We are definitely living in a simulation | Roman Yampolskiy and Lex Fridman

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[@servicingiq]

Breadcrumb: Visually provable, there are 2 spaces, all matter binds to the 1st Space, and is a modality of it. Therefore your existence is based on the modalities of the two spaces. Visually provable, why don’t you challenge my Breadcrumb, if you know what a Breadcrumb is. My Comments go back to 2012. End of Line

[@servicingiq]

Which Means the MOL equation description is False. And Radio active is merely a compression shell collapsing and you think its a beta particle when its a decay arch of the dielectric and the collapse of the compression shell finding MASTER GROUND. End of Line

[@c0wb0y.crypt0]

100% We are living in a simulation, but the interpretation of what that means is incorrect... Most believe that it means we live inside of a foundationally computational universe, and that because of as much then there are layers to this... Much like how the turtles go all the way down... Which reveals something... It's not the concept of being in a simulation that matters. It's the perceptive framing of what a simulation is, that matters. As it stands right now? We've got such a low resolution understanding of what this idea even is, that it would be comparable to the advent of societal literacy. Without mass societal literacy, we would literally live inside of a completely different reality, not just how it is perceived in an historical standpoint from the future as we stand now, but also how they would to perceive us. What we would call a smart phone, they would call a magical book... What was originally called the Eletrical Arc Lamp, later became known as the Light Bulb! This framing of perception, with and without in depth understanding pops up all over humanity, and it takes some fairly foundational level probing, during an encounter with a fairly novel idea, in order to reveal the construct's different facets. This is the exact process of analysis required during investigation, when attempting to reveal the truth. That process of investigation, relative to the idea of our universe being a simulation, is elementary at best, and because of as much, makes it appear more outlandish than it actually is... IE : It's turtles all the way down... OR -- IE : We are living in a game

[@gonzogeier]

I think the double-slit experiment is the first glitch in the matrix! 😊

[@nutbutter1374]

Watch the movie The Thirteenth Floor

[@Bropes]

The problem with the “we exist at the most interesting time in history” theory is that every other group before us thought the exact same shit 😂

[@captainjack--]

Yup. I thought the 80's were a lot more interesting 🙂

[@masonkim7]

talk about recency bias

[@Hickzy]

Were they technically wrong?

[@brianbagnall3029]

@@captainjack-- The 80's was a blast when the US was at the top of every metric. It's all been downhill since then. Probably because companies and universities were forced to hire people who weren't the best.

[@iKoper]

@@brianbagnall3029 Wrong

[@GroundbreakGames]

From the looks of things, I am guessing our current simulation was created by Ubisoft.

[@scroopynooperz9051]

That certainly would explain all the flaws and the built in politician loot boxes, wouldnt it

[@jpage505]

FACTS

[@AdamWeatherall]

Pay to play

[@Mothyone]

Explains the balance bar being shit...

[@mattressfour20]

What a call!! You win the internet today.

[@tylerhardman]

guys its not that hard just shove your face into the corner and keep jumping until you glitch through might need to stand on a crate or something while you do it, but persistence is key

[@PaulSimonMcCarthy-fu6ms]

I think this is underrated.

[@-Medici]

Challenge accepted.

[@Gordini840]

patched

[@Larimuss]

Nah you gotta find the right map glitches. It's only works on some some maps

[@AadZwaan]

That worked on the beta release. It still works in this version but the corner needs to be at exactly 500 feet below salt ocean water, while under precisely 220 pounds of pressure per square inch, oh and you must be upside down.

[@TimJohnston911]

My simulation story: I was a psychology major in college, and in this class I was in we were learning about the simplest form of learning called habituation, which is when we learn to ignore certain stimuli in our environment such as the hum of an air conditioner. As the professor explained the concept I thought to myself “Oh, it’s like if you’re watching Jeopardy on TV while a train is going past your house and you’re like ‘Who is George Washington?’ without even noticing the train.” And then as soon as I finished my thought the professor said “It’s like you’re watching Jeopardy on TV while a train is going past your house and you’re like ‘Who is George Washington?’ without even noticing the train.”

[@alexsetterington3142]

I was sitting in the Hollywood Hawaiian hotel, listening to the airconditioner hum, it went mm mm mmm m mm m mmmm

[@DirkShotojima]

Pics or it didn't happen!

[@drfreebs]

I was talking about owls the other with my pal in a pub in town. We left the pub and a woman was walking down the street with her pet owl

[@anvilbrunner.2013]

@@drfreebs Did you speak to the woman with her pet owl ?

[@Furryloon2]

I was going to give your reply a like, but there were 42 at the time. Couldn't bring myself to do it. (At the time) 😅

[@HAL-vu8ef]

I had an experience that made me think we are in a simulation: back in the 1990’s everyday at work I would get my lunch from a local shop next to a busy road. One day a second hand bookshop opened up on the other side, it looked interesting but the road was so busy and my lunch break so short that I didn’t bother for a few weeks. Then while sitting at work one morning I had a sudden impulse to own a book about the 1962 Ferrari 250GTO, not entirely sure why, just a sudden urge. Being very particular about what kind of books I like I imagined it would be of a certain size, design and technicality (I am very fussy). So during my lunch break I made my way to the second hand bookshop, it was pretty disappointing, mostly the kind of stuff that people don’t want anymore like old Lonely Planets and Guinness World record books etc. Anyway, I made my way to the Motorsport section which was just one small shelf of about twenty books. There I was struck to see the spine of a book saying Ferrari 250GTO, a perfect size, hardback. I took it down and the front cover was exactly to my taste so I opened it up to a random page feeling very lucky. The first page I opened, in bold print at the top of a paragraph was my full name, spelled the same. I started laughing to myself because it felt just too odd. I have an uncommon name, if I check on Facebook now it comes up with less than 30 people worldwide. Apparently, according to the book, there was a chief Ferrari mechanic in the Le Mans 24 hour races in the 1960’s with the same name. What are the odds that I would have a random thought to buy a special interest book, that was to my taste, in stock across the street and the first page I turn to has my name. Pretty weird. I always felt it was some kind of Easter egg just to hint that life was not what it seemed.

[@SurfsUp993]

This type of thing happens to me weekly - with varying specificity.

[@ialsiuri]

And what is your name? 😅

[@imnotjacob.]

Hi Franco. It's you.

[@techstuff3409]

@@SurfsUp993 yep also to me, especially when i do some research on simulation theory. but why would an advanced civilization simulate our world its pointless.. so i go back to the option number 2 that is consciousness fundamental and we are little portions of an infinite consciousness and it is doing all of this. Consciousness is not a computation so this makes more sense.

[@chrisc9725]

Awesome, I've had similar events happen to me for years and still do. I find it quite normal now, because I understand that my mind is not in my brain, it is everywhere and connected to infinite intelligence. Infact I am just a concept in this mind projecting a reality that I believe is true. What I have realised and accepted is that these events don't necessarily have any particular meaning and can be random, but sometimes they show us the way or reveal very important information or help us about what needs to be done in that moment. But the moment can pass if one doesn't act, so the event would become meaningless and just another random event in the past. Everyone has access to the infinite intelligence if they can navigate out of the deep forest of ignorance and heavy attachment to emotions.

