Level 1 Vs. MAX Level 100 ENGINEER Paragon! (Bloons TD 6)

Level 1 Vs. MAX Level 100 ENGINEER Paragon! BTD6 / Bloons TD 6 - here's how the engi paragon stacks up on logs hard mode solo! Also featuring some more specific stats that are very important in maximizing this paragon's potential...
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[@BTDIsab]

For an essentially all damage paragon and for its price, I think we would hope it lasts a little bit longer... Check out my initial coverage of the paragon if you missed it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqqvqo2Qqq2hgrM

[@Muggin_muffin]

Ball

[@archiemetherell]

5-2-3 paragon moment

[@philly_jv8191]

❤️isab

[@Orangedragon-pl2rp]

Hi ISAB

[@boi2472]

ISAB comments 7 hours before his video is released, good on him but wtf

[@Boredwarrior747]

For dartling paragon, they need to add a bloon trap to even it out

[@TankieBoi]

lol

[@v4rtex518]

For supermonkey paragon, they need to add an overclock that applies to other towers to even out

[@pawshmel]

a trap that spawns every 60sec and it can suc 1 moab of any type

[@ngbg9608]

LMFAO Nope that's all

[@Vergildagoat]

Balance*

[@juicetin8337]

Its funny how the engineer paragon incorporates more dartling gunner paths than engineer paths

[@Jornker]

Overclock and pin exist too

[@nicknack5388]

@@Jornker this is meant to be a 5-5-5 not a 5-5ish-2

[@Abdxllah.07]

Watch the dartling paragon have a beeeg trap

[@theblueberrypi6152]

@Kogasa Tatara

[@vikavolt11]

@@nicknack5388 6-4-2*

[@CalamitasCalliope]

I was hoping this paragon would be much more support based. I think giving an enhanced Ultraboost to all monkeys in its range could've been cool. And for the trap they could've had it give more money per bloon trapped, and maybe just had it able to hold more bloons. It didn't really have to eat BADs

[@dougman1067]

what i hoped from the design was that the claw can do a bite attack that deals insane damage to bloons. Its a claw similar to excavator’s claws, square and teeth like-object attached to it. the light shines inside the claw, i think that resembles bloon trap pretty nice

[@boi2192]

@@dougman1067 i think it would be cool if it could suck up bloons into its chest and make them give twice the cash, meybe even work like a bloon chipper that gives cash, and had an ability which had a very long cooldown and released it as a much stronger XXXL trap but after u use it u dont get the sucktion back until the cooldown comes back. Or just be like nk and make it pointless

[@monobrow538]

Giving it a XXXXXL trap ability per round that can eat 1 BAD would make it atleast include the trap

[@er1kplay]

The engi paragon is cool bit yeah, it is pretty dissapointing that they didnt give him more support stuff

[@tusharbhudia9421]

I think it did have to eat bads cause the boat does

[@Naretek]

Here’s how I would’ve incorporated Bloon trap: one of the sentries is placable only on the track instead, and functions as a sentry + bloon trap, when the trap is full the sentry explodes dealing high damage.

[@hillrp1]

I like that idea. Mine was that if you had all the sentries down, then moved one, it would leave a bloon trap at the nearest part of the track to the explosion. Maybe an XXL where the main turret used to be and a regular one for all the mini turrets

[@zhiqiangchen6235]

Or like one is like all three of the senterys here combined and the next is a one that can have a stackable ultra boost that’s even better and the last ultra sentery should be a bloom trap spawning that can take 1,000,000 rbe and gives 70,000

[@Echinacae]

@@zhiqiangchen6235 a trap that takes money away?

[@koteghe7600]

@@zhiqiangchen6235 here is your 5 trillion cash tower

[@x_x5009]

I thought one of the sentries would be like spike factory and lay traps on the track

[@Plasmic-knight]

Hopefully Ninja kiwi will do a little bit more for the later paragons since this paragon doesn't really utilize the bottom path as much as previous ones. Not complaining, just hope that they do more creative stuff for the future paragons. I think doing more paragons with support could make things more interesting instead of focusing on raw DPS.

