Clacharo + Havoc Rover team clear ToA floors in 28 seconds. Meaning not even Jinshi or Changli best team with their signatures can match them sometimes. It is just very very hard to use Calcharo like that so he is appropriately low tier. In speed runs a lot of characters are actually very very close to each other in damage output so this game is surprisingly well balanced at this point. The limited characters are just so much easier to use. Changli requiring more skill than the others as she is best used in quick swap.

[@thejewishpeople1970]

@ and I don’t disagree with the calcharo placement, but between xly being consistently worse than the two dps ahead of him in both burst and rotational dps and the fact it is a ToA tierlist, there isn’t really an argument to put xly in a tier he really doesn’t belong in

[@christopherflores5405]

i use yangyang with chang li with the concerto energy 4* sword. she's nuts. i originally used yangyang as my main dps at launch until yinlin's banner came out so i was pretty familiar with her battery kit. by the time i got the concerto energy sword, i already had chang li and chang li's fit with yangyang's battery is just soooo good.

[@rjthom5]

I disagree on ranking Baizhi lower than T1. I bet the vast majority of the player base is bad at dodging and worse at parrying (like me). The healing component of support is critical for me, and she is more than sufficient for whatever rotation she's a part of. I finally scored my first 30/30 TOA right before 1.4, and the last floor I got 3 stars on was Jinhsi, Changli, and Bahzhi.

[@meowblaziken5634]

Agree on Xiangli Yao deserve to be T0, that guy is so easy to play, very newbie friendly, just ult and spam E, and with his time slow can easy dodge too.

[@mighty_midgit9904]

Excellant video!! As someone who owns everyone in the game I agree with most of your points! Look forward to more content man keep it up!!🤝

[@badqualityfrog9367]

16:55 Yeah I have a dps Aalto build and he is devastating because his ult and skill amplify your bullets and summon even more to barrage the enemies and with sanhua you’re dealing 4-6k per shot which is crazy

[@Zer0Perplexity]

Yeah i like how every character is essentially usable (aside from Yuanwu & Toaqi outside of Jinhsi team). Recently solo'd an entire tower with him.

[@vroxis5421]

Thank you for the content TierlistSmack

[@Red_behelit9]

Alto is not an amplifier he is a DPS with solid dmg

[@magdieldexter]

He has the same outro as Danjin right? (Swaping elements) so I guess thats why people say that

[@Red_behelit9]

@@magdieldexter yeah but he doesn't generate concerto energy fast enough to count him and the only aero dps has a support that works better with him

[@nikolowolokin]

smack is effortlessly funny on top of being knowledgeable too. gotta be my favorite gacha/wuwa cc. agree with your takes, some of these placements just feels like they got put there so the tiers are more evenly distributed just cause. no hate to prydwen tho, i use em a lot. lookin forward to the danjin tho, smack!!

[@shelzor]

Chixia doesnt belong there for sure. I use her with my changli and the standard 5 star weapon and she slaps so fucking hard. Ult alone hits for nearly 100k, her skill does really good damage as well. I don't even have all her constellations, shes just s4 which means she can be even stronger. The only issue with her is getting attacked while using her skill cancela its last big hit, but thats just something you need to learn to use at the right time. Ofc shes not the best but theres no way shes all the way down there, she deserves T1 at least.

[@f.b.l.9813]

Chixia is a BEAST!

[@disable212]

as Chixia main I still don't understand why she wasn't rated at least at Danjin lvl, the damage and range of her ult is huge, and her counter attacks hit like a truck and she has incredibly fun to play with Changli. Btw Yangyang support, because she's in a heal set and with a 3* sword for healing, like wtf prydwen

[@franzjackson7625]

Chixia damage is really high tbh. Hitting 150k+ in toa in a huge aoe

[@invernofuyu2542]

16:12 That! I focused on Rover (Espectro) and really liked it, but I was VERY surprised when I saw its placement on the Tierlist. For a second I even thought about changing her to my team, but wow, she was doing her job so well. There was no way I could do that. I was afraid to think this because I'm just a casual player, but for me my thought was that I understood the character's Tier better than the reliable Tierlist. And apparently I was right, there's no way she could be T2.

