Lies of History About Ancient Indians - Aryan Migration Theory DNA Analysis - FutureIQ

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@TheFutureIQ
@TheFutureIQ 5 ай бұрын
Books mentioned in the episode: White Man's Burdon: tapthe.link/WhiteMansBurdonBook More videos for you: India's overpopulation explained: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZvYo2l4qphjj68 Ancient India was 3000 years ahead: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWXTfZKjorqYjKM Science of Indian languages: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnK2daVmo9p8nJY History of Indian food: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGKodKNuhNKmrqM
@incubusk8r
@incubusk8r 5 ай бұрын
Since you are educators, please, please check your typos. It's "White Man's Burden," not "BURDON."
@lawrencerichards4073
@lawrencerichards4073 5 ай бұрын
Didn’t talk about Tamil language. He must be an Aryan.
@ripsanskrit3609
@ripsanskrit3609 5 ай бұрын
​@@lawrencerichards4073 😅Maybe he didn't wanna talk about natives but rather what came in
@dom4068
@dom4068 5 ай бұрын
Didn't speak about Vagesh Narasimhan research.
@venkatkasireddy884
@venkatkasireddy884 5 ай бұрын
Totally bogus guys, they literally connected it back to white man’s story. As per white man’s story those people in Middle East came from caucuses. Their timelines also match up. Lot more respect to those creators who publish silly shorts & tiktoks.
@TilikumMolly
@TilikumMolly 5 ай бұрын
I am Indonesian, but the test results show that my DNA comes from China, India, and Australasia. So, not only did we import the 3 major religions, sanskrit alphabets, rice, weaving technology, temple architecture, cooking spices, etc. from India, but also our phenotypes and genotypes were also partially inherited from India. Thank you for everything :))
@sohelsaheen
@sohelsaheen 5 ай бұрын
TRUE
@zachbercu3230
@zachbercu3230 4 ай бұрын
I think you meant Tamil. Most east Asian languages are inspired from Tamil script and not Sanskrit. Sanskrit has more ties with Arabic and some European languages but not south east Asian languages.
@TilikumMolly
@TilikumMolly 4 ай бұрын
@@zachbercu3230 Of course there is Tamil influence in Indonesia, and some believe that the influence of Tamil culture is more dominant. One of the arguments is because there is a story about the Tamil version of the Rama-Shinta story matched with Indonesian version. Even in the earliest Indian epic, the Ramayana, Sugriva, the head of Rama's army, is recorded as sending his men to Yawadvipa, the island of Java, to look for Sita. ha ha ha... Also according to the ancient Tamil manuscript Manimekalai, Java had a kingdom with a capital called Nagapuram. After all, South Indian culture spread widely since the Pallava dynasty from South India in the 4th century. But there are also many records that show that merchants from Gujarat came to Indonesia to trade and spread Islam here, so that in the end our nation experienced mass apostasy for the third time by Indians. Aha ha ha...
@stephanatlas5331
@stephanatlas5331 4 ай бұрын
@@zachbercu3230 Arabic is not similar to sanskrit at all. It's a semetic Language. And Indonesia has a huge sanskrit influence
@stephanatlas5331
@stephanatlas5331 4 ай бұрын
@@KafkaesqueBrahmins The word india came from Indus river, Arabs were non existent when India was florishing in ancient times
@shadigital388
@shadigital388 2 ай бұрын
Correction: we tamils aren't racists towards aryans. We are against their vedic era and caste discrimination
@thuchu007
@thuchu007 2 ай бұрын
Where can I find a vedic text thats mentions tamil castes like Thevars and Chettiars, mentioning them not to intermingle?
@007Sanoop
@007Sanoop 2 ай бұрын
Sage Agastya, who composed hymns in Rigveda, and composed Agattiyam, is laughing at you.😊
@ashleydean9680
@ashleydean9680 2 ай бұрын
Totally agree- well sais
@Mel-by7re
@Mel-by7re 2 ай бұрын
and its important to protect the ancient language Tamil of India. Now its clearly proven sanskrit is not from India even genetically. lets grow up and accept it. Vedas are not from India. the rituals are not from India. Tamilians are free of religion, they are open minded folks who were into real spirituality which is devoid of religion. all religions are man made.
@007Sanoop
@007Sanoop 2 ай бұрын
@@arzzhitzz Then Tamil language is not yours.
@introvert2023
@introvert2023 5 ай бұрын
There's no such thing as Pure Race and Pure Language.
@manish.dhabhai
@manish.dhabhai 5 ай бұрын
There is. Andamanese Sentalese Tribes are Pure Ancient Hunter Gatherers 100% with no DNA input from outside. They're true indian in genetic sense
@Rasimillion
@Rasimillion 5 ай бұрын
Tamil is pure language with out any language can stand
@வசந்தகுமார்
@வசந்தகுமார் 5 ай бұрын
Tamizh has
@Namse21
@Namse21 5 ай бұрын
@@RasimillionTamil/Tamizh like every other language in existence, has evolved and will continue evolving with every generation. No language is immune to evolution. A language can evolve slowly or fast depending on several factors but it has to evolve. Tamil has evolved from proto-dravidian just like the indo european languages have evolved from proto-indoeuropean and chinese langauges from proto-sinotibetian.
@satoru.nakata
@satoru.nakata 5 ай бұрын
​@@Rasimilliondravidians migrated from one part of the african continent around 6000 to 8000 bce. if tamil originated in southern part of indian subcontinent then what was the language they used to speak when they migrated to south india from africa? a language can't be formed on its own out of nowhere without from the previous language. so if you're right then dravidians might have stopped speaking their previous language and directly made a new language (tamil) out of nowhere and labeled it as pure language? how ironic?
