LGR - HTC Vive - VR Headset Review

[@rerez]

The sheer look of joy on your face during VR driving made the whole video worth it. :D

[@LGR]

Haha, and the sheer joy I felt while driving made the whole system worth it :D

[@TheCgOrion]

Wow, Kennith, what incredible generosity. I think it's safe to say that you win the crown of best viewer. Thank you for giving LGR the Vive, so we can all see his take on it.

[@mariojw1]

Can we talk about how his genuine reaction at 8:10 was so great I actually want a Vive even more now.

[@XGames-94]

Eight hund.... eight hundr.. Eight hundred dollars gift for a youtuber! Does this Kennith live in a mansion?

[@mollyawesomeness3572]

He probably does.

[@bowrey118]

Maybe he got it free himself, to review or some other reason.

[@RussellTeapot]

"that is only a months pay"...only. But I guess with some saving you can afford it

[@RussellTeapot]

Jessey Lawson I don't know, to me it seems a lot, I would rather spend this money for something else..maybe a new computer

[@MrSciencepony83113]

It's worse in Canada, here if I want one I need to pay around $1200 for it plus $10 or so for shiping.

[@SamsonSilvo]

It's funny how "Roomscale" play with handheld motion controllers is now basically the standard for VR with even Oculus (now Meta) having incorporated it into their VR hardware. Valve and HTC made the right call in the long run.

[@TrojanFoxx]

Company I work at got Vive about a month ago. I wasn't expecting much, so after trying it for the first time I was pretty much blown away. It's really immersive. Still, I wouldn't get it for myself yet due to lack of games. Besides they're probably going to release updated version in a year or two. Would be better to get it then since there's going to be a lot more content for it.

[@realsentientpotato]

Lots of games are getting vr support

[@tommy93hun]

God that laughing at the end was priceless

[@Firevine]

I think that laugh at the end sold me. Now just to sell my wife on an $800 porn viewing device.

[@matthewrease2376]

Just remember, no one said you had to keep the monitor plugged in... ;)

[@LGR]

If you'd like to see my much longer and more in-depth video on the Vive, it's right here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5ytfqCwgbVqpck

[@filmsbycarrie]

i experienced the vive at play expo Glasgow just a few weeks ago and i am in love with the idea of vr now. before i was curious but i had watched a few youtubers get motion sickness with oculus and it really put me off as i get motion sickness with quite a few first person games anyway (it sucks) but i had none of that with the vive and even though i can't afford it just now it is definitely on my wishlist for the gaming collection we have. xxxx

[@mattforbes7833]

The Lab because Valve because fuck Half-Life

[@JGreen-le8xx]

I use my old Vive religiously. Elite Dangerous and Fallout 4 VR are my staples for VR goodness.

[@paulnash9851]

£935 in UK. No games, have to upgrade my ENTIRE system for god knows how much + this version will be obsolete within around a year and a half. No thanks....

[@Liamer01]

It comes with games for free on Steam

[@Yusuke_Denton]

I'll be upgrading my PC in anticipation anyway, but will hold off on the VR itself.

[@zer00rdie]

Sounds like you've got some obsolete equipment. Maby time to upgrade anyway?

[@ButtonWalls]

VR right now is for early adopters

[@slinkey123]

£690 from PC world / Currys in store.

[@Psythik]

I love how you tried the same things I have in VR, like putting one controller into the hole of the other and looking into the sky when launching the confetti.

[@ysucae]

I love how he's laughing and having a blast in the racing sims; I can definitely see how VR is made for that experience. Looks amazing! (and maybe VR could help people that have a hard time driving? food for thought)

[@4468]

Wow you have some awesome viewers! Thanks good guy Kennith for hooking Clint up with a Vive, you rock! Great review too. I'm really hoping VR will take off; as an old skool gamer it's something we were promised was the future for so long and now it's here, that sense of scale and presence you describe blows my mind, I can't wait to see what it feels like. It'll have to come down in price before I can buy in to it but still I'm so excited to try it :)

[@shanedeleon5376]

ugh imagine how great a VR SimCity would be, where you could literally pick up and plop buildings with your hand

[@iriasu1667]

Free? Damn. How generous of you, Kennith.

