New EVE Vanguard Gameplay and Details...

[@EnigmacTheFirst]

Man, I miss Dust 514.

[@antonysmith7518]

OMG SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@SumBoarding]

Its all i want.. i am old enough now to spend sum serious money on it. Dust is way better than this eve vanguard shi.

[@SelectiveStreets]

Bruh it was the first game that we actually worked with all the squads. Clans man

[@stonergames]

Them facts...😅😏☕💁🏽

[@bobmcbob49]

​@@SumBoardingmoney didn't get you very far in Dust. Big reason why it was good and big reason why it failed, because nobody was whaling on it.

[@morganchandler9132]

I loved dust514! So many forms of customization and playstyles! Great game

[@gohardgibson]

Dust 514 was a great concept. Hopefully this takes it to a higher level.

[@rock2k14]

Given that DUST 514 was a Combined Arms Warfare game and this is just another generic Extraction Shooter, they aren't even the same Genre's, I would have loved a new DUST 514 that wasn't crippled by being put on a platform exclusive of a console at the end of its life, but this is not it.

[@Jake-yf3gv]

Dust 514 was actually good and fit the vibe of Eve a bit better than this. The death knell was the whole "You know how our player base is PC, let's make this PS exclusive on the final cycle of the current generation" Absolutely mind boggling decision there. Take Planetside scope, make that in an EvE universe. There, I made you a kickass game ccp. Nobody wants to play this shitty tarkov, and this coming from someone who loves EvE online for decades.

[@xXYannuschXx]

@@Jake-yf3gv "You know how our player base is PC, let's make this PS exclusive on the final cycle of the current generation." - using an engine that is known for running horribly on said console. I REALLY have no idea what they were thinking at the time.

[@tect0nicssb]

@@rock2k14 I've heard there are plans to expand past an "extraction shooter", but they need to have a solid base game first.

[@bobmcbob49]

​@@tect0nicssb"this is just the base we're expanding on" is also what they said about Dust

[@lilkhmer5]

Imagine if they made a planetside type game instead of a dumb extraction shooter. Should have just taken Dust 514 and fixed it.

[@lwkysad1170]

L take

[@IrregularrAF]

Dust 514 was garbage to begin with and had zero future.

[@OrphanCrippler1]

@@lwkysad1170 No it isnt. we have 800 extraction shooters and theyre allll boring. Eve is supposed to be an mmo. why tf would you not make your shooter an mmofps like planetside? its quite literally made for the eve universe.

[@MidnightWyvern]

Thanks for bringing some attention to this game! For all of us that played Dust 514 while it was out it's great to see CCP coming back to it, and I hope they stick the landing this time. EDIT: Okay, having watched to the end of the video now, I can tell you from having been in all but the earliest of the playtests they've done that the concept has already evolved a good amount over the past few months. The devs have been really active on the EVE Discord and are now being even more active in the new EVE Vanguard Discord, and it's been really nice to see feedback we gave taken into account already. They recently released a new InFocus video that goes deeper into what they want the game to eventually be which I think you might find intriguing.

[@EvaX3c]

YO DUST 514 was epic on ps3, glad its get a successor of sorts

[@adamc_vp77]

Dude I remember playing that on the ps3, wasn't a hardcore player but still loved the feel of it

[@Texasmule]

I still have DUST 514 downloaded on my ps3

[@replaysettings]

I loved Dust so much because I loved watching videos about Eve and it was just always beyond me but I love seeing the stories about Eve and getting the brief opportunity to play Dust felt like I was finally part of it lol. I was just a kid then but Dust 514 was such a cool moment in gaming history.

[@cybercobras5083]

CYBER COBRAS

[@SolFireYT]

“Extraction shooter” well there goes any interest I may have.