@jaikrishnansathish2156
@jaikrishnansathish2156 13 күн бұрын
2000 years ago itself Tamil poet and philosopher Thiruvalluver written about farming, politics and democracies.
@americandoctor5356
@americandoctor5356 5 ай бұрын
I'm from Punjab and my ancestry DNA analysis says 78% Central Asia-South, 19% North India and 3% South India. The 3% South India is quite strong as I love Dosa and Rajnikant movies. :)
@EIPepe305
@EIPepe305 5 ай бұрын
They're not going to list Aryan on a DNA
@TheGeoChronicles
@TheGeoChronicles 5 ай бұрын
Jats were Central Asians or Anatolians who settled in india during indo Greek wars or hunnic period So I guess you're a Jatt that's why you have central asian dna
@lianaminasyan1783
@lianaminasyan1783 5 ай бұрын
Are you forgetting about the Armenian/Aryan/​@@TheGeoChronicles
@KRISH57676
@KRISH57676 5 ай бұрын
From where did you get your test done ? And is the service available in India ?
@klila16
@klila16 5 ай бұрын
They are based on recent genetics. Originally my results showed 3% Persian DNA and 47% North indian (I am half indian). Now it has been changed to 10% South Indian and 40% North Indian. So you can see the ancient Iranian lineage is now considered a founder effect and has been changed to being indian DNA in my current results.
@Defusedben
@Defusedben 5 ай бұрын
Okay! In my opinion, we are here, we belong here, we should all live together, no matter the caste,creed or gender.
@urbanmonkNH44
@urbanmonkNH44 5 ай бұрын
That was how it was, till the Ariyan migration happened!
@CHRS-ri5mf
@CHRS-ri5mf 5 ай бұрын
@@urbanmonkNH44 we have evidences which predates Both Aryan migration theory and AIT. And I didn't talk about OIT in first place. UP findings near IVC unearthed Chariots, helmets, Swords etc tracks back to 2000 BCE or More. Which predates All the migration hypothesis.
@CHRS-ri5mf
@CHRS-ri5mf 5 ай бұрын
@@urbanmonkNH44 WHo told you? Yourself?
@CHRS-ri5mf
@CHRS-ri5mf 5 ай бұрын
@@urbanmonkNH44 and Study done by US,ohio uni of human sciences and IIT, ASI shows NO evidence of a migration coming to indian subcontinent OVER 8000 year SPAN
@dom4068
@dom4068 5 ай бұрын
​@@CHRS-ri5mfBut DNA evidences says otherwise. AASI is the original inhabitants. They mixed with people who came from Zagros mountains to create IVC. IVC started its decline by 1900 BC, and the Aryans or the Steppe Hearders arrived in 1800 BC. The Sinnouli artifacts shows similarities with both late Harappan (IVC) and Vedic culture. It may be better to separate the IVC and the Ganga-Jamuna culture and Sinouli is part of the second.
@baqirhemraj7639
@baqirhemraj7639 2 ай бұрын
Foreigners from the north are believed to have migrated to India and settled in the Indus Valley and Ganges Plain from 1800-1500 BCE. The ancient Aryans were a group of people who were originally from central Asia. Three thousand years ago, these Aryans settled in India, where they established the language of Vedic Sanskrit, founded the Vedic religion, and established a caste system of hierarchical classes.
@stefano1405
@stefano1405 7 күн бұрын
Well that's bullshit foreigners didn't came as imagined rather steppe groups their were no Aryan culture was Indian
@vineshv
@vineshv 14 сағат бұрын
@@stefano1405 It was not the Iranian farmers but the Steppe people whose migration to india finally led to vedic culture
@stefano1405
@stefano1405 13 сағат бұрын
@@vineshv The origins of Vedic culture are often misrepresented. Vedic culture clearly demonstrates continuity with the Harappan civilization. However, theories like the Aryan Migration Hypothesis keep evolving to fit new findings. Initially, the Aryan Invasion Theory suggested invaders brought Vedic culture to India. Later, the Migration Theory proposed movements between 1500 BCE and 1200 BCE, aligning this with the composition of the Rigveda. Recent discoveries, like the Sinauli chariots (2300-1800 BCE), challenge this timeline. These chariots are the oldest copper-reinforced chariots in the world, and the accompanying DNA evidence shows no steppe ancestry, indicating indigenous origins. Additionally, Harappan trade with Mesopotamia supports cultural continuity. It’s time to acknowledge India’s rich, indigenous cultural heritage rather than revising narratives to fit outdated biases.
@VanaraVegeta
@VanaraVegeta 3 ай бұрын
Neeraj Rai actually disproved your POV of how agriculture started in india. His peer reviewed research actually suggest that Agriculture started Indigenously in INDIA.
@amittripathi5068
@amittripathi5068 3 ай бұрын
As Grains found in Mehargadh
@blazer9547
@blazer9547 3 ай бұрын
Lmao fake stuff
@amittripathi5068
@amittripathi5068 3 ай бұрын
@@blazer9547 ha bhai ghar ka hai na to believe kaise hoga.
@Entertainmentrocks-t9u
@Entertainmentrocks-t9u 3 ай бұрын
Genetic history of human, horse and plant de diya... phir bhi Lmao..fake stuff.
