Lichtlaerm Audio "The Key and The Gate": unlock your tones!

[@RtyuiAEIOU]

wow its like tighten the low end and make low mid more pleasant

[@AidenCantrell]

It almost sounds like it adds a slight bit of gain to tighten up your tone. Will definitely have to get one of these in the future

[@robertmeyer8735]

The difference is sooo noticeable!! I'm definitely going to try this recording technique. Sadly I won't be getting this pedal, I have a SENTRY gate(TC). Again that difference! must be some magic circuitry in there!!! Great job

[@dizzengrey4901]

Been following you for a few years , great gear reviews and amazing guitar player. Was looking for a good gate pedal in the EU, placed a pre order straight away! Thnx mate :)

[@randomguitarnote8887]

Your guitar playing is awesome my friend.

[@LucasEklund]

Sounds amazing! :D now i'm really curious how the recording sounds with the Boss pedal instead, how about a comparison? :D

[@mityaIvanov2023]

niceeee!!! Thanks!!!

[@jhonpasquez6145]

Do we need the 🗝️

[@Rushtallica]

That sounds great. 8) My original Decimator actually makes the Fluff amp sim sound less good. :D Hopefully the new KMA Machines Pylon will be similar and won't cost too much.

[@luisbarrera7248]

This sounds like it boosts certain frequencies. Which is a good move on their part since ALL noise gates affect your sound in some way. If you don't like the spike just lower the presence. Im definetly getting one.

[@theophany1770]

Unfortunately the website has expired so not sure how to get this pedal. Any ideas?

[@pimvandervliet]

Wow, now I'm seriously considering one of these pedals. It's sold out now sadly, and there is no indication of when it'll be available :(

[@danielringl8501]

The next batch is finished like 90%, just waiting for new enclosures to arrive which should happen within the next 1-2 weeks :) you can also just use the contact form on the website to contact me directly!

[@BratislavMetulski]

@@danielringl8501 der ist auch überall 😂

[@NeZversSounds]

Now I'm going to build myself a mini buffer just for that bonus feature.

[@e.g.systems6146]

It's a winner. Definitely has a "sparkly" effect on your tone. As for greasy knobs.... each to their own, but if it makes you happy, good for you :O) This one is on my list. Grow the beard!

[@toemasmeems]

Lmao oooooh yeah greasy knobs

[@jyun7360]

I wonder if your signal clip in the interface preamp stage？

[@BUDSLAYER666]

How do you think this compares to the zuul?

[@danielringl8501]

they're quite different in design: the Zuul always has this choppy modern metal feeling to it due to a fixed release time. The Key and Gate adjusts all it's parameters to your playing in real-time and thus reacts to sustained notes a lot better while still being capable of the choppy, modern staccato stuff :)

[@willchug]

This is the beast, Absolute Number #1 (Thanks Daniel) love your ⚙️ 🇦🇺

[@montag4516]

Can it be powered by an internal 9v battery? And can it be used as a standard in-path noise gate for times when the key in/key out is not connected or needed?

[@UncleBarryLovesU]

Did you take down the studio set up video?

[@MilianMalivukMusic]

Not exactly sure which video you mean, would probably be outdated anyway😄

[@UncleBarryLovesU]

Ah. Yeah you had an old studio tour video a while back where you showed your gear and what you recorded with, I was scrolling through your channel and I couldn’t find it. Didn’t know if you deleted it or not.

[@MilianMalivukMusic]

Can do a 2020 tour ;)

[@UncleBarryLovesU]

Soulhenge oh please do. That’s like asmr for gearheads

[@kaxisa1]

Great video man. I have a question on the rg7421 upgrade you did a while back. How hard was it to change the nut? I want to change mine on my rg7321 but i have no clue how? Any tips or links i should follow? Cheers!

[@MilianMalivukMusic]

Keith Axisa That's super easy, they pop out with a little tap of a screwdriver, just lightly glue the new one in place, if it's too high just put it flat onto a sheet of sandpaper and remove some height at the bottom

[@SouthShine01]

Hi men, do you think a DI box can make the same buffer effect?? thanks

[@Rushtallica]

Very old comment, I know, but in case any may come along with similar thoughts, It may be that a pedal that is NOT true bypass and that has a decent buffer, and that's plugged in but not even turned on may provide a similar buffering effect.