[@damianbennett6770]

it seems like a shit ton of companys are moving towards making extraction shooters i find them quite fun but idk why every single company on this green earth has to make a fucking version of it like come up with you're own shit

[@Adama.1]

@@damianbennett6770 that always happens. Battle royale was also in almost every game, even games that are not shooters. Just jump on the hype train for hopefully some quick money

[@r3ktfox146]

God i miss Dust 514, the multiplayer was so bloody fun

[@qriderjoe9793]

I remember the old ps3 game Dust 514. It was fun and i was sad to see it die

[@Drrolfski]

Without at least Planetside 2-level scale it will never feel as an Eve game.

[@rock2k14]

Yea, I don't get why people compare this to DUST 514, they aren't even the same genre, I would have loved a new Combined Arms Warfare game not crippled by being stuck as an exclusive to a console at the end of its life, what they giving everyone is Tarkov, entirely different genres and completely lacks the scale that EVE needs.

[@Unknown_Genius]

@@rock2k14 tbf, the whole concept of Dust 514 sounded great back then but after further thinking about it it just didn't make any real sense and most things were never implemented (and would have literally killed what was left of the product if they did). I see why they make an extraction shooter this time given that it generally doesn't precisely draw a low amount of players. Do I see it go anywhere as a former long term EvE player? Not really honestly, PvPvE extraction sounds like a concept that fits a shooter focused around (and directly connected to) EVE perfectly fine, but I highly doubt that it'll somehow be more successful at achieving what Dust was supposed to achieve, let alone survive if they'd try to implement every cross interaction they wanted for a shooter.

[@Trivagoski]

@@Unknown_Genius how an extraction shooter fits EVE?

[@CrusstySculpture]

​@Trivagoski how does it not? You could fit most styles of shooters into the universe quite easily

[@Unknown_Genius]

@@Trivagoski The bigger question would be if you ever actually played EVE (or at least half of its content) if you need to ask that.

[@therebel1375]

Was looking forward to this since I loved dust 514 but lost interest when I found out it was an extraction shooter

[@beltempest4448]

Right!?

[@elongated_musket6353]

>cool art style and graphics >interesting looking gunplay >"extraction shooter" yeah ok nevermind

[@marellius2868]

whats the matter?

[@elongated_musket6353]

@@marellius2868 Its an extraction shooter. As if we need another one.

[@jibblejabjoe]

This game screams, “Look at all my style! You like style, right? I mean, it’s better than substance!”

[@OPTIMUMELITE]

I need DUST 514 AGAIN. VEHICLES ALL OUT WAR IN A DARK STARK HIGHLY ADVANCED SCIFI UNIVERSE!!! I NEED IT AND ITS NOT "HALO"

[@kamrankazemifar]

As someone with 5K hours in EVE and thousands in FPS like Tarkov and Valorant why they didn’t go a looter shooter route with realistic abilities is baffling to me. Why can’t I just be a foot soldier fighting for one of the factions and just do missions and loot with items linked to the EVE economy with a compelling story. Maybe we get sent on an operation here and there and have access to weapons of a frigate in low orbit for support. A mix of Halo ODST, The Division and a bit of Warframe but set in the EVE universe. This game looks so generic it’s insane. Extraction Shooter what a joke man.

[@quadrapodacone]

EvE is dead.. we all moved to Star Citizen.

[@johnpauljonesisabadass8134]

​@@quadrapodacone joke of the century.

[@friendlygamergang4293]

Honestly? Because if you tie it too closely to EVE you limit its appeal. EVE is a decent-sized MMORPG, but it pales in comparison to big MMORPGs. CCP want a lot of players, not just a small % of EVE players who might play a shooter. They're obviously making Vanguard as a cool standalone experience for people who don't give a shit about EVE. Might not be what EVE players want to hear, but makes perfect sense.

[@ThePyroRussian]

I mean this what I got out of this. the idea that its going to be monthly sub to play.