[@1997AlexB]

Looks like you're having a lot of fun at 8:16. You laugh is very contagious.

[@PaulBoland]

Kennith, I am really touched at the gift you gave to LGR. Fair play to you, that was an awesome level of generosity from you.

[@LGR]

Likewise, he's just a really awesome dude :)

[@JomasterTheSecond]

I'm so happy for that there Transparent PNG ya made. Also, SWEET REVIEW, DUDE!

[@shawdawg3675]

That's the thing about the Vive vs the Oculus. The Oculus says it's VR, and you do see it through your eyes and it shows a lot, but to me the Vive seems more VR cause you can move around, use the hand controls to interact with items and look around with the headset, it looks like it feels more realistic and interactive.

[@eukaryote-prime]

I surely can't afford to be an early-adopter, but a couple of the Google Cardboard experiences with a cheap box w/straps were enough to make me take a good long look at my credit card. Even with the poor mans cardboard experience, I was amazed how much you find yourself lost in the experience, that it becomes your world. Kind of like how you're really aware of the 3D in a 3D movie for a bit until you start to forget it's even there (thankfully).

[@FroztiProductions]

omfg your cackling at 8:10 is the best thing ever HAHAH

[@yellingkimber8829]

This is the VR that the Sims have had in their lives for ages. :O I had serious Sims vibes with the video in the corner of you playing.

[@Gamma-wu2fj]

October 2024. I just got an original Vive 8 years later. I've been having a blast with my newfound Vive coming from a Quest 2.

[@pl31416]

Hahaha that laugh at the end... Clint your videos are freaking awesome man :)

[@AwesomeCrackDealer]

I've been waiting for someone whose opinion I utterly trust to pitch in on the Vive. It's so great to see you so excited about it. It's sad I probably won't get my hands on one for quite a while since the conversion from dollar to real is about 1:4, but oh well. At least we are closer to THE FUTUREEEEEEE hahaha

[@NicholasMarkovich]

The last time I was this early, the UK was still in the EU

[@rabidduck22]

hilaris n orign

[@oxenford539]

The UK is still in the EU. Article 50 hasn't even been submitted yet.

[@1310up]

This is funnier each times ... NOT

[@lostevesy]

Great comment ...

[@RussellTeapot]

the last time i read this joke, it was old already

[@Charok1]

You and VR are the perfect combination for a review of the Retro Arcade program.

[@LGR]

Yeah, I cannot wait til the full thing is out! The demo is awesome.

[@Charok1]

Lazy Game Reviews A "New Retro Arcade:Neon" review would be great when it comes out. When I buy the next gen VR, this game is the first I'll play.

[@PeachyPixel28]

I love that the background games to this review are just LGR breaking stuff in different games

[@tsuikagura]

This was the first video, like ever, that made me want to buy a VR headset :3 I've been binge-watching your videos for weeks and am getting an awful lot of shopping ideas... (I even bought an IBM ThinkPad 600 in almost mint condition just to play my old DOS games :D) Ah Clint, you're such an influencer... you should have your own shop or at least be directly sponsored by someone who has one...

[@aaronboothproduction]

I have the oculus CV1 and I love it. I have heart issues so I am fine with most of my games being seated experiences right now. I cant wait until the fall when they finally release their oculus touch controllers. If you havent tried VR - ITS LIFE CHANGING. The giddiness I felt the first time I used it is something I havent experienced since I was a child.

[@dickhuntz6962]

That final clip of you in the racing game laughing and looking around constantly reminds me of my old home videos seeing myself and my brother reacting to Christmas presents being opened. Some real shit is happening.

[@urinstein1864]

Dude, thank you for adding the meters. That's culturally sensitive of you and really helps me out. Greetings from the other side of the pond.

[@crunkplaya6929]

Why haven't they simply implemented floor pads where you can press forward, backwards, left, or right with your foot to walk so that games could be more immersive? All of this "teleporting" seems redundant and is hardly different from what you can do on a Wii. I've seen the treadmills also for VR gaming but obviously find their production very impractical in terms of how expensive and large the final product will be.

[@LGR]

Floor pads or any other movement with a controller like that are THE easiest way to get motion sickness. It's just an awful idea and doesn't work. I've heard better results with treadmills, but as you said it's hugely expensive and hugely.. huge.

