Liberty vs Obedience and 6 ways to tell the difference [THE ESSENCE OF LIBERTY PODCAST]

[@annkatrinhellkvist3736]

I have been around horses for many years, and im 60+. I always felt that something is wrong in the way we treat our horses, and been looking fore different training methods. Im glad that there are now more scientific ground based training to relay on. I do feel a bit novice in this way of training, but im trying my best. I do hope that the horseworld is one the right path, and people are more open to change their ways😊

[@SheilaHensley]

Very interested in your methods and will be listening to your poscast to learn more. Great observation of the difference between obedience and liberty. Makes perfect sense.

[@SydneyDeLeon-lc1ks]

I’m a western rider who uses almost 100% pressure & release type-training for first saddlings, tricks, and overall. I loved listening to your perspective on this, without necessarily shaming anybody. Very educational. I’m glad you also mentioned how there’s a place for obedience, whereas some strict +R trainers claim any of it is inherently wrong. Who knows, I might try true liberty one day.

[@angelawolgast2960]

I call it questioning and answering. 😊

[@Fizziepop]

Always fun. You should have a bigger following. Thank you!

[@vivrenate3310]

Hi Nadine, lovely podcast!

[@TooSickToDressVictorian]

14:50 ”So ’yes‘ means absolutely nothing unless ’no‘ is an option“ absolute banger quote! Amazing podcast! (Rewritten because youtube didn’t let me edit the other one)

[@DianneStrickland-uj4iw]

06l 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@emerwatchorn6971]

Great pod cast. Thank you.

[@nadinelindblom]

@@emerwatchorn6971 thank you, I’m glad you enjoyed it! Many more episodes to come 🤩

[@KathySierraVideo]

This is wonderful, Nadine! 💪🏼😍. I had a visitor this week whose “Liberty” experience was exclusively the more “natural horsemanship” version. I explained to her that the NH style of “liberty” works to convince the horse that even though they are free of tack, the human can STILL “get” them, so it is not freedom. And that true liberty is exactly the opposite… working to convince the liberty horse than even when we add tack in a liberty context, they are still free… that we still won’t “get” them. Yes, there can be contexts in which we decide it’s not appropriate for them to be free… contexts in which they need to be obedient, but horses are great at learning that different contexts have different “rules.” I personally prefer that my horses do not always link tack to obedience, but obviously that’s a personal choice 😁

[@KaylaEdits-Eq]

Yayyy love this

[@earthrooster1969]

Loved listening to you... I come from dog training background and no wonder there are a gazillion dog trainers who create great videos yet it's not secret that people are still struggling with their dogs. Just like how your horses were losing interest in wide open spaces, dogs too feel much more engaged to their real world surroundings than their human handler.. Loving listening to all you have to say..will mull over it to figure out how in some ways it can be applied to dogs.. Apart from all theories, observation of our companion animals reveal so much and it's upto us how we connect with our own presence to theirs...

[@emerwatchorn6971]

How often do you plan on doing your podcasts?

[@nadinelindblom]

@@emerwatchorn6971 there will be two episodes released per week for the next 3 weeks and then it will be one per week from there 😃

[@emerwatchorn6971]

Hi Nadine, is the online academy a monthly membership with on going connection to contineous content or is it a once off payment and like an online course to follow?

[@nadinelindblom]

@@emerwatchorn6971 hi! The online academy is a once-off payment or 6 monthly payments. You receive lifetime access to the core program (4 modules) and several bonuses as well as access to the Facebook community groups where you can ask your questions 😃 you can find out more here: www.nadinelindblom.com/academy-new The free masterclass on how to begin liberty with your horse, also gives you an insight into the academy and my philosophy: www.nadinelindblom.com/masterclass-registration

Would love to have the documentation that says the dominance theory is outdated and incorrect. Thank you.

[@LChl-j4s]

Look up L Davd Mech himself renounces it

[@nadinelindblom]

Sure :) Here are some of the resources provided in Module 1 Lesson 4 "Herd Dynamics: Leadership & Dominance" in The Essence of Liberty Online Academy: Study: Hartmann, E., Christensen, J.W., McGreevy, P.D., 2017. Dominance and leadership: Useful concepts in human-horse interactions? Journal of Equine Veterinary Science, (2017), doi: 10.1016/j.jevs.2017.01.015. Study: Bourjade, M., Thierry, B., Hausberger, M., Petit, O. (2015). Is leadership a reliable concept in animals? An empirical study in the horse. Plos One, 10:e0126344. Study: McGreevy, P.D., Oddie, C., Burton, FL, McLean, A.N. (2009). The horse-human dyad: Can we align horse training and handling activities with the equid social ethogram? The Veterinary Journal, 181:12-18. Book: Horses in company - Lucy Rees Book: Equine Behavioural Medicine - Dr Bonnie Beaver Book: Equitation Science by McGreevy, Christensen, König og McLean (2018) Book: Solving Equine Behaviour Problems: An Equitation Science Approach by Rose M Scofiels (2020) Website: www.equitationscience.com/position-statement-misuse-leadership-dominance (Several additional resources/references here in this article!)