LF LAWYER SI COACH VREN?! | REACTING TO THE RRQ DRAMA

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[@anggoroadmojopradiptaningt134]

When i see this i see a lot of comment ( in english) supporting how the coach are doing.., ahahahahahah dude... he basically has a bad manner from the ghosting to the gave up when rrq still has chance even tho i dont think they will get that chance 😂😂😂... but you were suppose to be on rrq side as a rrq coach.. so whyy a lot of biased comment here...

[@jokoparkir6539]

Same

[@anggoroadmojopradiptaningt134]

And now rrq still going to playoff. Vren is a joke atp

[@urek406]

Shit happens even 1rrad is getting criticized but what is he doing? Just doing his things, focusing on improving his chemistry with the team. How about vren? Already posting a consolation post even though his team isn't officially out of the playoffs? got more time trash talking in the IG with the fans. My guess is that people just got his feelings hurt because he's soft. Dude got used to winning in AP.Bren and thought he is the reason for all that championships they've won, now that he's back to earth realizing he's not the man at all lol

[@pogz1]

you just fuming. try calming down and thinking. only idiots need to calm down to think fyi

[@pogz1]

so you are telling me pulling out irrad and brusko is the best approach.. you indos need to pause and use your brain for once.. has it occrred to you why vren acted the way he acted..

[@urek406]

@@pogz1 Where's the part i said pulling out 1rrad and brusko is the solution? I even commended 1rrad for just focusing on playing and winning and do you even realize that Vren is a PROFESSIONAL coach? PROFESSIONAL must act like PROFESSIONALS dumbass. You don't talk shit to fans when you gave up on the team before they are officially eliminated lol Vren is soft just like you... and I'm a Filipino who hates soft coaches giving up on his team when shit goes wrong.

[@selocha4367]

​@@pogz1ur biased lmao. Any pinoys with a brain will realize that Vren is a bad coach. The track record says it all. Vren when he is still at BTR never wins in drafting phase, to the point the players themselves have to draft their own. M5 Vren got carried bt Bren players and Duckey. Then in RRQ, instead of supporting his players, Vren decided to call in because he was "sick" for 3 whole weeks. Deadass coach just ditched RRQ when they needed him the most. Im not even an RRQ fan, but seeing Vren's behaviour is so unprofessional its pathetic. Nor Indos or Pinoys claim him to be a good coach.

[@CommeDeGarcon]

@@pogz1and now without vren they managed to qualify to playoff for the second time. You just proved to us that vren is the most shittiest coach ever.

[@screenname__]

Helloo mamshoeee, visit kayo sa Iloilo soonn 😭🫶 lovelottsss

[@Snowfirez]

English translation please, we internasional fans want to know your opinion about this case

[@lanpaule3428]

What he’s basically saying is that Vren made a bad move especially he is not in his home country.

[@AbysmalClozdark]

coach vren just shooting his career down

[@_95xx]

Yung story during s1O galing pala mismo sa player.

[@jetjet9442]

Opinion ko lng. Ako, old school nmn ako at supportado ko military style of training. Magaling dn pinakita in Coach Vren Sa M5 lalo Sa drafting, kaso hinog na ang AP-BREN from Coach Duckey’s and Pau’s (RRQ Kaito) rebuilding process; Vren benefitted.

[@selocha4367]

The coach that was doing military style training wasnt Coach Vren, it waa a previous unknown BTR coach that got kicked unannounced. Vren was a replacement

[@karuiii]

Eto n nga inaabangan koooo

[@Soloish-Neesan]

RRQ fans want instant success from imports but its kinda hard since they dont have the chemistry and trust of each individuals in the team...it just needs time

[@balajihariharan7175]

I mean the track rate for top teams is with import immediately they become real good in the first season itself. Like onic after kairi join them, btr after emann join them. So for rrq to go from regular playoff qualifier to struggling to qualify is really surprising. Geek was the one who took time to develop the chemistry with baloy, but understandable since they were always in red zone prior to baloy joining.

