I understand why the city replaced some of the Els with subways (after all, the subways were much faster and higher capacity, and they didn't take up as much space), but they should not have torn down any of the Els before constructing a replacement subway. The loss of the Myrtle Ave El and 2nd avenue El is still felt to this day, as neighborhoods lost a vital rapid transit connection. Buses just can't replace trains, and at the very least, the city could have upgraded the Els to handle faster, higher capacity modern trains (much like what they did for many of the elevated lines in the outer boroughs) as opposed to tearing them down without building a replacement subway.
@robertn32328 ай бұрын
the lex and the mytle were obsolete after the a train was completed under ground
@BK_7183 ай бұрын
@@robertn3232there’s no longer a 1 seat ride from bushwick or ridgewood queens into downtown Brooklyn without transferring or riding into the city first then crossing back into downtown Brooklyn via lower Manhattan. The B54 bus sucks.
@georgemurphy25793 ай бұрын
Lived on Waverly just in from Myrtle.
@tomryan9433 жыл бұрын
If people today complain about the. subway service, let them take a look at this video!! Great shots! I think I rode this el once when I was in high school!
@luislaplume82612 жыл бұрын
1958 was the last year the open platform gate cars were used on any NYC El line. I was a little boy at that time. We were unaware of it because we lived then in Woodside, Queens where el train service ended in 1942 from the 2nd Avenue El. I wish we had known about it and brought our 1955 Kodak camera with us.
@trainrover3 жыл бұрын
my! they're absolutely adorable
@georgemurphy25794 жыл бұрын
Remember Blackboard Jungle with Glenn Ford and Sydney Portier? Great old el cars in that flick
@luislaplume82612 жыл бұрын
Correct! Within the first few minutes of the movie. From the city scene it looks like the Bronx. And Imshould know, I am a New Yorker.
@georgemurphy25794 жыл бұрын
Grand Ave stopped running about 1953 ... went off just west of Washington Ave.
@vze21gwa Жыл бұрын
Wow. They were really slow!
@georgemurphy25794 жыл бұрын
Farragut projects and Myrtle Ave!!
@litlgrey4 жыл бұрын
Oh that music... that music... it's like watching horrid sitcoms on ABC in 1984 or something. Gahh.
@josephwalc1496 Жыл бұрын
In the 1950’s my parents and siblings lived on Evergreen Ave between Stanhope and Stockholm. My dad and I got the Myrtle Ave El at Central Ave travelled to Jay St. (the last stop) and go to Sid’s Hardware Store then a visit to the historic Firehouse. The fire house was the headquarters of the Brooklyn Fire Dept before It was merged with the Fire Dept of New York (FDNY). It remained an active firehouse into the 1970’s. The Engine 207 and Ladder 110 moved into it’s newly built firehouse on Tillery St. near the Manhattan Bridge and theBrooklyn Navy Yard. After a short walk to Fulton St. going to Korvets and Abraham & Strauss Dept stores. Along walk back to the Mrytle Ave El we would stop for a hot dog or hamburger. Those were good times and good memories.
@rolandsanchez6233 жыл бұрын
They should rebuild that line
@j3lny425 Жыл бұрын
I didn't even know there was a Lexington Ave. in Brooklyn.
@georgemurphy25793 ай бұрын
I'm with you on that one 😮
@manfocused4 жыл бұрын
I grew up on Lexington Ave bet. Throop & Tompkins (1983-1997) and never knew about the elevated train until I saw an old picture of Lexington & Tompkins Ave from the 1940s.
@jdredman5 ай бұрын
I grew up on the next street, Quincy, between Throop & Tompkins (1973-1991)!
@stephenjackson51313 жыл бұрын
I lived in marcy houses in late 50s to 1964 and use to marvel at the el train. From my bedroom I could stare and watch the trains go by . 3 cars during the day, 6 at rush hour.
@1575murray3 жыл бұрын
I went to one end of the line one day and watched the workers couple 3 car trains together for the PM rush hour. It was dirty, dangerous work because nothing was automatic like it is on modern cars with fully automatic couplers. A pin had to be inserted into a receptacle on each car to secure the connecting link and cables and hoses had to be connected between the cars to make the 3 car sets work as a 6 car train.
@luislaplume82612 жыл бұрын
Absolutely true! In the rush hours my late father phoned my mother and asked her to bring the keys to the house with her to his work in Bushwick. We saw the 6 car rush hour train on the upper level that still had the original wooden roof and platform. In Old America in Old NYC during the Mad Men era of the 1960s!
@johnrobinsoniii4028 Жыл бұрын
Me, too.(though it was called the Marcy Projects back then.)Where we lived, we didn’t see the trains, but we heard them from a distance.
@georgemurphy25793 ай бұрын
America is now a pseudo, third-world country... we'll never see this again!!!!
