VI VS JINX IS PURE CHAOS! | Arcane Season 2 Married Reaction | Ep 2x3, “Finally Got The Name Right”

[@LettsReact]

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[@The-Nexus-of-Creation]

The cool cat spy person Is named Lest and she’s a trans girl!😸 Her voice actress is also trans :3 (I haven’t done much lore research so I might be wrong) I’m pretty sure the furry-like characters are half human, half magical creature And they have the ability to change how they look over time, which is very convenient if you’re trans like Lest🏳️‍⚧️

[@bobbybean-gn9kp]

Do you also include the episode on the bottom of the screen in the patreon reactions?

[@LettsReact]

@ yep!

[@skylofter6840]

@@The-Nexus-of-Creation not to be that person but only certain vastaya have the ability to transform their appearance. Also creatures other fluffy creatures like heim and smeech are of a different race called yordles that are spirits and technically immortal but the vastaya (aka lest and like xayah, sett, rakan etc etc from the game) are people mostly from ionia but can be found all over that were born from well uh not fun things (lil bit of animal human breeding) but they are yes humans with animal traits. Some like neeko from the game can transform their appearance while others like nidalee can transform into a full animal while many others like sett and lest are just mostly normal humans with a few enhanced features like lests enhanced hearing.

[@DanGamingFan2406]

The shot of Vi on her knees crying as Caitlyn leaves is so reminiscent of Powder on her knees crying as Vi leaves. Absolutely heartbreaking.

[@The-Nexus-of-Creation]

I never noticed that😭😭😭

[@SS-hd5jx]

this show does a lot of parallels between scenes and characters. upon rewatching, a lot of it really comes together.

[@9TrixieTurner6]

Yeah it felt weirdly out of place like they really wanted to try and make that comparison but it comes off forced as hell. Still gives us all the funny cop wife beater memes though.

[@mandalore1089]

@@9TrixieTurner6 I don't think you know what forced means...

[@xxlCortez]

Except Vi never actually left Powder.

[@brandonbillhartz2139]

Vi's reaction to the kid covering jinx was partly due to her realization that she was about to kill a Zaunite while wearing an enforcer uniform, the exact same way she remembers her parents being killed. She realized she became the very thing she hated her entire life.

[@LettsReact]

Woooow that's a whole angle i didn't consider for that moment. Details are just incredible in this show!

[@KyamaKira]

Fun fact the children singing in the background here 26:43 are actually singing prayers for fresh or clean air to the "wispy wind women" barely refrenced at about 22:10

[@toamszkozak8822]

And also it's in a language from Shurima ,the region that the "wind woman" is originally from

[@holee1341]

Janna

[@KyamaKira]

@@holee1341 yes but they don't KNOW that so shush

[@KyamaKira]

@toamszkozak8822 yeah I know but we're trying to be spoiler friendly due to the fact they are making more shows like arcane and those shows may cover this topic

[@toamszkozak8822]

@@KyamaKira but that's not a spoiler ,it's just her name ,also we have no idea when the next show will come out ,do you really think that they will remember this ?

[@terra3426]

the thing about mel being able to shut down salo with that device is because it leaves marks on his body, those would then be evidence to prove that he is a shimmer addict. Also that spot on the ground that heimerdinger sees at the bottom of the hexgates is the blood that viktor coughed up in season 1 act 2 and the hextec interactes with organis matter in weird ways.

[@orionicstar]

That's crazy about the spot. The level of detail in this show is insane.

[@teslafreeman]

It's doubly tragic because he was a party boy meathead before his paralysis, but he only turned to shimmer because it was the only thing in Piltover/Zaun that might restore the function in his legs. It's why he has Lest do the tattoos instead of just drinking it. The shimmer laced into the linework screams Vastayan (Lest's species) healing magic combined with shimmer and chems. It's like radical holistic treatment by ANY means necessary.

[@TheJerbol]

I don't believe the blood part. There's only a small-ish hole directly above the dome-thing, it wouldn't be possible to get where it is. Plus stuff like that shows up all over the hexgate later on by itself

[@terra3426]

The pattern specifically emerges when the hextec and biological matter come into contact f.e. the hexcore of ekkos tree

[@leovk5779]

@@TheJerbol Another theory I heard was, the hexgates are used to teleport flying vehicles... with people (and potentially other living matter like catel, etc) inside, and therefore living matter could have corrupted the hexgates (up to its roots, underground) during the teleportations. Either way it makes sense that at some point the whole hex technology/magic got in contact, and therefore potentially corrupted, with organic matter after a long time frequent use.

[@mimic1984]

Y'know, what I realized on my 3rd time watching this episode?...Jinx was shooting that rocket at Vi pretty freaking close...I know she's been suicidal before, but I genuinely think she was trying to take both Vi and herself here. 💙 ❤️ 💜

[@zamcrowe]

Yep, she still hasn't changed since she tried to kill herself with Ekko

[@MRST0R]

She did say that she wanted to finish what’s left of her family… that includes herself

[@emanuellandrade3387]

jinx made the whole plan for the fight with 3 outcomes in mind: 1 - She kill's Vi and move on with her life 2 - Vi kills her and in the process in broken, mentally, to a point that she is a living corpse 3 - She and Vi die together If you notice the bomb is right above where they are fighting, and when sevika triggers it jinx says that it isn't going how it's supposed to.

[@alisinamobaraki8790]

I mean jinx also screams no when isha tries to shoot vi. I guess she thought vi would not hesitate to remove her but when she hesitated, jinx also regretted her actions against vi. After this she tries to move on and not be jinx anymore

[@leovk5779]

"take out what's left of my family"- that includes Vi, but also her obviously.

[@alexlannister950]

One thing a lot of people missed is that Caitlyn simply could not say "no" to Ambessa offer. People already theorize that the attack in the ceremony was led by a traitor and Caitlyn was seen hanging out with Vi, the sister of a terrorist. If she said "no" it would sound so bad for her, everyone would acuse her of treason and everything. And you can see she is conflict about it until Ambessa mentioned her mother. Caitlyn is basically all alone now, truly easy to manipulate

[@DanGamingFan2406]

Caitlin and Vi had their first kiss and broke up a second time in the same episode. I get why, Cailin nearly shooting a child was a traumatic betrayal for Vi, but it still hurts!😭 It hurts even more seeing Caitlin starting down a dark path.

