Lexical Scanning in Go, a talk by Rob Pike at Google Technology User Group given on Tuesday, 30 August 2011. The slides: rspace.googlecode.com/hg/slide...
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@RayPereda686 жыл бұрын
This is an exquisite example of clean code. Lexical analysis code is often hairy but as Rob shows doesn't have to be. Go first class functions and slices really shine here.
@lukes546110 жыл бұрын
My favourite line: “So we should write our own [lexer], because it's easy, right? Anybody can write code-especially programmers.” (11:45)
@russellchido5 жыл бұрын
@@skepticmoderate5790 lmao bf doesn't even require lexing. Each character is a token. This is the worse qualification to talk about parsing.
@kamilziemian9952 ай бұрын
@@russellchidoCan you explain this in more details?
@kalekold5 жыл бұрын
This is now my ideal way of writing a lexer in Go. It's such an elegant solution.
09:26 "We could use a tool. Lex is a pretty famous one. Initially written by Mike Lesk and then redone when he was an intern by someone called Eric Schmidt." ... who at the time of this talk was his Boss (and the CEO of Google)
@rettberg56888 жыл бұрын
Is anybody familiar with the work of Michael Jackson? (sees a lot of hands) Good (goes right into talking about some obscure CS researcher.) This man is the pinnacle of nerd. I'm pretty sure the audience thought you were about to make a joke about thriller.
@AndyHerbert7 жыл бұрын
Jackson structured programming is hardly obscure.
@needlessoptions6 жыл бұрын
Andy Herbet Nerd
@skepticmoderate57905 жыл бұрын
Fairly certain it was a joke.
@ideaparkcc3 жыл бұрын
Go 的成功证明你就是个傻逼,事实证明了你真是个傻逼。
@bokwoon3 жыл бұрын
It was a joke and I'm so sad no one laughed! I sure did when I heard him offhandedly quip "as you know, Michael Jackson developed Jackson Structured Programming".
@olaifaoluwadarasimiibikunl7820Ай бұрын
Wow! Awesome talk. Can't wait to try this out. Thanks Rob.
@joshring856311 ай бұрын
Really appreciate how this talk made state machines more accessible to normal humans :)
@blizzy784 жыл бұрын
Very insightful, thanks Rob!
@naikrovek5 жыл бұрын
I like how Dave Chaney (now something of a Golang celebrity) is in the audience asking questions. Looks like him, anyway.
@ishwargowda Жыл бұрын
That was beautiful!!
@bokwoon3 жыл бұрын
So instead of the state machine being implemented as a state variable + a switch statement, it is implemented as functions returning other functions. If state A transitions to state B, it is encoded as function A returning function B.
@vonschlesien12 жыл бұрын
@henriquedante Unicode is actually not a problem - Go as a language natively supports utf8 as its character encoding for the string type. For example, around 23:00-24:00, where you see "switch r = l.next() {...", r is the next rune in the output - i.e. the next unicode code point assembled through utf8 decoding. If you want to accept only upper case, just call the relevant test function from package unicode on the value of r :-)
@jnevercast6 жыл бұрын
Master of Goroutines, still can't schedule :p
@DamienPollet11 жыл бұрын
I think we did something like that as an exercise, except each state function would directly call its successors using tail-recursion. That would have been in OCaml, IIRC…
@henriquedante12 жыл бұрын
@vonschlesien You're right I didn't think the test functions would be so efficient as they are
@ilcorion7 жыл бұрын
Is there any "Parsing in GO", describing the next step -- using the channel of items in order to build syntax tree?
@Adisaboss7 жыл бұрын
The parser code is there: golang.org/src/text/template/parse/parse.go I did not find any course on the topic either, though
@shakerlakes4 жыл бұрын
I love the slam against Perl at 4:32. 😉
@user-xj4gy4in3c5 жыл бұрын
This is so amazing talk. thx
@shakerlakes4 жыл бұрын
He's a very good speaker. I do enjoy his talks. Even if you're not interested in the topic, you'll become interested in the topic. You come away with insights that you didn't even know you were missing before watching the talk.
