Levi-Strauss and Structuralism

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If that were true, Michael would prefer to donate money rather than speak words to serve well. Not saying money isn’t powerful or is secondary; but he is a public speaker, right? Saying it’s more powerful is a stretch🤣

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[@harryburganjr.969]

@@philosoraptorautisticI think Peter Singer would like to have a word tho lol. (Also, most praxis-oriented philosophers like James, Marx, etc.)

[@FreeIranRenaissance]

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[@StarboyXL9]

I am afraid this man has passed on.

[@dr.michaelsugrue]

Not completely.

[@MarcosElMalo2]

Congratulations on your accomplishments! I mean both your recovery and your learning a language are noteworthy personal achievements. This lecture will be of particular interest to you. I’ve found reading de Saussure particularly useful in learning Spanish, especially when wrestling with false cognates on one hand, and shades of meaning on another. If you find the Structuralism of Levi-Strauss interesting, have a look at Roland Barthes, who wrote about semiotic systems (some quite prosaic). If the Structures of Myth is of interest, you might read Mircea Eliade. Sugrue (in my limited exposure) is a great synthesizer. The material he is covering here is material I encountered in varied courses at university in the 80s. I encountered de Saussure in a linguistics class. Levi-Strauss appeared in an anthropology course. The writings of Mircea Eliade and Roland Barthes (and again Levi-Strauss) were course material in a Religious Studies class. I wish I had Dr. Sugrue to tie together this seemingly diverse material.

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@@dr.michaelsugrue Oh? I thought the good Dr. was no longer with us. Are meetings possible?

[@FreeIranRenaissance]

@@dr.michaelsugrue ❤️ there is a lecture about Marcus Aurelius, I have been listening to this particular lecture over and over since 2018! I believe I have had to listen to this at least 3/times a week, and I had listened to it some time over. I love to learn, I love honesty and I Love to love, yet people do not take it in a way that I feel comfortable choosing a role in society! If I have to shake the world to be able live as an honest man, consider the world shaken already! The reason I promised to see you one day, is my discourses over Power, Christianity, The shadow beyond the republic! Thank you! Please published that Parmandeies Lecture with the same old video with those slides about mentalism and naturalism! Love ❤️ and one last request, please do not ever delete any of your videos ever again . 🙏

[@historicusjoe121]

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[@askmitch]

There's a playlist on KZbin with all these lectures. There are more from other lecturers too

[@thattimestampguy]

2:12 Mathematics 🧮 2:50 Urschtuff - Underlying Facts/Formations, Universally Accessible 5:28 Structured Symbols 6:02 Linguistics, Speech Acts, Grammar and Syntax - Quasi Mathematics 7:22 _The Course In General Linguistics_ How do they structure their speech? 8:24 Kinship, Tablemanners 8:44 Similar to Freud and Marx • Content • Form 10:56 Piaget •forms Whole integrity 12:12 • self-regulating, Self-Contained Whole 13:43 common Orshtoff 14:39 English and French 15:30 Pigs 🐷 Across Cultures • Serves A Function 17:10 Inedible 18:17 Cuisine, Table Manners 18:55 A Priori “The way in which we …..” 19:49 What is a dog? 🐶 20:28 Speech • Games • Content • Structure/Rules • Code 22:25 Cultural Rules formalize our lives experience • What is the underlying substrata of all cultures? 24:37 Mathematize Permutations 26:38 Symbolic Structures: Meals 28:18 Wedding Rituals 💒 29:07 Chocolate and Jelly Sandwiches *Cultural Relativism* 32:18 We are not fully cut off from savages 32:40 Noble Savage What’s the best grammar? Tell me first, what’s the best purpose? 34:14 Totemism 35:42 Myths are deep structure 36:58 Brick Olage 37:25 Regularly Recurring Myth 40:22 Science is kind of Mythology 41:13 Cultural Relativism is internally incoherent 42:02 The Opposites/Inverses 42:35 When did Structures start? 43:25 A New Interesting Lens through viewing Culture 44:12 Other Minds, Other Cultures 45:11 Hermenutics

[@stuarthicks2696]

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[@JR-nr5rr]

Legend. Thank you.