[@bungobogus8132]

www.virtuix.com/ Well, there is this.

[@crunkplaya6929]

Jacob Cummins This was exactly what I was referring to in the original post, I've seen them play Fallout 4 on that thing and it's amazing and I would get so much use out of it considering that I never fast travel in Bethesda games. I will definitely get an improved version of it (because one will inevitably come out) but my motive with the floor pads was to suggest a quick and simple solution.

[@RegularTetragon]

+Lazy Game Reviews also because you're not physically moving you still get motion sick.

[@LGR]

+Crunk Playa69 Well, motion sickness in real life doesn't work the same as it does in VR. In reality, your inner ear senses movement and tries to keep you from barfing. In VR, if you're not physically moving along with what your eyes are seeing, then it screws you up badly. I don't get motion sick in real life with rides or boats or car rides, but in VR I do in a heartbeat if the movement isn't done correctly.

[@northbynorthnorth]

Please tell me there's a Lt. Barclay program in the works for this thing.

[@scottaw1981]

So far I'm super impressed with this one, the Oculus is a bit more novel and experimental. They seemed to put a lot of effort into this model, adding modular parts is also a nice touch. I kind of wish there was more of a natural movement instead of the teleporting. I'm sure you can physically walk around, but sometimes space is more valuable than equipment.

[@indeimaus]

Dude, I love the office - I don't know why it just looks relaxing as hell

[@LGR]

Thanks man!

[@hamblok0]

Tried one at a VR meet up in the city I live in and I'm completely sold on it. Definitely think I'll wait until the next gen Vive comes out, though.

[@elviswjr]

I watched this video when it was posted almost two years ago and now that the Vive is $200 cheaper, I'm finally going for it. I'm glad I waited too because for my very first VR experience, there's so much more to do now. There's even full body trackers now. I can't wait to buy them and see my virtual body walking around. I still can't get over how far the technology has advanced in just a few years after an eternity of stagnation.

[@PatoCrioyo]

Loved this review. It actually got me excited about this system again. After upgrading my PC, this is my next purchase.

[@GloriousMotherlandGaming]

LGR, Were there any VR experiences that you tried besides the three you highlighted that you got to try when meeting with Valve?

[@LGR]

Sure, I talked about each of them in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/romwoHikg9WVebM

[@Hawkwreak]

800 dollar piece of equipment... Given it for free?! Kennith, you are clearly a madman, And I thank you for your helpful madness.

[@Ponimaju]

Sounds like you're having so much fun with that and Project CARS., just goofy laughs of pure joy. Awesome.

[@mslita09]

Wow! Someone gave you that $800 Vive for free??? Holy crap! That's amazing :D

[@0xenfree90]

This is what pure joy sounds like. 8:11

[@SpoonDono]

Your new office looks very nice!

[@LGR]

Thanks!

[@FloowSnaake]

I love you keep up the good work! i cant wait for another good will vlog from you!

[@BauTekIndustries]

Heck yeah, Vive is awesome, had my first VR LAN party with a friend that bought one. One thing we didn't screw with is sit-down simulator stuff like DCS or Project Cars. Do you notice any motion sickness playing things like that?

[@RetroPowerUp]

I feel like racing games would be the best experience for VR. Looking around your car as you are driving would be super useful.

[@LGR]

Yes. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3XRkJevmJ6dpNU

[@RetroPowerUp]

+1, just watched it! That looks like so much damn fun!

[@Darusamon]

Could not agree with you more. Possibly the best $800 I've ever spent, at least on my hobby.

[@mentalplayground]

Best VR recommendation I have seen so far. (I have played with Rift)

[@Vixpine]

had a chance to try one of these out at a nearby overclockers shop. was a amazing experience. husband tried it, wants to start saving up for one lol. which i'm totally behind. since E3 we've had announcements for new VR games, the proper sort of things we're hoping for. and yes, its super gimmicky, but its the kind of gimmick that makes me smile because its THE FUCKING FUTURE. its pretty much the most fun piece of sci-fi tech that people have imagined for years in various forms, but in real life. and i love it.

[@MaxineAndrew]

Wow, impressive review! Your descriptions are gold! :D

[@LGR]

Thanks!