[@watershipup7101]

Yeah, Amanda sure loves to rip our hearts out.

[@laylahzs]

Out of all the reactors in youtube, your cut is the best one, almost felt like there was none, good job.

[@LettsReact]

Appreciate the love! It takes a bit more time to edit the way we do, but our editor Gabe and I (Kenny) always try to include as much of the episode as possible!

[@laylahzs]

@ That’s nice, i’ll make sure to save some money to subscribe to your patreon, yall deserve it, i love your reactions and you guys actually pay attention to all the details of the story :))

[@hermionegranger6033]

Can I just say how much I love the timers. the "intro", the "conversation" timers, its just so nice for some reason

[@LettsReact]

THANKS I personally would like it if other channels did that, so for ours I always include them!

[@Ayla_Lopez]

Caitlyn was really blinded by revenge the same way jinx was. I think these two characters got a lot of things in common. I’m glad Ambessa chose Cait because Cait’s character is all about justice and trying to do the right thing so I wasn’t worried and knew she will come back around and try to fix the wrongs she did. Cait, Jinx and Mel are for sure my favorite characters in the show

[@avaguavaa]

so on point bout cait wanting a mom so bad 😂 also the way ambessa referred to her as “child” or “little one” she knew our girl had mommy issue

[@lilokay1_6]

If you look close enough when Caitlyn hits vi, she does start to feel remorse! You can see it in her eyes/eyebrows but she quickly turns away and leaves before letting herself feel bad! And she hit vi in the place she’s been stabbed in season one (the knife wound that she gave her gun up to get the shimmer to heal vi). And to make the pain even worse, vi has been in so many fights and never cries, so it’s obviously not the physical hit that mad her sob like that. It’s the fact that it’s Caitlyn doing it. The last person she trusts in her life betraying her that makes her break down :( I love the detail in this show.

[@JanJan0019]

There’s also a deleted scene of Caitlyn walking away crying after that 😫 they should’ve left it in.

[@JNDReacts]

It’s not the same place as the knife wound was. That was on Vi’s right side, this was on her left.

[@leovk5779]

They're very good with subtle emotion on faces in Arcane. Another good example is Ambessa: you can sometimes see a glimpse of fear, that she hides pretty well. When she calls to Cait to take the lead of Piltover, "come child", you can see there is a shadow of a doubt: she is not sure Cait will take the bait and accept, and her plan could collapse.

[@alaynapetty6102]

I’m not sure if you noticed but the poses the characters do in the intro are based on tragedies or historical figures. The medardas sit like Cesar , Cait is Macbeth , victor is phantom of the opera etc

[@leovk5779]

Nice details! I didn't catch that before.

[@alaynapetty6102]

@ I didn’t either I saw someone on tiktok point it out and it blew my mind so I had to share too😊

[@Marta-uv4id]

I have no idea how both of the songs Woodkid made for this show, Guns for Hire back in episode 6 of season 1 and now To Ashes and Blood, manage to be so incredible that they stand out among all of the already amazing songs made for this show. The fact that both of the songs are placed in some of the most important scenes of the show definitely has something to do with it, but Woodkid just does something with his music that makes those scenes hit *that* much harder.

[@mimic1984]

Two of the top 5 songs in this show.

[@HaydrogenBomb]

Oh shoot, it's the same guy?

[@LibbyisMid]

When you hear Woodkid come in on Arcane you know you're about to get some emotional and amazing

[@mimic1984]

@@HaydrogenBomb yep

[@emanuellandrade3387]

@@mimic1984 To ashes and blood is leagues ahead of guns for hire. Guns for hire is a pretty good song, but it is at least a tier bellow the top songs of arcane.

[@TheBestPirateDrake]

When she said that Caitlyn was unredeemable, I remember her first impression of Zuko. I’m looking for her to watch the rest of the series.

[@Otaya_2024]

Wouldn't Jinx also be unredeemable?

[@giladadadada1614]

tbh she was never redeemed enough for me

[@kaylahere6789]

There's just so many themes paralleling off of one another in Arcane. In this show, the character's weapons reflect their personality and thought process. Caitlyn literally being a sniper and tunneling in on her emotions is so reflective of this. In Caitlyn hitting Vi, I would never forget but I can forgive because just in the span of a couple of days, her life has been flipped upside down. Everything with Jinx has been so personal to her. Jinx has tried to kill her mulitide of times, kidnapped her in the shower in a vulnerable state, almost forced Vi to kill her, and now has killed her mom. One can make the argument that the people of Zaun has had it worse, which is true. But the whole theme of Arcane is stopping this cycle of violence and using that reasoning to keep on adding to the violence is contradicting. I can't express how much I love this show and I'm excited to see the next couple of reactions, especially on episode 6!

[@suzanneneilsen1680]

Speaking about the prefrontal cortex, it's not fully developed until age 26. And how old is Caitlyn, just sayin. Caitlyn grew up up privileged and sheltered. Her life has been trauma free. So she never developed any tools to deal with it. And then in a short period of time, Jinx nearly kills her several times. And because she didn't take the shot, her mom died along with other councilors, in a city she swore to protect. Caitlyn blames herself and her arrogance for her mom dying. Caitlyn obsesses over taking the shot, so she can absolve herself over her self blame and self hatred. And Vi(I think rightly) stopped her from taking the shot. But Caitlyn is in a volatile state (nearly killed by Sevika and glitching hextech). And when Caitlyn goes to exit, Vi comes over and physically restrains her. So while Caitlyn shouldn't hit Vi, it's understandable. While Caitlyn is a guarded person, if you advance frame by frame, you do see regret. But this is Arcane, so it's going to be a dark, bumpy ride. And they do send Caitlyn through the crucible this season. Hopefully she will emerge, still Caitlyn but tempered.