@nebuladus78503 жыл бұрын
When I was little it was the dark color of the trains the wood like smell and the sounds they made especially in the subway...this really great steelo thxsomuch🌺💥🙏💥🌺
@ronramos27792 жыл бұрын
I remember taking this train back in 1966/1968, lived right off Myrtle Avenue
@georgemurphy25793 ай бұрын
I have a kerosene 🏮 lantern that fell from a wooden gate car overhead, in 1955. It missed my father by a few feet when he was getting into his car on Myrtle and Washinton.
@shamus9673 жыл бұрын
Where is the Graffiti? I guess it was a different "Culture" back in the day.
@mtanyctrainatlantamartatra71643 жыл бұрын
Those graffiti, so called artists are ridiculous
@georgemurphy25792 жыл бұрын
...and, Class!
@Ezekiel144k Жыл бұрын
There were pick pockets and robbers back then
@luiszuluaga657510 ай бұрын
There were no cans of spray paint available in those days.
@jessewolf76498 ай бұрын
@@Ezekiel144kworse today
@00crashtest8 ай бұрын
I wish they rebuilt all els in New York, but with floating slab track, pillars relocated to outside of the curbside, and wheels with variable taper in order to prevent flage contact altogether just like with upgraded trains and bullet trains in Asia and Europe. That would enable New York to return the iconic aesthetics of its historic els while still ensuring a whisper quiet experience and giving a unique world-class sightseeing experience just like with Chicago's Loop. Unlike the CTA L however, my proposal would have a Business Class car in every trainset (just like with commuter rail in Asia, especially Green Cars in Japan) that travels on elevated lines in order to ensure that sightseers get a great experience from having a comfortable ride with a luxurious interior free from homeless. The Business Class fares for tourists and upper class commuters would also cost many (perhaps a dozen) times more than a standard fare in order to subsidize the low-income commuters in order to ensure the financial security of the railway operator so that future generations can continue to enjoy the elevated signseeing experience on infrastructure maintained to certified pre-owned like-new condition. I bet that such a modern el (but with historic aesthetics) built to my high standards would still be way cheaper than tunnelling the Second Avenue Subway through ultra-hard metamorphic schist rock hundreds of feet underground. After all, even the economically much-worse-off Philly was able to completely rebuild the Market Street western elevated portion of the Market-Frankford Line (including the foundations of the pillars) in the 2000s to a modern concrete structure, though I'm not sure whether floating slab track was used or not. Perhaps Chicago's el's weren't demolished because the original builders went the extra mile to lengthen the transverse girders in order to be able to place the pillars on the sidewalk or place the els over alleys alltogether, both in order to not block horse and automotive traffic? That is unlike New York, where the pillars were placed in the middle of the street on most elevated lines presumable to save money on having shorter transverse girders.
@iandale36746 жыл бұрын
Luv the illuminated sign box at 1:57!! It 's from before 1940, as it even includes the Fulton Line!!
@curiosity23146 жыл бұрын
I always wondered as a kid whether the turn was to tight with the famous scraping noise heard from the wheels. Started riding the subway in 1960.
@tron.448 ай бұрын
It's not the wheels so much as it is the shoe scraping the third rail! The shoe is how the electric motors get electrified.
@JoseNunez-hh1yr9 күн бұрын
Lots of NYC still looks like this. I was a C/R(1983-2013), got to hang out at Myrtle/Bway tower a couple of times.
@susanmolloy47055 жыл бұрын
Wow! Does this bring back memories!
@TheLordAI Жыл бұрын
I wasn't born til 74 so I missed all this
@JoeBeim11 күн бұрын
Weren't the people along the line afraid of electricity leaking out of the uncovered third rail.
@EdwardM-t8pАй бұрын
I wonder what New York City would be like if the transit authority maintained and upgraded all the elevated railways instead of knocking down all the lines that didn't tie into one of the tunnels?
@1575murray6 жыл бұрын
This is a great video thanks for posting it.
@bmendez37823 жыл бұрын
Lol well what do you know turns out the squeaky sound when trains make when they turn has always existed.
@parrot00512 жыл бұрын
Why didn't these so called transit buffs ever film the conductors operating the gates for the passengers ? this should have been these historic films. Rail fans don't even do this today when they run these museum gate cars and they call themselves rail fans, if your a rail fan you record on video as much as you can.
@oluhamilton21215 жыл бұрын
Only ONE platform? Weird.....
@59cadcoupe3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing on KZbin.
@georgemurphy25793 ай бұрын
It is such a shame about NYC these days...
@vancepomerening47944 жыл бұрын
And to think people 8have this all up just to have lawns.
@Interscope1009 ай бұрын
Man, what a shame to let all of this go 🙁
@georgemurphy25794 жыл бұрын
Could go from downtown area to East New York
@nebuladus78503 жыл бұрын
Hey this Awesome steelo💥💥💥💥💥
@jamarinyc3 жыл бұрын
i used to have an apt on Hart & Tompkins, really cool to know there used to be el's next to me
@georgemurphy25794 жыл бұрын
Ribbed rails and DC motors...who could ask for anything more??
@revenniaga62492 жыл бұрын
Cool, if I could only go back to that time and live and ride trains for a month.