[@angelduarte4202]

Verina heals more than shorekeeper

[@GlacioDreadmane]

but that aspect can be covered by dodging

[@Indom182]

​@@GlacioDreadmane L take

[@Lew98765]

Yeah she absolutely does, Verina heal more

[@Red_behelit9]

She does but shore keeper heals evey 3 sec for the hole team rotation which is more comfy

[@Lew98765]

@Red_behelit9 idk It last long but find it very slow and it doesnt heal lot, especialy on shorekeeper herself who have more than 30k hp she take years to heal herself due to her long skill cooldown and not staying on field, while Verina just set everyone back to 100% whenever she use her skill and consume one forte gauge, and S2 she just get 2 forte per skill aside the one from intro and some concerto so it make it even better to full heal then quickswap

[@DimitriWithLemon]

Lot of solid and interesting takes! Excited to hear what your thoughts in the future as the meta evolves! One note I would say about mortefi, which you might experience when you build danjin. Mortefi is very easy to build to outro, does a lot of damage, and quite a short rotation. Imo he is danjin best hybrid, and she makes use of his outro bonus. I also think mortefi is great with jinhsi as he has so many coordinated attacks, good damage, and swaps easy. Though she unfortunately doesn't get outro skill usage.

[@DimitriWithLemon]

Also with constellations on mortefi, ever skill click danjin does, fires off another set of mortefi's liberation. Super good damage!

[@vickdinvick5485]

man, i think the real problem with do a tier list on wuwa right now that ppl would mostly agree is that we cant build those characters, for exemple, myself cant even fully lvl camellya right now, i have alto, yangyang and danjin on my wait list to lvl them up since forever but i cant, and i play since the start only took a break when xianliao came up, wich i regret because i missed his wep, thankfully the rerun is around the corner, but the resources, at least for me, is the biggest problem right now

[@Zer0Perplexity]

I don't see how, I'm pretty much out of main DPS's to build and Im working on Aalto's echoes at the moment and I started after Yinlin release. I've built: H. Rover, S. Rover, Yinlin, Xiangli Yao, Jinhsi, Encore, Danjin, & Camellya. All f2p, just gotta watch how much you put into Tacet Fields before you finish building up their talents.

[@jrmy6519]

I remember playing xiangli Yao as a trial in one of the recent combat events...my screen couldn't even display the numbers before the enemies were already falling and dissipating. To be fair, I was able to pair him with trial yinlin and there were buffs going on as well, but nobody else besides jinhsi could keep up, and im sure camellya if she was released during that time as well. It just feels like a no-brainer that he belongs in T0, and to top it all off he was free.

[@Lol-Lol0]

Finally someone who saw value on yangyang. Her flexibility, her fast concerto, her grouping (tho only minimal), and lastly her battery. I think even she works well with jinshi as well since if u only need another extra 20 energy for jinshi to ult every rotation then even jinshi dmg will go up. Xiangli yao as well. Xiangli yao is a character where u can play as either quick swap and hypercarry style. With yangyang on his team he can definitely keep bursting like crazy.

[@ryryisthe1]

now forgive me if im wrong cuz this is just going off of their kits BUT a lingyang, zhezhi and youhu team genuinely sounds like it would fucking decimate if fully mapped out and invested (along with lingyang holding yao’s signature? absolutely) anyone feel free to factcheck me or even prove my point cuz even tho i dont have lingyang or zhezhi i’ve always been really interested in their potential

[@Stardrifter404]

Yep agreed. Prydwen tier list at this point doesnt make any sense mainly for the Hybrid + Healer roles. DPS tiers are mostly fine. They should take a look at it and fix it up especially before people return for 2.0.