[@JNDReacts]

Caitlyn is at most 23. In season 1 act 1 she was between 14-16 (I lean towards 14 because they had a younger voice actor for her, whereas Vi’s was Hailee even as a teenager) and then about 7 years passed by season 1 act 2.

[@9iscomplete]

The lack of empathy for Caitlyn is a bit unfair. I feel like there wasn't much taking into consideration everything she went through literally a week before (in story time), almost all of it at the hands of Jinx. And the end result of her trying to do what she thought was right was the loss of her mother. There's guilt, revenge, rage, grief, trauma, betrayal (unintentionally by Vi) that she's grappling with. On top of that the insane amount of responsibility as the matriarch that's pushed onto her, being asked by Vi to stop a full on invasion so she takes matters into her own hands. So she's got the Kiramman house to run and Piltover to take care of (heavy is the crown ep 1). At the age of 23?? That's not even when your prefrontal cortex is supposedly developed as you mentioned. It's a bit much to call her a straight up monster, no?

[@Otaya_2024]

Also, logically speaking, the risk is better to take than to lose the chance to win. Jinx is too dangerous. And it's not as if Cait didn't try the peaceful options before, they didn't work.

[@benmoore8809]

The colored gas that Jinx sends to topside is a mixture of wind from the temple where they fought, the grey, and Jinx's special touch of color. Jinx had rigged the vents so that the wind would push the grey to the surface and then you saw she had set up a device that would release the colored gas when the wind passed over it.

[@jonathanrobinson198]

Did Caitlyn miss her shots? She shot the hand that was striking Vi and then shot the gun that was pointed at Vi. If anything, the one thing we’ve seen her never screw up is shooting under pressure.

[@JNDReacts]

For me it wasn’t her stumbling that had me concerned, because we did immediately see her make two perfect shots after that. The reason I’m with Vi on this is because the kid was moving around and squirming so much that one wrong move at the moment Caitlyn pulls the trigger and Isha’s dead.

[@jonathanrobinson198]

@ That’s true, but we’ve also seen Caitlyn shoot the bolts off a charging enemy so it’s just my personal feeling that she wouldn’t cause the show gives us many examples of her making the craziest shots.😅

[@wtimmins]

It looked a LOT to me like Caitlyn would have shot Jinx in the head, and the bullet would continue into Isha's head. Isha was WRAPPED around Jinx, and those bullets were shown to have immense penetration.

[@popeyeschicken3535]

She shot Jinx’ hand when she was trying to kill her, so yes that’s a miss. “If you see the shot, take it” she hit something but it wasn’t her intended target.

[@derekmarshman6154]

Also, she didn't shoot VI's hand on purpose. She was trying to shoot Jinx past Vi's hand AND Isha's body. It's an irresponsible shot, and she was lucky to hit the armored gauntlet.

[@kyj6283]

What Cait did wasn't ok, at all. Good things to remember though: she had just been kidnapped, assaulted, and held at gunpoint by Jinx. Jinx also murdered her mother and attacked her people, AND she just had to deal with the *memorial* of her mother death be used as a target for terrorism. She was in the wrong, as she was for using the Gray on Zaun. But she's also not in her right mind and is spiraling in rage and pain. She definitely needs to atone and do better, but her circumstances weren't necessarily common either.

[@laurynasv7976]

Also, before the fight Vi told her to take the shot if she has an opening. But now she wants to spear her life because of one child? Back then when she was invading shimmer factories she wasnt even slightly phased by Jayce killing a child. She said "they knew what they were signing up for". Caitlyn didn't want to let Jinx escape again (when she has an opening to shoot her but once again Vi stops her) which could result in Jinx killing innocent people and the people that Caitlyn loves and cares for (she has been blaming herself for her mothers death for not shooting Jinx at the S1 finale).

[@lovequinn7521]

It astounds me how many of them were able to find excuses for Jinx’s indiscriminate mass murder sprees but went straight to hating Cait the moment she tripped bc Jinx just dragged her through the mud of layers and layers of trauma after being sheltered her entire life. And how they completely ignored that Cait, in the thick of her grief including heartbreak, is about to be exploited by Ambessa.

[@Benedikt_K]

And Vi just likened her to the murderer of her mother

[@Frost7486]

I get the unease at the phrase "it's her blood in your veins", but i don't think Caitlyn meant it as, "your blood is worse" or "tainted", or something like that, to me it was her saying that they share blood, like family, and she would never be able to choose Caitlyn over Jinx, even after everything. Which may or not be true, and everyone has its own reasons for everything that's happened so far and everything that's yet to happen, but... yeah, Vi was never going to be able to go through with this mission of "eliminating" Jinx. Anyway! Enjoying your reactions as usual, and looking forward to the next one ^^

[@TheGoodWitchDiya]

But if sort of was if you consider the line before that. She says, “I keep telling myself that you’re different, you’re not.” Which along with the other line heavily implies that Vi is “different” from other Zaunites or people from the under city and that she’s not because she continues to try and save under city people (Jinx, Isha, etc.). I do like Caitlyn but it’s still very rude considering that she also called the undercity people animals in episode 1 so she’s definitely dehumanizing them and seeing them as lesser than.

[@Caitkiraa]

It probably doesnt help that youve not rewatched season one, Caitlyn was the hope, the all around KINDHEARTED one, she was incredibly kind to vi and fought for the undercitys independence. She has gone through horrible things, is grieving and has no doubtly done horrible things. In no way am i defending her actions but remember who she is at her core!!!! Like we remember who jinx is at her core, we remember powder, but jinx is also a terrorist, yet we dont call her a monster!

[@ariesdork5283]

I think there is another layer of separation between Caitlyn and Jinx of just classism being the reason that majority (including myself) are more sympathetic towards Jinx.

[@alexlannister950]

Its annoying how everyone is sympathetic with everyone but Caitlyn. And some even act like Caitlyn go radical for no reason. To understand her character arc this season you need to rewatch s1 fr

[@OrdinaryCritic]

@@alexlannister950 that's what I like about great storytelling. It exposes people by which side the choose to view grey characters.