[@mrpeanut6267]

Rrq should have keep their s12 roaster and buy a new midlaner (octa)if they really trust the process lol. Instead, rrq bought two pH players and a pH coach to get instant result .

[@zaynebuere]

Puro ka ganyan, eh ano yung sa btr, si emman saka si jm, tapos sa Aura si yawi, lahat sila nasa top ah, pag bano, bano talaga

[@4id09_muhsinrafiqooktariza6]

vrenn is a sh1tt , duckeyy is the real king !! duckey carry vreenn !!

[@SemutHitam-dq9ux]

The results were indeed bad but the coach not being on stage is another problem. he didn't start the process but ran away from failure

[@SemutHitam-dq9ux]

If the coach is that good, it's impossible for Apbren to let go that easily 😂

[@sadamaji7145]

Good point

[@toothlessman4163]

Sana nag pakitang tao nalang muna si coach vren kasi mahirap yang ganyan ugali lalo na nasa ibang bansa ka. Iba kultura at ugali ng mga tao dyan. Sana tinapos mo muna contract mo sa RRQ bago mo pinakita totoo mong ugali (kung totoo man mga sinasabi nila) Nagtaka rin ako bakit siya umalis sa BREN eh kakachampion lang tas nasa tamang form pa mga players nila

[@jokoparkir6539]

True

[@Cyrex.2000]

Actually,manalo matalo nung M5,lilipat talaga Ng RRQ si coach Vren..kasi bumisita Sila Sa RRQ bootcamp nung MPLI

[@danerivera3702]

For me, parang fishy nga yung point na hindi siya umaakyat. Maybe hindi siya pinapaakyat or choice niya.

[@JiemarkVlogs]

Yess

[@bryantspace10]

can u put a subtitle bcs i don't really understand tagalog :))

[@kanorskygaming1879]

Yan ang kapalit ng malaki sahod sa rrq dapat ready sya sa mga tatangaping pang babash tutal inaacept naman nya offer rrq kahit na alam nyang napaka toxic ng fans

[@laissezfaire8561]

Toxic naman pati din sa PH. Sadyang di lang nagperform RRQ as expected kaya ganyan

[@jokoparkir6539]

True so expensive

[@user-zg4rp8hl2e]

Pera lang siguro tinanggap nya ng buo.😅 hindi ang magiging outcome kapag pangit ang run.

[@user-hc4dl2ux7s]

next naman mama vee pano mag shotcall

[@user-zg4rp8hl2e]

Bayad na kasi sya kaya siguro nag bye-bye na. Bat kasi aalis-alis pa sa BREN ganda naman ng run nila. Ayan nagback fire tuloy sa kanya sa paghahangad ng malaking kwarta.

[@sweet3229]

Matalino talaga yan si bang kumis nag doctor yan e😂

[@andskie5210]

Sana binigla nalang ni Vren yung content creator na ito ng lawsuit kesa pinublicize pa niya na naghahanap pa siya ng abogado. Also off nga yung sinabi niya na nagthank you sa S13 na hindi pa tapos yung regular season eh wala pa nmn announcement na tanggal siya s coaching staff. Like dude, naging champion ang AP Bren dahil sa pinagdaanan nila pero bakit ganyan yung sinabi niya if hindi pa tapos yung regular season?

[@dyNiseClaire]

bsTa gusto malakiHang pera . malaki dn prbz. 😂😂. matapang pa sa ibang baNsa 😂😂😂 .. uwi ka nlng coach . wag kc mag hanap ng malaking pera agad² trust the process nga . 😅😅 mahirap tlga maging ofw . tayo dpt mag adjust kc dayo lng tayo d pwd mayabang 😂😂😂

[@IVTH_]

Bat naman kasi nag-post na agad ng "Thank you" di pa nga tapos. Galing siyang BREN, alam niya pinagdaanan ng BREN bago nag-champion ulit. Alam niya gaano kahirap mag-form ng chemistry sa team. Ginive-up niya agad yung idea na makakapasok sa playoffs yung team na lini-lead niya. Pinakita rin niya sa huli na pera-pera lang talaga kaya siya umalis sa former team niya. Di na nga raw niya sinasamahan sa stage. Imagine. What's really happening behind the scenes. If di man siya pinapaakyat na, ibig sabihin ayaw na ng team sa kanya gaya nang pag ayaw niya sa team.