[@vum2560]

A good human being 👍

[@jacobot500]

Is that the word, Urschtuff? I can't find a translation or anything.

[@phantomboy4166]

@@jacobot500 it's ursrtoff and it means primary matter

[@TheVicenteSilva]

Thank you for these lectures!

[@mutabazimichael8404]

Every time this Guy talks about a thinker he mentions at least 3 or 4 of his books, he talks about them and the characters as a person who must have spend a considerable amount of time trying to approach to the utmost what the writer how he thought, to have done that kind of research on such a wide number of thinkers is remarkable and deserving of high respect 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@epic6434]

Yeah that's a lot of psychology or babel to digest but he seems to pour it out frantically in this lecture when in most of his lectures he seems more comfortable unless I missed more than the few listened too there's so many lectures it's like having to seize the moment then walk away because it could stay with like the flu coughing and sneezing this and that in social gathering could alienate you from the commonality of the group and atmosphere just thought that would help avoid any confusion about devouring more than a fixed source of literature.

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I've watched this video for 3rd times and still enjoy every sentence of it. thank you for such illuminating work.

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I am extremely grateful for your uploads sir. I wish your recently recorded one had the same audio quality. You have introduced me to the Western philosophy like I am an 8 year old.

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I have been devouring the content on this channel for the last couple of weeks since finding it and I’m just really glad that new material is being uploaded with such regularity. Thank you for these, they’re just excellent.

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Seconded - I am devouring too - great introduction to philosophy for formal and informal students

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Best philosophy lecturer....ever I guess lol. Best I've seen

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Seconded...

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[@mutabazimichael8404]

How great that I fall upon this lecture video on week before reading "Structural anthropology" by Lévi-Strauss.

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[@jbr4gg]

Amazing! Levi-Strauss lecture was implied in one of your videos I watched last year and I regretted that it wasn't posted. Thanks for uploading!

[@zhengyangwu8289]

Great as usual. The best thing with prof. Sugrue´s lectures is that he can connect different theories. It is impossiblw without great knowledge.

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[@orthostice]

Crazy, I just started reading Myth and Meaning today. Thank you!!

[@NR-110]

This is a wonderfully lucid lecture - fantastic.

[@stuarthicks2696]

I love semiotics and structuralism and deconstruction and just tracing how one idea spurned on the next. Ultimately not a fan of most of where these 💡 have led politically today but like the evolution of thought. This lecture gives me an appreciation of the wider scope Saussure and his followers were aiming for. Parmenedian oneness or wholeness as I think he puts it.

[@TreeintheQuad]

I personally like Magliolia’s take on Derrida, which is to say that Derrida went deep into the philosophical tradition in order to understand and expound its inadequacy. The missing element is when people read Derrida and assume they don’t have to learn the tradition themselves because “Derrida said it was bullshit”.

[@BioChemistryWizard]

The Frankfurt school was much more of a disaster than anthropological structuralism tbh.

[@maxnul]

Literally was rewatching the Ayer lecture jajaja this is insane!!!

[@luladebaser]

This is so freaking amazing. Thank you for uploading it!!

[@brianmunoz1918]

Such a beautiful way of exploring the ideas of Levi-Strauss

[@AsifKhan-bv3iu]

Fantastic presentation

[@danielcryderman7400]

This lecture is jam-packed!

[@L0g1ja]

Dust is the starting point of Honey and the end point of Tobacco. Honey is produced out of dust (polen from flowers), tobacco produces dust (ashes). In the context (structure) of dust, they are opposite.

[@dr.michaelsugrue]

That is a very clever idea. I never thought of it and you may be right. My only uncertainty lies in the fact that bread, for example is produced out of flour, which is also "dusty".

[@101......]