[@kribyy7784]

Its a bit more extreme than not utilizing bottom path a bit, it barely used it at all. At the most its a 5-5-2

[@jivteruel2080]

5-5-2 that sticks ddts in place

[@staticostrich4689]

But it does have utility! It stuns, and has a damage mechanic that isn't instant but gradual. They have variety to them. I am very happy with how this one turned out. The unique sentries that spawn extra sentries, and just the art itself is enough for it to be epic. Although, a bloon trap paragon sentry would have been cool, I admit.

[@kribyy7784]

@@staticostrich4689 It's a support tower and the main focus is dps, almost no utility

[@staticostrich4689]

@@kribyy7784 I was only disagreeing with the comment a little because I felt it was a creative paragon and was worth the work. It is different from the other paragons. I myself too would love to see a utility paragon. We will probably (or hopefully) see that needed support in the village, farm, alchemist, and the ice tower, to name a few.

[@shadyoak1899]

Woah, I can't believe they referenced the fact that overclock stacks would go away in the past if something or another happened. Very cool NK!!

[@Echinacae]

In that aspect, it truly does incorporate middle path! After restarting it ruins your run!

[@AceFuzzLord]

If there's one thing I can count on them for, it's confident incompetence

[@MicitySoul]

If they were to make a trap for the paragon, wanted to put this on the last video you made of the para. They could make it so the trap can take like 10x as much bloons as XXXL Trap or alternatively, if a BAD goes over it, it can hold the bad and place and deal % DOT but can't take any other bloons in while it's holding a BAD.

[@PumpyGT]

Honestly, they should make traps be able to damage BADs, because if you are going for a paragon its obvious youre going for late games and there would already be more than 1 BADs per round

[@Despafrfr]

so, moab hex?

[@Despafrfr]

@@PumpyGT get better defenses

[@hajnahortobagyi690]

I feel like instead of 3 damage turrets it would have been better if each reflected one of the engineer pats. Like one of them could be put on the track, one of them would buff towers in its range and the last one would be the damge one. Or it would have been cool if it could over clock other paragons so it would be a paragon support. I think its a cool concept but it's underwhelming how it incorporates the pats.

[@TheGamer-yh4lw]

Or if instead of the anti-bloon shots it did BEZ shots

[@Lumite-123]

@@TheGamer-yh4lw but that's the dartling gunner-

[@tomatenalat]

NK said not every Path is going to get included in the Paragons.

[@idotic_kid]

@@Lumite-123 I mean it would match with the other 2 current sentries

[@TEddisonTheEpic]

What is with the spelling

[@OVERCLOCKexe]

Alright, since everyone has their own revamp ideas, here's mine: - Nerf the sentries a bit - Add a sentry that drops slightly nerfed big traps, but can have multiple down at once. Higher degrees increase max RBE and slightly increases speed. Cannot hold BADs - Add an aura buff that increases attack speed of all towers in range and attack damage of all mechanical towers in range. Buff amounts depend on number of towers in range and tiers of buffed towers. Buff does not affect paragons, instead adding power given to paragons from T5s that are upgraded to paragons within range over time. This makes degree 100s possible in singleplayer without geraldo. As an aura buff, it cannot be absorbed by lich. - Remove self-ultraboost and buff main attack by a bit - (Most important) Foam gun

[@nmotschidontwannagivemyrea8932]

Why the hell is the foam gun so important? What use is cleansing foam at the stage of lategame where you're getting paragons?

[@SenyiKimmo]

@@nmotschidontwannagivemyrea8932 make foam have a damage debuff effect to make it more relevant as a support tool? idk

[@OVERCLOCKexe]

@@nmotschidontwannagivemyrea8932 Mostly a meme lmao

[@no-lifenoah7861]

Make the Engineer drop a trap, that builds traps

[@pandaborg2466]

Have foam defortify below a bad so it has a use

[@OisirM]

It's really a shame that NK missed the mark game-play wise with designing this paragon. It's so far my favourite from an aesthetic perspective (narrowly ahead of the boomerang paragon and miles ahead of everything else,) the visual design on it is really good, and the high degree red sentry stream looks fantastic. There's a lot of things about it I really want to like, I actually like the engineer tower's basic attack and the pin aspect of it. It's just so undistinguished in terms of what niche it fills, and it lacks several of the defining features that make T5 engies stand out. I really hope that NK go back and redesign this paragon. Kind of feels like community reaction to it has been polarized, so I could see it happening, though they tend to just release new things rather than radically change existing ones.