@JonTodt775
@JonTodt775 3 ай бұрын
Agricultural started independently in many different places around the world
@CriticsYouBOY
@CriticsYouBOY 5 ай бұрын
What type of history it is Where south Indian were mentioned as native hunter and gathers Purposefully _ Keeladi excavation finding were skipped which say there was a parallel advanced civiliazation in TamilNadu How you missed the reserach article _ which states that Indus ppl spoke protodravidian languages more inclined to Tamil I need a reply for these , or you make seperate video ; dont hide facts
@technoyamraj
@technoyamraj 5 ай бұрын
Where is the proof that Harrappans spoke proto Dravidian ?
@vipassana123
@vipassana123 5 ай бұрын
Incorrect, the keeladi excavation is dated to around 500 bce, hundreds of years before the aryan migration
@CriticsYouBOY
@CriticsYouBOY 5 ай бұрын
@@technoyamraj research paper has come , go and read
@technoyamraj
@technoyamraj 5 ай бұрын
@@CriticsYouBOY give the link of the research paper
@CriticsYouBOY
@CriticsYouBOY 5 ай бұрын
@@technoyamraj i have read long back , study Iq has put video on it U can check in youtube
@gyapan
@gyapan 2 ай бұрын
I have a question-aside from the Aryan and Dravidian groups, there is another distinct racial group known as the "Austroasiatic people" primarily found in eastern India. When did their migration occur?
@mallutornado
@mallutornado 3 ай бұрын
Since Africans didn’t practice Hinduism or speak Sanskrit, doesn’t it mean that the Steppe herders who brought Sanskrit 2000 BC also brought Hinduism at same period. In other words, the Tamils or original people here weren’t Hindu …is that a fair statement
@user-p7thq3ch8s
@user-p7thq3ch8s Ай бұрын
NO ARYAN NO DRAVIDIANS . SHOW THOSE NAMES IN AN ANCIENT TEXT .
@javediqbal-r6y8l
@javediqbal-r6y8l Ай бұрын
What you are discussing here is well explained in Quran. When Moses went to Mount for forty days worship , some of his followers made a cow idol and started worshipping it. When Moses came he was highly annoyed with his brother Haroon and his followers. As a punishment these people were ordered to kill themselves. Allah also ordered them to sacrifice a red cow. This is the period what researchers are discussing before 2000 bc. Earlier these Jews have also asked Moses to make idols for them for worshipping. These were Jews who may have fled from Moses to avoid punishment but Quran says this happened in Syria and Palestine areas. Some Jews of same period are also settled in Iran. Barring religious perspective this information can be useful for researchers in this regard. You can see the translation of surah Al Baqra of Quran. Al Baqra means cow.
@appurock6052
@appurock6052 Ай бұрын
​@@javediqbal-r6y8l😂😂😂😂 Al Taqiya
@chandrasekhar1175
@chandrasekhar1175 8 күн бұрын
Before these steppe herders came to India there is a archeological evidences of lord Shiva statues and goddess statues in Indus valley civilization.
@talharizvi8419
@talharizvi8419 Ай бұрын
Middle Eastern farmers arrived around 7000 BCE in Balochistan, Pakistan. Mehrgarh is a site where pre-Indus Valley peoples were situated. It is one of the oldest known settlements, where people were domesticating animals and practicing farming. Archaeological evidence from Mehrgarh also includes the discovery of pottery and other artifacts
@m.sankaritm.sankarit2836
@m.sankaritm.sankarit2836 Ай бұрын
But they wrote in tamizi 😮
@springtheyounger7560
@springtheyounger7560 Ай бұрын
They didn't have scripts.
@3oranges4
@3oranges4 Ай бұрын
​@@springtheyounger7560in pakisthan there is still a language which very much resembles tamil and the language xomes from dravidian family... ❤️❤️❤️
@avinashg4974
@avinashg4974 26 күн бұрын
​@@3oranges4what the s** is Dravidian? Please first describe to us? How could an indo European sanskrit word dravida describe TAMILS? Why is it not a Tamili family?
@rockerboy4184
@rockerboy4184 12 күн бұрын
Because of non tamil south Indians wont like it and all south languages are from proto dravidian language​@@avinashg4974
@sivakumarmohan1612
@sivakumarmohan1612 3 ай бұрын
After a long time, I am seeing sensible and honest video about Indian ancestry from an Indian without religion bias!!!
@intodaysnews
@intodaysnews 4 ай бұрын
India has been attacked by many outside armies and conquered, but over time, the conquerors were themselves overwhelmed by india's knowledge and way of life. In the end, the agressors were conquered intellectually. That is why india has survived
@yesu814
@yesu814 4 ай бұрын
Whoever came here accepted india as their own country except muslims. How much ever they live here in harmony, they always think arab and pakistan as their own country
@CaptainGeek5
@CaptainGeek5 4 ай бұрын
What about the domination of modern India by the step herder (Brahman) DNA and their exploitation of the hunter gatherers even today in the form of RSS, BJP? Wake up! Islam is not the enemy, the CAST system is the biggest enemy of India! No wonder BJP is weak in the south
@Mojtala41
@Mojtala41 4 ай бұрын
The same has happened to Iran. I don't think any region has been attacked as many times as Iran. But, eventually, all those invaders became Persianized!
@stephanatlas5331
@stephanatlas5331 4 ай бұрын
@@yesu814 pakistan itself part of india ,given to them by indians
@SyedaSamanGulzar
@SyedaSamanGulzar 4 ай бұрын
Lolz. When outsiders come they bring their own culture knowledge wisdom and traditions. So the land becomes a melting pot of different cultures and races. Like many so called Indian foods are actually from Arab Iran Turkey and central Asia.