@@dr.michaelsugrue Maybe, it's just an analogical example out of many, where "Dust" is that underlying substratum? For instance, [ Bread ] is the opposite of [ Bones ]. Just like the professor said, structures not contents. Though still it poses a question between "The nature of dust" and "the characteristics of dust", both the differences and similarities.

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You are a fantastic professor.

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Thanks for all your lectures Sir

[@bhushanyadav7059]

Outstanding lecture

[@kickywicky4616]

Just a note: de Saussure didn't write the Cours; it was compiled from student notes on his lectures.

[@j.k.cascade2057]

Professor Sugrues passing is a tragedy. I feel now that the world has become a lesser place.

[@moil6384]

thanks for all these. keep posting them please!

[@cheri238]

Amazing lecture!!❤

[@erumkhan6296]

Fantastic lecture.

[@davidconroy8554]

I could say so much more on this subject but I think I'll listen to your lecture on Gadamer first.

[@Hung-er6eh]

19:49 everyone: a dog is an animal Levi-Strauss: a dog is a noun

[@xxcrysad3000xx]

Any chance of a lecture on the political thought of Leo Strauss? I doubt he'd be in this series but perhaps you have something somewhere or you could perhaps give some of your thoughts in a livestream one day.

[@charlesedwardandrewlincoln8181]

I absolutely loved this lecture! Thank you!

[@xalian17]

I once heard that all of Western Philosophy is merely the dialogue between Plato and Aristotle with Nietzsche trying to interrupt the conversation -- everything else is merely footnotes. After listening to all these lectures, its hard not to believe that line is the only universally true statement in philosophy.

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Classic lectures live aaaaawwww yeaaahh

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Thank you. Love these.

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Thank You!

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Remember of Stoicon! 🙂

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@@agaanim5898 Oh I haven't forgotten! 😄 I see it's scheduled for Saturday, Oct 15th this year. I don't see a location listed yet. Do they stream any events online do you know?

[@agaanim5898]

@@ryans3001 oh, sorry I am not sure. They did during covid… but I guess that’s due to the entire event being virtual.

[@briandzwoniarek8952]

33 to 34 which language is the better language? Aesthetically, we could agree that some are more pleasant to the ear than others.

[@angelolopez8720]

Babe wake up, Michael Sugrue just posted

[@rufinlooks6956]

My dumbass was waiting for Jeans to come into the discussion for the first 5 minutes.

[@dhannivanda]

If I remember correctly, as per Marvin Harris, the fx. Of the proscription of cow slaughter in India was the use of poop for fuel,fertilizer, cleaning and antiseptic (believe it or not).

[@iwonder6221]

Yes sir just what we wanted

[@firstal3799]

Good lecture

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[@evo1ov3]

Lol ikr

[@MarcosElMalo2]

“I’ll bring the chocolate and jelly sandwiches”

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Amazing!

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Amazing

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Let’s gooooo yeah!!!

[@joseph8298]

Brilliant!

[@mini_worx]

This was only posted 5hrs ago. I'm giggling. 👍👍👍

[@henryburby6077]

My question for the structural anthropologists is, what is the value of discovering these substeuctural details if we cannot reach the final ultimate structure which ties them all togeather. Without this final piece, what is the point?

[@saikat-ps100]

India, although containing multiple cultures within it, all the individual subcultures are heavily dependent on milk produce, and the ox was also used for agriculutre. However eating the cow can solve immediate food shortages, but keeping the cow and ox alive can sustain a family for a longer time. So, the functionalist arguement can make some sense? Thoughts?

[@jean8884]

These classes are wonderful. If you don't mind me asking, can we expect something about homo ludens to come up at some point?

[@JuanGonzalezZzZzZz...]