[@yaboyender6596]

In terms of the niche it fills, I think the gimmick of it scaling in attack speed as time goes on is very interesting and I hope that stays as a mechanic as it encourages players to buy it early.

[@WizardCraft-ox4pe]

@@yaboyender6596 As far as I've read, it only overclocks itself at the beginning of a round and doesn't increase aside from possibly Degree mile markers, so no, it unfortunately barely even excels at that, the only real benefits I can see from it are the dps from turrets and the fact it stuns MOABs up to ZOMGs Edit: Apparently I didn't read far enough, but even still its a bit underwhelming for being the first representative of the "Support" category as a paragon

[@jasoncole1833]

i think the main engi should have a little animation when his attack speed gets maxed out, kinda like a hero leveling up to 20

[@grass-touched]

Do you know how many rounds it takes to get it the self overclock maxed I'm trying to find out but there aren't any clear answers

[@Despafrfr]

@@grass-touched 50 or 60

[@kirbykraftgames]

For something that everyone was so hyped over, it's kinda sad how underwhelming the Master Builder is

[@PotatoMC1]

yeah... I guess it was bound to happen. They can't drop a banger every time

[@roberteberly727]

would be cool if there was a constant overclock aura around the paragon or around one of the sentries

[@MrJellyman223]

around a sentry would be cool cause then you could relocate it

[@TheUndeadCrawlerNL]

@@MrJellyman223 that would be too broken

[@TheUndeadCrawlerNL]

@@MrJellyman223 that would be too broken

[@notgood1321]

@@TheUndeadCrawlerNL what if it was a 20 stack ultraboost-type aura? Would that be too overpowered?

[@stormedmint3325]

@@notgood1321 definitely brolen

[@mirzapramudya1580]

I have a somewhat idea on how to make the engineer paragon utilize it's paths better First thing, is make it so that it can place down a Bloon trap. Once full, you can sell it. This further pushes the "support" part of the engineer monkey, in wich it helps creating more cash And the second thing, give him an ability where he places down a tower that boosts any non paragon tower around him. The boost will obviously be better than Ultraboost

[@krahser6914]

I mean nk said they wouldn’t incorporate all the paths

[@mirzapramudya1580]

@@krahser6914 I know, but it honestly sucks tho

[@malakas9917]

I feel like paragons aren't really designed for late game but for bosses so I wouldn't add much except a more powerful ultra boost that can go to paragons but only once on paragons. Assuming it still does the exact same thing but stronger.This will only work on paragons.

[@Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzn]

a paragon is just a better version of it's normal tower self. there's no need to use all paths , if they did add bloon trap how would that work? can y'all shut up Abt the bloon trap it's so annoying​@@mirzapramudya1580

[@fyfhfjcj]

It would be cool if it could overclock paragons by like 10% attack speed

[@mrtuffguy2769]

that would make them too OP. Especially the boat

[@manusiaorang2842]

@@mrtuffguy2769 i dont think overclock matter much for boat

[@JS_360NC]

@@manusiaorang2842 It would, the boats main gun is where most of its damage comes from

[@manusiaorang2842]

@@JS_360NC yeh but i rarely seen it being used

[@Doc_Sans]

That’s the village paragon’s job

[@acee3390]

Great, now compare it to our beloved sentry paragon

[@vikavolt11]

Im pretty sure Plasma Fan Club and Sentry Champion can massively out-damage their paragons thanks to ultraboost and other buffs

[@kumoko3728]

Ew this person said sentry champion, where are the days of people still calling it sentry paragon 😔

[@waterrr6332]

@@kumoko3728 I still call it Sentry paragon to anyone who had just joined the game and their reactions are funny

[@adamb1117]

really disappointing that Engi paragon is the most expensive by a pretty sizable margin and can't seem to handle the late game.