[@alexlannister950]

​@@OrdinaryCritic and we can also see their bias. When they love one character for doing one thing, and criticize another for doing the exact same thing and even with similar motivations behind it

[@Otaya_2024]

​@@ariesdork5283 I'm on the logical side, Caitlyng isn't god and if some of ya'll want her to be "better", then give better plans because Cait took the best course of action. Right now, honestly, she didn't make a mistake (Asides from not taking the shot in S1, it would f up her relationship, but better than the explosion)

[@JNDReacts]

51:14 Ok, technically Caitlyn’s prefrontal cortex isn’t fully developed either. I think at most she’s like 23 here. Yes, much more developed than when Vi hit Powder, but still not fully developed.

[@Teib_21]

I see how Caitlyn is at fault in that interaction and how Vi was right in stopping her however, I do not agree that what she did was unredeemable, her hitting VI was not domestic abuse or something like that, it was out of anger and rage. Caitlyn was on a revenge mindset in which she was trying to justify being with Vi as well, trying to see that they are different. That action of Vi stopping her, confirmed for Caitlyn that Vi is a Zaunite and is no different from Jinx in her eyes. This may not be correct, but to Caitlyn, this is what she sees.

[@aranthur]

It's interesting that Vi has grown up knowing grief and rage and hate since she was like 8 years old. We saw it in the opening scene of the series. But because of her upbringing, this is Cait's first experience with any of those in her entire life. She doesn't know how to handle it, doesn't know how to talk about it, doesn't know how to control it in those final moments And she doesn't have years of growing up with a man like Vander to teach her the lessons Vi got about control and responsibility. She has a few days of mourning, then she has a life-or-death military operation she's in charge of, and then she has Ambessa Caitlyn makes a lot of bad choices, but the fact that she isn't 100 times worse in these circumstances speaks very highly of her character, imo

[@aranthur]

You talked a bit about Vi hitting Jinx in season 1. But let's not forget, Jinx also knocked her sister and her father unconscious and kidnapped them, and before that she stabbed Silco in the face with a needle multiple times just for lying to her. Ekko did nothing while Vi bled out from her stab wound, then when she miraculously survived thanks to Caitlyn, he also had her knocked unconscious and kidnapped. Vander tried to murder his own brother in a fit of rage. And the list gets even longer if we start getting into season 2 spoilers If Caitlyn hitting Vi is a hard line her character can never come back from, can never be redeemed no matter what she does from now on, then so are all the rest of those. Let's be consistent, shall we?

[@Song_of_hers]

I agree with your sentiment, but I think the reason why it's such a big deal is because Caitlyn and Vi are in a romantic relationship, which makes this act of violence domestic abuse. I still don't think this makes her unredeemable but I definitely think it's a more complex issue than the others.

[@r3vora]

some of your examples really make no sense 😭

[@withxoutxlife]

@Song_of_hers Which is what makes the show so good. All these shades of gray for our main cast, and even if you don't agree with or excuse their actions, you can generally understand where they are coming from if you take some time to think about the reasons why a character would do what they do.

[@aranthur]

@Song_of_hers Can I ask how? If a family member or a friend abuses you, do you think that's somehow more acceptable than a lover? That you SHOULDN'T cut them out of your life?

[@JoaoLopes-vw7tr]

Like Caitlyn or not, "unredeemable" is a stretch. If Jinx can seek redemption so can Caitlyn.

[@connorh4391]

That life is strange music with the “these actions will have consequences” just heals something in me lol.

[@Nick_silv22]

About the „never hitting a loved one“ comparison. Caitlin is an adult who got mad that vi didn’t wanna risk her killing a child. Vi was a child who just lost her father and both best friends with in a few minutes and finding out that the person responsible for that was told by you not to show up. And just saying that as a younger sibling, i would have taken that smack to the face without complaint.💀

[@HaydrogenBomb]

Forreal. NOT the same thing.

[@suzanneneilsen1680]

While Vi motivation was risk to the child. Caitlyn (fresh off a deadly combat situation) was angry about not taking the shot. She had self blame and self hatred over not taking it before. In Caitlyn's mind, the only way to make things right, was to take the shot. She had to take the shot. And Vi stopped her, again. So much drama could be avoided, if she would go see a therapist. And as the youngest sibling, I know I would complain. Unless you're in contact sports(and yeah, life threatening situations) don't hit people. I get that in kittens, puppies and humans, there's a lot of play fighting. But people need to learn violence is not good for relationships. It's like "killing is a cycle"

[@JanJan0019]

That was not the reason Cait hit her. You see how she was just gonna walk away upset about Vi stopping her, she hits her when Vi holds her back and compares her to the woman that killed her Mother.

[@mondude89]

Ok I think theyre little out of pocket with calling cait a monster or irredeemable lmao. Does no one remember when jayce accidently killed a kid and vi was ok with it?

[@Jess-uo2xn]

Literally and Jinx kidnapped Caityln when she was in the shower- at her most vulnerable and blew up her mother??

[@laurynasv7976]

Vi was very wishy washy. Before the fight she said "take the shot whenever you have an opening" and when Caitlyn finally got an opening (throughout the whole show we saw how perfect her aim is and that she always hits her bullets where she wants them to hit(even in the 5th episode after Vi lost to Sevika Caitlyn was aiming at Sevika's roboarm and hit every shot precisely even when Sevika was runnning) Vi stopped her because of Isha (but in reality I think the child she was actually referring to was Jinx because she saw that Powder still exists when Isha got involved). At the end when Caitlyn hit her in the stomach she knew that Vi is her soft spot and that she makes her weaker (Vi stopped Caitlyn from shooting Jinx twice. Caitlyn knows how much of a dangerous person Jinx is and how many innocent lives she can take if she is not in prison or dead. That's why Cait is angry because what if Jinx kills another person that she loves and cares for and all because Vi stopped her again when she had a clear shot and could've ended it all) and at that moment she was still in her anger/rage prime so she was still lusting for revenge and "justice". Honestly this scene alone makes me want to talk for ages because of how good the writing is, every detail is important to every character's development and their actions.

