My Newest Live Set up // Ableton Live / Model 1.4 + FX

[@LiamKillen]

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[@bikesbeersbeats]

You may want to consider replacing the rmx1000 with ableton plugins on send channels with macro mappings, that would allow you to create almost any combination and eliminate a piece of hardware! Tom Cosm has a nice ableton template that does exactly this there are insane combinations of effects. But personally just for the cool factor I'd also do the octatrack 🙃Thanks for putting out such high quality content. Questions/Thoughts... 1. Did your model1.4 pots loosen up over time? I find mine to be really tight and its almost hard to make quick transitions without feeling like I am going to twist off the knob. 2. The advantage to using ableton with the m1.4 is you can set levels beforehand so slamming between channels isnt an issue. 3. Simpler is better, with the novation it means one less power plug and the push I feel is over complicated for straight triggering but needs separate power.

[@LiamKillen]

It’s funny you bring this up - that’s exactly what I’m looking into these days

[@danfozmusic3046]

I put an RMX on back order for March, love the idea of having out board fx for the Ableton set 🤘

[@LiamKillen]

yessss!!!

[@kathleencoveny3860]

Your approach is always organized and easy to follow .. with the many synths you support and give a shout out to ... a match made in heaven as you share your insights and creative juices with your audience .. many thanks .. cheers !

[@LiamKillen]

Indeed! Cheers

[@MilesKvndra]

This is awesome buddy! Great insights in your set that gave me some inspiration too, thanks for that 🙌🏻

[@LiamKillen]

Cheers Miles! Thx for watching!

[@oliverlopezofficial]

As the RMX-1000 has balanced inputs (TRS), why don't you simply plug the XLR Master Out from the Model 1.4 into the RMX-1000 via XLR to TRS adapters? This way, you would have a balanced signal path to the RMX. The master outs from the mixer seem to be otherwise unused in your setup

[@LiamKillen]

Yeah since making this video i've discovered this myself!

[@TJ-bx5px]

This is the new way og live music. NO more Pioneer CDJYS DJ shit. now we want real live produced EDM

[@LiamKillen]

😏

[@fiftyfathoms8182]

How do the filter sound quality and the overall sound quality compare to the xone 96? I was wondering as this mixer is almost the same without having the audio interfaces and midi control as well.

[@LiamKillen]

I’m not sure how they compare but the model 1.4 is fully analog and everything you do through it sounds ridiculously good

[@TheStreamingShed]

Thanks, really interesting setup, I have A&H db4 which I was thinking of using in the same way. I've been trying to use it has a hardware FX unit but can't work out the mapping...

[@LiamKillen]

Yeah i'm using NI X1's now with Traktor ... inspired by a Richie Hawtin set up.

[@TheStreamingShed]

@@LiamKillen ah ok interesting, I’m having to use an old laptop because the drivers haven’t been updated for the db4, so just seeing what software I can combine, Traktor being one of them. I watched your hybrid/ modular setup video and saw the X1 there right? I was wondering if it could map to Abelton too…

[@krazywabbit]

The only thing I care about is what my ears hear and how the body responds. I have never seen a piece of gear and start cutting a rug. Great job and keep having fun!

[@LiamKillen]

Thank you and thanks for watching!

[@GlitchComputer]

The “oh gOd” took me out just now!! 😂 Also I freakin love this thing?!

[@LiamKillen]

Haha thanks for watching!

[@jarvisbdx7753]

Hello ! Top video, thanks ! One precision please : how do you connect your RMX-1000 to your Model 1.4 ? I don’t see any cables between them … you don’t use the S/R & the Master Output. Thanks in advance.

[@LiamKillen]

the master out of the model 1.4 is plugged into the input of the RMX 1000 :-) I now use XLR cables from the back master outs because it's a stronger audio signal.

[@kensiu1833]

Hi Liam great video, thanks for sharing, one quick question: you mentioned the Rmx1000 is in-between the Model 1.4 and the speaker, does it mean you can not monitor the effect via headphones? And why not connect it to the S/R port on Model 1.4? Thanks.