@chandrasekar3424
@chandrasekar3424 28 күн бұрын
What stops the intermixing of communities at 100 A. D.?!!. Any wild guess!!! It is nothing but the appearance of Manusmriti in the history of India. As per Dr. Ambedkar, Manusmriti was written by a samavedi brahmana called "Sumathi Bhargava" whose family name is "Bhrigu". This Manusmriti appeared during the period of Sunga dynasty. This Sunga Dynasty was founded by the king Pushyamitra sunga who was a brahmana from sunga gotra who worked as a Commander-in-cheif in the Mauryan empire. The same Pushyamitra sunga cold-bloodedly murdered the Mauryan king "Brihadatta"(grand son of Asoka) and captured the power. Thereafter under his rule, this Manusmriti was written and came to implementation.
@dadasahebukale1062
@dadasahebukale1062 23 күн бұрын
👌
@dhanusraj3718
@dhanusraj3718 5 күн бұрын
Makes sense
@vineshv
@vineshv 14 сағат бұрын
Yes Manusmriti and later additions of RigVeda stopped inter mixing
@sibichandruselvakumarsamy4583
@sibichandruselvakumarsamy4583 3 ай бұрын
Indus valley civilization is a Tamil civilization (தமிழர் நாகரீகம்) We are the son of soils of India Proud to be a Tamizh தமிழன்டா🐯🐯🐯
@AbdulRehman-j6q9h
@AbdulRehman-j6q9h 2 ай бұрын
I'm proud to be a tamiz muslim.
@AbdulRehman-j6q9h
@AbdulRehman-j6q9h 2 ай бұрын
Tamiz is the world's oldest language.
@Doriel-DeLorenzo
@Doriel-DeLorenzo 2 ай бұрын
I was born in Chicago America and have Tamil Sri Lanka DNA
@chidambaramprakash2434
@chidambaramprakash2434 2 ай бұрын
small detail, latest evidence has shown that tamil brahmins are from the indus valley so no arya vanderi spin
@sibichandruselvakumarsamy4583
@sibichandruselvakumarsamy4583 2 ай бұрын
@@chidambaramprakash2434 not tamil brahmin bro They are paarpanar (ஐயர் ஐயங்கார்) Tamil mother tongue A tamil society
@Divinatio9
@Divinatio9 13 күн бұрын
As a white man, when I learned about the connection with the Aryan migration into India and its possible connection with some sort of branch of European people, I never once thought to myself that has anything to do with superiority or inferiority whatsoever. I just see it as people being interconnected with each other and that Indians and Europeans may have common ancestors (which I think has been proven now anyway). After all, isn't that what the Vedas teach anyhow -- interconnectedness. So stop arguing for God's sake. If the Vedas are so holy, one should put them into practice instead of arguing over dead man's bones.
@krishanrathi9119
@krishanrathi9119 4 ай бұрын
Technically, North Indians and South Indians share the same ancient hunter-gatherer ancestry from mother side, with about 80% of our DNA in common and only a 20% difference due to steppe ancestry, though the percentage of steppe ancestry can vary among different castes. we are brothers.
@reachingthestars8652
@reachingthestars8652 4 ай бұрын
So true. Ram Ram from Sonipat. ❤
@Mr.UniverseVlogs
@Mr.UniverseVlogs 4 ай бұрын
But what about the prehistoric dna found in Chennai
@sajeewakalamba1796
@sajeewakalamba1796 4 ай бұрын
@@Mr.UniverseVlogs They are the pure hunter gatherers who left Africa 65,000 years ago & settle in Asia. They migrated all the way to Sri Lanka. They were in Sri Lanka by 50,000 years ago. The oldest human remains found in Sri Lanka is 48,000 years old, which is called Balangoda Man as the remains found in a cave Balangoda area. The Sri Lankan aboriginal people called "Vedda people" still live in Sri Lankan jungles, are the descendens from those who came here 50,000 years ago. The aboriginals live in North Sentinel islands (Andaman Islands) are also the same people.
@beetlejuiceapril
@beetlejuiceapril 4 ай бұрын
Only males migrated here as Aryans ……
@keralanaturelover196
@keralanaturelover196 4 ай бұрын
​@@reachingthestars8652😂 south india different look appearance and people intelligence
@iuvvuiieii
@iuvvuiieii 5 ай бұрын
The IVC was a indigenous,urban civilization with extensive international contact, trade and a sophisticated domestic manufacturing industry. The Iranian hunter gathers are part of the out-of- Africa population that stopped short on Iran. The rest continued on towards India and beyond. So, essentially the hunter gatherers are the same affected by local genetics. The ANI carries the Steppe ancestry. Post 1500bc
@Soumik-ov1pg
@Soumik-ov1pg Ай бұрын
I am Bangladeshi. I can surely say that the ancient hunter gatherers were Dravidians people.👍
@freetamilnaduandsouthfromi2984
@freetamilnaduandsouthfromi2984 12 күн бұрын
🎉
@yashchoudhary2173
@yashchoudhary2173 5 күн бұрын
You did not see video clearly😊
@Haveagodday-w8m
@Haveagodday-w8m 5 ай бұрын
Why don't you invite Neeraj Atri sir who has published research papers on this topic with scientific and genetic evidence?
@priyamtamrakar6035
@priyamtamrakar6035 5 ай бұрын
They equally ignored IIT Kharagpur research,rakhigari excavation and khambat submerged city. So they took facts distorted it and came with challnel like idea so they can proove that Southern indian and northern indians have different ancestries. + Bramhins are more aryan in every part.( Propaganda of bramhical patriarchy)
@alphaff9939
@alphaff9939 5 ай бұрын
​@@priyamtamrakar6035ok tell us what evidence do you people have ?