[@kcornelis606]

@@friendlygamergang4293who is going to play this game as a stand alone game hahaha. You got all those other games on the market. They should’ve connected Eve and this game together

[@1987RaPsCaLLioN]

Like most of the population, I don’t think you’ll ’get it’ right away, Level. This game is a spiritual successor to Dust 514 from back in the day on PS3, the community would love the devs to make the game the same as Dust 514 and then improve on it but in order to appeal to a wider audience it needs to be more than that. If the suits, weapons and vehicles come back, the Dusties will be happy (and they need to fix the tram system too!), but in order for it to become sustainable they will probably need something like microtransactions to move it along. This won’t be the game ‘we’ want it to be for a few years at least so like me, I imagine most will just lurk in the background until there’s a heavy suit, a forge gun and a minigun as well as a smattering of vehicles and then dive in. Us folks that used to play every single day now have kids and houses to run so it will take something special to claw us back. We’ll be keeping half an eye out though so hopefully see you on the battlefield in 2025.

[@cartho1103]

Just say it's an extraction shooter and save some of us the time

[@marellius2868]

why is that a bad thing?

[@nihilisticnerd]

This game feels closer to "The Cycle: Stormachasers" (the alpha version of The Cycle) it makes me happy to see something like that being made once again.

[@kintsugi3932]

It looks like a typical extraction, but it is pretty cool in concept. Imagine knowing real players/clan on EVE is hiring you below to get things done for them etc.

[@Motard.Actual]

I like Dust a lot more….

[@brockoala2994]

Though I'm not gonna play this game, since EVE has been a thing in the past for me, I do hope CIG checks this out and learn good things from it. For example, the concept of orbital strike from Dust 514 was so cool! Imagine Javelin or Bengal can bombard from the orbit, would be epic!

[@SleepingDaemon]

As a hardcore Dust 514 player, I can't say this interests me. I would have expected something similar but better than what Dust 514 was.

[@KaboosOnX1]

DOA. People want cool weapons and gear. Not chipsets.

[@connorropp4947]

I've been waiting for this game! Loved dust 514

[@blee04524]

You watched the video? This is nothing like dust

[@connorropp4947]

@blee04524 yeah, I just wanted something in the same universe

[@tect0nicssb]

@@blee04524 For now

[@titansboytc]

I remember playing dust 514 on ps3 till still day it's one of the best free to play games on ps3 till this day

[@OPTIMUMELITE]

Wait. Bro the concept/idea for EVE 514 is top tier. I need games like that and Planetside 2 and more shit like that where it's like galactic war real time. Fighting on Planets and those Battles actually have concrete standing within the world. Maybe winning a battle means that the highest ranking group could rule over the planet in some way.

[@KenjiBiH]

i used to play dust 514 XD

[@Sladeraptor17]

They should add a homefront planet war. Vangaurds fight over a specific planet or set of planets, and in the eve universe, capsuleers can complete planetary blockades, maybe new npc agent missions to resupply the vanguards or to perform an orbital bombardment for them, all while vanguards can battle it out down below. Or have faction warzone planefs give different, better, or new types of PI materials where both sides are battling for control. The vanguards are fighting to attack, destroy, or defend different PI operations ran by capsuleers on LS space. Guarding or destroying frieght shipments across planets or linked PI facilities.

[@gravewalker7411]

Chip Set customization is intriguing, reminds me a bit of Destiny 2 weapon upgrades. Yet unlike Destiny 2, the lack of weapon diversity alone is a dead on arrival for me.

[@BearanormalPodcast]

Oh....oh god no, oh honey...no. Another dust 514 ending inbound.

[@GrimDim]

Of course, an attraction shooter.

[@marellius2868]

a what?

[@W4ELU]

We’re so back!!!!

[@MeMe-od3ow]

On the Dust 514 note, I always felt like having a FPS portion as well as a possible fighter pilot role, tied into the EVE mmo was a missed opportunity. If any mmo could do it, I believe Eve could.

[@AndrewTurner251]

I played dust514 and I liked it. I like how it was connected to the EVE universe. I am looking forward to this one as well.

[@MildewtheStoryteller]

I remember when Dust 514 was taken down, they said it was to work on a next gen "Project Legion" Maybe this is that? The description matches what they were going for, from what I remember.

[@wileytype1886]

Not sure about the lack of weapons/lack of customization. Kind of underwhelming, but that's just me.