[@selocha4367]

As a coach, he should always be in RRQ's side most of the time. Instead, Vren just excused himself sick for 3 whole weeks and start arguing with random people online . Thats just so unprofessional lmao. Your team is in a do or die situation and your coach is busy finding lawyers to win an online argument 😂 Bren and Duckey hard carried Vren in M5. Him being the head coach in BTR in S10 and RRQ now proves it. Winning drafting phase is rare when Vren is in the lead. Him posting "thank you for mpl s13" is a salt to the wound. RRQ needs every motivations they need and their coach is basically giving up on them. Im a fan of Bren myself. Vren is a bad coach, its a hard fact to swallow.

[@wqi09]

"Thank You" sounds like a closing statement. In fact, there's still weeks to go and lot of match RRQ to go through to get playoff chance. Yeah, it doesn't matter saying Thank You, but Vren didn't said it everytime, only when RRQ playoff chance drop to almost 0 and after he's missing for matches. It's about the context. If he's doing it like every week then it's understandable, but Vren doing it at the wrong time.

[@caduceiz2155]

As a coach you should believe and motivate your players when there is a slightest chance to make it into playoffs, you're a coach for a reason And what the fuck? At the end RRQ make it into playoffs 😂😂

[@knnth09]

veewise sna sa rrq palag palag sna

[@tibalbak6490]

Tama sobrang toxic ng soc. med. ngayon. Best example yung Tallano gold, dami naniwala dun e.

[@arixawaw675]

😂 sampai ksini P kumis😂

[@koichiryota]

i need english sub😭

[@nelfenogeraldjasmin9325]

me too😢😢

[@iankevinadelantar1361]

They're dealing with*

[@Ping2523]

Its your time veewise. Rrq vee , rrq wise

[@alanbo859]

Lfgg

[@juanfrappuccino3191]

Baka ito na yung issue na magpapanalo sa rrq. 😂

[@jessejames8901]

actually baka maapektuhan din ibang current at future ph players at coaches sa indonesia. kasi yung govt organization nila na under ang mpl indonesia ay active. yung govt organization yung rason bakit naging 9 teams sila imbes na 8 teams lang sa mpl. baka lumala to at makita ng org ay ipa ban na yung imports entirely. kawawa yung mga nag ttrabaho lang naman ng maayos sa indonesia

[@vandyke1411]

maapektuhan, mag iisip na ang mga mag iimport sa future kung pipiliin nila ang indonesia or hindi, sa sobrang toxic na God Tier katoxican ang community dun, abay mag isip2 kayong mag iimport.

[@LolLol-hu1rm]

Mas pabor nga yun para lalo bumagsak mpl id at sa international tourna haha

[@johnnathanlandaos3236]

​@@LolLol-hu1rmliteral na banong mindset. di naman babagsak yang mpl id yung mga import maaapektuhan jan kasii kulang mga teams dito

[@renzguarin2817]

​​@@johnnathanlandaos3236 actually feel ko hindi, if babalik man mga players natin galing Indo baka bumalik ulit yung mga pa tourna dati like Juicy Legends para may platform silang paglalaruan (semi amateur/ semi pro set up) if kaya nang MPL Ph na gumawa ulit ng mga ganong tourna mas maeenhance pa yung sistema at maibabalik ulit sa dati sistema sa pinas na may mga ganoong tourna. If magka ganon man mas mahirap sa indo non kasi may gulo at yung ibang management kumukuha sa mga pro nalang di sila kumukuha sa mga amateur kumbaga kuhaan kasi nila yung may achievement kaagad wala silang prosesong ginagawa. Opinion ko lang naman po ito hehehe

[@LolLol-hu1rm]

@@johnnathanlandaos3236 nope, nasa pekpek ka pa lng ng nanay mo wla ka alam sa ml. OG players kami pototoy. Mas maeengganyo ibang teams na kunin PH imports pag bumalik dito sa Pinas