@michaeljosephjackson2364
@michaeljosephjackson2364 4 ай бұрын
​@@alphaff9939proof is that savarkar himself believed that brahmins are outsiders
@elizabethvarghese5511
@elizabethvarghese5511 4 ай бұрын
They said North indians and South indians have same ancestry, but with different proportions​@@priyamtamrakar6035
@priyamtamrakar6035
@priyamtamrakar6035 4 ай бұрын
@@alphaff9939 Read 2022 calendar published by IIT Kharagpur. Rakhigari excavation report.Carbon dating of Bay of khambaat's submerged city. This is only tip of a giant ice burg.
@rameshsadhasivam2093
@rameshsadhasivam2093 4 ай бұрын
Was india a empty land before hunters? No! Tamils are the original people of india!
@christopherross727
@christopherross727 4 ай бұрын
The hunter gatherers were the first no other humans were there before. You came from those people don't you get it.
@AnjelLee-f8c
@AnjelLee-f8c 4 ай бұрын
Exactly. People just started coming to this magical land from everywhere. Lmao.
@junnaredd9912
@junnaredd9912 3 ай бұрын
Tamil is a language.
@rameshsadhasivam2093
@rameshsadhasivam2093 3 ай бұрын
@@christopherross727 how do you know it was empty before hunters entry?
@rameshsadhasivam2093
@rameshsadhasivam2093 3 ай бұрын
@@junnaredd9912 Tamils the oldest ethnic group, who speak tamil
@jenneyalberts1336
@jenneyalberts1336 Ай бұрын
I am an Australian first nations woman. I found this very interesting thank you.
@aditya100yearsago4
@aditya100yearsago4 19 күн бұрын
What's "first nation" ? Logically you are the last second 🤔
@whatapp4797
@whatapp4797 4 ай бұрын
Only thing what we can sure about is that there were groups migrating to India and groups were migrating out of India. So both things happened.
@Mel-by7re
@Mel-by7re 2 ай бұрын
read and research true history to understand this.
@rameshsadhasivam2093
@rameshsadhasivam2093 4 ай бұрын
Tamil had letters but Sanskrit had not been written language before Gupta period! Why?
@drashokkumar9209
@drashokkumar9209 3 ай бұрын
Utter NONSENSE Only scripst samples surviving were on seals and stones . In Prakrita languages . Stone scripts were simple . Ancient India had many scripts for Sanskrit , Tamil , Prakritas etc . Read " LALIT VISTAR " , biography of Buddha . Gautam Buddha was taught 64 scripts as a prince . Have you heard of BAKHSHALI MANUSCRIPT - 2nd century AD manuscript which shows a refined script with shiro-rekha and very similar to SHARDA script of Kashmiri language .
@gamingwithzeeboombaa
@gamingwithzeeboombaa 3 ай бұрын
​@@drashokkumar9209so what where is sanskrit it is prakridham so ramayana mahabharat are all written 2nd century ad this is the strong truth u have to debate it
@apjvideosthebest2930
@apjvideosthebest2930 3 ай бұрын
​@@drashokkumar9209😂😂😂 Valmiki wrote ramayan in sanskrit language with use of devanaagari leepi, when rama is alive,but fact is devanaagari leepi, saradha leepi, pandu leepi, created 2400 years ago 😂😂😂soo ramayana vedas all are 😅😅😅story books
@e_jskeg9229
@e_jskeg9229 3 ай бұрын
​@@gamingwithzeeboombaa😂😂 Rigveda was written in 1900 bce do you know it?
@TheThoughtfulBiker
@TheThoughtfulBiker Ай бұрын
@@e_jskeg92291500 bc ?
@HansJuergenStellbrink
@HansJuergenStellbrink 4 ай бұрын
I think the male dominance of steppe herders in the North and their overrepresentation in higher casts might also argue for a violent take-over, followed by intermixing, as discussed for the Anglo-Saxon immigration into England. What is your view?
@Jhansi0608
@Jhansi0608 2 ай бұрын
That is how I logically interpret.
@SachinPotdar-p3q
@SachinPotdar-p3q 22 күн бұрын
Steppe herders are savages higher castes retain their dnas not mixing
@MrResearcher122
@MrResearcher122 7 күн бұрын
Anglo Saxons are a minority in England. At most 27 percent in the East England. Most British people, like the Irish, came to the British isles with the Beaker migrations, which is Stepp or 'Aryan' groups of tribes. Irish and Icelanders have the highest amount of this DNA.
@mihirjain6462
@mihirjain6462 17 күн бұрын
I am soo happy I stumbled upon this channel! I watch plenty educational youtube but felt like there was always a lack of representation from the Indian community. As someone who left India at a young age I always felt like I dont know enough about the country, the culture and the language but this is genuinely one of the best educational channels I have found, bar none. Its like a mix of Kurzgesagt, veritasium, ASAP Science, Be smart, Other words, Tom Scott, and Polymatter! I love it!
@TheFutureIQ
@TheFutureIQ 14 күн бұрын
This is such wonderful praise, thank you SO much!! Every single channel you named has been out inspiration too! And we strive to reach those heights every single week, so your acknowledgement is doubly special to us! ♥️ - Shrikant
@navsribe
@navsribe 5 ай бұрын
Very good analysis and very informative way of explaining with full engaged.😊
@thesoultrotter5316
@thesoultrotter5316 4 ай бұрын
Max Muller came from Germany. He was a scholar at Oxford and his subject was Sanskrit. We have Max Mueller Bhavan all over India which is promoting German language and not Sanskrit. He never came to India.