[@Muffinsmasher]

When I see LevelCap or JackFrags talk about a new game: Release Date: 2090 *In 2090*: This game is out now as a tech demo that never stops being a buggy dumpster fire.

[@geddybear9108]

Great, another DoA extraction shooter. This fad ended a while ago, why cant devs let it die.

[@davidmoyer1168]

I am also incredibly disappointed, 514 was the first online shooter I've played, and it's so disappointing that this is just more extraction shooter slop. I really hate modern AAA gaming

[@yous2244]

What does DoA stand for

[@geddybear9108]

@@yous2244 dead on arrival

[@yous2244]

@@geddybear9108 lol, that explains nothing. What does it mean though.

[@yous2244]

@@geddybear9108 do you mean uts bad?

[@javorember9798]

I played Dust 514 at ps3 - it was damn hard. Loved it!

[@Dj-621]

An fps with only two distinct guns. Yeah, that's not gonna work

[@DARKDEXX]

I played Dust 514 before and it was a pretty game hopefully Vanguard will be even better.

[@TheCephalus]

Dust 514 was great, but failed because it attempted to be console exclusive which segregated the playerbase

[@EnigmacTheFirst]

For real. I can imagine that Dust 514 would've been way more popular if it'd been on PC.

[@12Erik45]

1:42 I don't remember giving them permission to use my gameplay

[@beltempest4448]

You don’t own footage you make of their game. It will be there in the user agreement. You gave them permission when you accepted the agreement.

[@Daark_Karma]

They don't require you're permission Same with every game. Any content you make from a game can be used by the game's company to further their own advertising.

[@Potato_n_Tomato]

Bruh why are people acting so serious/defensive. He's obviously making a joke since at that moment it was Stormtrooper aim.

[@beltempest4448]

@@Potato_n_Tomato you can tell that through a text eh? Your opinion is subjective. Our responses are based on what was actually said.

[@Potato_n_Tomato]

@@beltempest4448 yeah it's absurdly obvious if you actually watch the clip/time stamp

[@Zagor24]

Ahh, another "let's try and cash in on the extraction shooter hype" game...

[@beltempest4448]

I honestly think they should be going down the route of taking up directly from where Dust left off. The probes with Dust was it was PS3 exclusive. Which made no sense for a game directly connected to a PC space MMO. This game will flop. It’s doing absolutely nothing interesting. A massive space ground war sim connected to EVE online would be much much more interesting. This looks really quite basic. Why they think copying Tarkov is a good idea makes no sense, when they should be pickup up from BF and Planetside

[@ODST-nf7cq]

I think they needed to redo dust 514. We a have too many extraction shooters and on top of that battlefield fans and even cod fans aren't that happy with their games. I know I'm most likely biased but dust 514 was ahead of it's time and I think if they redid that with current tech it'd be a booming success.

[@thesolitaryowl]

I wish so badly I could go back to 2014 and play a few Dust 514 matches

[@ZekaSkope]

I absolutely smashed Dust 514 back in the day (TSOLE 4 Life!). But I kind of like the idea that the playing field will be a bit more levelled. Our Corp was fortunate to have a small piece of the planetary conquest when it was live, but for other players, even dedicated ones, it was a bit demoralizing when they are watching 4 or 5 corps just dominating the space and their efforts were pointless. I only hope that terrain and maps will be a bit more varied and picturesque than what we are seeing in this video. We should be past the brown and grey aesthetic with Unreal Engine 5, and without bosses, beasts or alien NPCs the gameplay could get old real fast.

[@sisnoXsisnosis]

I HATE the fact that each race wont have its own unique play style like in Eve and DUST. Minmitar used projectiles, amarr lasers ect ect Dust 514 seems superior in combat and flow of game. I do like this new pvpve mix of the extraction shooter however.

[@MidnightWyvern]

So a WHILE back they actually showed off concept art of at least one rifle for each race, but this time it's not just race but Corporations, so you'll have different styles of weapon for each race based on what Corporation makes it. They showed off a Gallente Plasma gun, the Minmatar gun you see in game which fires bullets, a Caldari gun that uses a chemical cartridge to 3D print railgun ammo for itself, and an Amarr laser rifle that looks like more of an art piece than a gun. So a good representation of how each race does guns. The current gun in Vanguard looks EXACTLY like that old concept art, so it's a safe bet that's what we're going to see for the other three.