[@xn85d2]

I agree. I think NK's intention is that with the stun on MOAB-class bloons and pin on normal ones, it makes other towers including other paragons you have able to get more damage in.

[@wantstobeagm_alt]

I just noticed but actually the boat paragon degree is how many moabs you can hook in without ability except bad.

[@PotatoMC1]

:o

[@blazeprxey]

Bro I swear every time a new paragon releases, I realize how good some of the paths can be. The dart and boomerang were monkeys that I used a lot for all paths except for plasma monkey fan club so I didn’t really have any realization. For the ninja, I really never used the middle or bottom path despite them being the two best for pops, especially the bloon sabotage I never used the trade empire because I didn’t think it was good. Then I realized a lot of them can really boost money making. For the engineer, I used to always start games with the top path engineer. I always use ultra boost. But I never realized how good a boosted XXL Trap could be and I never used it. It really is good when you boost it and have a farmer near it. It pops out a trap very quickly and only has a ddt and bad weakness.

[@Cokodayo]

I love how u use legend of the night to clutch, it matches his description so perfectly, "we turn to him when all hope is lost"

[@alexfrench6567]

I think the only thing from bottom path is the pin, but now it works on Moab class bloons

[@cygott2089]

I like to think that NK makes paragons with the intent of putting them against bosses, instead of late game. That’s why I think the engy paragon doesn’t have traps; cause what are they gonna do against bosses?

[@drcgaming4195]

bloonarious bloon spawns

[@Yuni-is-Schrodingers-Fox]

@@drcgaming4195potentially okay for 1 out of 3 bosses. Not exactly what you want from a paragon.

[@dsdsdsdsdsdsds3]

then maybe they should have made it good for bosses, and not need a fuckton of rounds to overclock which is pretty much impossible to do on a boss? if you place it for tier 5 (and ur not rly affording it earlier) it does worse than a same degree boomer...

[@lemonjuice1452]

eat up overbuffed lych souls?

[@PotatoMC1]

If that's the case then the overclock ability is also useless against bosses. You're not gonna be waiting 30 rounds to max out your paragon's damage

[@deoverseers]

You can micro the turrets, when you replace a paragon, it will replace it, and explode the last one, so you can replace the paragon in the same position, and it will not change at all. And it will cause an OP explosion (Without using this I wouldn’t have been able to beat elite lych this week)

[@lilharm]

bottom path might be in the blimp stun, it’s like the pin upgrade with the blimp targeting of an xxxl trap

[@lessthan3714]

My idea to add the bloon trap is that the paragon automatically throws down 3 bloon traps on the track, a weak one close to the start, a stronger one in the middle, and a very strong one directly at the end. Also for path 2, give the paragon an ability that gives the same buff as ultraboost, but can be used alongside it.

[@Blazergl]

Imo the engi paragon should have it’s backpack act as a trap so once every X time it’s backpack sucks in the most powerful balloon on the screen only as high as zomg or it should only active when balloons are close to it where the traps suction actually slows down balloons and gives extra damage to attacks

[@Fireninja2343]

The Engineer Paragon is literally Ray of Doom, M.A.D, Anti-Bloon & Sentry Champion. nk really didn't know how to make it

[@shneegle69]

Personally I'm disappointed in this paragon, I'm not saying it's bad, I just wish we'd finally see so support in a paragon rather than just more raw damage. and the missing path is difficult to overlook, They didn't even need to make the trap suck up BADs just a super powerful once a round or long cool down trap would have been awesome! Also I think if the engi paragon had an ultra boost like ability that could boost a single tower by a lot even temporally would be super cool, especially if it could buff paragons or was so strong you could only use it a few times a round and after the tower is boosted it can't attack for a short amount of time (similar to Ben's ability) just to help balance it out a little, and maybe even the engi paragons sentries could buff other nearby towers similar to an alch buff but the sentries could provide their own unique buffs like extra moab damage, increased projectile speed ect.. they could even shoot foam as the buff so then the buffed monkey's would be covered in foam. Idk I'm just a little bored of the raw damage paragons, I want to see something different and unique, not that the paragons aren't super super cool but when they all do this much damage it doesn't really separate them that much, at the end of the day tho I'm happy NK is providing free updates and giving us paragons so even if it's not what I expected I'm still very happy with it.