[@seunabe4612]

Verina is also better for Jinhsi if that counts for anything

[@Na.than_iel]

She also better in dual dps teams like yao and changli

[@falstroemeria]

what makes chixia good is the obvious range/mobility adavantage. Ppl know of it but underestimate how well it plays out to do non stop sustained dmg.

[@sakutaro3musik486]

you can do the first 3 floors with any character putting jianxing tier 1 for that would be like making venti T1 in genshin just because he is free clear until the last floor. but when it comes to meta we care about the last floor everything before doen´t matter

[@rhianx]

I've been playing Changli everyday since she came out. I've always wondered why people say she's "hard to play" and "hard to master" and "very fragile" and then I realized it's true what you're saying here lmao. I've mastered her playstyle because she's my favorite and I haven't stopped playing her (played new characters for a week and then go back to her lol). Based on my investment tho, she's clearing as quick as Camellya. The problem with her is that she does need some time to master AND investment.

[@rakyatjelata018]

I believe that the Quick Swap team operates as a dual DPS capable of dealing damage equally. Characters can switch when another character's skill or echo is on cooldown. For Changli, the best option for Quick Swap currently is Xiang Liyao > Encore > Havoc MC. This is why a fast concerto sub dps character with lower damage output is better suited for hyper carry for fast rotation and just there for buffer and not dmg dealer.

[@thejewishpeople1970]

Quick swap changli teams are consistently the fastest teams in the game. Jinhsi’s fastest team with isn’t with yinlin or zhezhi. It’s with changli. Changli is the best character in the game imo

[@AzureDrag0n1]

This is not a speed run tier list. It is a how easy it is to clear ToA with this character tier list. There is some overlap but there are characters many tiers below that sometimes blow higher tier characters out of the water in speed runs. Calcharo for example is one of the best quickswap characters in the game for speed runs as it lets you use his liberation while still using the skill and liberations of the second dps like Calcharo and Xiangli Yao who can use both liberations at the same time. That is not easy to do for the average player though so Calcharo is low tier.

[@TheXtreme615]

Baizhi gives a glacio damage boost at S6 that’s why she is in the same category

[@PenultimatePenPen]

Also gotta get those last 3 wavebands for Havoc rover. Feels like Kuro forgot about them

[@WhosTrigg]

The yinlin disrespect on this tierlist is crazy when her ass can be put on literally any mf team and she’s the 2nd best option (shore keeper, jiyan, changli, jinshi) or the literal best (xiangli Yao, Calcharo, havoc rover) and even if she’s not the best option on a team her good damage and short asf field time required to execute it makes her a really good option anywhere. Idk how tf they got sanhua t0 when she’s only best in slot with one character (camellya) and while changli is very good like you said she’s a hard asf character to make perform at a t0 level so she should have the expert tag (expert tag means that the character is one tier higher with a good player using them. It’s why encore is t1 she’s t0.5 with a skilled player) and be moved down to t0.5. When changli eventually gets a better synergistic character I can def seeing her moving up tho but yea yinlin is the best hybrid character bar none and she should not be in the same tier as two frauds that are only good with one team 💀

[@malificajones7674]

Yinlin is my favourite subdps. She's an absolute beast. This tier list is completely whacked.

[@king_pred3453]

Fellow Silksong waiter

[@FishboyAbzu]

I agree and I consider her same level as Zhezhi

[@Zer0Perplexity]

Sanhua is Encore's, Camellya's, Lingyang and Aalto's BiS Sub-DPS. She's also H. Rover's, Xiangli Yao's, and somewhat Changli's alternative Sub-DPS. Yinlin doesn't buff Jiyan at all, any mobs that she would mark for him would die quickly to him anyway. She also has terribly long field time if you're not abusing quick swaps to make her quicker.