[@carlitosskater89]

Im gonna say: the fact EVEo is still alive is baffling to me.

[@yous2244]

Uts an amazing game. Watch Eve Online:Down the Rabbit Hole

[@franciscoiiiumbac3167]

AngeL06_Legion reporting for duty. Meow Meow! dust still the best. i missed that game.

[@rogermora2769]

Pretty excited for this.

[@shtml54]

The whole game takes place on a rock.

[@pgraiders272]

Played dust 514 on the ps3 back in the day. I played it so much even tho it was limited by demo because i didn't have money and wanted to play more but seeing it go sucks. I was shocked to see eve trying again to say the least

[@100pwndragons]

I need Dust 514 to come back. I've never seen another game like it.

[@fcfdroid]

Put some respect on Dust514 😤 Best FPS TO DATE!

[@4jup4ter4]

Cool looking, but it's just like every other FPS extraction concept out there.

[@UpcycleShoesKai]

Will this be in John Wick,

[@austintrain1314]

Underrated comment.

[@tect0nicssb]

Let's hope so

[@Sinsanatis]

ah welp. lost me at extraction shooter. looked cool

[@MedinnaPlay]

I remember playing Dust 514 and having such a harsh tjme playing it. I simply couldnt kill anyone and kept dying a lot 😅

[@dorjedriftwood2731]

So we get a famas with mods. Not the most impressive weapon design.

[@PlacingRed]

It's built around the Eve Online universe, but it's not integrated into Eve Online. Eve online players want to play Eve Online. They are not going to stop playing Eve Online, the game they love to play, to play a whole other type of game, just because it's in the Eve Universe. If Eve online players wanted to play an extraction shooter, well then they would be playing an extraction shooter and not Eve Online. The game needs some kind of integration into the actual Eve Online economy or don't bother.

[@M33t3y]

i hope that they bring back suits, i want my calmando back

[@Drunkendrakon]

You only get 2 guns?

[@steeltraditionalart]

Hope they bring Heavies back with the HMG and don't need it out of existence 😂

[@pigace2150]

will this work on mac os?

[@EatMoreB8con]

Heavy destiny / halo vibes

[@stonergames]

Looks like they're finally about to dust off Dust 514 off the shelf...😏☕💁🏽

[@Pharaoh_The_Great]

So it’s like the cycle frontier… nice

[@Zetler]

There’s a shit ton of extraction shooters out there. Unless they leverage their player base somehow, it’ll be a ghost town.

[@nickshv8727]

Just wait.. We're waiting for the same thing since dust514... We'll get it soon.. 10y max

[@DanPyjamas]

Another game lost to the extraction shooter genre. Nothing wrong with it, it's just not for me. Certainly feels like there are fewer games I want to play though

[@DROID.MICHAELS]

They should have just made a massive update of DUST with UE5 makes way more sense plus there would already be a community

[@friendlygamergang4293]

The thing is that DUST closed because the playerbase was too small. You can argue that it's because of reason X or reason Y, but that's why it closed. So them just bringing it back for that small playerbase wouldn't make sense. They're trying to reach a bigger playerbase, one that warrants its development cost.

[@RaidenLimbSlicer]

so, helldivers in first person?

[@thechosenone6156]

Dust 514 was great all it needed was time

[@chrisanderson7820]

I am unsure how any amount of rose-coloured glasses could say that Dust514 was a decent game, it was utterly busted in almost every way, from lag to hit collision to insane bugs and a broken economy model. I REALLY gave a good solid go and it was just terrible.

[@austintrain1314]

It was a fantastic game. Steep learning curve, though. (And yeah, some pretty terrible performance issues too).