[@imraneahmrioui2968]

It is almost 3 am in Europe and I I’m still up to see this banging video just wanna say keep the good content up and much love❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@JustJonas]

wow... I thought for sure it would overclock paragons or "ultra boost" them a degree so basically add +1, etc. It's a SUPPORT tower that doesnt SUPPORT. Lame. so much wasted potential

[@adamkaangambrill]

What if one of the sentries was replaced with a Bloon Trap dispenser? A separate, smaller building that can periodically spawn Bloon Traps, maybe even multiple at a time. It would probably only be double or triple the power of the Tier-5 Engineer, but it could also trap a single B.A.D before destroying itself. Another of the sentries could also apply Foam around it, like a Spike Factory. Plus, maybe a secondary ability would be good for this Paragon, allowing it to actually buff other Paragons exclusively.

[@frank9966]

You know i feel ninja kiwi should of given the engineer paragon a bloon trap sentry gun amongst the abilities: so instead of spawning extra sentries, it drops bloon traps, maybe just the normal xx4 bloon traps, or maybe slightly better ones (better than 4th tier but worse than 5th tier) (also maybe let that same bloon trap sentry gun shoot foam to get that tier 3 representation for all 3 tiers since it already has sprockets and double guns represented) Also they should add a little effect on the paragon that activates each round to communicate to the player the engineer has over clocked itself (and preferably add some text saying it can do that in the description)

[@liber2350]

Kinda silly how degree 1 and 100 have the same cap when getting a degree 100 probably takes longer than the time it would take for degree 1 to cap it's attack speed

[@blueyandicy]

Degree 100 hits the cap faster.

[@Kryogenix2]

Boat will just always win in Freeplay because of ability, engineer rivals it because of it's burst, but it requires so much effort to be nearly as effective.

[@boi2192]

The foams could work the way that every like 20 seconds or maybe longer, perhaps it would depend on the degree, it would drop an XXXL trap somewhere random in its range (like x3x engis before the targeting buff) Also saying that the boat paragon already one shots BADs so this one shouldnt is kinda dumb, since like if the boat has the ability to one shot a zomg than the paragon should be able to do that to BADs, and if engi can one shot zomgs Then the paragon should also be able to one shot BADs. And it really wouldnt be that op if they gave it a long enough cooldown

[@silentstorm227]

I think the bottom path of engi paragon is meant to be represented by the stun, due to 0-0-2 being pin, I could be wrong tho

[@xn85d2]

Honestly the problem of balancing this tower shows the bigger problem that NK built into the game: How late-game becomes all about BAD popping power and everything else doesn't matter. Varied and interesting mechanics like camo detection, lead popping, stun, slow, knockback, regrow all become almost irrelevant and the only thing that matters is raw damage.

[@jamhopsey]

besides the blatantly weird choices they made for this paragon the self ultraboost is a fun mechanic because getting the paragon later means you sacrifice attack speed creep for more pops/higher degrees. ofc this would still be a gamble you’d have to take if you had the option to ultraboost other paragons too ahaha

[@pemioi]

i wanna mortar paragon be able to defort bads, i feel like that wouldn't be to over powered but also very useful

[@tatsumiplays2625]

If you didn't know a while back they changed it so if you have cleansing foam and sentries it would apply the cleansing foam to the bullets of the sentries and the engineer itself and if you look at one of the arms or maybe even both of them it shows the cleansing from centuries on the arms that shoot the kinds of phone which because of how fast the fires which would be better than the actual kinds of film itself you would have more range it would be more accurate it allows you to do more damage to that and to actually pop leads Also it does have bottom path capabilities that is it has the pin from bottom half but they buffed it so it can actually stun

[@daniellucas5522]

TBH I just want the representation to feel good about it as a paragon. I don't need it to be OP. I'd literally be fine with it just spawning an XXXL trap - maybe with a slightly higher RBE limit. I don't need it to eat BADs, I just want to see that the paragon is the 5-5-5 and not the 6-2-2. Same with the foam and the overclock - I don't need it to be OP, I just need them to give me the utility I had before I combined them. You could literally just have the paragon dispense nearly unchanged foam and leave me with the abilities from the t5 and I'll be less mad.