[@LiamKillen]

It doesn't really work well in S / R port - I find that the RMX-1000 really works best as a live performance master FX tool and I actually haven't seen it used in any other way.

[@barbaroja.mp3]

filming in most clubs is not allowed in Berlin...might turn some people off but that lends to help people to focus on the music than documenting the nite and to be less concerned and let themselve go. Nice setup and clever way to go about it despite not liking the RMX 1000 at all

[@LiamKillen]

Yeah a lot of performers talk about how it completely changes the vibe of the night for the better ! :-) And thank you! :-)

[@Mirsoooo]

Liam, instead of the FF MX-12 you could consider the Novation Launch control XL with its 8 faders/channel controls. ✌

[@LiamKillen]

Very tempting

[@kiqidj]

Whoa I haven't thought of using the Record Out for the RMX - how do you record the audio of your sets then?

[@LiamKillen]

Out of the RMX and into the Zoom H5 ! :-)

[@kiqidj]

@@LiamKillen wow I didn't even know that was possible 🤯

[@AVCOME]

Hi Liam, i have 2. choice for delay pedals for synth and guitars. Can you please help me and give me your tought. 1 choice ( lvx ), 2 choice ( empress echosystem + polymoon ) Choice #2 second hand is almost the same price as choice 1. Choice 1 is never available on second hand market. I have been suggest choice 2 because more easy to twick. Thank you

[@LiamKillen]

Oh man tough choice ... I would go with choice 2 though, personally :-)

[@kiqidj]

I heard from someone connected to playdifferently that we should turn off the master filter when not using it - any thoughts on that?

[@LiamKillen]

Yeah they might be right - especially when the resonance is turned up (like it is here)

[@kiqidj]

@@LiamKillen yes I keep it up pretty high, too 😁 The filter is always on in other people's videos, too, but that guy told me to keep it off in between mixing, so I do.

[@michalsupak1217]

Please can you tell, what is this device in the left down corner on the first pic from Ohm? White backlighted faders and knobs with blue and red buttons? Can't find it anywhere. Is it a midi controller? Thank you!

[@LiamKillen]

Everything I used in that set up is covered in this video ! :-)

[@leetronix]

👍Hey Liam, I love the Model 1.4 mixer that is a great piece of gear. Like how you keep things clean and simple, keeps everything more focused with no distractions 😁

[@LiamKillen]

Exactly how I like to do it!! Thx for watching 😊

[@user-rj6vb9wi3v]

Sick setup. Have you ever considered using an Ableton Push? It looks like you have a lot easier access to everything you need, but it wouldn't take up too much (imo) more space than the launch pad.

[@LiamKillen]

Yeah push 3 got me like 👀

[@user-rj6vb9wi3v]

@@LiamKillen if you're not going DAWless (or if money is a factor) a used push 2 will get you like 95% of what a push 3 will get you. I always want new gear even if I don't need it, and while the push 3 is enticing, I somehow don't feel the "push" to upgrade. Push 2 is an amazing option as well.

[@robinr22]

Totally agree with this - I bought a second hand push 2 a couple of weeks ago. Was shocked by how much Ableton functionality is locked behind it.

[@Whataboutyou_0]

sorry I would like to know if your presentation set up, do you use the motu and connect it through the model 1 booth output and in your studio through the model 1 DB25 output to the apogge, or am I routing it wrong?😅

[@LiamKillen]

I'm using the Motu as a source to play audio from Ableton - and use the outputs from the Motu to connect into the Model 1.4.

[@Whataboutyou_0]

@@LiamKillen thanks for answering, I was a little anxious because I didn't understand it

[@Calamindir]

Novation monocircuit USB cable going into the EC4?

[@LiamKillen]

No it’s going into a USB hub -> Controlling things in Ableton

[@djdontgetcooked]

Hey, Liam! I recently tried Logic Pro on Ipad(it costs 5$ a month 🤯) with my mpc one and microfreak I would say that it works quite well. This is the most dawless daw setup I've ever used and I really liked it. This is just a suggestion for a future video

[@LiamKillen]

Something to consider! Thanks for letting me know!

[@ankurjohriddsmd]

Do you use a motu ultralite interface to connect model 1.4 to your computer/Traktor /Ableton? What cables do you recommend to convert 1/4 inch on interface to rca input on the model mixer?