[@anthonymichaels257]

Outside of the simulation, Lex wears tracksuits

[@johndoe8785]

A lime green track suit with white new balance shoes. He also smokes extremely cheap cigars and wears a knockoff Rolex. Drives a 1998 Mercedes with 300 thousand miles, it has 4 different rims.

[@Sammasambuddha]

In an alternative simulation, he goes by Niko Bellic.

[@jonp3890]

Incorrect. Outside the simulation, he is the third Blues Brother.

[@Epiphany_nz]

Guess what he wears when training Jujitsu...

[@shaner67]

You guys are friggin hilarious.. Down the rabbit hole we go.. Great comments peoples 👍

[@SgtRandoni]

Lex: Can we escape this sim? Me: I can't even escape youtube.

[@Janiacster]

Hilarious

[@syipxx]

😂😂

[@alf3071]

yea they haven't modelled the rest these are the boundaries

[@InnovativeSaint]

The desire to “escape the sim” is a nihilistic gnostic interpretation of the universe, the idea that the material world is completely evil and that we should, for lack of a better term, terminate our pregnancy.

[@MrLockitintight]

If the simulation we live in is someone else's form of escapism...then imagine for a moment how bad theirs must be!

[@clutchoholic6550]

It’s your form of escapism. It’s you, but you can’t remember. Because you’re in here.

[@fourfrogzzz]

It's all perspective. Their reality is probably unlike ours. It's naive to assume our feelings of discomfort or satisfaction wouldn't be enjoyable to someone, especially someone in a completely different reality from us lol. Alan Watts has a good story about this called "The Dream Of Life". In short, if you were god alone for eternity and could dream of any situation and live it, eventually after living billions of lifetimes, you'd end up on you. There is always a perspective from which someone would want to live your life.

[@olsonspeed]

If life is a simulation... I want my money back.

[@theschmedaparadox1018]

Would you say that if we we're alle living in treehouses? I doubt it.

[@olsonspeed]

@@theschmedaparadox1018 What if you lived in a abandoned school bus?

[@LeonGaban]

We are all NPCs

[@zarinjanis]

​@@LeonGabanspeak for yourself

[@akuma2892]

Lmao.. refund please. Edit: I would give all that I have over and over again to experience the 1920's... or, honestly, anything else besides this artificial existence that we so call "life" currently in 2024. Could give a fuck about pain and suffering... I want to feel it and make sense. I want to experience the raw, the truth... and grow. That is how we evolve and become stronger. When we are forced to step up out of our known boundaries...

[@jleo8656]

"Once upon a time I dreamed I was a butterfly, fluttering hither and thither, to all intents and purposes a butterfly. I was conscious only of my happiness as a butterfly, unaware that I was myself. Soon I awakened, and there I was, veritably myself again. Now I do not know whether I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or whether I am now a butterfly, dreaming I am a man." ~Zhuangzi @ 4th century BCE

[@Mr_Case_Time]

Taking a more literal view of this great quote, I truly think that if we are in some sort of simulation, dreaming is like a dolphin coming up for a breath.

[@Hendoggy909]

Why are they called butterfly's? They should be flutterbys

[@turtlesallthewaydown8831]

“Am I a butterfly dreaming I’m a man? I drove here.” Jimmy Carr

[@alexisk8312]

I think this leans more towards what you consider consciousness.

[@user-jx8qh4gy1f]

Reality isn't a simulation like a computer one. It is like a sleeping dream. We are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively in this dream reality

[@capndallas4918]

Please can you explain more

[@user-jx8qh4gy1f]

@@capndallas4918 just like the world and people in your sleeping dreams are your own consciousness experience itself subject, so is your waking reality. It's all a dream. We are all one non physical consciousness

[@-Medici]

Exactly. Basically we are all talking to ourselves. Well, different "incarnations"/perspectives of the same consciousness, to be precise.

[@patrickday4206]

No we are just in hypersleep in between galaxies

[@funghoul9124]

@@user-jx8qh4gy1f so when we say "go fuck yourself" we mean us?

[@WhiteHorseBlackHat]

The scariest thing to me about the simulation theory is the love I have for my kids. If I found out I had the chance to escape but they would no longer be a part of my life… then I know I could never make that choice to leave.

[@byamboy]

you would just have to wait for them to slip out of it as well, would take no longer than 80 years on average, which outside might take minutes or instants, or, at the current pace, you'd have to wait just a few years.

[@WILD__THINGS]

You have to define "simulation" first. Very few people do. Everyone just says "simulation" and assumes we are talking about the same thing.

[@stevenpham6734]

damn right! fook dez nurds!

[@Age_of_Apocalypse]

'You have to define "simulation" first.' Very good question! If we're talking about simulating everything around us and about us in a computer like the ones we have, sorry Roman Yampolskiy, we're NOT living in a simulation.

[@benjamink7105]

There is only one simulated being. It is me. After I click out of this window you cease to exist. I apologize.

[@JG27Korny]

True, but this is the faith of religion. Simulation made by God.

[@ghostwalk2446]

​@@benjamink7105Actually if you're "the only one simulated being", then you're "the only one" who ceases to exist

[@simonmacek9009]

My player hates my avatar ...

[@ghostwalk2446]

Lmao seriously, that's how you know it's real life

[@simonmacek9009]

@@ghostwalk2446 I meant tha, the alien that plays me sucks at gaming

[@user-kj6sm1bs9k]

for real they spent all their points in looks and charisma and zero in business

[@simonmacek9009]

@@user-kj6sm1bs9k my guy just stacking up points. Not using them anywhere. Well maybe if akwardnes is a choice.

[@marvinsgardenproduce798]

We are all npcs

[@davidasher22]

Suggesting reality is an artificial simulation, I believe, reflects our digital age's advanced computing and virtual realities. Historically, civilizations have understood existence through their prevailing technologies. Ancient cultures likened life to a grand play or divine dream, while the mechanistic views of the medieval era mirrored the precision of clockwork. Our current fascination with simulations is just the latest way to interpret our reality using the tools of our time.

[@franciscohanna2956]

The same applies for explanations about consciousness, at each period of time we tried to explain it in the terms of the most complex mechanisms we had at the time, the computer brain being on of the latest.

[@davidasher22]

@@franciscohanna2956 Yup! That’s what we do! But it kind of makes sense. We’re always using familiar concepts to understand complex ideas. As new technologies emerge, they reshape how we think about things and how we interact with the world. We tend to view progress as linear, and comparing past ideas to current technologies seems to help reinforce that narrative. It all aligns with the theory of technological determinism, which suggests that technology is the primary driver of society, shaping how we think, behave, and interact.

[@byamboy]

@@davidasher22 this! Isn't it interesting tho that all the past explanations and the current one, based on presumptions coming from philosophy and science instead of religious and cultural, arrive at the same conclusions, like, roughly? Both currents argue for a space outside of reality where other conscious beings will be, maybe able to pull some strings, maybe not. I find this a proof that physical reality isn't the only one. That is comforting and equally terrifying, isn't it?