[@mitchellozment9237]

Kinda wish they went all out on the support aspect, where a cool incorporation would be that master builder could "teach" glue gunners a better formula that acts like a buffed cleansing foam. It could teach Mortar and dartling gun advanced targeting etc

[@kylecerny7730]

i think something to include the bloon trap into the paragon would be a sentry that eats bloons, then spits them back out as attacks, it would be able to eat ZOMGs but they would instantly fill it up and it would shoot it back out, doing 1 pop per 2 health each bloon it ate had.

[@Arceaus98]

Based on the stats given in the Discord screenshot for attack rate, I think with +10% per round it should max out after 50 rounds, not 60. 0.3 to 0.05 is 6x total, so you would need to add 5x or 500% to get there.

[@oninguem9552]

Nice 6-2-2 engineer !

[@christiancasaverdepertica1802]

6-0-3* It does have 2 guns

[@ThatNerdGuy0]

i think for the trap, it should be an ability that can hold up to 1 or 2 bads worth of rbe and can only be activated once per round, but can be placed anywhere I also think that it should be capable of overclocking nearby towers, and also give weak overclocks to other paragons

[@amountedak9246]

Idea for implemetation of bottom path:Multiple XXL traps across the map(1 near the exit,1 near the paragon and 1 near each sentry placed so a total of 5 XXL traps) Maybe even an ability that can trap the bad but that would need extra balancing

[@ellipsis4549]

A trap that functions as a legend of the night ability, considering that legend of the night has uncapped popping power and it's not a paragon

[@daviscorl110]

If you didn’t know you can door gunner the sentries for basically full map range

[@Oversail]

Not only does this paragon not include the bottom path well enough. It also doesn’t even do the SENTRIES right, since the laser sentry can’t lock into one spot, the red sentries plasma balls don’t have the same damage, critical hits or pierce of the antibloon, and the blue sentry over shadows the two others.

[@juhno7659]

At least should have been able to overclock other paragons with a permanent increase up to a maximum amount, along with a temporary ultra overclock

[@TechBirb]

Fan creations:massive turrets, ultraboosting paragons, BAD traps. Ninjakiwi:Enginire

[@temmieio3731]

Fun fact: A max buffed sentry champion lasts longer than a degree one master builder. The sentry champion lasted to 192(198 at best) rounds. Isab tried it on one of his max buffing videos.

[@doomslayer6906]

The bloon trap part is that the big sentrys hold the mini ones, like the traps holds the bloons

[@isaacdavidson7985]

It would have been cool if it had some type if overclock ability that buffs does moab/boss damage.

[@miranhaespada1381]

Idk what I did, I think it was probably the overclock, but I get a 76 degree Engineer Paragon on the single player The other Paragons, even me using more 4th tier monkeys, and even the dart monkey with 2 crossbow masters, don't get this high (I can't remember exactly, but I think) The dart was 43, boomerang 34, ninja 39 and boat 25

[@purplenickname]

They are not planning to add the Bloon chipper in the game right? It has some similarities to the Bloon trap, it sucks in Bloons, so maybe they could try to implement it to the paragon somehow, maybe have a hand or another sentry?

[@jacen7911]

The engineers hands look like Donald duck and I can't unsee it anymore...

[@peppapig9987]

I think a trap that could suck up ZOMG's at a higher amount then XXXL with the same or faster spawn rate would be fine. It wouldn't be super op as other towers can do it, but it would be really good and have the big trap part of it.