[@zacharygustafson8714]

They are actually four-way treadmills now, which I can see being extremely cool to have with something like this. 'Course it probably costs as much as the Vive itself to make one, but it would still be cool.

[@Goreface69]

I wonder what happened to the Virtuix Omni, I thought that was gonna go in tandem with the Oculus, but now if they haven't already come out with the Omni they should get on that, this VR boom might be short, I don't know...!

[@moosemaimer]

One thing I didn't know (this may be different on the Vive vs. the Rift) is that your headset and your display need to be connected to the same graphics card, which if you're running an SLI/Crossfire setup means you don't get to use a single HDMI port on each card. I fixed that with a $15 DisplayPort to HDMI cable, but if your headset just showed up in the mail and you want to get it fired up it can be a real buzzkill.

[@JonnyGTi180]

Would be so cool if you would re visit VR. it's come so far and so much more accessible now

[@stephenchandler1132]

Freakin love LGR, I don't think there is a better presenter anywhere.

[@Dukefazon]

Damn, I would love to try the driving games in VR.

[@Oddlyoko2K]

FPS games with movement sensors remind me of the old Nintendo Wii playstyle, few people actually liked those things back in the day so I guess it's more about the thing on your head than the actual hand simulator.

[@PFBM86]

So how did you get around the glasses issue? Did you just play without 'em? That's something I never really considered about VR, so thanks for bringing it up. I'm blind as a bat without my specs so I don't know how well I could enjoy VR if I couldn't wear them.

[@LGR]

I just played without them! Since I can see relatively clearly in the range that the VR lenses focus things, I was able to. Otherwise, I'd use contacts.

[@GotoTechReviewsChannel]

I liked watching you with Pool Nation VR throwing all the beer bottles and pool balls. This is quality entertainment at its finest, and I'm being dead serious.

[@LGR]

If you liked that, you'll love this :D kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6CwmWScpdiLhpo

[@GotoTechReviewsChannel]

Yes, saw that one too. I could watch several of these. My side still hurts... :D

[@Teab8g]

Where the words VIVE are on the head strap. Pull the gray parts away from each other and turn. This will extend the headset for users with glasses.

[@robintst]

Motion controls by themselves were only destined to be the fad that they were with the last-gen consoles but dual near-perfect 1:1 motion sticks combined with a VR headset has the potential to find them a practical long term home for specific genres. It almost seems perfect for god games like Populous or SimCity. Or a completely standalone game based on the Chao Garden from Sonic Adventure 2. Or a Godzilla game where you can destroy cities with the swing of your hand and fight the military and other kaiju. Hell, even games like Myst could find new life now in VR.

[@LGR]

Agreed so much, there are tons of possibilities like that. God games seem like a perfect fit for VR. Quite a few Myst-like games for the thing already too, it's a pretty neat experience!

[@swishpronoob]

sweet controller juggling sir!

[@sylvansorrow]

I am actually waiting on my Vive to be delivered today :D

[@sooooopernate]

Have you had any problems with excessive blurriness? I fiddled with all of the adjustments but find that the sweet spot is VERY narrow. Am I doing something wrong? This seems to be a minority opinion, however I have found some 3 party programmers are developing "supersampling" apps to combat this. Thanks as always, love your channel.

[@LGR]

Absolutely, and I go into more detail about small issues like this in my more in-depth Vive review video. It's not public yet, but it goes up Monday!

[@TDPEquinox]

project cars looked so fun in vr.. i might have to acquire some "testing" hardware.

[@MegaManNeo]

You're too owner of a Driving Force GT, Clint? HIGH FIVE! THIS THING IS AWESOME! :D Seeing you playing games with this in combination to the Vive makes me really jealous somewhere, next to the tower defense game and The Lab, this is what makes me wanna pick a Vive at some point.

[@akkando]

For glasses you can pop out the round knobs on the side and twist them to make more room for glasses. It's easy to miss.

[@LGR]

Seems you've misunderstood my problem. Those knobs only adjust the distance/depth of the lenses, it does not make the actual physical headset any wider. My problem is the headset itself does not fit the _width_ of my glasses, it has nothing to do with depth.

[@theichytype]

Clint do you still play VR games? I have the Vive but honeymoon only lasts few months, so I'm considering selling it... due to lack of contents and most experiences are mind blown but last up to few hours at max that's it.