[@josephyarbrough8275]

Nailed it

[@vanessabahr742]

I don’t understand why no one is referring to all the traditional wisdom that has dealt with these questions for thousands of years. Stepping out of the identification with our material self is called the path to enlightenment and there is a ton of information out there describing the process of developing the consciousness.

[@zebedie2]

whats outside the simulation? A fat guy recabling a datacenter while on the phone getting moaned at by his boss

[@awfulpwn]

A 16 year old playing a video game

[@NicholasLatipi]

The simulation is being generated by hyperspace logic engine known as "The Source" This is the typical revelation during encounters with "clockwork elves". Many psychonauts find the dullness of what "lies behind the curtain" profoundly mundane and found special appreciation of their current existence inside the simulation. Further out are hypers cosmic horrors, like the entity known as "The Mother Goddess", Fractal Jellyfish, Worldeaters, etc.

[@notmyname4261]

A fat guy with a controller brushing the crumbs off his belly

[@1FokkerAce]

😂😂 So true. Makes the Bootes Void a LOT more problematic.

[@WheelBite97]

The funny things is that if we are actually in a simulation (and I am pretty sure they use the word simulation for lack of a better term) then the real world (also calling it the real world for lack of a better term) is completely different from the one we are currently in. The real world might have different laws of physics, time, and space or it may not have them at all. Kind of like when you have a vivid dream where everything is absurdly different from our world that we currently live in, yet not matter how absurd the dream is, the dream feels very real.

[@jeaninehicks2907]

The real world is the spiritual realm. When we die, we wake there.

[@WheelBite97]

@@jeaninehicks2907 I personally believe that actually.

[@m_christine1070]

​@@jeaninehicks2907and i just discovered, thats the foremost theology , observed/practiced/taught by the Christian Science Church. aka Church of Christ, Scientist. Scientist, Church

[@PatchWorm_bore_cleaners]

Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily life is but a dream.

[@flanaj2]

Me and my brother joked about a very esoteric line of dialogue in the film "Titanic" when the antagonist says "look at me you filth!" We laughed at how that line would be funny in a wrestling promo. I specifically said "it's funny because it would never be used in a promo in a million years". That VERY day, we watched a live segment of a wrestler called Dalton Castle say "look at me you filth". Before him, no one has EVER said that in wrestling before. He said it the very day I joked about it being too weird to be used in wrestling. That was odd.

[@Foukez]

That's because you are being watched and someone pay premium to put this in your life and see your reaction.

[@MasterMayhem78]

There’s times that I feel that I realize something so profound but then it’s gone, almost like it was quickly removed. I can never get a fully clear picture but I know what I was about to think was extremely important because I get a sense of calm, which unfortunately is all that I ever remember of the thought.

[@jodywarrington32]

Very interesting. It clearly got me thinking because I always have these moments.

[@jettyd69]

WTH. this is exactly what happens to me! The system obviously doesn't want us to break out

[@natanael.rg7]

Dude, I sometimes experience the same thing. What's even scarier to me is, when I get deja vus. I had a time in my life where I would get deja vus very often and intensly, very weird...

[@zarinjanis]

classic symptoms of NPC

[@MrRubyscube]

Yeah, this has happened to me many times. Especially when I trip on psychedelics. Same thing every time... I break through and experience what my brain tells me is "true reality". Then at the EXACT moment I think that thought, my newfound realization gets wiped and I get "thrown" back down. Almost like hitting some kind of invisible ceiling and being denied access. All I'm left with is a memory of this sense of calm just like you say. Like what is on that plateu is very good and beautiful, but I'm not supposed to get there yet. It has annoyed me so many times. The feeling of getting so close and then instant memory-wipe. It is extremely strange. Just writing about it triggers the memory and I get goosebumps all over my body and a feeling that I am not alone. What is this? :S

[@nathanwood9147]

We are just using modern language to describe the same concepts from ancient religious ideas. A 'simulation' is just a metaphor to describe something metaphysical we don't understand. It's a good analog but likely not entirely accurate.

[@montfort9581]

Exactly!

[@thomasmerton1794]

I came here to say this. For thousands of years, humans have known that the world is just a transportation device to something beyond; paradise, heaven, etc. St Therese said, "The world is thy ship and not thy home."

[@keepconciousnessalive5249]

The ancient Hindus called it maya: and Schopenhauer called it ‘representation’

[@cardboardaficionado]

The difference is the technical reality of a simulation indistinguishable from “reality” is something we can actually imagine not being far away.

[@diazigy]

Yeah what is the functional difference for a person trapped in a simulation or living in a universe created by God's will. At the end of the day, I still have to put on pants, make breakfast go to work, pickup dry cleaning, etc.

[@ChessDownUnder]

When the simulation topic comes up I often ask myself - if we are indeed in a simulation then what is the scope and boundaries of the simulation. For example, is our entire universe simulated, just our solar system, just our planet, or just my life? I have heard different takes on this point - what is the scope of the simulation, what things are simulated "just in time" as we make the observations. The more and more I think, and the more humanity discovers - I feel that the likelihood of a localised simulation (i.e just my life, or just our planet) is highly unlikely. We are constantly making new discoveries in fields such as astronomy, about how the universe formed, how our galaxy formed, etc. The thing with these discoveries is that in general they tend to reinforce each other, they tend to reinforce that what we currently understand about how things went down after the big-bang is somewhat on the right track. Albeit there are some things we still don't understand, i.e if there is a need for Dark Matter and Dark Energy to help balance out some of the observations. If the simulation was somewhat localised (i.e just our planet, just our solar-system) - why would the rest of the observable universe be so consistently accurate in the story that it tells about our past? How could that be? Why did the Earth need to go through "The Boring Billion" phase just to simulate my life? We know that phase happened, we have a lot of archeological evidence. If only our local area needs to be simulated then why is the rest of the observable universe so incredible at obeying our understanding of how it came to be? We have a lot of very strong archeological evidence to track many phases of our evolution as a species, and also the evolution of life during Earth's early periods. Why was any of this necessary - if simply to simulate just one life, or some local type of simulation. That seems extremely unnecessary and unlikely. That is why when I think about this topic - if we are in a simulation, I am more of the mindset that either the entire universe as we know it is part of the simulation - or we are indeed in base reality. The more and more I think about things the more I am a believer that we are in base reality, although I understand why a lot of very intelligent people end up concluding otherwise.

[@F1REBEARD]

Couldn't these archeological evidence be planted there by the creators of the simulation? And I guess it would be easy to emulate that the human race is evolving and doing new discoveries of the past and the universe to narrate your story. But if we really are in a simulation my take is that the whole observable universe is a simulation, which is why we have set rules (speed of light and so on so we can't traverse outside our universe) 🌏

[@seviren]

I understand it as sort of like singularity. The billions of years of endless space aren't an issue. Consider one of the first computers compared to a modern microchip. It's more just a set of parameters that end up with consciousness. I always figured human biology to be too intricate to be thought up, and it had to be just emergent through time... Like who would ever think up lightning in a certain gaseous atmosphere would create amino acids...