[@not_noob0845]

for the bloon trap the engi para puts like 16 XXL traps and has a ability where he put an XXXXL trap that eats 2 BAD(you can out 1 a round and have a ability of 1 min-1:30 min

[@GameJam230]

I think a cool way they could have implemented the bottom path better AND add in another feature people have asked for would be to make the sentries act like a Bloon Chipper. Basically it would suck in bloons constantly, stopping after it has filled with enough RBE, and damage the bloon according to their tier. Ceramics would simply be destroyed, but MOABs and BFBs would be taken down a single layer before being spat back onto the track. Each sentry could even have different properties. For example, the blue turret could be able to suck in ZOMGs, but suck in much slower. The red turret could suck in fast and have high max RBE before getting blocked, but it could only suck in ceramics, then the green turret could just be in between those two.

[@JuggR]

I would have liked to see to integrate the bottom path maybe the fourth claw that doesn't get used maybe every once in awhile pick up a zomg or lower and put it in the back of the suit

[@legendsyt1498]

"Wheres our white substance on the ground" Literally everyone:"AYOOOOOOO"

[@KairuZandaa]

“Monkey engineering developed to perfection” Still uses nails/darts to attack

[@CosmicCrimson]

Along with someone else's idea, maybe to inpliment traps would be to change the green centry into a lazer+trap that can only be placed on the track, and once the trap fills the trap instantly explodes and gives cash.

[@XCY375]

I feel like it would be cool overpowered or not that any tower near its range gets a 10x overclock buff on it or have a support sentry that like gives special buffs for towers

[@kingcowt1]

Idea: on each sentry explosion it drops 5 normal traps, one at the furthest possible place on the track, and the rest randomly

[@nerdnamedjerry]

there is the bottom path portion in the fact that it can stun MOAB class bloons so that's something i guess

[@ChargedBonsai98]

My head-canon for why the engi paragon using elements from different towers is bc the engineers designed the weapons the other towers use

[@joaneminxy]

Fun fact, the Sentrys from the paragon have the shortest hitbox, you can put them all together on the side of that pool in logs

[@thebratwurst]

I had a concept for the engineer paragon, the Bloon trap would of attack that sucks in bloons until it releases in an energy blast from the champion sentries. It would of been called the the Bloon Chipper

[@absolutewimp8713]

they can make each sentry different like make one put down sentry champion stuff and make another periodically give the overclock buff to towers in its range cap it like at 3 or 5 towers and make the last sentry periodically shoot out a XXXL trap bloon trap but give it more space to contain the moabs and stuff no need to make it swallow up the bad

[@gaijinbroken6571]

level 100 should have given more senteries

[@Banana_Fusion]

I saw someone say that they could have a sentrie that places xxl traps- it would be paragon level good but not op 1) place anywhere u like 2) place multiple traps 3) doesn't gobble bads So it's balanced... So why did nk not add it?

[@justinjheyb.bacani6647]

Fun fact: If your Mega Sentries are in range of a sun temple and you sacrifice it will be Sarificed. (I diont think its true because in my game where i was getting VTSG near my sentries it was gone)

[@theblueberrypi6152]

This feels like a 5-3.5-3 Engineer, or a 4-5-5 Dartling.

[@ShortArtGuy]

Sadly yes

[@ThisUsernameIsPrivate]

I actually hoped engi paragon would be able to overclock other paragons

[@decayedwolf1997]

It should’ve been able to place Bloonchippers instead of Bloon Traps.

[@manidhingra5192]

Exactly

[@thematrixlunchhacker]

My main issue is how underwhelming this paragon is for its price. In no way or sense I would prefer this over boat paragon if there is water available

[@venommouse7726]

Literally add a reskined Bloon trap that works on bad and make it spew foam every round. Make it scale depending on level and people will be happy. If they want extra credit just make overboost go to 20 stacks and have it be the same ability as 050

[@pixelboy2534]

now after the release i think a bloon chipper tower would be cool because it would bring the long requested chipper in and it has some sort of trap aspect because the chipper sucks in the bloons like the trap

[@danielh9797]

The sentry’s count to the pop count also so take the dps of the sentry’s combined away from the nail dps to get the real nail dps

[@treyhebert426]

Can’t help but think this is the devs way of say ing “just be good at the game” the glitch that was over sighted

[@YayDotPNG]

i think it would be cool for the paragon to use his hand to trap balloons for the XXXL trap path.