[@Marta-uv4id]

Ambessa is so threatening and terrifying because she's such a strategic genius. She was able to basically take control of Piltover through tactics, manipulation and observation of the environment and people around her. She orchestrated an attack on Piltover to not only push things further to a boiling point, but also to get to *Caitlyn* specifically. That attack at the memorial is what pushed Caitlyn further on the path of revenge, and all Ambessa had to do after that point was wait for the perfect moment to take hold of Caitlyn herself. Suddenly springing the position of general to her in the middle of a meeting with the most powerful families of Piltover, calling her a child, and mentioning her mother after seeing the conflict on Caitlyn's face is just brilliant of her.

[@Staicha]

But didnt she want to secure the best scientists? Why would she sacrifice Jayce?

[@elheber]

2:35 I thought it looked like one of the ventilation shafts that Jinx used for her hideout... and then I saw it: That's Jinx to the right. Jinx lives in the Kiramman tunnels. Cait and Jinx are more connected than either of them realize.

[@frost9681]

The "Absolute Cinema" edit was really funny

[@lovequinn7521]

To Cait, this is the redemption of the shot she didn’t take which lead to Jinx firing a bomb to the council that killed her mother. The shot she didn’t take bc of Vi and she felt responsible for the death it caused. Jinx bombs people just because. Let’s not forget this before calling Cait a monster.

[@oforth]

*Dan will remember this comment.

[@Flarree_]

The music playing when Ambessa calls for Caitlyn to be appointed general is her theme song from the game, but composed differently to sound distorted and corrupted

[@yermatedave4930]

15:35 I think rather Lest meant that Mel can handle Salo by publicising his use of the Zaunite drug Shimmer if he tries to sieze power

[@serrano333]

to clarify, smeech didn't make shimmer, he was an addict and a distributor/ chem baron. Singed made shimmer

[@jonathanrobinson198]

I think it’s a bit of a disservice to not mention from Caitlyn’s perspective, Vi made her disband the task force, and multiple times reassured her she was good to help stop Jinx after murdering her mother; just to end up being the reason Jinx escapes. Cait has been very forward about wanting her dead and feeling guilty for not stopping her so to her, this is a betrayal. This is the second time Vi’s insistence to not shoot Jinx caused a terrorist attack. I’m not saying Cait was right to hit her, but the anger is.

[@popeyeschicken3535]

It was more so because the child was in line with Jinx’ head so she didn’t want Cait to shoot and kill both of them. Which is fair. I get why Cait is upset at that point tho and I understand why this happened.

[@SisDaKidProduction]

Yeah they went over that, s2 caitlyn is hated by the whole fandom but I do think that people literacy lack nuance... Arcane is not black and white...

[@derekmarshman6154]

That wasn't a" terrorist attack". Jinx simply rerouted the chemical weapon Cait was using against the undercity back up to topside.

[@echo_thebatdragon6943]

I can understand where her anger is coming from, but you do have to remember that Jinx didn't specifically target her mother. It was an attack on the elitists of Topside/the council, and arguably a reaction to the years of willful ignorance and negligence they've shown to the Undercity (I'm not saying it was right for Jinx to attack them, but the anger is). Yes, Caitlyn's perspective is important, of course it is. But her emotions are completely clouding her judgement here. Vi was absolutely right to stop her, and had the roles been flipped, had the Undercity sent a "task force" of their own to weaponize the Grey against Topside, it would've been seen as "going too far" and "destroying the lives of innocent civilians" and "you can't do that, that's a war crime." Cait's taskforce was using the Grey, which can quickly destroy everybody and anybody's health if they come into contact with it unprotected. Sure, you can call Jinx using it a "terrorist attack," but even then, it would still be the same "terrorist attack" that Caitlyn was using against the undercity. So regardless it's still messed up to blame Jinx for something that Cait isn't being blamed for. Why is it so bad for the grey to be used in Topside, when the undercity has been subjected to it, not just by Caitlyn, but also for the entirety of Topside's industrialism (even with the ventilation system in place, the air quality was still terrible). Cait's perspective shouldn't be ignored, in her eyes it justified her actions at the time, but at the end of the day, she was still in the wrong for what she did. I haven't seen any extra hate towards Cait that hasn't been equally given to both the people who hate her (and vice versa) and the other characters themselves either.

[@jonathanrobinson198]

@ Since we’re talking about perspective and intent, the difference is Jinx trying to harm anyone and everyone Topside; doesn’t matter who gets caught in the crossfire. Cait is using The Grey as a smokescreen to raid drug hideouts, take down Chem Barron goons, and not cause a scene by letting people know it’s a task force. She isn’t flooding the under city with it and hitting indiscriminately even though she easily could by leaving the valves open. Vi is in the right to try to talk down Cait when she’s emotional but in the context of everything that’s happened it doesn’t come off as her driving motion for standing in front of Caitlyn. Vi just personally isn’t down with it and decided this was the line she wouldn’t cross. It would look extra bad on her in Cait’s eyes because Caitlyn preformed perfectly fine while loosing her cool multiple times. Her gun is the one thing she never screws up with. For her, what pisses her off is when she let her heart sway to other’s choices, it blows up in her face but the one person she actively didn’t listen to got killed by her actions. Once again, I’m not saying she’s in the right, but there’s a level of maliciousness and recklessness some people add to Caitlyn that goes against what the show has demonstrated in regards to skill, intellect, and compassion. I think one of the biggest examples of this is her dialogue with Vi about how she wouldn’t missed, letting people know that even in that moment, Caitlyn had no intent of shooting through Isha to get to Jinx even though that would’ve been easier. It would be so simple to make her actively not care about everyone in Zaun and double down on the “animals” comment but they’ve made it a point to have all her moves so far deliberately against the organized crime.

[@Caitkiraa]

Caitlyn felt bad, she was disassociating the whole of her "becoming a dictator" and there was a look of deep regret when she looks down at Vi.

[@bsommervold]

Does it matter that you feel bad if you hit someone and leave them without apologizing at the bare minimum?

[@alexlannister950]

​@@bsommervold it does bc is better than not feeling regret at all. Plus it adds to what's gonna happen later in the season

[@bsommervold]

@@alexlannister950just because you understand why someone does something does not justify it. Yes Caitlyn is human but she chose in her anger to dehumanize Vi and hit her. That’s a shitty thing to do.