[@LiamKillen]

Yes that's how I used it ! I would just recommend an appropriate snake - 8 quarter inch to 8 rca.

[@djason_music]

Push 3 to get the advantages of the laptop for prep, and then no laptop to perform??

[@LiamKillen]

Believe me…I’ve thought about this hard haha

[@djason_music]

@@LiamKillen oh i believe you. :P i look forward to the vid when you do it

[@maxceelen2202]

do you feel like ableton's warping algorythm messes with the transients of your loops?

[@LiamKillen]

It def softens them a bit

[@oscarjmg]

Ok, so what about this for future iterations. If you remove the pioneer and change it for the sp404mk2, you could first use it as performance effects, master effects, and even you could load your fills into the sampler of the sp404 and launch them from there.

[@LiamKillen]

The thing about the mk2 is that it isn’t great for builds. Here’s a comparison between the mk2 + RMX-1000 actually: kzbin.info/www/bejne/apumZmB4ZbpgfKc

[@Franciscosonur]

hey the fx are applied to the whole master channel ? or you have control over the individual tracks in ableton? cheers

[@LiamKillen]

Both! Depending on what you mean. The RMX-1000 is what i'm using for master FX - I also have Ableton FX / channel if I want to effect individual instruments.

[@Franciscosonur]

thanks for reply @@LiamKillen

[@phantazzor]

what about replacing the faderport by a xone k2 ?

[@LiamKillen]

that's certainly an option :-)

[@maxceelen2202]

great video, interesting setup!

[@LiamKillen]

Thank you for watching 😊

[@laughingthrushmusic5269]

What sample rate/bit depth are you running?

[@LiamKillen]

I don't even know lol - the standard quality I guess ?

[@mikedubz5576]

Ohhhhh man you nailed it! My only real gripe Besides ylthe sll Black scheeme and those slippery sleek loss like faders. My main and biggest gripe is the fact there is no insert to the main out for integration of a Master 3 band or 4 band isolator. The Master iso is a power full tool for Building drama! You can use the rmx 1000 Master iso and modify its use inside the settings but nowhere near a grade A Master iso.

[@LiamKillen]

Thank you for this! I'll def consider this! :-)

[@tehIVI40A3]

Hey I’m wondering if you get help me: I have an Allen Heath db2 and ableton, I want to route the sounds from ableton to the mixer to use the effects then route the sounds with fx back into ableton, do you know a way I could do this with usb cable or would I have to use cables ? Lmk cheers!

[@LiamKillen]

It depends on how many audio outs there are on your mixer - i'm assuming it's just a master out, so i'm not sure this is possible.

[@tehIVI40A3]

@@LiamKillen is an Allen Heath db2 so it has master out but also has usb

[@soejrd24978]

Have you tried the Akai Force? I'm thinking of buying it since its all in one box with support in almost eeeevery feature I'd want. It also has great clip capabilities like how you're using Ableton here. I don't want to interact with a classic pc/daw when just playing music, so thinking of the Akai Force. It's either that or (what I have right now) model samples + 2 monosynths + a big midi controller to control reaper on a raspberry pi (no screens or anything).

[@LiamKillen]

Haven’t tried it yet!

[@jamieseifried3253]

I think it's a good thing filming isn't allowed in most of the german Techno Clubs. It just keeps it a safespace which i think also stands for the Rave scene. But as Dj i understand the pain of not having cool footage of your set. Anyways keep on grooving 🤙

[@LiamKillen]

Yeah it's just a different experience - I like the idea too.

[@mefailljumanoski679]

on the MOtu are you using an 8 channel TRS to DSub?

[@LiamKillen]

I am!

[@mefailljumanoski679]

@@LiamKillen have you played around with the mastersounds valve mk2?

[@mikedubz5576]

What soundcard are you using and do you think a firewire 400 or 800 good enough by rme Or a New version worthy of this mixer?

[@LiamKillen]

I'm using the Apogee Ensemble but have recently integrated the TR-8S into my set up and now that's what i'm using as an audio interface as well.