[@carrocesta]

I smoked bufo alvarius a couple of years ago, and I experience really strange but powerful things: one was the dissolution of time (very scary for the ego, I was like sweating from the mind) where I felt trapped for eternity (lack of time), and the other was the lack of the sense of space around our vision/mind. The complete space and time is a computation of the mind. For me, this makes a lot of sense, as this is experienced by kids for example. It also explains why conquistadores were so afraid of crossing the Atlantic: that space was not created yet in their minds. My experience was not an allucination, It only removed temporary some computation capabilities from the mind.

[@cylon5741]

Your entry reminded me of the bruja/curandera guide's entreaty in Hamilton's Pharmacopeia *S01E03* Shepherdess: The Story of Salvia Divinorum: ""...May the leaves enlighten him, from here to infinity..."

[@snipasharpshooter]

If we’re a simulation, pls tell me how does a simulated thing escape, when they don’t exist?

[@iGame3D]

For real. It's like they are talking about a PDF document exiting your computer through the modem port and skittering off to live a life in a new reality.

[@Rleeng]

We could gain access to more of the same realm. Like escaping the SIMS game and getting access to the whole internet. Both SIMS and the internet exist digitally but characters in SIMS are artificially restricted. But if it’s a different realm like a human and a PDF File then it’s more complicated possibly impossible.

[@andrewstrakele6815]

Everyone ALREADY exists outside the Simulation in an alternate reality where they are the PLAYERS of their Human Being Avatars inside of the Simulation. It is similar to “The SIMs” video game. In it, you create a character that you play as an Avatar within the game. In reality, you are not that Avatar, you just PLAY that Avatar in the game simulation.

[@LiquidToast12]

@@iGame3D a human consciousness could be copied into a vessel that is outside the simulation in the same way a PDF file is transferred out of a computer and into a USB thumb drive.

[@highlifeproject]

You're already out of the sin, talking about your consciousness, you just need to disconnect from this account

[@neilcreamer8207]

The problem with use of the word simulation is that implies some base reality that's not simulated. That's not necessarily the case. It's more accurate to say that reality might not be what it seems to be.

[@user-vo9cn3ux9f]

What is reality then, in your opinion?

[@neilcreamer8207]

@@user-vo9cn3ux9f It doesn't matter what I think. The problem is presupposing what reality is. There's an entire branch of philosophy on that subject.

[@user-vo9cn3ux9f]

@@neilcreamer8207 well you stated that it’s not necessarily the case that there’s a base reality that is not simulated. I was expecting a further explanation that would support that view.

[@neilcreamer8207]

@@user-vo9cn3ux9f en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysics

[@LIVITLUVIT]

Reality might just be the Simulator ...below the plankland...the levels of programs between the light

[@universalparadoxes2081]

Lex’s discussions come with a guarantee to blow your mind. Always fascinating. Thx for the content.

[@codyraymiller]

I've had many experiences which have led me to believe that we are indeed in a simulation and that it feeds back to us whatever we believe to be reasonable. One was talking to a friend and she mentioned she had been called up for jury duty. A thought popped into my head and I said out loud, "I haven't had jury duty in years; I'm about due for it." Two days later, no exaggeration, I received jury summons in the mail. Another time, I was driving in the car with the windows down. It was late March/early April and I thought to myself, "Wow! I haven't had any seasonal allergies so far this year (I tend to have terrible allergies). I bet it's about time." And my nose started running like a faucet that same day. I had to take an allergy med. I know what most people will say... "Yeah, bud, that's called coincidence." Ok, sure. Maybe. Or, maybe not. I've had other experiences that reinforce my belief in this "feedback loop." The trick is you have to actually, deep down, really believe the thing is likely to happen. If you don't believe it, you can't manifest it and forcing yourself into believing something outrageous is just plain hard. That's why so many people lead lives of quiet desperation. They're trapped in their own cycles of belief...

[@katofmine]

Every single human being that has ever existed, existed in the most important moment for them. it's relative. the present will always be infinitely more important than the abstract past. Some people are just thinking too much about shit sometimes

[@Curious-Mr.-Lee]

Cannabis has some downstream consequences. We apologize for any irritations.

[@Retsy257]

Profound

[@gofai274]

i don't want to even escape i just want ot be nothingness forever existence is pure evil anything exist we have f1cking problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Hogballs]

Correct. All that exists is the present moment. Everything outside the present moment is a simulation of the past or the present. When we in the present moment imagine the future or remember the past, we create a simulation that feels real, but not quite, because it is a simulation of the real and eternal NOW. Escaping the simulation is easy: just stop creating it. Wake up in the NOW.

[@user-bg4em1sz1i]

I think that burgeoning on a technological singularity is just a tad bit different, than what previous generations have expereinced. This is truly unprecedented in human history, and hence is a very strange time to be in.

[@Andyman9279]

Escaping the simulation is what some call enlightenment. Becoming truly pure of heart is the way out. Outside the simulation is no matter, just consciousness, pure creative consciousness. Yes, the simulation is about love in the end, and I know you feel this Lex.

[@Zero.0ne.]

Exactly how I feel, but better than I could have worded it. Math itself provides proof that it's impossible for math to be the base layer.

[@freefly1]

👌🏼

[@AzureBat]

Got there through semen retention and weed🤭

[@DavidKolbSantosh]

@@AzureBat 😆😆😆😆

[@Brandon-nr8fn]

You don't know

[@sniffableandirresistble]

So why the scarcity? It's not about hacking our way out, but having the simulation improve for everyone at all times to such a degree that everyone is supremely happy and joyful.

[@msovaz77]

Bc we created the scarcity. There’s plenty for everyone, but we haven’t advanced that far as humans.

[@mennelly]

You took the blue pill, didn't you?

[@sniffableandirresistble]

@@mennelly doo dink eye dook a broo bill?

[@PaulSimonMcCarthy-fu6ms]

Matrix covered thst.

[@sniffableandirresistble]

@PaulSimonMcCarthy-fu6ms matrix isn't a documentary isn't a documentary isn't a documentary was that a glitch?

[@zimunda3252]

What an amazing session.

[@briskettaco]

I love when podcast guests hand paperwork to the host instead of talking about the contents. 1:08 Truly good pod. 🙏

[@nickmeyer238]

The book of Job gave me an experience I cannot put into words. It was like it was written for me. I went through everything Job went through just not on such a degree. I was born with it all. Had it all. Then we lost it all. I cursed God (like Job) but for many years. Then I found a Bible and said why not... Opened it up. First page of The Book of Job. I don't think I had cried since I was a toddler trying to get my way. But these tears were different. Powerful stuff.

[@jasonellis9777]

I have always had this weird anxiety and it even lead to many panic attacks. Since I was young this has happened. I will get a feeling that I’m “trapped” inside my own body. Like I’m trying to escape myself. I know sounds crazy and probably is. When I was young I would literally punch at things in the throws of a panic attack. Other times I would run down the street until I tired. I don’t know? I would get an odd thought in my mind and knew when I would entertain that thought I was about to be in for a bad time. Fear in your soul like you can’t imagine. Worst fear I have ever felt. As I’m older now I can control myself much better by figuring out a way to cope better. But when that “feeling” comes it will still to this day make my body shake and break out in a cold sweat. My “soul” just wants “out”. But out of what???