[@netrombm2815]

Felt like a watched a add for something i don's care about. But love LevelCap so we watch annyways

[@angeldu5t922]

Should have just ported dust and upgraded as you go like Eve

[@ThePyroRussian]

I played it the day it became available for about 2-3 hours. went 50 0 logged out. randomly remembered oh yeah it exists. searched everywhere to see if anything new. looks the same as day one. like I don't think the devs are living in reality. like okay you want make an extraction shooter the most competitive genre out there and you also want do 15$/month sub model. in the year Helldivers 2 comes out. I don't know about everyone else but games is where I am penny pinching.

[@phlatz]

Another extraction shooter😩

[@ViperXSS2]

This video needs more views. As someone who plays eve still and has now for 17 years, the failure of dust was sad, but needed. It allowed ccp to fix a lot of stuff related to the Eve universe. Now is the best time to launch a new shooter. I hope many people try it.

[@owentheoutlaw_]

So Cycle Frontier on steroids!

[@smokeyb71]

It looks cool but you lost me when you said extraction shooter. I hear that too often nowadays. 😂

[@katamarankatamaranovich9986]

I mean, I like exatraction shooters, but bigger and better Duat 514 on Pc would have been more unique and preferable.

[@ArilMaven]

I like Extraction games.....but this doesnt fit the Eve Universe. They should have stuck with Planetside/Battlefield style gameplay. We really need a game to fill the void by no new Battlefield 2043. Large scale battles, Orbital ships to call in reinforcements. I briefly tried Dust and only vaguely remember it being similar to Killzone, which I liked, so they should build on that and make a 128 player Battlefield style game set in the Eve Universe

[@frosty9219]

Is anyone else tired of hearing interesting concepts for games just for them to be an extraction shooter?

[@NY-Vice]

This game doesn't look bad but I don't see anything that seems unique or special. Looks like the type of game you play for a few weeks then never again, like so many other games.

[@CrownHetman]

Although i understand FPS, why only focus on one genre? CCP could spread out to other genres and expand EVE presence in gaming overall.

[@AcheliusDecimus]

I would rather play The First Decendant over this, it seems slow, and I love how fast TFD combat is so far.

[@doomslayerforever2858]

N Ot paying monthly

[@grim1757]

i just want dust 514 back

[@locke03]

Hopefully this time CCP doesn't do something moronic like make it a console exclusive. I was an active Eve player back in 2009 and was really looking forward to Dust 514, as was the rest of the corp I was in. It later being reveled to be a PS3 exclusive killed basically all interest we had it in since we were all PC players and as far as I know none of them ever even tried it when it launched.

[@Unknown_Genius]

Nah, it'll release on Windows. But we knew back then that Dust would be PS3 exclusive long beforehand tho, as they always said that we'll be able to transport console players to their operations on the ground as well as delivering ressources. And I'm kinda glad that they never fully implemented all those "crossplay" features they wanted (like the transportation), it would've killed Dust within 2 days of its release if half of your playtime is sitting in a loading bay or something and waiting for someone to fly you 20 jumps to the next planet, or at best wait even more because it's in low sec and no one wants to fly there/they get shot down, at best with only one team getting ressource supplies by a huge corp gate keeping.

[@TheApostate-d3v]

...so wait its just an extraction shooter?

[@trowabarden]

i kinda hope there will be a pure pve version i have friends who dont like pvp

[@cybercobras5083]

CYBER COBRAS ICE-9 PROJECT

[@0008loser]

Im goin to watch to the end but god i hope it isn't an extraction shooter

[@fev3rd]

Dust 514 ran for 6 years as a beta

[@FriscoFatseas]

They aren’t going the route of Dust514 so nobody cares

[@ezikiel121212]

Tested it a few months back, it was terribly clunky.

[@PedrovoriskAB]

Would be great if you could play Eve online and when you go inside a planet, you get into one of these raids.. and get resources if u get out alive, so it would be actually an expansion to even online.. just the game being another gamedoesn't interest me.

[@HellsProphecy]

It could be cool. But what is the current obsession with extraction shooters? It feels like the battle royale trend all over again. Like the market is too saturated right now.

[@gainsgamingginger2177]

Ayo... it's Dust