[@norambel3308]

Kasi di na sya pinag cocoach ilang game na ng rrq wala c coach vren balita pa pinapaalis na sya dahil sa loose streak ng rrq

[@michelliatawatuan851]

FYI : he is a doctor and graduated from one of the best university in Indonesia ( UI = university of Indonesia ) that’s why his English is good

[@lastonestandinggjgaming]

And so? Ano relate? Kahit nga d graduate na tao marunong mag English , fluent pa kamo🙄

[@moshimic5628]

⁠​⁠@@lastonestandinggjgamingSecond language natin ang English kaya natural na mas marami nag eenglish at mas madali matuto ng English sa Pinas. Hindi English ang second language ng Indonesia, kundi first foreign language (sa pagkakaalam ko pero baka umiba na ngayon.) Pag i-coconsider yun, mas nakakabilib na nagsasalita siya ng English at may fluency pa, kasi for sure ineffort talaga yan. Wag po natin siya i-discredit, at alam naman natin mahirap makapasok sa mga top universities in general, kahit anong bansa pa yan.

[@LolLol-hu1rm]

University of sht? He can't even pronounce english words, unlike here in the Philippines, if you are going to communicate to a kid, he can talk a British accent😂

[@user-jo9jd8hb1g]

@@LolLol-hu1rmoh talaga pinagmamalaki mo english natin may accent naman tayo walang correct pronunciation boy, language lang ang pinagmamalaki mo hindi sukatan ng talino. Anong british pinagsasabi mo

[@michelliatawatuan851]

@@LolLol-hu1rm easy... the kids in indo also can speak British nowadays, so chill. I just give information bcs vee seems like surprised he explain it with English. my grandma also from davao, so I know u guys can speak English very well although I don't understand filipino language bcs I more into dutch bcs of my great great grand father was dutch. so don't need to overproud about it🙄

[@bokbok1448]

binuhat lang ni ducky taas na ng tingin sa sarili

[@rawrrzee4557]

Feel na feel pagka champion hahaha 😅

[@grze95th]

binuhat ni ducky at bren players, nung nasa BTR siya dati nilangaw

[@farel8403]

Aku orang indonesia

[@Lady_Gleam]

Same. Mas gusto ko pa tumambay sa KZbin kisa TikTok or Facebook.

[@kupalllll4753]

Import p more🤣🤣 we'll deserve sa mga pinoy n import

[@jenkim2267]

we’ll = we will

[@orin998]

Dapat inexpect na ni vren un toxicity sa Indo.tulad na lng k kairi, pag panalo sobra saya nila, pero pagtalo sobra bash at sisi k kairi. Same sa nangyayari k yawi at emann ngaun. Taas ng expectations nila sa imports kaya lahat ng mali sobrang pinupuna. Yan ung kapalit ng malaking sahod as an import

[@kimaserit4640]

Iba yung kila kairi at yawi na lipat sila dahil dipa tapos contract nila sa team kaya sister team ang bagsak nila grab sila sister team sa indo

[@nemessix]

baka ganyan culture nila sa indo. kasi nga dba toxic fans nila saka walang takot. na adapt lang sguro ni coach vren, RRQ ceo nga pumapatol sa mga fans eh. sa PH puro lowkey lang mga ceo

[@rustylarry7465]

Mamsh almost never worth it magsampa ng kaso tungkol sa defamation.(especially in this case since wala naman talaga defamation nangyayari sadyang hindi lang matake the heat yung sinasabi sa kanya ni bang kumis) sayang lang oras at pera at baka maging public enemy no. 1 ka kapag rineveal ng kinakasuhan mo sa public na may cease and desist siya natanggap, etc.

[@user-cm2dr8hi7t]

ganito talaga pag papalapit ang playoffs gagawa ng issue forda hype'

[@skyler_lee]

lahat nalang ba ng bagay pampahype basta malapit na mag playoffs? 😅😆

[@drakath6880]

sa tingin ko naman hindi yan pampa hype lang kasi sa indo yan eh, at rrq pa. kung sa ph nangyare yan, mas maiintindihan ko pa eh HAHAHAHAHAHA JOKE

[@jay_pluh]

Mpl id kailangan pa ng hype? Tapos sa rrq pa nangyari? Hmm?