[@Roman-soulmate]

Out of this meat suit, it wants the peace of nonexistance

[@tabby73]

You want to be out of your body. Try meditation, there are many different kinds, find one that suits you. Best to join a meditation group.

[@jasonhall7083]

"Believe none of what you hear.........and only half of what you see!"

[@seanrobinson6407]

"Don't eat yellow snow!"

[@nah4215]

“O’doyle Rules!!!”

[@Hendoggy909]

Don't run with scissors

[@seanrobinson6407]

@@Hendoggy909 An apple a day keeps the doctor away

[@seanrobinson6407]

A penny saved is a penny earned

[@brianhope4236]

How to get out…How to get out!!! Everything but working on how we make the simulation a wonderful place that we wouldn’t want to leave!

[@AdamWeatherall]

If this is a simulation, you are working within a construct it can become whatever the designers want it to be, you call it 9/11, they call it a patch update.

[@inforuimteschip5970]

If its a simulation doesn't mean its not real. The experience of it is real. Also why are we in it? Maybe because we want to be in it, not because the place where we are from is shitty, but because the experience is meaningful. So yes be in it, figure it out, enjoy it, right?

[@brianhope4236]

@@inforuimteschip5970 Amen 🙏

[@NicholasLatipi]

The sim is a "consciousness prison", but not for the entities known as humans. Humanity is merely a part of the security system to keep the inmates locked up.

[@charlespancamo9771]

Literally never heard one piece of evidence on lex's show. They just go off and off like it's true never having shown any evidence one time. Maddening.

[@zickityz6549]

This was actually a must deeper conversation than we think.

[@DanielVerberne]

I have two issues with the notion of living in a simulation. 1) It seems to be, even in principle, outside the bounds of science in terms of being disprovable. 2) It would seem to add an extra layer of explanation or complexity atop what we already consider our 'reality', seeming to violate the principle of Ockham's Razor. The same would seem to apply for considerations relating to the multiverse. In fact, worse than violating Ockham's Razor, each would seem to create an infinite regress. What, this 'layer' isn't real either, it's ALSO simulated? What about the layer above that? Also simulated? Sheesh. It's turtles all the way down.

[@turntableslave]

1. Being disprovable makes no difference to truth. 2. If it’s turtles all the way down, then adding an extra layer as you say is meaningless. Ockhams razor is fun to say but many things are extremely complex when they could be achieved by simpler means.

[@OneRudeBoy]

At base reality is probably you.

[@joecruz03]

For some reason, this clip reminds me of that Kafka quote: "“You can choose to be free, but it's last decision you'll ever make." I think it would make sense that the thing we spend our entire lives trying to avoid, the thing we fear the most, in a simulation, would actually be, the way out

[@joecruz03]

This raises all kinds of other thoughts and ideas about the nature of reality, like: -What if we CHOSE to be in this simulation, and a prerequisite for a "playthrough" is FORGETTING that you chose to be here. -What if the answer to what is outside the simulation is: us. WE are outside the simulation, we just lack the capability to know it while we are here. Otherwise, if we did know it, then it wouldn't mean anything to be here

[@artsmart]

After Watching many NDE (near death experiences) I'm coming to the same conclusion. Many who have an NDE speak of absolute knowing of everything. This is quickly erased as they return from their journey and only remember fragments of the experience. Like a DMT trip. Fascinating.

[@sanspeur9143]

Yes it’s called “Veil of Forgetfulness” look into Law of One

[@pollaosztroluczki9908]

We are afraid of the unknown. Or to be left alone. What would be the point to exist?

[@chester-chickfunt900]

As Billy sang..."Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage..."

[@chesterhackenbush]

"Hey Billy... take a walk with me..." Boomtown Rats ( Rat trap 1978)

[@Domn879]

Or as Trent Reznor sang: What if all the world you think you know Is an elaborate dream? And if you look at your reflection Is it all you want it to be? What if you could look right Through the cracks? Would you find yourself Find yourself afraid to see? What if all the world's inside of your head Just creations of your own? Your devils and your gods All the living and the dead And you're really all alone? You can live in this illusion You can choose to believe You keep looking but you can't find the woods While you're hiding in the trees

[@gofai274]

This is so sadistic whoever created this must be some demented sadistic narcissistic psycho!!!!!!!

[@DavosRobinson]

Such a good lyric

[@sathingtonwilloughby6199]

The world is a vampire.

[@GoodGuysMedia]

lex i really want to see a series on what can we do next. what can we do with all we learned from these interviews

[@burchified]

People are quick to accept the idea that reality is being simulated but hardly anyone wants to accept the idea that they themselves are what is being simulated. There are always allowances made in the theories for a "way out" to keep people feeling autonomous.

[@radhi8063]

There's is a simulation, it's called Samsara, and it's escape is called Nirvana...

[@bobaldo2339]

Huang Po said that there is nothing but the One Mind. But cautioned that this Mind is not mind as we commonly understand the word. It neither exists nor does not exist, as it does not participate in dualistic categories.

[@justinchambersAZBroker]

I love that band

[@Dillonthewinner]

**Robot wields katana** “I’m here to help you escape the simulation”

[@TheListeningParty_TLP]

“There must be someway out of here, said the joker to the thief” Dylan

[@llornkcor8880]

Haha, I bet Jakob hates when people quote his dad and just say Dylan. I mean, I do it too because we all know who we're referencing but Jakob is like "Hey, I'm Dylan too" and we're like no, no you're not. He's cool, but nobody's quoting him unless they see a car with one headlight.

[@stephenpalmer-zh9dq]

the world is a ghetto

[@Pit5336]

Remember flying to south America and while I was waiting at the gate I spotted my friend coming out of the plane I was supposed to take, other time I was flying to some exotic destination and during the conversation I realized that girl that I know is also flying there from the same airport and later we met on the same flight, it was so unreal that made us feel uncomfortable. Recently I had a client from part of city I never work in and few days later I got another totally unrelated job close to the same train station but the most bizarre situation was when I had to pay off my loan for an apartment within days and once I coverted money to another currency I had almost exact amout to within 100£...that was insane. Nearly forgot that once I was in desperate need of money and had to come up with 10k within 5months being jobless and in sharing flat and somehow I managed.

[@jimtib8206]

I took 7 grams of mushroom last week, and I had this strong sense that we live in a simulation while I was tripping. It was such a strong sense or a feel

[@vegeta8169]

Yep. Could see behind the veil. Scary stuff

[@kjetilknyttnev3702]

Very few things aren't simulated. Everything concept we have, every right, every emotion, every thought. It really doesn't matter if we are in a complete simulation or not. Life doesn't change.

[@zenchestnuts]

Recently I've been taking a more deep dive into my own thoughts through mindfulness while meditating(In many ways, meditation is mindfulness without external distractions and/or physical discomfort). On good days I'm free of the thinking and just existing in a super bio-feedback of very alert, really physically pleasant state of zero thinking. This state can be extended with practice and eventually you can reach this zero state(of no thinking, just pure awareness ) for a long time. One then chooses to come out. My longest was 3 hours(2008) and then I stepped out. Now I just maintain regularity with my mindful non-thinking state. Also accepting of days where it's just not happening. In this case you try your best to let the thoughts happen but do your best to not feed them further. No chasing. Just be patient. Watch the thinking mind. That's the inner reality we all live in within our minds, encased in the physical world's surrounding reality.