@ohlawd3699
@ohlawd3699 4 ай бұрын
Yep. He never put one foot on Indian soil, but he was an "expert", lol. 😂
@blazer9547
@blazer9547 3 ай бұрын
​@@ohlawd3699 he doesn't have to tho. He had his stuff to analyse at his tables
@shrutivarrier1023
@shrutivarrier1023 3 ай бұрын
He was a missionary with a mission 😁
@sreeharshayarlagadda3083
@sreeharshayarlagadda3083 2 ай бұрын
​@@blazer9547He became a scholar in Samskrutam in just 2-3yrs of study! Amazing. Just research about him He was appointed to write Indian history in colonial point of view
@VinodRathod-iv3rn
@VinodRathod-iv3rn 2 ай бұрын
😂
@sudeshkiriella-sc4wq
@sudeshkiriella-sc4wq 4 ай бұрын
Clear explanations. Bravo. Well done. Plz continue your work. Love from Sri Lanka 😊 Only one question. Since you mentioned the DNA only consists of male DNA. Its clear evidence of an invasion. If its a migration DNA should contain female DNA as well. Or according to your explanations only males had intermarried with ANI ?
@khem127
@khem127 4 ай бұрын
1000%!!!! I noticed that too!!! It seems like he's trying to say there was no invason when the Mtdna and the Dna in the people in some parts of India shows there was an invasion!!!
@sudeshkiriella-sc4wq
@sudeshkiriella-sc4wq 4 ай бұрын
@@khem127 Yeah that's the case . I think because of popular narrative these days people trying to be politically correct. The represent evidence shows there were numerous invasions, according to my understanding I think many Tribes came from the north and settled in Gangetic plain and founded 16 mahajanapadas.People can call it migrations but native people won't welcome outsiders gently. So Aryans had to fight with the locals. They were one of the best archers and horse riders. Warfare is not a new thing for them.
@jazup26
@jazup26 21 күн бұрын
Aryan invaded India. They beheaded thousands of Buddhists monks and killed Buddhism and started caste system in India. Pushpa Mitra Shungha was the first Aryan king of India. He was first a close associate in court of Gupta dynasty and he eventually killed last heir of Gupta dynasty and declared himself the king. Then the killing rampage continued. Some say Nalanda was burnt by Aryans too as Khilji's route was no where near Nalanda.
@princek6135
@princek6135 14 күн бұрын
No
@VivekBisht856
@VivekBisht856 6 күн бұрын
It was greek buddha who killed Hindus, Ashok also done it
@remaru3948
@remaru3948 4 ай бұрын
Interesting how they leave the African out of “ancient hunter gatherer” DNA and Middle eastern DNA. 😊
@veronicajohnson3853
@veronicajohnson3853 4 ай бұрын
I have seen many people from India with darker skin; I believe you have a lot of African-origin DNA. You did not mention the African Black race.
@samaalehiil3221
@samaalehiil3221 4 ай бұрын
🤦 in case that all people would be african - the population in africa has also changed - & So the initial population that left africa are the ancesters of all three populations the study mentions make up the genetics of the people in the asian subcontinent.
@thelastshallbefirst6531
@thelastshallbefirst6531 4 ай бұрын
For one, I don't believe Noah's Ark is anywhere near the Caucus mountains. If they journeyed from the East back to Babylon, then the Ark would have had to land on a high mountain range such as the Hindu Kush.
@krzysztofkarolak633
@krzysztofkarolak633 4 ай бұрын
@@thelastshallbefirst6531 you right. 8 ppl spread around the World and started new civilization? Nonsense.
@TrollinOn22s
@TrollinOn22s 4 ай бұрын
I believe Dravidians which are the darker skin Indians are the ones who arrived in Indian.
@MATAK-sq3pp
@MATAK-sq3pp 5 ай бұрын
I must say thank you as the dialogue was so clear & without confusion. And above all enlightened.
@SantoshK.Mangalore
@SantoshK.Mangalore 4 ай бұрын
I'm not an expert on any of the subjects discussed. India that is Bharat. May i suggest that [1]you use the words like Northern India and Southern India rather than North and South India. [2] Suggest dropping the use of the word 'caste' and use words like 'social segments', as the word 'caste' appeared just 250 years by the Colonists. [3] The civilisation that developed on the banks of the Saraswati River, dispersed/ resettled in many directions, after the sudden drying up due to tectonic plate events. [4] The anomaly of same DNA patterns found amongs brahmins (vedic sanatan) and some tribals like Gonds (animists), etc [5] The mythical origin of the Abrahamic Religion from Abraham & Sarah and (a)brahm & Sara(wati). Uncanny simililarity!!! [6] it would be preferred to use the word central-asian rather that Cacausian. [7] The discovery of religio artifacts around the Globe, similar to the ones found in Bharat. --- your feedback would be appreciated. सत्यमेव जयते
@DesCoutinho
@DesCoutinho 4 ай бұрын
The linguistic link between Abraham Brahma and Sarah Saraswati tickled me. Aurobindo had argued I may misrecall that the foreign gid of ecstacy Dionysus was etymologically linked to the Deus if Nyssa in India. And it's followers bacchants to the bahkti tradition of the lord siva
@venkateshvamshi
@venkateshvamshi 22 күн бұрын
India is home to many ancient temples and has been long time. Over the years, various peoples have merged into this country. Ultimately, what I want to express is that all humans are same and equal
@CHRS-ri5mf
@CHRS-ri5mf 5 ай бұрын
we have evidences which predates Both Aryan migration theory and AIT. And I didn't talk about OIT in first place. UP findings near IVC unearthed Chariots, helmets, Swords etc tracks back to 2000 BCE or More. Which predates All the migration hypothesis.