[@john1691]

Anong lawyer lawyer,suntukin mo na coach niyo idol IRRAD HAHAHAHAHA

[@doug.mp3]

Vren is the type of Na server Philippines which sometimes I found was a crybaby.

[@devvv4616]

di porket pinoy, kakampihan mo na. daming import na pinoy coach at players, wala namang problema. siya lang meron.

[@notjade.d]

Ang kalat! Ang competitive talaga sa Indo… grabe yung toxicity!

[@LolLol-hu1rm]

Competitive lng naman sila sa katoxican, trashtalkan at yabangan😂 pero kung sa macro, mico mechanics sa Ph yan

[@lararex]

tolong subtitle bahasa inggrisnya 🥺

[@Nawa98764]

tenang sini aku bantu. Nang indo kat lalkag lakok nai yinak iyt wakonoi sinai RRQ vren binang kanai tobrut lanang sinakapnak tinei. naahh begitu lah kira kira

[@borutouzumaki7753]

it's unprofessional from vren, and he's unnecessarily overreacting by threatening to bring this to court which escalated the whole things up

[@mohmmadnoreppie1000]

Di kaya may pa tourna lang sila coach vren vs that content creator. For the hype lng toh? Parang doggie lng manghype. ????

[@selocha4367]

Dogie trashtalks MLBB related, he knows the limits. Vren's bashing is personal, especially with the el lawyer thing

[@Lina-ud8sq]

Idk how they do it in Indo. But as far as I know here in the Philippines, the truth or falsity of your statement regarding a person are usually immaterial in a defamation lawsuit because what matters is the upholding a person’s right to public self-esteem. So yes, in a sense - coach vren can actually sue for defamation. Should coach vren have held in his temper and toned down on posting? Yes, 100% Is he allowed to defend himself against content creators who are obviously targeting him blatantly? Absolutely. Madaling sabihin “let go” when it’s not us pero kanya kanyang bottomline lang yan.

[@ex0rcisttt]

You forget the fact that coach vren is considered as a public figure being the head coach of one of the largest indonesian organization and public figures are subject to criticism by the public even the content creator, they cannot be too onion skinned and sue every individual who makes criticism against him in order to correct his acts. He knew the consequences of being the head coach of one of top teams in indo having the largest fanbase. He can sue for defamation but I doubt it will yield a favorable result.

[@Lina-ud8sq]

@@ex0rcisttt yes he’s a public figure and not a public official. He can sue for defamation if that’s what he really wants to. Being a public figure does not entail that he loses his right to preserve his good name or reputation.

[@LuminousHDX]

Bro bang kumis always have been like that he's always roasting teams/players/coaches if they're bad and he's just quoting from Maxx and a lot of people knows about it because Maxx is the one that tells all what happened in BTR S10 bang kumis is just roasting him for what happened in BTR S10 because RRQ is in the same situation, like bang kumis said vren should've just clarified or go on stage to help RRQ instead of being on social media Some of that you need to know : 1. Vren can sue him for defamation but it will be not favoured for him 2. His disappearance from MPL stage will just not benefit him a little bit if he does sue for defamation 3. His reputation will be bad/tarnished if he does sues bang kumis 4. If Vren makes a clarification video all of the drama will be gone already but he just had to get butthurt 5. Look at all the PH players/coaches in Indo, even though they always have got roasted by bang kumis (Irrad recently got roasted, Kairi and yeb for losing in M5) or netizens they keep trying to improve and prove that the haters and bang kumis is wrong 6. He's a public figure so he should've be a better person and just try to clarify or just prove them wrong by going on stage in MPL and helping RRQ 7. He tried to defend his name just because a content creator is roasting him? That's not a good attitude at all 8. He's in RRQ he should've known better before making all this drama