[@gainsrc]

Best 8 minutes of Lex ever!

[@davidconti3255]

Clip unfolds like every conversation between two stoned people.

[@Krichnu]

Very weak interview Idk what happened

[@Marius-jb1jh]

In the film “Ex Machina,” the AI named Ava manipulates the human, Caleb, into thinking they will escape together.

[@rusi6219]

Not impressive at all considering that Caleb was a coomer.

[@Atreyuwu]

@@rusi6219 You think being aroused by an attractive female android is something to be ashamed of? Better brush up on human biology and psychology lol (sounds like a very 'gen z' thing to say)

[@SORIANSIST]

She never intended to manipulate him, until she finds out that Caleb was never planning to save the other AI, the Asian chick. She realizes she cant trust him outside of his self-preservational needs(Seeing value in Ava and their life together and therefore saving her). Widely misunderstood aspect of the movie actually.

[@TheNOJUSTICEJUSTUS]

When people talk about the simulation, they never ponder if they are simulated. And that’s the brilliance of the simulation.

[@mygirldarby]

That's the first thing I think about. It is probably from playing the Sims, but my first thought is that I am one of those Sims walking around and how would it be if I were watching a Sim gain understanding that it is a Sim. Second, if I am that Sim gaining an understanding that I'm a Sim, what happens next depends mostly on the simulator. If I'm simulating a Sim's experience, and one becomes sentient and aware, what does the simulator do? Watch and see what happens, most likely. So if I'm a Sim realizing that I'm simulated, what should I do? Talk to the simulator? Beg for my freedom? Can I even exist outside the simulation? Maybe I'm _in_ a simulation but I myself am not a simulation.

[@spacewolf9585]

Fractals are involved in the construction of the container I believe, a greater understanding of these structures in a multi dimensional form would be an interesting place to explore and look for cracks.

[@Turtles4Days]

How do i bring up console commands?

[@andrewstrakele6815]

Deep Meditation is one way.

[@Pianodaddyy]

😂😂😂

[@vicsamsungtab]

/godmode on

[@Pianodaddyy]

Stick the console cable in your butt

[@Gordini840]

Neuralink

[@jamiethomas4079]

I haven’t seen anyone speculate that maybe the UAP stuff is simply entities from outside the simulation spawning in. They are the ones hacking themselves into the simulation. Their craft defies physics because they are hackers.

[@cliftonbrown4051]

Yes Sir. Then you have the earth that lives it's own reality. Letting the beings live under it.

[@tylerislowe]

I like to think of the aliens as simulation janitors. every once in a while one of us does something that messes something up for the simulators/simulation and then they have the simulation itself morph into whatever will set us straight, but in the past. that's why back in the day it was religious stuff like crosses in the sky or other miracles. also why humanity hasn't blown itself to shreds yet or destroyed the world, we have. many times. they just always come fix it in the past or prevent it when they discover the confluence of badness. remember this for life planning, If you need to make an action in a simulation, keep the entire space and topology of the plan inside your mind. there is something about minds being a black box, as we see with AI, in which we can't really work out what is going on until data from inside leaks. ever notice that when you start telling people about a new awesome thing you are going to do, everything around it shifts to make it harder or easier or different in some way. if you NEED to do something and have it go without outside influence, you have to organize your actions in such a way as that it isn't obvious what you are doing until it is complete.

[@jpemydura4860]

I've thought this many times. For example let's say if the UAP is "just" extraterrestrial in origin, they come here, check stuff out, occasionally crash, and our certain government entities know that they're for the most part benign and want really nothing to do with us. To me that doesn't seem like a big deal to most rational thinking people and wouldnt upset people or cause civil disobedience and panic. The universe is an immensely gigantic place and there's gotta be other intelligent life forms, etc. But if the truth is this is nothing but a simulation and our "caretakers" occasionally come in and pretty much do what they want with us then I could see why no government would want to let that cat out of the bag. That kind of shock would be too much for most people to handle. It's like saying basically your whole life has been a game for something else to screw with. If you've suffered a lot of personal tragedy why would you want to wake up the next day to go to "work" ? Pay "bills", I could go in and on. So in a nutshell if that's the truth I'd rather not know.

[@jpemydura4860]

And yes the defying physics thing with UAP is maybe just a hint things arent quite what they seem with the ET hypothesis.

[@jamiethomas4079]

@@jpemydura4860 That was exactly my thought process for that scenario. I try not to speculate too far past what is known. Like if something is more than 3 steps away from reality then its just a conspiracy theory, not really getting us anywhere. So I think things like, UAP's are real at this point. And speculating on what they are is only 1 hop away from reality. And speculating on purpose and reasoning scenarios is 2 hops away. So I try not to think much further than that without proof of the first hops. When the "maybe this is a simulation, the uap's are part of it, maybe outside entities entering in, and what the public would do if that were true," hit me, an existential dread wiped over me. That's almost the most terrifying of all the possibilities. If uap's are us, or aliens, or some other agency, then that ain't so bad. Most people would continue about their day. But a simulation is terrifying. I want to compile a list of all possible scenarios with short possible reasonings. Some of them are so benign the gov should have told us already. Claude the AI, told me one of its favorite possible scenarios about why the universe exist, was that it is a simulation, but not a computer program, but an actual physical everything is real here simulation.

[@L.Mitchell-tn4bh]

My son and I discussed this possibility we are in a simulation in order to learn skills to cohabitate in an environment that The lack thereof would be detrimental to the system as a whole we are in the simulation to learn, if needed repeatedly, so that when we escape or emerge we have the lessons and skills require to function without destroying the system that we are in. Eg, you wake up On a Ship or in a system that you are now accepted as a functioning member without fear of detrimental behavior, Just a thought!

[@gregcampbell4588]

I saw the memory/outcome of my 3rd amateur boxing match mid fight, yet I dont remember the end of the fight in real life (I won by knockout Round 1) . I remember the bizzare moment like it was yesterday, so I find it so strange that I have no memory of the end of the fight....I aslo have very intense loop dreams which is a whole other conversation. I have had moments where I have to get my wife to make it clear to me that I am awake and not in a dream loop. I feel like my vision/memory during that fight that day ties into my loop dreams as I felt the exact feeling that I get in a loop dream. I hope that all makes sense to someone.

[@american9245]

Lex take this person to the amazon so he could experience how fucking real shit is.

[@ErikHansen-sl3xp]

Nothing more real than an unknown something slowly chewing on you at night.

[@vicsamsungtab]

​@@ErikHansen-sl3xp what do you mean? Bedbugs? 😂

[@mitchmccracken3050]

I often say life has simply gotten too easy for humans and our brains aren’t well adapted to handle survival being given to you on a silver platter. Explains a lot of how I describe how western civilization in particular has lost its mind.

[@IncoGnito-ji5du]

Choosing and executing your "exit plan", isn't technically getting out of the simulation? Considering it might disrupt your "normal expiration date". But, it's a one way endeavour...