[@alexlannister950]

​@@bsommervold I agree. I just answered your previous question.

[@ThelordHayden34]

Feelings and intentions mean nothing when your actions still hurt.

[@FrostyTheSnowPickle]

Even if Cait wasn't shaky, even if she hit her target perfectly...that bullet blasted through metal like it was nothing. It left a baseball-sized hole in the standee she shot before. And the child's head was on the other side of Jinx's. So even if Cait made the shot perfectly, the bullet would just blast through Jinx's head and also kill the child. And even if it didn't, best case scenario, a child sees her mother figure's head explode in front of her.

[@Marta-uv4id]

While both Jinx and Vi definitely aimed to hurt each other in the fight, I don't believe either of them would have killed each other if it came down to it. With Jinx it may be more obvious considering she couldn't bring herself to shoot Vi last episode, but with Vi, I think her actions and words this episode are more to convince herself that she'd be able to kill Jinx and that she isn't her sister, rather than actual conviction. Comparing her brutality while fighting the Chemtank soldiers in episode 8 of season 1 and her fighting Jinx is like day and night, and it becomes obvious she isn't truly aiming to kill Jinx. And when Isha protects Jinx, it almost seems like Vi pounces on the opportunity to save her sister, because she could have pried Isha away from Jinx and let Caitlyn get to her that way, but she didn't. Vi herself probably saw it as saving Isha's life, or at the very least sparing her the trauma of having to watch Jinx get shot right in front of her, but I think a part of her was glad she didn't have to kill her sister.

[@coldfury2652]

Well vi was definitely going to end it before the kid came in but during that fight they were both definitely jinx and vi having inner conflict

[@JNDReacts]

I’m pretty sure Jinx was. With how close she was standing when she attempted to bomb Vi, that shot would’ve taken both of them out.

[@cluster_f1575]

@@JNDReacts Agreed. People who say Jinx never intended to kill Vi seem to forget she fired a rocket at her.

[@D34doneTTV]

The discussion you guys have about the parallels of Vi and Caitlyn vs Vi and Powder when hitting each other were so spot on, it's something I didn't notice on my watch through actually. Personally I was confused because Vi and Cait finally get a break in the fight, and Vi's instinct to protect the kid is strong but she doesnt just... remove the kid? It's a kid, pick them up! Haha, that kid is my biggest gripe with season 2, never been a huge fan of that trope in shows where a random kid inserted starts making huge and AVOIDABLE changes in actions. If Jinx wants a family, Vi tried SO many times. Why does a kid, who she seems kind of annoyed with at first, suddenly make the push? Vi doesnt want the kid dead, but still wants the mission done? IDK you're Vi, literally the strong fighter character capable of winning fights against guys much larger, want to use your fists/hands for things, pick the kid up. Hell stay on top of Jinx to keep her pinned. That whole sequence was just so frustrating to me (Oh also in response to one of the patreon questions, I dont think Cait was 1 for 3?, Shot Jinx reflection dead on, shot Jinx in the hand as the only part that was clear away from VI, Shot the gun out of the kids hand, then shot right where Jinx would have been but Vi was blocking, is how I interpreted that at least)

[@KyamaKira]

7:56 Kenny and his feet he always be noticing dem feet huh 😭

[@miccarl1208]

😂😂

[@USful]

Fun little tidbit at 14:00, both Lest and their voice actor are a transwomen.

[@sanjalok4743]

Some of the best Arcane reactions and thoughtful, nuanced takes. 👏 Thanks

[@withxoutxlife]

15:28 The device would have shut Salo down, because it's proof that he's been drugging himself on shimmer, which mean's he's unreliable in a leadership position. If he tried to seize control of Piltover, Mel could simply show evidence that Salo himself has been consuming a very dangerous substance, one that was responsible for many deaths already, and that the city is actively trying to shut down the production of. Its an additional reason as to why Ambessa was willing to switch manipulation targets from him to Cait, and try to put *her* in a position of command instead.

[@MichaelaEvans]

Ok now we're comparing Caitlyn to a domestic abuser?! Thats a little much 😐. Just like other commenters said, " put yourself in her shoes!"

[@dugarcez]

omg the famous episode where we got the marriage and the divorce all together ;)

[@CrimsonCharan]

In terms of feels, Jinx vs Vi was just Zuko vs Azula on steroids.

[@HaydrogenBomb]

Not really, as Zuko and Azula NEVER had the good relationship Vi and Powder did. Still tragic, but not in the same way.

[@N1ghtW0lfEcho]

New Cait look, WELCOME COUNT FAGULA!!

[@daurydavis3983]

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[@N1ghtW0lfEcho]

@ nickname the community has for her in that outfit

[@CyborgSeiber]

I have always loved the music near the end when Caitlyn gets her promotion. It’s so epic and haunting.

[@millieboon]

20:21 , I mean jinx’s has shot at her multiple times already remember in s1 on the bridge if that hit them they would be dead, she knocked them out , kidnapped them , made vi face the man that destroyed her second chance of a family, caused stress then she implied she killed Cait and killed caits mum , jinx has done way worse thing over misunderstandings if she was patient and just listened then non of this would of happened

[@kylesmith564]

32:41 The worst part of this is... if Cait missed Jinxes head, Isha and Jinx wouldve been safe, but Isha hugged past Jinxes head in that scene, out of sight from Caitlyn. Meaning from Caits perspective... Vi did protect Jinx for seemingly no reason.

[@natalikarim3687]

Nuurrrr, I’m not validating the fact that Caitlyn did what she did but she did show remorse at the very end of that close-up scene of her ://, and she didn't believe she would kill the kid her mind was clouded by revenge and she didn’t acknowledge that she wasn’t in the best shape to make a accurate shot, ! That’s just how I se it. Love your content guys❤❤❤😂

[@toamszkozak8822]

22:10 so fun fact but that wispy wind woman is actyally real ,she is called Janna and is a wind godess and also a playable champion that you can play in league

[@wishmaster82]

Caitlyn was gonna shoot jinx, she's an excellent shot, she wouldn't have missed.