[@Lina-ud8sq]

@@LuminousHDX bro, I don’t actually care whether or not Vren will sue or whatever Bang Kumis does to his platform or what Max said. I came here to point out three things- 1. Vren can sue. That’s his call. He may or may not win, that’s not for all of us to decide. That depends on his lawyer and court. If he wins, Bang Kumis learns a lesson. If he does not, Vren learns a lesson. Simple 2. Bang Kumis “roasting” him may be seen as a personal attack. Because like I said, depending on the person. Just because others can thrive off of his roasting doesn’t mean that it applies to all. Of course he is entitled to his opinion and free will. 3. Ultimately, everything depends on a person’s personality and his own bottom line. It doesn’t matter how other players or teams react. That’s literally all I’m commenting on.

[@Catpaws-gm4bg]

​@@Lina-ud8sq even if Vren sue him what Bang Kumis said is based on what really happened right now. He quoted Maxx statement and Vren is really not in MPL stage since RRQ really has low chance to go to playoffs. Law of defamation in Indonesia only apply if what Bang Kumis said is false and he spreading it for hate speech. As the law said "If the content is an evaluation, opinion, or a fact then it isn't a defamation (page 11)"

[@Cyrex.2000]

Imagine nyo si Bigotilyo ay parang si Rendon or makagago ,,mahilig yan mangpuna ng mga sitwasyon. At tsaka no. 1 hater po yan ng RRQ at Evos si bigotilyo.hes not a fan

[@doniepantouw6316]

RRQ paying USD 25K monthly for man who spending time siting and laying on his room watching social media. Hahaaha amazing 😂😂

[@grze95th]

pinaka madramang coach, daming ebas kasi tapos naiyak naman pala, dati sinabi pa na see u MSC feeling agad, tapos ngayon playoffs halos di makapasok. lol daming issue agad

[@kookiekook493]

From what i understand, RRQ fans might be disappointed with his attitude. Kasi dapat up until the last game, dapat ina uplift nya yung players para at least to finish it good. But, maybe Vren is drowning with all the hate.

[@James08807]

May attitude si VREN pansin ko sa mannerism nya and in the way pano sya mag salita kahit nung kasagsagan palang ng M5

[@axwelll777]

Don't talk anything about Coach Vren! Or she will sue you Veenus 😂😂 I said she cause that dude is so sensitive 🤣

[@jrayDujenio]

ui, comprehension is not a baisc skill. lalo na sa mga lumaki sa fake news era.

[@iKenSeeU]

Too biased

[@salamjr.9101]

Bang wise can you translate to indonesia i don't understand 😢

[@weaky2913]

request this to djy mas

[@RezandaEkaNugroho]

english translate please

[@kenlopez7960]

This is simple.. they didnt get the Filipino Humor.

[@_ValkyRia_]

sobrang legit, F Fb sobrang toxic.. tamang YT YT lng.

[@pajinagalwinmarki.9102]

Vee lowkey triggerring. 😊

[@anggoroadmojopradiptaningt134]

When i see this i see a lot of comment ( in english) supporting how the coach are doing.., ahahahahahah dude... he basically has a bad manner from the ghosting to the gave up when rrq still has chance even i dont think they will get that chance... but you were suppose to be on rrq side as a rrq coach.. so whyy a lot of biased comment here...

[@anggoroadmojopradiptaningt134]

So for those who dont know actually there is not a lot people who hating on vren i will say not as much as when vren made the IG stories... its because vren is not showing on stage so they cant blame the lose to vren... but after that stories a lot of people was MAD... i meann OUTRAGE.... about why vren surrender.. and yeah this is what i want to add..

[@someone.89]

english sub pls 😢😢❤

[@alanbo859]

English sub plzzz

Please give English sub😢

[@philiplimoffwhite3261]

Nag THANK YOU SYAA KC ND N SYAA PINAG COACH MGA BUNAK

[@Sandyy1600]

Mas bonak ka , bakit ka mag papasalamat kung inaalis ka sa dapat mong trabaho, ano yun binabayaran na coach na walang ginagawa