[@WhosTrigg]

@@Zer0Perplexity This is just not true. Sanhua is not Encores BiS, (Changli is) Lingyang is not a good unit so her being good with him shouldn't matter for her position in the tier list, She is not Havoc Rovers BiS, (Havoc MC normal attack multiplers are dogshit and if ur trying to run sanhua to buff it you are coping. A sub dps like Changli, Yinlin, or Danjiin are just better there) to even put her in a conversation with Xiangli yao when yinlin clears her in every category for that mfs teams is wild lmao, she is worse than encore and yinlin for changli, and while she doesn't buff jiyan like I said even in a team where she buffs nothing she is still useful because of her good dmg offield and onfield and her very short onfield requirements therefor in a team like jiyan where neither sanhua or yinlin can actually buff ur main dps yinlin is just better bc she does more damage. She does not have terribly long field time you are just playing her bad. So to sum it up Sanhua is only better in a camellya team and in every other team you listed yinlin is just a better option or the dps is just bad so who even cares. So how exactly can a unit who is again only BiS in one actually good team a tier above a unit who is BiS in multiple and 2nd best in many others even if she does 0 buffing whatsoever? Yes Sanhua is a very good 4 star support (imo the best we have rn) but at this current state of the game she doesnt have nearly enough synergy with the current best dps's in the game to be placed at T0. (lingyang and aalto)

[@traplegend5065]

Changli Chixia is a crazy team. Deals more damage than calcharo or lingyang ever wished they could. (as a lingyang and chixia main)

[@Zer0Perplexity]

You don't really see them used in the top levels of play tbh.

[@franzjackson7625]

@@Zer0Perplexitydoesn’t mean chixia is minimum tier 1 with changli tho

[@larccadana4182]

Xiangli Yao being a free 5 star character has significantly helped me with my game progression. As a casual player, all I have to do is pretty much spam his skills and get insane damage. Can't thank KURO enough for their generosity

[@stylerxo3654]

The undervaluing of Jiyan is crazy lmao. His damage is just as high in his rotation as Xiangli Yao, Jihnsi and Camellya. The thing is that he just doesn't have that initial nuke that they do. Like, sure, i can understand the thought of hin being koser than them, and i dont disagree, but saying Danjin and Encore do just as much is insane to me lmao. Especially Encore. Like, heah, shr "can", but only under the oretende of your pkaying her perfectly and never getting staggered. The moment she gets staggered, with her clunky ass animations, thats when Jiyan eclipses her.

[@Silz42]

DANG BROOO, I Didn't think of using other units before main team to clear ToA floors. Thanks for covering this, I've yet gain another wisdom from Unc Smack. Edit: Jiyan main here and I don't really feel bad when new units come and take a spot in the peak. He did his job at launch, still performing till now is admirable. No regrets though since I got him on S1 with 10 pulls (double drop is crazy) and 20 pulls on sig weap.

[@LuquePlayer]

I 100% Agree on Yao, and he works with basically any of the best Sub DPS, his basic sequence is insane with Sanhua, Yinlin I dont even need to coment, Zhezi also give him good buffs, and he works insane with Changli, Calcharo and Spectro-Rover in quick swap duo DPS. He is my favorite character to play so far, and was free

[@obryzii]

i think that a lot of things will "sort itself out" once we start to get new characters added to the game. for example, team roles/character roles will become more clear. i stopped looking at prydwen for wuwa because there were times i looked at pages for characters, but i didn't feel like they were updated? it's been a long time since then, so maybe they plan to do more with the coming of 2.0 to echo what some others said: yeah, smack is one of the few larger creator keeping it real with wuwa right now. when i watch other ccs, it feels like going into a middle school girls' locker room 💀 as time goes on, the drama gold fish will leave, and i think that's part of it. i just want people to treat this game normally. sheesh.

[@salad771]

Xiangli Yao being underestimated by the community is largely because of him being a free unit. ppl just assume "oh this character must be weak because he was a 5 star that was given away for free".

[@UNDERFACE2024]

Try Yao and changli team and while In Yao ult u can quick swap between them

[@uzshanka1676]

I don't think it worth to rate a unit high if they can clear trash floor fast. I'd put Jinxin even lower.