[@hulmankool5333]

Finally, something that can parallel the amazingvirtual boy.

[@Dreadjaws]

Man, this will be awesome to have in a decade, when I can afford it and it's obsolete!

[@807D14M0ND5]

Just 7 short years to go!!

[@phoenixoleary6414]

This looks awesome! Sadly the price of it plus a beefy PC is too much right now. But I enjoyed watching you play. Your enjoyment in the virtual world seems to be like a child playing his first video game. Do you plan on doing some gameplay with the Vive in the future (I.e. IKEA or hover Junkers?)

[@LGR]

I uploaded a video of me playing Project CARS: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3XRkJevmJ6dpNU May follow up with some more though, yeah!

[@tapehead3832]

If you have a VIVE and want a good wave based shooter, try Front Defense VR. Or if you want multiplayer battles, try Front Defense Hero's.

[@chimerschang]

Good news! Oculus officially removed the DRM from games on their store, so you can play Rift games on the Vive now! You still need the third party software, ReVive, though.

[@SammeLagom]

Hey Clint!! The best Oddware vid! I hope you do a Doom, Fallout 4 and Skyrim VR review when the time comes :-D

[@Muzer0]

Wow, just the thought of playing an immersive Valve game in VR is impressing me.

[@arandomsciencedude]

you should totally check out audioshield if you want more games, it's super fun

[@LA3DPrinterRepair]

This. Is going to move some VIVE units. Way to go LGR.

[@FrankieHiltz]

Damn I really want one of these. It's taken me over a year to get my current PC built due to budget restraints. I've passed the VR tests, now I just need to come up with the other half.. The headset >.> In Canada though, they're about 1,100$. Fucking hell

[@Myllkka]

In Brazil they are R$6.000... Who need's a car or to eat amright?

[@SimplyMavAgain]

I have a question though. What is up with the trackpads on the controller? What are they there for and how do they work? Don't they work like the steam controllers pads/regular touchpads? Because looking at them that's what they seem to be. But then why doesn't anyone think about using them to emulate the left stick of a controller? It works just fine on the steam controller and I constantly use them for such things. And I think it's a better and less unimmersive option than teleporting around most times (though the teleporting mechanic works really well in games like Budget Cuts, too.) Still it got me thinking if it even is the same kind of trackpad.

[@LGR]

About the same as the Steam controller, yes. However, what you're talking about is the worst thing in VR. Moving without your body moving, or without some kind of a game of reference like a cockpit, results in instant motion sickness for most people. It throws your sense of balance off and makes everything nauseating.

[@SimplyMavAgain]

Thank you for the reply. Well I'm almost immune to motion sickness. So I hope that's gotta be an option for some games. Really looking forward to games like Elite Dangerous in VR though.

[@Jason-wo5rr]

got to demo this at my brothers house on a recent vacation and it's awesome! That's hardly objective but it really is and you really can see how it's the future (as predicted in lawnmower man) so if you have the money, time and space it is so worth it otherwise wait. Personally I don't have the space to dedicate to this plus I want to see how the VR market develops but it was really fun and like I said it is worth it if you have all the necessary resources to dedicate to it. Also, like in lawnmower man I feel markedly smarter after using it along with homicidal tendencies!

[@deanlillie7140]

The circles on the side of the headset pop out and can be adjusted to allow for wider glasses to fit.

[@LGR]

I showed this in the video, so I am aware. However, that's not the problem. What prevents me from using my glasses is the frames are physically too wide to fit inside the actual headset.

[@deanlillie7140]

I shot that comment off a bit early, almost as soon as you mentioned it in the video, sorry! I'm hoping down the track that prescription lens inserts will be made for people who need them since even if they do fit they limit FOV to a degree.

[@CaptainBBS]

that smooth lgr voice

[@Jcriptobeta]

You playing the car game, your laugh can cure cancer, Mr LGR.

[@Meoiswa]

Try Battle Dome if you haven't, its very alpha-y and primitive but its the most fun I've had in a multiplayer game in a long time

[@patbrown911]

When the Manus VRglove comes this thing will be perfect. At least I hope so...

[@Horzuhammer]

Virtual Project Cars looks super rad.