[@flexyofacechase1786]

How long of cables do you use? I was using a 20ft cable and noticed my guitar was dead straight into my scarlett 8i6 gen 3 and so I found a rock Monster Cable that was 12 ft I had, and it made a difference, now I'm wondering if this is the issue everyone is having with their Helix or Helix Native, people share presets and their tone is too bassy or dull. I wonder if a 10ft cable as well as a buffer before the interface is the ultimate unlockable..

[@MilianMalivukMusic]

At home I use 3 metres or even just 1,5 plus a very small patch cable. Guitar jack cables are unbalanced cables, they do loose quality the longer they get, but I don't think the difference is noticeable between 3 or 1,5m though.

[@axeltnl3910]

hi, if you want to sell this pedal contact me please , it is not found

[@jotunbjorn]

Is the input setting LINE or INST on the interface?

[@MilianMalivukMusic]

jotunbjorn I always have mine set to line, the gain adjustment is more precise then.

[@MilianMalivukMusic]

@@KahruSuomiPerkele I just compared, there's a difference indeed, but it's rather subtle. Thanks though!

[@MilianMalivukMusic]

@@KahruSuomiPerkele I remember now why I don't use the INST mode, because I have to put the gain so low to have a non clipping signal but then it's starting to making it weaker actually, especially with hot humbuckers, digging into the strings.

[@jotunbjorn]

@@MilianMalivukMusic Oh? I just have the gain at 0 always. Most my pickups reach -6db just fine.

[@dizzengrey4901]

Was also having this gain issue with my 2i2 at first and also use the line. Tho it would be more obvious to use the instrument setting.

[@endconnr]

It sounds great but explain to me why I wouldn't just buy an NS2 to get the same effect if they do the same thing? Is this pedal coloring somehow or what is it doing differently from the boss?

[@danielringl8501]

the output buffer is much more sophisticated - it doesn't color the sound itself, it just alters the output impedance so that any signal loss is avoided. You will not get the same effect out of the boss which has - due to it's de-essing purpose - more of a blanket over the amp effect. Also the gating on the K&G works by far better!

[@idiotburns]

Use a valvulator by Fryette/VHT

[@LiterallyAPear]

can it be used as signal splitter?

[@danielringl8501]

kind of: it has a built-in splitter but one of the signal always goes right into the detection envelope that determines the functionality.

[@nordgrenjoakim]

Hey man! I love your channel! A question, do you record DI first and then "re-amp" with Overloud or do you record the amp directly inside of Overloud? I'm just curious what effect having a noise gate in front might have on a DI-recording (I don't own a physical noise gate myself so I can't really experiment) :)

[@MilianMalivukMusic]

Joakim Nordgren I record DI in Logic Pro X, so in fact I could always dial in a new sound if I want to (very handy for mixing)

[@nordgrenjoakim]

@@MilianMalivukMusic Okay! I was basically wondering how big of a difference it makes recording a DI-track with a physical noise gate compared to using a digital one (in an amp sim). I feel like the digital noise gates are usually pretty bad. Also, could it be risky recording DI with a noise gate in front in case you might cut too much of the frequency spectrum out? It might just be me worrying too much though :P

[@benjaminmichaut9996]

Thoughts about Neural DSP Quad Cortex and/or Line 6 Pod Go ? (great vid btw)

[@MilianMalivukMusic]

Benjamin Michaut I think the Neural Quad Cortex is really promising, however the price really put me back to the ground. The POD Go has my interest, I was thinking more and more that the Helix LT was too big and too heavy, the the POD Go seems to fill the rather big space between HX Stomp and Helix LT!

[@bonny-cavalier]

@@MilianMalivukMusic Neural DSP has free trial versions for 2 weeks

[@jojoyear]

@@bonny-cavalier Lol the quad cortex is a hardware pedal...

[@dieterpete93]

Ich habe das gleiche Soundproblem, wenn ich die Gitarre direkt ins Interface sende. Der Sound ist echt unklar und "muddy" in den Tiefen, trotz Fishman Fluence Modern PUs. Deine Lösung scheint genau die richtige für mich zu sein! Hat das NS-2 einen ähnlich deutlichen Effekt auf den Di-Sound? Das liegt nämlich eher in meiner Preisklasse :D danke vorab und viele Grüße aus Essen!