[@elinatural2058]

i mean not to defend caitlyn because of course what she is doing is wrong and is framed as such by the show, but her sayng "it's her blood in your vein" is not her reducing Vi to "just another trencher", it's her saying basically "you promised that you were with me on that but in the end you couldn't do it because she is your sister", which is still fucked up but at least not as bad i guess ahah

[@softly3359]

Honestly the ending of episode 3 really hammered home to me how little Piltover considers Zaun because since Piltover has like natural ventilation in the way of not being underground, the grey didn't even stick around. It's bad for the body obviously but they very easily could have built filtration that leads topside away from residential spaces. I know why they wouldn't, it's very obvious why they wouldn't but still. The only thing that stuck around from Jinx blowing the grey back up topside was the dye she added and the irritation that the undercity had already been dealing with, more so because the task force has been using it on civilians. The only difference there was that the gas meandered due to poor ventilation in the fissures

[@sofie8679]

46:17 I think Jinx yelling to the kid "get off me" can indeed be seen as a small act of affection/protection, she knows Caitlyn has the gun locked on them, and while Jinx doesn't know this kid, she doesn't need more people dead because of her. However, that does not mean that Jinx wanting the kid off is exclusivly an act of protection or resistance, it is both.

[@UncleMilo]

They were talking about exposing Salo as using Shimmer.... a member of the Council making use of such drugs.

[@SeanBoyce-gp]

32:00 - Such a good point here. The "Dehumanization." And I'll be straight up with you, my personal viewpoint of this is that it's worse than that. Peep the positioning of Jinx when Cait takes her finger off (27:23 in the video time code). Vi is down low in front of Jinx. Jinx's hand is on the same plane, vertically, as her face. And it's a smaller target. There's two ways to read this. A.) Caitlyn *is* wobbly and so shooting *would* risk the kid's life. B.) Caitlyn *isn't* wobbly, and she pulled the kill shot on purpose. Why would she do that? Why does she hesitate on taking the shot when Vi has Jinx pinned? Why does she not just finish it as soon as she gets an opportunity each time, if she's that sure? I think, on some level, Cait wants the same thing Jinx wanted at the end of S1 ("Then why are you the one acting like her?") Jinx insisted that Vi make an impossible choice between them. Jinx wanted Vi to prove that she would pick her over Caitlyn, forever. Cait wants the same thing here. She gives Vi the badge as a way of proving she's different. And in this scene, when it comes to it, when Caitlyn could've taken the kill shot, she doesn't. She disarms Jinx instead. On some level, she wants Vi to do it to, maybe to prove her love, maybe to prove she's different, maybe just to make up for costing Cait her mother. It's not a rational thing, it's not something she planned. But boy howdy does it seem convenient to me that she loaded high-precision, high-penetration rounds and then attempts to disarm Jinx instead of take her out in that moment. It's also another way to read Caitlyn's initial objection to Vi saying "Take the shot" - she doesn't really want to. A third reading is that she doesn't believe Vi would ever forgive her and she doesn't want to lose Vi's love for her revenge (she's willing to lose Vi's trust and intimacy, but not her love). Still pretty dark. Either way, she's wrong. In the benign version, she hits the finger because her gun is freaking out and she's not steady on her feet, which means she can't trust the next shot she takes under these conditions. In the malign version, she hits the finger despite the fact that her gun is freaking out and she's unsteady on her feet, which means she can trust the next shot she takes under these conditions and she could have finished it without forcing Vi to go through confronting murdering her sister.

[@CrazeeAdam]

Lol Montana being absolutely assaulted by all your pets so sweet and cute ❤

[@erick48104]

26:25 "What are you going to do Jinx?" If you watch the fight slower Jinx was actually winning against Vi, she had a good amount of solid hits to Vi's head, front and back, and also a kick to the back of her knee. Jinx was really exhausting Vi before Caitlyn shot her finger 😭

[@UncleMilo]

Amara was in Season 1 - the first merchant Mel got Jayce to make deals with.

[@rromano158]

15:33, My guess is that she could show Salo is using shimmer and discredit him as a council member.

[@defiantsnow6055]

How can you say there is no active powder present when the intelligence and gadgets were with her since she was a kid and she still actively uses that.

[@The-Nexus-of-Creation]

Caitlyn Is like the Anakin of Arcane And i guess Ambessa is Palpatine

[@dlweiss]

15:05 to answer your question: that vial was the same substance that Lest was painting all over Salo's body before Ambessa barged in. And Shimmer is still considered an illegal "undercity substance/drug" by Piltover, so a councilmember having Shimmer in his system and on his body would be a big enough scandal to get him removed from the Council.

[@spinningredchair8092]

That "Wispy Wind Woman" is Janna! Shes a wind spirit and looks after the people of Zaun who are in unfortunate times. Vander probably told Vi and Jinx about some of her folktales when they were kids. The "Chanting" in the back of the song is actually a prayer to Janna, spoken in the native tongue of the civilization of Shurima. It no longer exists, as it was destroyed and its people we're displaced, but many of them immigrated to Zaun, hence why the song is in their language. The prayer translates roughly to this "Beyond our walls the storm's fury grows. Over the land and sea, the storms fury grows. But I have nothing to fear. For the Blue Bird is with me!" The Blue Bird refers to Janna, as her legend started on the seas. Before intense storms or unforgiving winds, Sailors would report seeing a Blue Bird flying in the direction of the storm. Some reports even say they saw the bird transform into a woman with long silver hair, and a staff twice her body length, who could will the wind to flow in any direction she chose with just a flick of her wrist. The optimistic sailors chose not to see the bird as a bad omen, but as a helpful warning, and thus those who worship Janna (who really isn't a God btw) wear a pendant featuring a diving blue bird.

[@battlebugplays]

"what are you doing you freak" was so valid lmao.

[@ruchagoddessofpurgatory8513]

The dude tied up upside down at the start mentioned Jinx had a plan involving the ventilation tunnels. That plan was to turn The Gray back and flood Piltover with it like "How do YOU like it?". If you rewatch you see its signature green color before it mixes with Jinx's paint, with different colors for each of the upwards vents. When Jinx was saying "it wasn't supposed to go like this" I believe she intended Sevika to start the explosion after Vi killed her, so she could get an explosive and colorful send-off death while cursing (Jinxing) all of Piltover.