@vipassana123
@vipassana123 5 ай бұрын
Incorrect, the UP findings(Sinauli chariot) is dated to 1900 bce and has a cart (not a spoked wheeled chariot like the aryans) Even then, 1900 falls in line with the Aryan migration (starting around 2000 bce) and they could’ve been early central Asian immigrants before spoked wheeled and horse chariots were created
@CHRS-ri5mf
@CHRS-ri5mf 5 ай бұрын
NO, its is Dated 2000 BC in upper bonds and UP findings are not only evidence we have.. Study done by US,ohio uni of human sciences and IIT, ASI shows NO evidence of a migration coming to indian subcontinent OVER 8000 year SPAN
@CHRS-ri5mf
@CHRS-ri5mf 5 ай бұрын
@@vipassana123 NO, its is Dated 2000 BC in upper bonds and UP findings are not only evidence we have.. Study done by US,ohio uni of human sciences and IIT, ASI shows NO evidence of a migration coming to indian subcontinent OVER 8000 year SPAN
@AutonomousEvolutions
@AutonomousEvolutions 5 ай бұрын
@@vipassana123 NO, its is Dated 2000 BC in upper bonds and UP findings are not only evidence we have.. Study done by US,ohio uni of human sciences and IIT, ASI shows NO evidence of a migration coming to indian subcontinent OVER 8000 year SPAN
@AutonomousEvolutions
@AutonomousEvolutions 5 ай бұрын
@@vipassana123 No, pls be updated in New terms and reports which come over
@starsky5849
@starsky5849 4 ай бұрын
The real Indians are the dravidians in south India because there were less invaders there. The Ayrans were invaders to the Indus Valley and they stayed.. The northern part of India has had so many invaders which is why the shades of Indians differs so much. Just like in the Philippines the real indigenous peoples are very dark but they have a mix of races. The Australian aborigines are of Indian descent and per DNA studies they migrated to Australia.
@jayanjayanthan5316
@jayanjayanthan5316 5 ай бұрын
Certain things are unanswered. The popular theory is that the Aryans migrated from Central Asia and the Aryan Culture is a continuation of the cultures, serially, Yamnaya - Sintashta - Andronovo - Oxus Civilizations, from there one branch migrated to present Iran (Proto Iranians) and other branch migrated to India (Indo Aryans). There are Archaeological evidence regarding the earlier cultures, like Kurgan burial sites in Central Asia and Gonur Depe archaeological site in BMAC (where vessels believed to be used for the preparation of Soma of Rigveda and Avesta were excavated). Why no such archaeological evidence regarding the migration of Aryans in India? Ghaggar-Hakra river system or Ancient Saraswati believed to be dried up in later Harappan period i.e. 2500 BC -2000 BC (which caused the migration of Harappans towards south) and Aryans arrived after, around 1500 BC. Then why Saraswati is described as a mighty riven in Rigveda? Why there is no mention of their trail or description of their ancestor’s land (of Aryans) in Rigveda (which is the only evidence about Aryans)?
@vipassana123
@vipassana123 5 ай бұрын
Well there is evidence via archeology regarding things like pottery and cremation. Also the saraswati was still running on its edges by the time the aryans came, it’s a common misconception that it was totally dry by then.
@jayanjayanthan5316
@jayanjayanthan5316 5 ай бұрын
@@vipassana123 The after death rituals are one of the prominent characteristic of any ancient civilizations. Be it Egyptian, or Chinese or Nannangadis burial urns during the bronze age found in Kerala. The Kurgan burial sites of Sintashta culture and the burial sites found in Oxus area have unique features. People are buried with weapons, horses and some with chariots. If the Rig Vedic people are migrated form Steppes region, why did they change the burying habit to cremation in a short period? In Rigveda River Saraswati is described as a mighty river, river with strong waves, mother of floods etc. If it is a dried up river, how is it possible? Why no such archeological evidence of Aryan settlement in India like Gonur Depe of BMAC?
@vipassana123
@vipassana123 5 ай бұрын
@@jayanjayanthan5316you’re misinformed about a lot of stuff. The bmac culture had cremation and soma and this is where the steppe people picked it up from. The Sarasvati river was NOT dried up when the aryans came, it was still flowing at the edges . The Aryans migration starts around 2000 bce, not 1500 bce. There are several commonalities in archeology like pottery. You’re just incorrect on multiple fronts.
@jayanjayanthan5316
@jayanjayanthan5316 5 ай бұрын
What is the archeological evidence of cremation. Saraswati in rigveda is eulogized as a mighty river with strong waves . Not suiting to a river with weakened flow.
@TheFutureIQ
@TheFutureIQ 5 ай бұрын
Mention of something in the Rigveda isn't evidence. There is a lot of exaggeration in the Vedas, so we can't really give much credence to the fact that they called it a mighty river. In any case, what was the Saraswati river is an unanswered question, but the fact that we don't have that answer can't be taken as evidence that the migration didn't happen. And the points about archaeological evidence have been answered by others. -navin
@MaryLove-d5w
@MaryLove-d5w 2 ай бұрын
I found this so fascinating and well done and explained. Got yourself a new subscriber.