[@Zer0Perplexity]

Yeah definitely not above Baizhi in the Support category. She's more of a Sub-DPS if anything.

[@avi8183]

8:21 nah, it WILL work with yao, yao is actually really really reaaaaally good with changli in the quick swap team.Hecc I'd even say yao,changli and shorekeeper is probably the most fun team i have ever played in ANY of the gacha games i have played. its a little bit hard to trigger shorekeeper's super intro tho so you can use verina too. Rest of the things i agree with you but i believe s6 sanhua deserves the T0 spot. probably not in hybrid class but maybe in the support class...? purely because her concerto generation is so damn fast at s6 that's a 100%uptime on 42.5%atk and 12%dmg buff from echo with almost non existent field time. Her playstyle is very human too. Very easy to use.

[@_Bleh_83]

Yeah changli and Xiangli Yao is such a fun pair I only tried this in events because I don't have changli

[@aaaa-db7vk]

wuwa is the typa game that u kinda really need to try the character yourself to grasp the character value and to see if the playstyle fits u or nah imo

[@fbisbrother5863]

WuWa is one of those game where every character is powerful in their own way

[@Radon-O_O]

I completely agree with your take on spectro rover, he is just really solid and is overshadowed by havoc rover. He’s really good for team comps

[@bigfootisreal_]

Changli+Encore might do more damage than Changli+Chixia, but the latter is way more fun to do quick swap.

[@imjustlikedenji5954]

Sanhua really is insane by the way, her ability and design are cool for starters, but maybe it's cause I have her resonance chains, her concerto and ult are up 100% of the time. Intro, skill, ult, heavy and swap. I'm sure if I build her she will also do some decent damage lol, but for now I'm just running her with Camellya

[@stefanusunicorn7483]

Lets not forget how many players are danjin main, including myself. No matter how low her placement in tier list, we most likely still use her no matter what. Personally, I use her as havoc rover's support inside ToA. And for every new hologram released, I'll use danjin for sure to beat it unless the boss has a rly high havoc resistance and HP.

[@alryanlicup7089]

The fact that Verina charges her concerto at a blink of an eye is what makes her T0

[@licking9334]

Satisfied with my S6 Yangyang + S0R1 Changli easily clear the new middle ToA. Despite Prydwen said Yangyang deal minimum dmg, is a support, at S6. Mine dealing a total of 103k each burst + skill is crazy

[@seanmcroberts2381]

I feel bad cause I've seen so many good things come from my boi Calcharo, I picked him in the free pick and even though he's not my main type of character I play in game (I like magic) I don't mind him at all, I'm still VERY early into this game since only being a week in, but early on he seems fine and I feel confident I can do solid in later stages, what I have picked up is how basic attack reliant he is and so trying to do big DMG and stay alive during his ULT can be difficult, it's one of those things where if there was ever a character that was able to make use of all those autos he's doing or a change where his skill can still give him liberation charges so he can pop that off faster since his kit revolves around it, something like that would be a good change for him that's not gonna break him. Just my opinion.

[@foodflare9870]

Yangyang is great with Encore, imo, she can be swapped into when Encore does her skill to group the enemies lightly with intro and skill, then back to Encore to finish the skill attack, then Encore Heavy basic, go to Yangyang to ult echo skill, either to your 3rd character, or back to Encore. Part of it is they said 4*s get their 6 copies, so Mortefi gets the team a buff with basically 100% uptime and if you have the first one, the skill spammers he can be partnered with make his firing thing trigger quite a bit. Also, Zhezhi has a lot more on field time damage than I think a lot of people realize, and she can basically do infinite midair combo to birds if you hold skill, then each time you go to a bird do a basic, heavy basic, basic, skill. And with that, most enemies just can't even hit her most of the time. I think there's a lot more to Wuthering Waves characters that lets them feel different so they haven't had to go as much toward power creep, so they can make these crazy strong characters early and people can still want the new ones cause they're a cool character and/or they have a new playstyle and maybe new ways to interface with your other characters.