[@jbizzle8491]

Vive + VR Pornhub + Fleshlight = frequent moonshots...

[@30LayersOfKevlar]

So you recommend VIVE after you played with it a lot. But would you buy it yourself if you weren't given it for free?

[@LGR]

Absolutely, and in fact, I had an order in for one before this one arrived on my doorstep!

[@formerlycringe]

I want an HTC Vive... With VR Gloves instead, I feel this might be better than having 2 controllers. the Gloves would be used for games that would require more accuracy or hand motions, like PROJECT Cars or Job Simulator. The controllers could be used for other games, like Minecraft or Sonic Adventure, or even Super Mario Galaxy 2.

[@Yusuke_Denton]

If the gloves are good enough, you could have virtual controllers for the other games.

[@sebione3576]

the thing that sold it for me was you laughing like a child who just discovered the monkey bars for the first time.

[@Macho_Fantastico]

I still remain far from convinced VR really is the future. Just gives me a 3DTV vibe from it. Maybe I need to experience it myself.

[@silicongraphics]

If you like VR stuff, you may want to check out the google cardboard. Its nowhere near as impressive as the vive or the gear, but its very cheap and works with most phones.

[@LGR]

Already have, and it kinda sucks... Talked about it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGfYf5mhjtuMl8k

[@silicongraphics]

You are right in that it does kinda suck, but for $15, you have to cut it some slack. The other thing that i like about the cardboard tho, is that practically anyone can use it without haveing to spend hundreds of dollars on a gaming pc

[@Cyberbrickmaster1986]

I'm thinking about getting a VR headset for Christmas, but I'm not sure whether to get one on PC or on a console. If I get one on PC, I will have to buy a new computer for a hefty cost, and still will have to put in a lot of money for a headset. If I get it on console, there's a strong chance I'll only be able to get it on the Playstation 4 by the end of the year, as I don't think a VR or AR headset will arrive on Xbox One in time before the holidays. Also, I've been switching towards the Xbox One, because the Playstation 4 doesn't have enough memory and has no support for external hard drives, where as the Xbox one does support external hard drives and is currently releasing a 2TB slim console this August. Unless I can somehow get 2TB of disk space on a Playstation 4, I won't be able to switch back as finding a 2TB hard drive for the PS4 is not very likely where I'm from. Can anyone help me out with this?

[@critical2210]

Cyberbrickmaster1986 PCMASTERRACE

[@THEfogVAULT]

Everybody's complaining about no games/shit games for VR... Meanwhile, in the real world store.steampowered.com/search/?sort_by=Reviews_DESC&vrsupport=101%2C102 If you cannot afford it or are not interested in it - don't buy it. The technology will get cheaper and more accessible as the user base grows. Those claiming there is no user base - look at popularity of Gear VR and PSVR, or at just how much money the porn industry is starting to make off this technology. Oh, it's only a gimmick you say? So were smartphones before Blackberry/Palm. Touchscreens before the iPhone. Electric cars before Tesla/Toyota/BYD. Action camera's before GoPro/Woodman Labs. Bluetooth until every major phone manufacturer adopted it. Even computers themselves were seen as a gimmick by most people in the early days due to their cost and size. War helped reinforce the importance of computers to those who could properly comprehend their significance. People who dismiss something as a gimmick without trying it, or just out of a desire to see it fail; are stupid.

[@critical2210]

You sir are a genius

[@GenerationBlackMist]

Love your videos. You bring me happiness

[@tc16169]

Hi Clint- just wanted to say thanks for this review and your more in depth overview as well! They helped persuade me into buying one last night. There was a deal on Amazon for the Vive, the Deluxe Audio Strap, Fallout 4 VR, and a $100 Amazon gift card for 600 bucks, which is what the Vive alone goes for normally. It was too good of a deal to pass up :) PS any thoughts about doing an updated review with that Deluxe Audio strap and the updated game situation?? There's a lot more out there now :)

[@000Gua000]

So how did you solved glasses problem?

[@RBRat3]

Most likely contacts or an old pair that fits...

[@Irisfantasies]

he said that it was enough space between his eyes and the lenses so he could see just fine

[@kingtrav]

I absolutely love my Vive. You should really check out Battle Dome!