[@evelic]

Whats the advantage of a set up like this instead of a turn table set up? I have yet to find an ableton setup that sounds as smooth as a turn table set up. Am I missing something? These types of set ups look really interesting, but not sure how good they can get compared to a turn table set up. Adding the factor that Ableton setups seem much more complicated.

[@LiamKillen]

Well ... you're 100 % right - you'e not really gonna find anything smoother than a turntable set up. It's just the easiest way. Hardware set ups are more for producer / performer types, who maybe write their own original music that they can then perform with their hardware / Ableton set ups. Or people who just like to explore / create something from scratch, rather than spin / remix things that have already been created.

[@timbotimbertim]

Really considering the Model 1.4 for a live set up and using the send with my Analog Heat + Fx. Do you think this would be a good pairing? Do you think it's worth the price tag? Seems a bit steep compared to other mixers but you're doing a great sell job on me 💸

[@LiamKillen]

That would be an amazing combo for sure. The cool thing about the model 1 / model 1.4 is that it works in a DJ context, it also destroys in any sort of hardware set up and encourages you to...play differently 😉

[@danielweitzenfeld7758]

Hey man did this work? I read somewhere that there might be phasing issues if you use heat (or any distortion) as send+receive. Or do you have the heat out go back to the mixer as its own track?

[@tylerkumpee2176]

Had a set up similar to this 10 years ago

[@LiamKillen]

I'm so behind bro

[@nomad1517]

Please make a series on DJing with live. I know deadmau5 and a few others do it. It seems only good if its your own material and not for weddings or night clubs.

[@LiamKillen]

You are exactly right on that one

[@r3dsnow757]

Hello Liam, this might be a tough question as they are different beasts but if you had to choose between the OP1 and the digitone which would you keep? I'm an OP1 owner but because of OCD i'm constantly worried that it might break or that it's never living up to it's value. So i'm considering selling it for a digitone. If i didnt have to worry about the money, i'd keep the OP1 but the fear of it breaking will always haunt me.

[@LiamKillen]

Personally, i think the digitakt is much closer to what the op-1 is. If you were to switch it would make more sense. I also highly recommend that you make that switch 😏 but that’s just my take

[@r3dsnow757]

@@LiamKillen I'm more of a synth guy than sampling 🤔, but i'm aware of the steep learning curve of the digitone.

[@grillmeisterflash]

Hej Liam, got a request for a new video, could you do a "how to add swing on the SP404 Mk2 Sequencer" Video? that would be amazing, there is no good video out there explaning this

[@LiamKillen]

I’ll consider it!

[@manuelarguello3013]

super nice video!

[@LiamKillen]

🙏

[@hasenakkhaya]

as a newbie, one thing i m strugling to understand. you decided to use an interface with multi outs, and an analog mixer to to apply effects to each stereo out. why dont you just use another midi controller to imitate your model 1.4 mixer, doing the effects just in ableton and so you can use a standart audio interface with just 2 outputs? no critism, just full curiosity. please help, anybody. is it just a personal preference, or there is a good logical benefit behind it? kinda the same question for the pioneer effects unit. but at least that does not require an audio interface with many outputs.

[@LiamKillen]

Yeah you can totally do that - it's just he quality and touch that won't be the same. You can't beat analog!

[@schmapps1]

Ok I mean absolutely no offense but I thought you were like 5"7 for some reason haha. Finding out you are 6"2 is weirding me out 😂

[@LiamKillen]

A lot of people have said this lol

[@sensorialradiony]

I Know a DJ, CYLOCARL use the same setup with a Launch Control XL, he is not using the FaderFox

[@LiamKillen]

oh cool

[@diegopalomarelectronicmusic]

a gated reverb witch sounds good on drugs? 😂

[@LiamKillen]

😅

[@isaac.anthony]

Berlin clubs are strange, i'm glad people feel free to do whatever they want, but i really don't want to have to watch sex acts on the dancefloor, WTF?

[@LiamKillen]

It didn’t happen the night I was there lol

[@isaac.anthony]

@@LiamKillen they have nights in SF like that, but it's marketed pretty heavily toward a certain demographic, i avoid those clubs/parties.