[@loitranmanh3909]

Agree with your take on Yao tho. He put out the same dmg as camellya for me.

[@imjustlikedenji5954]

Encore does good damage actually, but unlike Jiyan she can't reliably parry everything so she might get interrupted sometimes Other than that, she is good as well

[@someonesomewhere8658]

It's better to dodge counter than parry

[@darkadia6520]

I was using Changli as a main ever since her banner came out she is by far one of the strongest in the game, she's T0 bro enough said.

[@SmackSanRB]

W vid brotha, keep it up.

[@TopTOBiiiii]

20:49 Nah bro I'm a Jiyan main but I know that he's not on their level, still I find him comfy and I just like seeing my fav on the screen. What I'm salty about is his mid animations and gacha animation man I hope we get avatars and skins as remakes to older characters or smth 😭

[@eatyourspinalcord]

Same bro

[@wingszerodrive]

I use Yang Yang in Yao cause no yinlin but man her grouping and fast battery is soooo good

[@XenoWars]

I agree with pretty much everything you said, except with moving Danjin to T1, I would mark her with the Expert tag which would mean when played properly she can be 0.5. It takes an immense amount of skill to actually be able to play her well, due to being low in hp almost all the time. Think of her like Hu Tao from Genshin (except she doesn't do more damage at low hp). Now, with Aalto, I would rate him at T1 on the DPS side. When played properly, he actually is on the field for quite some time doing insane amounts of damage. Now, not as much as Jiyan and them of course, but when you read his kit and realize that at S5-6 he is supposed to be spamming mid-air attacks through his mist, he does incredible damage for a 4 star with not a lot of effort. The only part of him that would make him Hybrid is that he boosts Aero damage on his outro.

[@TX-ml2pk]

calcharo is the most amazing character in the game. he is so cool i cant even think about other characters. yes he may be bad at meta but i love him no matter what!

[@ragingflare123]

This is from the most recent experience in ToA (Tower of Adversity) Cleared full stars with: Left Tower - Camellya Hypercarry (Camellya, Sanhua, Verina) Right Tower - Jinhsi Zhezhi Quickswap(Jinhsi, Zhezhi, Baizhi) Middle Tower - XLY Hypercarry (Xiangli Yao, Yinlin, Shorekeeper) Keep in mind that the 4th stage boss in the right tower is resistant to electro, so you don't want to use XLY Yinlin. You will struggle to clear it in time with f2p investment. Left tower is easily doable with any Camellya team with S0 R0 due to the Havoc DMG Bonus and Basic ATK Bonus it provides. The Middle tower is where it gets tricky, you do not want to use Jinhsi here because the bosses are Spectro resistant, especially the mourning aix I had trouble with. Use Xiangli and Yinlin along with a powerful damage buffer like Shorekeeper to clear middle tower in time. Again, I DO NOT own Youhu, but she is indeed an upgrade over Baizhi in many scenarios. If you own Youhu, use her over Baizhi, Baizhi is only there because I had no other option for healer since Verina and Shorekeeper is already used in one of my 2 other teams.

[@CallMeTeci]

So for the Expert Tag, it is not "only in this tier, if you know how to play". It is and i quote: "Characters tagged with the Expert Tag can be considered one placement higher than their tier list ranking, but you need to master their advanced/harder playstyle for them to qualify for that higher rating." Tho i do agree that it would be easier to understand if it was "This Tier if" and not "One Tier higher if". I also would appreciate an Easy Tag for brain dead chars.

[@seiker96]

Changli with Chixia quick swap is the most fun team in the game (for me at least)

[@skyMcWeeds]

Its amazing how great Xiangli Yao is for a free unit 😂 my skills issues with Calcharo disappeared with XY

[@tobisetanta]

Bro you’re spitting so hard for YangYang. I always thought it was absurd that Prydwen ranks her so low. She is not only pretty good, but FUN gameplay wise too!