[@MilianMalivukMusic]

Das NS-2 hat einen ähnlichen Effekt, ja ;)

[@niklashallberg4422]

So it's a Fortin Zuul with buffer? Or is it?

[@danielringl8501]

Nope - it's a completely different approach than the Zuul (and has also been on the market quite some time before the Zuul): the Zuul has fixed parameters to make the one knob operation possible while the K&G has a quite sophisticated envelope follower in the key/side-chain part which adjusts all parameters to your playing in realtime. In direct comparison the difference is huge: the Zuul is a good pedal with wisely chosen parameters but is a solution with a lot of compromises in operation as well as in that you need an external splitter to use the key input!

[@niklashallberg4422]

@@danielringl8501 OK...cool! :) Thnx for the reply/info. Will keep this pedal definitely on the list when looking to update from my TC Sentry at some point. Nothing against the Fortin stuff but kinda wanna support the smaller builders when choosing my new gear. Cheers!

[@danielringl8501]

@@niklashallberg4422 Thanks as well :) Yeah - Fortin makes some quality stuff, no doubt! It's just hard for smaller builders to compete due to their huge marketing budgets - especially when it comes to YT which is a pay-to-play thing. Also I guess you can imagine how weird it feels when people ask if you cloned something that hit the market later then your own product :D especially the first time was super strange as I've never heard of the Zuul back then^^ Cheers and have an amazing weekend!

[@hogblockula9335]

Sounds like it also works as a booster haha

[@Spark-xu1mu]

Hog Blockula thought it too

[@danielringl8501]

@@Spark-xu1mu It does! It has an additional trim pot on the inside to dial in the amount of boost :)

[@NeZversSounds]

It seems pretty much the same as Glen Fricker's Cockblock except it's not limited run.

[@danielringl8501]

@@NeZversSounds and except it has first been released in 2016 (so even before the Zuul^^) - also one major difference is that it's parameters are adjusted in real-time by your playing through an envelope follower (and a quite sophisticated one): if you play staccatos the hold/release time is automatically super short, if you play sustained notes the fade envelope stretches as well! That actually makes it a completely different kind of pedal, as it's not an actual gate but a noise reduction system, the cock blocker (as well as the Zuul or a lot of other pedals that popped up subsequently) is just a pedal interpretation of the built-in gate from different Marshall amps: fixed attack, hold & release values and built around a THAT4301, I saw you're into building stuff yourself? Check this: www.thatcorp.com/datashts/dn100.pdf it's a great piece of information and basically what 90% of the modern gates are built around (with potentiometers swapped for fixed value resistors).

[@Vaizard451]

This Vs Misha's horizon overdrive pedal? What are your thoughts?

[@Makron220]

Overdrive vs noise gate, you cannot compare that.

[@Vaizard451]

@@Makron220 true.

[@ErebosGR]

@@Makron220 The Precision Drive is an overdrive and noise gate pedal...

[@AlextheBant]

Dude, 1: if your sound is so much darker without a buffer, then your signal path is really bad 2: A buffered pedal boosts your signal whether on OR off, it is not normal that your sound brightens up so much when you turn on the gate and that is exactly what i wouldn't want a gate to do: affect my sound 3: Their site says it's true bypass, and thus not buffered It's very weird as their site mentions it's a completely transparent pedal, and they mention nnothing about EQ or a boost, while in your video the pedal legitimately sounds like you turned on a tube screamer.

[@montag4516]

Yes, unless there's an internal switch to select between true bypass or buffered bypass. Apparently it does have an internal trimpot to adjust overall pedal output/boost.

[@ErebosGR]

It sounds like it's a booster pedal with a noise gate. That highpass filter and mid-boost is very characteristic of a TS-style pedal.

[@davijons984]

@@ErebosGR The author of the video simply did not enable inst mode in the audio interface, so the pedal acts as a di box, and that is all.

[@pagl3120]

Nice! Will there be any cheaper/behringer pedal that does the same function?

[@DougieD_Funk]

90 seconds of stompbox. 6:00 minutes of talking about stompbox. :/

[@riffinpeace6667]

189 euro thats expensive

[@mik0r0r]

klaer mal dein kamera-fokus, diggah. mieseste quali auf 1080p auf youtube oida

[@MilianMalivukMusic]

Ok digga

[@mik0r0r]

@@MilianMalivukMusic leider #realtalk