[@carriewilson1006]

Balloon shredder 2.0

[@drgan4568]

I think they need to add 2 things, visuals to the ultra boost, and have the ultra boost effect the engie, the turrets, and everything in both their ranges, making it a support paragon like it should have been, and adding more strategy into where you put the turrets, to maximize their support on your towers, and their damage

[@vxwgaming1622]

They could make it so the sentries have like a pocket to when bloons walk near them, they get sucked Into the pocket dimension to represent the third path, also my favorite path for engineer

[@Wizzkidwas]

One of the sentries should've just been a bloonchipper that makes money, like a bloon trap sentry

[@TOOTHBRUSHDUCK]

The red sentry is also like an enhanced shotgun since it fires multiple shots, so you could say it is also that

[@axtxwastaken]

I like how there's more dartling paths on the engi paragon than engi paths

[@guywithnoname9302]

Should have a secret ability that activates if you sell all the sentries within one round. It will spawn a big plane doing a figure 8 and a Sauda. Instead of dropping bombs, the plane drops white foam on Sauda

[@SirProtagonist]

I think trap could work kinda like BMA where it becomes much more powerful in exchange for not getting money. That's why I would like to propose the paragon VOID trap. Basically a bottomless trap that absorbs regular Bloons, MOABS, BFBs and DDTs. (Would be an I win button if it could absorb BADs. ZOMGs feel a bit too tough to get eaten too.) Trap has either an infinite or absurdly high rbe cap, and collects for $0 whenever/if ever it does.

[@Legoluke197]

Honestly expected the paragon to have a sentry that threw out xxxl traps but the ones we got are pretty decent.

[@orinjguce]

I feel like they could've easily included all paths with the sentries it makes. Such as one sentry being the top path where it's all about projectile damage, a middle path sentry where it lays down cleansing foam in the surrounding area and overclocks nearby towers, and bottom path where it's like a turret with a bloon trap as the base of it or something similar.

[@finntastiq1524]

The paragon could have dropped like a landmine that instead of exploding, it latches on bloons and sells them like a bloontrap would but instantly. This way, the bloontrap and the white substance gets addressed by the paragon. For balancing, the paragon could drop it every once in a while or only work on moabs/small bloons

[@samuelcarlson6120]

When you have the paragon sentries down and sacrifice monkeys for a true sun god(or vengeful), the sentries are able to be sacrificed. Though I dont know if it counts towards the support

[@richaardlambert2002]

Try the blue sentry turret as a door gunner. It's nuts

[@selarom2018]

It would be cool if the sentries were floating and you could swap some or all between different modes or something, such as big drone eat bad mode or something like stuns and DOT debuffs or railgun that just pierces thr in all seriousness, with the recent release of magus perfectus this paragon is heavily overshadowed and really needs to be reworked

[@calinconstantin524]

the engi built the dartling thats why the engi was added before the dartling and why the engi paragon includes parts of dartling on turrets he realised that it would be better to automate these parts then have a monkey use them

[@salivablueberryguts7740]

My opinion on what the engi paragon SHOULD have been Top Path: what they did is perfectly fine Middle Path: every 25 seconds a circular mass ultraboost & overclock type thing with 35% extra effectiveness to overclock and 3% to each ultra boosts tier, making all towers in the paragon's range get the effects (kinda like level 10 gwen but with ultraboost and overclock) for balancing it either shouldnt effect paragons or be weakened when used on paragons. obviously more damage against moabs and lots of pierce because thats part of ultraboost upgrade Bottom Path: big trap (and pin + double gun + big nails like they already incorporated)

[@quazzydiscman]

It's not the least powerful or least interesting-- and without knowing anything about engineers is actually pretty awesome-- and yet somehow by far the most disappointing paragon yet.

[@Ofxzh]

I think the paragon should have had a foam sprayer that acted like a flame thrower.