[@anwarbogabong1152]

I do agree that Spectro Rover should be moved up! Spectro Rover with Jue as echo is OP. Moreover, he is so fast in generating Concerto Energy, has a good OUTRO effects, and aside from nuking, he can heal. They gotta add more value to him as a hybrid character. Too many players are sleeping on him.

[@Kasraken]

I agree! You were spot on about those characters then got misrepresented!

[@nicirochi0]

Wuwa is following the PGR meta and is waaaay different than the Hoyo-standart The suports shares field time, the sub-dps share field time and one is giving buff to another and the cycle continues. You can go just with dps roles and still do fine, the skill check is way higher than Hoyo games (Skil>Ult Change characters)

[@blackmound22]

Lmao the admition of him loving taoqi was so relatable 😂 good day to you cultured sir

[@DifféranceHorizon]

I think similarly to what you said about Yinlin & Yao, I think Zezhi should be T0 with Jinhsi, as someone who mains Jinhsi and has her fully invested, I do think she's such a major necessity to speeding up Jinhsi's rotations, those like myself who skipped Zezhi or didn't get her are probably def feeling how much slower rotations are without her for our Jinhsi. Though yes, Yuanwu is def a solid replacement

[@SaarSergey]

1) Jianxin is not a support, it is a hybrid that does the same as Yinlin, only 5-8% worse than it. It should be in T1 or T0.5 column of hybrids 2) Lingyang is in the squad with Sanhua on a par with Xiangli Yao. The people from the pride haven just haven't learned how to play the lion cub. 3) C6 Chicsia T1

[@barrotkg]

I hate what they did with Ling Yang, I did the middle tower this week with Ling Yang and I don't understand why they talk bad about him

[@pluhut]

My most built characters are Jianxin and Taoqi. Mouse Girl will also be a "main" because of her asSets. Needless to say I hate tierlists. What tierlists don't account for is safety of the char or rather the ability to have acceptable damage without too much effort. Jianxin - forte circuit, everything in a large AoE takes damage. Taoqi - build up energy, ult and cleave everything infront of you, and can self-heal back to full if needed, etc etc. I appreciate the efforts of those who sweat and show off skill, like Caramba and Danjin mains, but I'll take the lower total damage output if it means I gain more control over the fights and lesser margin of error. I don't like playstyles in any game where if you do one thing wrong or miss a timing, your char drops dead. I do still try to play optimally tho, but only so long it is within my choice of units and fun I have with the game.

[@juniorr4127]

GREAT VIDEO!!! My only negative comment to this video is YangYang and Xiangli Yao are amazing together in a quick swap team. Done right Xiangli Yao gets his Ult back after his third sphere because you can build energy whiles he is in his ult state. Plus he as long animations to swap out...never use his normal attacks again.

[@zxcxzxc]

Agree with all your takes unc, XLY most broken dps in the game, I feel like he’s so underrated

[@Dext69]

Verina being on T0 makes semce becoz of her little on field time and filling concerto for Jinhsi. Her rotation is easiest and shortest if u have proper ER and HP on her.

[@dragondude1012]

Jiyan is definitely a tier 0.5 but he’s not “powercrept” by any means lol. Dude is still an absolute beast for TOA and the up coming pincer maneuver. He has issues like the boss potential jumping away but that’s an about it. DPS wise he’s not that far behind otherwise.

[@treebush]

It’s up to WuWa content creator to make tierlist cont now if they want more active community.

[@earncredible]

They are under valuing Yang yang. She’s so fun to play with Changli on a quick swap team.

[@katzumi1560]

Jianxins fall from grace is so sad man. floor 1 and maybe in it for her but floor 3 now features Elite enemies and my Jianxin is stuggeling like crazy. maybe in the distant feature we get a PF mode (like in HSR) that will make her shine a bit more.

[@24zer0nd]

I think Kuro didnt expect the amount of success they got, thats why Calcharo was nerfed so hard, they wanted to protect the limited characters...but they just didnt need to.