I recommend you all to read Dosse's History of Structuralism volume I & II

[@voyagersa22]

Thank you 😊

[@mentalitydesignvideo]

I want to go into a little bit more detail why I think Strauss created pseudoscience: imagine a "structuralist" mineralogist. He looks around (like a functionalist) and constructs a minimal table of what possible minerals there could be: sand, granite, boxite clay. Obviously all minerals can only be permutations of these three. Malinowski goes to Trobriand Islands and discovers gneiss. Or better yet, volcanic sulfur. Well, structuralist is unphased: sulfur is just sand, but with some quality of clay and firm almost like granite. Just like psychoanalysis, structuralism is not "incorrect", it's simply can never be wrong. There is no procedure that could ever prove something untrue within structuralism.

[@fixthisdog]

Did you ever talk about Carl Jung? I would love to hear your thoughts.

[@KnightsAndDarths]

Man I feel for his students back then, trying to concentrate on the lecture rather than the man himself, I'd be too distracted by inappropriate thoughts 😍

[@theponderingplumb9790]

“Honey, a new Sugrue lecture just dropped”

[@reneperez2126]

the guy is a beast ...

[@kikupanchi]

What's that phrase he uses at around 2:50? Sounds like orshstuff and comes up on captions as ursh stuff but I've googled it and nothing is coming up

[@dr.michaelsugrue]

Urstoff = primary matter

[@MarcosElMalo2]

ur = original stoff = stuff

[@molotiv]

Ty Mike!

[@daylamianfernandezdecastro5273]

thanks

[@potrahead]

15:05 Yes, but I would like to add positivism to the empirical.

[@DieselWeazel]

I’m listening to this one a second time.

[@japedant1717]

You should have titled it "Claude Lévi-Strauss" so that nobody would confuse with Levi's jeans.

[@MarcosElMalo2]

At least include the hyphen, right? I don’t know if the idea was original, but in a university literary magazine someone wrote a tongue-in-cheek essay about the “501 Code”. Which buttons or combinations of buttons were unfastened signified different things about the jeans wearer. So there is your cross over between Levi Strauss and Claude Levi-Strauss.

[@turbanheadless]

😂😂😂

[@eoinmacmahon8827]

Bloody right! It was minute 42 before I figured that maybe this Sugrue guy wasn’t talking about jeans.

[@LIsa_Shi]

Is that some American joke

[@SinkLikeStone]

@@LIsa_Shitry google levi struss

[@drbonesshow1]

The sound is not in-sync with the video.

[@culturecrossingwithshawn2681]

Chocolate and Jelly Sandwiches!!! Love it man!!! 😁

[@sabyasachisenapati3619]

14:35 he says " we move from the city to the man ", i guess. But should not it be the other way round meaning from the man to the city.

[@fraserlawrie5084]

Fantastic lecture, thank you. What was the recommended Piaget book?

[@mikesugruv5991]

"Structuralism"

[@rileymckenzie6276]

i was anticipating a lecture about blue jeans

[@MrMikkyn]

Dugin introduced me to Levi Strauss

[@jasminekaur7949]

​there seems to be an issue with the audio sync

[@BaronM]

Only seems to happen to me when it first debuts. You'll figure it out.

[@matt2993]

Yooo I'm gonna get fuckin loaded next weekend and dive into this. Bout to hit up the boys

[@davidspivak8343]

2:58, Sounds like category theory to me., "connect these structures, structurally one might imagine, to find a larger structure. This large structure of structures will be the structure of human existence itself in a sort of logical algebraic form". Pretty close!

[@MarcosElMalo2]

What came first? Levi-Strauss was developing his ideas in the 40s and 50s, and published his first work on structural anthropology in 1959. Category theory came out in the mid 40s? But Levi-Strauss was explicitly drawing from the ideas of de Saussure, who gave his Course in General Linguistics in 1911! I know very little about Category Theory, other than the vague notion that it’s related to topology, perhaps a sub-branch. On a related note, I recently discovered how to remove a shirt while wearing overalls, without unhooking the overall’s straps. I was proud of this achievement in practical topology, and spent the next few hours demonstrating it to anyone willing to watch.

[@davidspivak8343]

@@MarcosElMalo2 The ideas of category theory came out of algebraic topology, but it's really a theory of mathematical structures themselves (and how they relate) more than a branch of anything else. It's about how the different branches of math relate to each other.