[@kiwitoonz9199]

I really don’t think Jayce was being rude to Ekko, he’s literally exhausted and trying to understand why they’re there. (Lest is a trans women btw)

[@MichaelaEvans]

Same. I don't know what they were talking about when they said he was being rude 🙄. My boy Jayce just lost his bestie and probably hasn't seen/talked to Mel in a long time. 🥲

[@nerdmuma]

Has anyone made the connection that the Grey is what silco used in season 1 to control his Council?

[@UncleMilo]

They showed you that Jinx had paint bombs set up to color "the grey" different colors in a very Jinx manner.

[@DigiCount]

*Caitlyn hits Vi* Discussion Break: 3 minutes 22 seconds Lol I love it, I knew you guys would have to say something about all of that

[@vahnvonhenheim8939]

dont know why but ur reactions are always a comfort :3

[@daurydavis3983]

3:16 it amazes me how commenters still don't realize that

[@faanvugeincynicalassassin]

It's when people are oblivious and/or don't care.

[@anothertorturedpoet]

jinx sent the gray back to where it came from (topside) she just added her own flair to it thats why its colourful

[@Samgreen90]

(At 28:08) That's because she lost her voice a long time ago. That or she's too traumatized to speak.

[@aceofspade2120]

I just thought a out something. Season 1's title fits the actions of this episode also. "The Base Violence Necessary for Change" Caitlyn, Jinx, Vi, Jayce, Ambessa. Piltover and Zaun.

[@rageingmang]

the parallel between cait hitting vi and walking away and vi hitting powder in S1E3 and walking away leaving one of this sisters crying is to perfect

[@The5armdamput33]

29:30 Jinx added color to the gasses she pumped into Piltover...

[@shalimj]

Bro I get to relive these scenes vicariously, hell yeah

[@laurencescott7304]

You'll always hurt and be hurt by the ones you love, you just have to decide who is worth suffering for.

[@gregchezick7757]

I think that the ONE thing with Cait hitting Vi is that it is unclear if Cait actually meant to hit Vi. Vi is the one who initiates the contact and is alot physically stronger than Cait, pulling your arm away after someone who you are having a verbal argument grabs you is a totally valid response and the gun hitting Vi may be incidental contact. Cait not having any remorse is also a touchy subject. All I am saying is this isn't so cut and dry.

[@flingkong24]

36:13 I made a joke about this when the episode came out about this being a domain expansion.

[@jmichikojee9059]

the shimmer that mel was given from lest was to expose sallo for being a hypocrite using shimmer

[@sothanatoasted]

Her body is literally infused with Shimmer. You saw how resilient the shimmer made Vander and Declan last season. And that was dosing. Jinx's is much more potent.

[@valemancy1184]

"It's HER blood in your veins" she's not dehumanizing her. She's saying she's going to side with Jinx, no matter what Jinx does

[@vilka_draw7147]

To the question two where montana sayed you don't hit loved ones and then defended Vi, I am compleatly on her side and to add a little more arguement to her side. Vi was a child for stsrters. Powder murdered her whole family. And serioustly who hasn't fought their siblings.

[@LettsReact]

Montana says all of this in the discussion section :)

[@laurynasv7976]

47:10 But Caitlyn didn't miss any of her shots. First shot precisely hit Jinx's head of the reflection. Second shot she wasn't even aiming to lethally kill Jinx, she shot her finger off which resulted to put Jinx in a shock state and Vi to take control of the fight, pin her down to the ground with her gauntlets. With the third shot she hit Isha's gun to disarm Isha. And the fourth shot Caitlyn was aiming for Jinx's head but while Vi was approaching Caitlyn she had her arms stretched out to cover Jinx and that resulted in Caitlyn shooting Vi's gauntlet (if it wasnt for Vi's gauntlet Caitlyn wouldve directly headshotted Jinx).

[@coldfury2652]

No second shot she was going for her head she missed she was not aiming for her finger

[@We-are-god]

Im pretty sure that stuff was the grey just mixed with something to change the color. You can see in the scene as it was being sucked up some blue powder or something got mixed in with it which changed the color

[@一二0]

Yeah

[@MichaelaEvans]

Im predicting they're gonna say Vi's unforgivable or whatever when she hits a certain someone 👀

[@CJDM310]

30:24 it's the Grey mixed with paint to give it the Jinx touch.

[@CrimsonCharan]

I'm assuming it nullified the poison gas to some extent, cause otherwise those people are dead.

[@nicolasreveck7701]

25:39 IT IS A FKIN JOJO REFERENCE 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@HaydrogenBomb]

I love when we get champions from the game fighting in this show. Bot only are the fight scenes amazing, but it gives you that feeling: "Oh yeah, THIS is League of Legends."

[@darkanice7]

cait was not down shots... she did hit the reflection directly in the head she did hit the finger - and DID aim for the finger she did hit the gun, and wanted to disarm isha Vi did hurt Cait a lot directly bevor the hit - by comparing he to the monster that she sees in jinx, Cait did want to hurt her back...

[@chips9355]

Caitlyn has no reason to aim specifically for Jinx’s finger, especially one as unnecessary as the middle one. And even if she did for some unknown reason want to get rid of just Jinx’s middle finger, all circumstances pointed to taking the shot being a BAD idea. 1. Weapons glitching out 2. Tired and wobbly Caitlyn who clearly isnt thinking well (case in point shooting at a random target to take out anger in the hideout) 3. A child that would be likely killed if she shot

[@JNDReacts]

@@chips9355 I think she was aiming for Jinx’s hand because it was the easiest spot she could hit while Jinx was fighting Vi.

[@josephmorton6166]

I just love it when Montana praises lesbian romances.👭🏳️‍🌈

[@nickthompson6390]

Jinx was ready to go again in this one. I think she was trying to get Vi to take her out and set up what would've been a big enough threat to Piltover that Vi wouldn't fell guilty about doing it.