@EugeneCrosser12 жыл бұрын
@jimmyrcom I see. Honestly, in this particular case it's just a matter of personal preference, the for-loop is "elegant enough" too.
@DavidFarrellEastBay11 жыл бұрын
@chuanchuanLeo, did you finish your C implementation? Is it available for viewing online? Please let me know if you'd like any assistance.
@salvezza27108 жыл бұрын
guys, where can I find go parser for parsing sql files ? because, I found only a single statement parser and one located in influxdb, but it's not what I need.
@zgmg92635 жыл бұрын
This is amazing
@saptarsihalder78503 жыл бұрын
what is wrong with rob pike. this guy's idea is so simple yet its like a next level powerful idea...I am just amazed by how he did the lexing...
@DavidFarrellEastBay12 жыл бұрын
I wrote a lexer and parser API in Go, inspired by this presentation: github.com/iNamik/lexer.go github.com/iNamik/parser.go
@peterarnt7 жыл бұрын
Anyone know where the slides moved to? Link above does not work (i.e. linky-no-worky)
@peterarnt7 жыл бұрын
This appears to work: talks.golang.org/2011/lex.slide#1
@salkdjfasldkfjsdlk9 жыл бұрын
Great Golang talk as always. I really wish people would stop using the word trivial.
@Adisaboss7 жыл бұрын
Reminds me the horrible days of Math courses: "We'll skip this demonstration, it's trivial." "IT IS? Gosh I'm lost..." I couldn't agree with you more
@Naeddyr12 жыл бұрын
So let's lex a left meta. So let's lex a left meta. So let's lex a left meta. I love the way he says that.
@amiraelsayedhassan8538 Жыл бұрын
Anyone else think he'll start singing Smooth Criminal by Michael Jackson instead?
@EugeneCrosser12 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Go has tail call optimization. You might implement the construct described in minutes 14-15 as a tail call instead of a for-loop.
@JackMott4 жыл бұрын
it doesn't, even 8 years later.
@mahamedbelkheir27493 жыл бұрын
@@JackMott it does actually, but you have to do it manually with GOTO, it's one of the only valid usecases for goto, explicit tail call funcs
@Ch05111 жыл бұрын
Why does lex() return a reference to the lexer, and not just the item channel? Is this because the lexer would get garbage collected otherwise?
@Mike-iz9kh4 жыл бұрын
You have to call the "run()" method on the lexer you get back before you would get anything from the channel. I suppose that could be kicked off inside the same lex() function, but that's not how it was shown in the talk.
@stovechan78738 жыл бұрын
51:06 They wanted him to stay, be he had to Go. Should he stay or should he go? He decided to Go.
@AbhinandanNM8 жыл бұрын
Went over my head
@PriyankJainpj7 жыл бұрын
I am interested if you are still interested in helping me out?
@dn54262 жыл бұрын
wait, is that dave cheney...?
@henriquedante12 жыл бұрын
Main objection point is that you can't write this way if you're parsing unicode patterns. For example, what would be the accept() string for accepting upper case, lower case, etc. letters ? Nevertheless, the final scanner was extremelly clean and it must have been really fun to write.
@bokwoon3 жыл бұрын
You can simply modify the accept() to take in a boolean function instead of a string. That would allow accept() to take in the unicode.IsLetter() and unicode.IsLower() functions as arguments, which are unicode aware.
@user-ju1qd9ek2m Жыл бұрын
very clear talk and the lexical scanning in golang at 2022 is very different
11 жыл бұрын
RP just must do everything right, right? ;-)
@johnnm32072 жыл бұрын
Why did he say the work of Michael Jackson and I immediately thought of Billie Jean
@aperson40516 ай бұрын
I'm only 20 mins in, but I'm failing to see the "beauty" in this approach. The logic is spread out over codebase. Code should be optimized for (human) reads. A single switch statement where state is kept track of reads way easier.
@aperson40516 ай бұрын
I have a feeling this is another case of, when a new paradigm starts to take off (the actor model) everyone wants to write everything in it, and it all seems beautiful until we actually work with it and begin to learn why this new idea is not always appropriate for every task.