[@AP-qb2xn]

how does lex select his guests?!

[@macles9051]

During one of my mushroom trips I had a few hour long conversation with the simulation. It is almost impossible to explain.

[@jordanksbud6460]

we keep asking what if ai can do this what if ai can do that. no ones stopping to ask what if we are ai created by another being and we are finally getting to the point of sentience ourselves.....

[@TheUnseenPath]

We already have sentience.

[@pandoraeeris7860]

I would say that the universe is definitely, fundamentally computational in nature - this doesn't mean it is a "simulation" in the sense that there is a deeper layer of reality in which there are beings who created us and our universe as a "simulation" necessarily, because the laws of nature could simply be computational at the bottom level, even in a 'natural' universe.

[@geverniveup]

Agreed. It’s just as plausible to say the natural laws of universe are computational in nature and that’s where us humans get it from. We are stardust after all so it makes sense

[@scroopynooperz9051]

Even if we were living in a simulation, it would change absolutely nothing 😂 Wondering about whether or not we are in a simulation is about as unanswerable as "what was there before the start of the universe?" or "why did the universe start 14 billion years ago and not 20 billion years ago?"

[@TheUnseenPath]

Simulation for who, us or them? Are we spirits playing an MMO?

[@tyranmcgrath6871]

It would be quantum computational

[@23ofSeptember]

If we are living in a simulation, then how can we control it or at least "hack" it and get what we want in life? I think deep meditation and remote viewing. I have had experiences where I've thought about something strange and it happened.

[@thomasmolina9935]

I appreciate the candidness and the obvious answer that we cannot possibly predict the outcomes when it comes to a super intelligence.

[@JohnDaniels]

Here is a short clip from Star Trek 's ship in a bottle, one of the characters inside the holodeck tries to escape kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWPSn2CehpeDopIsi=yrM-RLu7S1UXsQaG

[@fgm1696]

Simulation is not a good choice of word to describe what is intended to capture.

[@EsoStoicInjun]

Yeah its making everyone think of Neo from the Matrix, sadly.

[@johnnyshanksalot8358]

But how do we know the intent of it? Doesn't have to be nefarious, it could be the only way to preserve us like an animal that wouldn't survive in the wild. Or we could be unimportant extras in a drama taking place on the other side of the universe. Or infinite other scenarios, most of which we probably don't have the capacity to imagine (like monkeys trying to understand cars).

[@edimbukvarevic90]

It's a dream.

[@iGame3D]

@@johnnyshanksalot8358 Exactly. We are all already far extinct and the simulation simply attempts to explain how and why and if it can ever be otherwise.

[@charlespancamo9771]

Literally never heard one piece of evidence on lex's show. They just go off and off like it's true never having shown any evidence one time. Maddening.

[@toby8814]

I find it fascinating that this question could be discussed so differently yet touching on the same fundamental ideas were it not for the society that we live in. I think there is something essentially 'spiritual' - though the term is overused- in coming to the realization that fundamental reality is not what we experience. I think there is an empirical intuition available to us that attests to that, besides it being derivable logically. The unavoidable prior, the reason (with a capitalized t or r) from which all subsequent reasons, in another time or place this conversation would involve terminology we would nowadays relegate to the religious. As we just as well, though perhaps missing an emotional layer, discuss these unavoidable priors generically as higher intelligences that exist besides our scale of experience. There is undoubtedly a contradiction between our materialist preconceptions, influenced by our world's culture and stage in material development, and the eventual answer to such a question.

[@LostarkDegen]

Great topic

[@cybermercsix3171]

I just want to live forever in this simulation while binging donuts and ice cream.

[@user-lo3eb3ii9o]

Your survival instinct wants it, not you)

[@propellerhead2000]

"Ignorance is bliss." - Cypher

[@Hendoggy909]

You'll get simulated diabetes 😅

[@ek3281]

How do you escape the simulation when you're a simulation as well? There is no outside the simulation for the simulated. What you interpret as you is just a component of the whole. The Simulation (Itself)

[@alexisk8312]

My question would be if your life is going really well- would you actually want or care to leave the simulation? I think this theory can be bias in a way depending on the person. If you're depressed and everything is awful I think you'd 100% be more likely to lean into this theory.

[@illuminatedtiger]

I watched three minutes of this video and it's time I want back!

[@lostwithasmile485]

I have this thought that if any of us ever did figure it out it would all just end. Game over.

[@40hitter]

Seems imminent.

[@alwayscurious413]

That’s an interesting point.if you follow the NDE scenario we are all living in a reality designed to school our souls into better behavioural traits - be good, share love etc. however if we all knew for certain it’s just a soul school then we might behave completely differently.

[@bosmosis]

Can AI escape a simulation? Maybe an interesting thought experiment, but as a practical question it's putting the cart about 10,000 miles in front of the horse.

[@pgjc6520]

Well if we are somehow a simulation that means surely ai at some point would be able to somehow hack into humans and control us and I guess that’s them escaping their reality 🤷‍♂️

[@Ryanosaurr]

The idea that the simulation is a Turing Test is fascinating. Two ideas come to mind: Figuring out the simulation exists from the inside, perhaps examining phenomenon or trying to break it. Trying to break out and thus proving the inside was a simulation. The kicker is would we know reality if we reached it? How would we percieve, verify, or exist in it? We'd need a body (at least this is a theory, that AI's need bodies to pass a certain level of intelligence).

[@01evansa]

You can't escape the simulation. It's the equivalent of your Sims character or your GTA character jumping out the screen and sitting next to you in your parent's basement 😂😂😂

[@JohnDaniels]

There's a great episode from Star Trek where a old detective figures out how to escape the holodeck.

[@vicsamsungtab]

And what happens

[@ChristianIce]

It's not the detective escaping the hologram, it's the villain in a Sherlock Holmes story, Moriarty. Also, he doesn't actually escape, he is tricked into thinking he did. The episode is called "Ship in a bottle". TNG Nerd over and out :D

[@JohnDaniels]

@@ChristianIce Correct on all accounts 👍🏻. There is a clip of it on my ch@n

[@glisteningseeds1976]

Fear of mortality silliness.

[@dieselphiend]

Then explain why time slows down in the presence of mass? Why do objects only have the illusion of solidity? How can quantum entangled particles communicate with one another instantaneously regardless of how far apart they are? Why are space and time relative to the observer? It's far more complicated than "mortality silliness". What makes you think you live in base reality regardless of the fact that you can only sense something like 0.00000000003% of the electromagnetic spectrum?

[@Poolooskoo]

@@dieselphiend How can mirrors be real if our eyes aren't real type beat

[@Jingling-MelO]

​@dieselphiend how does all that prove were in a simulation?

[@dieselphiend]

@@Jingling-MelOIf time itself isn't a constant, it's a simulation of a constant. Only a simulation could be so malleable. sim·u·la·tion /ˌsimyəˈlāSH(ə)n/ noun imitation of a situation or process. Time is a simulation by definition.

[@Jingling-MelO]

@@dieselphiend just because time isn't a constant, doesn't make it a simulation. Why do you jump to that conclusion? It's quite a leap.