[@davidconroy8554]

That was interesting, as a species we are terrific at writing narratives, aren't we? I wrote one yesterday in relation to an individual that I labeled as co-dependent. I'm not a fan of such labels but in this case it was necessary to be able to write the narrative. I wrote a whole description of his behaviour and how looking after me was like trauma bonding, it gave him reason to think about someone else besides himself for a change. How people need to feel valued and keeping me dependent on him ensured his value. A whole narrative on his thoughts and actions but the truth is that he doesn't think at all. But I took the narrative and related it to another co-dependent so that he might think, but to be honest, I don't think he will, he will just consider himself more knowledgeable about human behaviour.

[@casteretpollux]

O.k. beginner here but this sounds like Plato except that Plato had a healthy disrespect for writing. What I know so far is that there are two great schools of philosophy - materialism and idealism. Structuralism is idealist, yes? So why did people retreat from science to quasi religious idealism?

[@JB-ru4fr]

Aw, I thought it was about Leo Strauss! I’d like to hesr the professor on him.

[@franciskm4144]

Good 🎉🎉🎉

[@thomasoverlund5373]

When did this lecture happen?

[@mrbreeze9116]

Makes me think I may not know the grammar of my culture, or perhaps the grammar is breaking down and no longer exists

[@jackanderson719]

So cows can't be eaten in India. I understand it's for religus reasons but is power and fear a factor to? Did a person in a position of power decide this for whatever reason?

[@MarcosElMalo2]

That wasn’t the point at all of Claude Levi-Strauss’s work. I think you’re looking for some other lecture.

[@daithiocinnsealach1982]

Why can't I order dog in Ireland? In fact I might go to jail for selling dog meat and be labelled an immoral monster. Yet I can abort my unborn children on a whim and be classed brave for such an action. I find it ridiculous how those who scream against power structures are so deeply entremched in them themselves. They cannot see their own dogma and blindly assume it is not dogma but self evident reality.

[@johncracker5217]

What is that word the professor uses “orschtuff” I can’t find anything on Google spelling it that way.

[@MarcosElMalo2]

ur-stuff ur meaning original. In this context, he’s talking about the structure underlying cultural structures-the structure of the human mind.

[@johncracker5217]

@@MarcosElMalo2 thank you

[@tkmonson]

Urstoff - primary matter

[@OnerousEthic]

Leo or Levi? Are we talking about the philosopher or the guy who created blue jeans? I have yet to listen, but my favorite factoid about Leo Strauss is his claim that the ancients, and the Moderns, and everyone in between were not free to be truthful and honest in their writing, and us we must read between the lines to understand the true intention and meeting.

[@daithiocinnsealach1982]

The mushrooms showed me all of this. The Bible is a book on human psychology. Its truths are not metaphysical and absolute, but psychological and relative.

[@dilciaalvarezcrespo]

He’s talking faster today!

[@limachowdhury143]

what's the word @2:52 ??

[@Garethprice1979]

Urstoff which is German for fundamental, original material or fabric

[@sanduceroable]

... science is a kind of mythology... Big time, big effect by the intensification of the measurable and visualizable. Examoles: Driving is making a movie, I'm the camera-driver, the highway is an action movie. The net submerges us in a permanent scuba-driving trip, no lsd or cannabis necessary. Humanity became the sexual organ of the artifact world, we are tools of our tools. Thank you!!!

[@jwallguitar]

Can you please start selling Dr Sugrue Bobbleheads? I’d buy 3.

[@DanWilan]

Great lecture Professor, I say humans structure everything they see, they love the grammar around sin, not the truth nor the morality itself! For example the details around the Royal Families or the church! Otherwise they were vegans and pro lgbt

[@guynouri]

Limited Cartesian

[@outofbox000]

My loveeeee

[@sameo-]

thanks! 🤯 what a time to have lived through the colonization of the internet and backwardly filling in blanks. 🙊