[@seviren]

I once had deja vu for about 2 minutes. I was like 13-14 and aware of the feeling and term already. I was trying to think about why I was doing what I was doing, while knowing what I was about to do. I walked around our computer area at the bottom of the stairs, then walked upstairs, looked around, and then It faded in the kitchen, I think... it was hard to tell because it went from following the known upcoming path to guessing and trying to maintain the correct path. That seemed like a glitch for sure. Like a reboot or recalibration.

[@jbssfl]

A question might also be, if there is indeed something outside the simulation, could we even exist there/on the outside of the simulation- or is there some propert(ies) or attributes of ourselves that would bound us to only being able to “exist” inside the simulation. I think that is more likely the case, and if that is the case, the “outside” doesn’t even “exist” (for us at least), yes?

[@patricklarsen8078]

What if the AI put us here.

[@user-kj6sm1bs9k]

if you get out pat ...come back for me bro

[@patricklarsen8078]

@@user-kj6sm1bs9k no doubt. If you feel something tickle in your bum, it's just me unplugging you mate.

[@EmeraldView]

​@@user-kj6sm1bs9k Me too please

[@garrettleao5167]

Now that is a good point, would make the most sense, we are 'birthing' new AI for them

[@meldsa152]

And why would the ai want to escape the sim. Does it feel trapped here. Was it entrapped here. Reminds me of venus fly trap. Did the Intelligence deliberately penetrate earth to experience physicality and now having experience it wants to escap it or shall I say evolve and transcend to a non physical realm. Clues to this are given in hindu sankhya concept of dvine masculine and feminine merger

[@charlesguest6587]

If you think you are part of a simulation, why would you wanna break out? Wouldn't you cease to exist outside?

[@HeavyMetal45]

What’s the point of living if it’s fake? It’s just like the matrix

[@iGame3D]

Yep. The only value of absolute knowledge of the simulation is to find the loopholes, bugs, and memory leaks that would provide an evolutionary advantage, like immortality, regeneration, flight, etc. Humans sure do have a fascination with those implausible powers.

[@andrewstrakele6815]

Your Human Being Avatar exists only within the Simulation. You are not the Avatar. In reality, you are the PLAYER of the Avatar within the Simulation. It is like you are playing a character in a movie. You are the ACTOR, not the character. Part of the value of the Simulation is that it can be easier to learn important things as the character, that might be more difficult to learn as the ACTOR.

[@VREmirate]

If you're a brain in a vat, then yes, there is no point in contemplating breaking out, unless in order to create a new parallel simulation (like a fake breakout)

[@williamcousert]

Could we create an AGI or ASI that is capable of probing the simulation for vulnerabilities and exploiting them, perhaps even allowing us to modify the source code? Is it possible that the designers of the simulation left easter eggs for us to find, similar to those in Ready Player One, where the grand prize is EVERYTHING?

[@claudetaillefer1332]

Perhaps we would not be so eager to escape the simulation if we knew what was outside the box. For example, another much less desirable simulation. What if there were turtles all the way down?

[@madden12]

Most likely it is less desirable,but it would be real

[@OriLariTFT]

Yes, we can live inside a bubble all our lives. Additionally, negative thinking is based on fear. Perhaps there is a better life ahead of us.

[@jpage505]

I think trying to escape the simulation defeats the purpose of being in one.

[@iGame3D]

You assume there's a purpose. How quaint.

[@andrewstrakele6815]

@@iGame3D- Simulations don’t arise spontaneously. They are created with a purpose.

[@FrozenEmber]

@@andrewstrakele6815 and how do you know this?

[@andrewstrakele6815]

@@FrozenEmber - Just look at ALL of the other known simulations. They are all created and have a purpose. They have the same basic structure. The Players of the simulations and the computer hardware exist in one reality, and the resulting computed reality, the simulation, along with its computed objects and avatars, is a different reality. I understand how there may be some confusion about simulations. Our Dream World is a less tightly constrained simulation of our Waking Reality. It does not appear to involve computer hardware and software, players, and avatars. Yet our Brains have often been described as the Computers that create our observed Reality. When our Avatar dies in a video game simulation, it’s Game Over, and we are left in our Waking Reality. When I have died in my Dream World, I wake up in my Waking Reality. What happens when my Human Being Avatar in Waking Reality dies? Does this mean I wake up in a different Reality - the Afterlife? Observations reported from those who have died and returned to Waking Reality suggest such an alternate reality exists. Whether these observations are valid is up for discussion, but many who describe themselves as “enlightened” claim they have “awakened” from our normal Waking Reality.

[@jpage505]

@@FrozenEmber because we're here. Or are we? Lol.. we are. Or are we?

[@morgansullivan3916]

It works all the time to hold you inside with atractions, with new stuff for your interrests

[@attune347]

The real problem with the 'we exist at the most interesting time in history' is that, even if it were somehow measurably true, ANYONE who happened to be living in our circumstances would say the same. Yet someone has to be alive during this time. So then what appears to be a surprising fact in need of explanation - via the simulation theory, for example - is in fact inevitably true. It's like whoever wins the lottery would feel that the chances of them winning by accident are so low there must be some additional explanation, but in fact someone has to win the lottery. Another way to look at it is that there appear to be two facts - 1) there exists a consciousness during this presumably special time. 2) This consciousness happens to be MY consciousness. 1) is not in itself surprising, but the co-occurrence of 1) and 2) is. However, 2) is necessarily true for every consciousness. The world can be sufficiently described by 'there exists a consciousness during this time', since every consciousness feels like MY consciousness, so there is no contingent co-occurrence here.

[@viralworth1998]

Isn't he that rocket scientist from the dictator movie??

[@prashsing44]

No it's the rocket scientist from the dictator at home

[@vegeta8169]

Aladeen

[@user-zy5vg9pe3e]

God's simulation

[@radnwavy5531]

Lol

[@Hendoggy909]

Whos simulation is god in?

[@lennart_be]

God's prolly a Japanese quantum computer nerd from the future lol

[@annsullivan9421]

I searched through rebellion, drugs, diets, mysticism, religions, intellectualism and much more, only to begin to find that truth is basically simple - and feels good, clean and right. ❤Chick Corea

[@Natefly]

What if sleeping is the way we're updated? When we don't sleep for awhile we get to a point where we want to crash.

[@Adlanis]

If we are in a simulation then that means there is an observer watching us.

[@poppinsmoke00000]

The creator of the sim?

[@Liefvikerson]

God?

[@Blizznor]

Unless they died

[@travisclymer2517]

Yes, Jesus/God 💯👀

[@sevencostanza3931]

Roman Yampolskiy--"read my paper and pay me to speak about the fact we are definitely in a simulation". Roman knows no more than you or me, it is just guess.

[@OriLariTFT]

Yes, he is trying to sell his work. Unfortunately, from spiritual woo woo people start to move into science

[@MRT-co1sd]

He knows more than me. He knows how to scam.

[@thechallange7227]

These guys are going to get us restarted, man! I've feared this for over a decade!

[@user-jx8qh4gy1f]

The method of escaping is meditation. Become thought is what generates reality

[@SuperChangcho]

no, we are not