@amitrahman8041
@amitrahman8041 5 ай бұрын
Very nicely done guys. Probably the most well-presented overview of Indian genetic ancestry I've come across.
@TheFutureIQ
@TheFutureIQ 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind and sincere appreciation. We hope we can keep bringing more such detailed videos to you. - Team FIQ
@k.dineshkannana.kesavarama7749
@k.dineshkannana.kesavarama7749 5 ай бұрын
They are telling Britishers are your father and you are simply accepting without any research. Just think once, in these kind of theories why always foreigners are always coming to India and why not Indians were not gone to eastern world. They are just bluffing. Just think this way, if Indians gone to steppeherd world and they given birth to many babies and brought back their babies to India, then also same DNA patterns will come. Ok
@pari0088
@pari0088 5 ай бұрын
​@@k.dineshkannana.kesavarama7749😂😂😂 omg...the hate for British is clouding your rational mind... There is no DNA evidence of your theory hence it wasn't the case. Abd ut doesn't make sense for people to migrate somewhere and to come back
@k.dineshkannana.kesavarama7749
@k.dineshkannana.kesavarama7749 5 ай бұрын
@@pari0088 you love Britishers, no problem for me. Have you done any excavation under the oldest cities like Kasi in India, it may reveal our forefathers were not hunter gathers but a highly developed human beings. Excavations in the remote areas will definitely say you are the descendents of hunter gathers. DNA will not reveal the cultural heritage.
@k.dineshkannana.kesavarama7749
@k.dineshkannana.kesavarama7749 5 ай бұрын
@@pari0088 Those who love Britishers will definitely accepted that Peter's theory,😂😂😂😂. I'm proud Bharatiya.
@RaviShankar-lz7fj
@RaviShankar-lz7fj 5 ай бұрын
can you please give the links of the researches and references you used to arrive at this conclusion...
@TheFutureIQ
@TheFutureIQ 5 ай бұрын
The links are included in the video description -navin
@RaviShankar-lz7fj
@RaviShankar-lz7fj 5 ай бұрын
@@TheFutureIQ those are just book mentioned in in the video and other videos of yours... where are the research papers you mentioned...
@krishgaming9080
@krishgaming9080 5 ай бұрын
​@@RaviShankar-lz7fjsee tye reaserach papers of hapologroups in google search it and see the sample an average Tamil is very much different from a kuruvasnhi of north india cause .see the faces of north india and south india see theire faces are different and the north indians tend to be more shining and light in colour .
@bhagathas3487
@bhagathas3487 4 ай бұрын
@@RaviShankar-lz7fj the books have it i guess
@DesCoutinho
@DesCoutinho 4 ай бұрын
​@@bhagathas3487if you know how to use an book index and it's bibliography. It used to be a skill. I wouldn't throw pearls to swine.
@sramesh6704
@sramesh6704 5 ай бұрын
Superb content and it throws light on the many misconceptions and wrong theories which was a matter of debate for many decades.. . Great work... looking forward to more content like this..
@TheFutureIQ
@TheFutureIQ 5 ай бұрын
Thank you -navin
@trulybala
@trulybala 3 ай бұрын
Aryans ...very dangerous
@freetamilnaduandsouthfromi2984
@freetamilnaduandsouthfromi2984 3 ай бұрын
Proud Dravidian from South India ❤
@rameshsadhasivam2093
@rameshsadhasivam2093 4 ай бұрын
View of tamil scholars is Tamils are the only people of ancient india and lemuriya continent which is now under water and splited to africa,Australia,south america and other island s.Tamils were travelled to eroupe and return as Aryans! After many thousand years!
@rameshsadhasivam2093
@rameshsadhasivam2093 4 ай бұрын
Dheva neya paavaanar !- scholor name
@UserId-ir4gq
@UserId-ir4gq 4 ай бұрын
How caste formed in tamilnadu ? Nadars only dominating in south tamilnadu. Example in tamilnadu ,kanyakumari district 1000 nadar home along with 10 dalit family in our area. Nadar population only increased compared to others.
@rameshsadhasivam2093
@rameshsadhasivam2093 4 ай бұрын
@@UserId-ir4gq nadars are lower than dalits! But not in econamy
@shadigital388
@shadigital388 Ай бұрын
​@@rameshsadhasivam2093 naah in tamil naadu brahmins are lowest of lower caste according to tambrams
@jim.pearsall
@jim.pearsall 18 күн бұрын
I was born in Thailand; my native Thai mother of Thai and Chinese heritage, apparently gave me unknown Indian heritage of mitochondria DNA (mtDNA) haplogroup U2! She hasn’t a clue who her grandparents were or where they came from; but DNA sequencing shows some interesting insights.
@gc95915
@gc95915 5 ай бұрын
South Asian Hunter-Gatherer did not speak Dravidian languages. In all likelihood, Dravidian languages came in with Zagrosian farmers from Elam region of present day Iran. Hence, Elamites-Dravidian family of languages is hypothesised. A recent paper even suggests that Brahui, spoken in Baluchistan, is a direct descendant of Elamite, though it is counted as a Dravidian language. Most Hunter-Gatherer languages have gone extinct and only Nihali and Vedda are known today. It is always hunter-gatherers who adopt the language of the settled population. A good example is Nagamese - the lingua franca of tribes of Nagaland, who speak mutually unintelligible languages. Anyone who hears it will not be able to tell it apart from Assamese. Same is the case all over the world.
@prasaathvr4977
@prasaathvr4977 4 ай бұрын
Then how hunter - Gatherer's languages extinct, how Dravidian languages form . ProtoElamites and Dravidian are branch of proto zogrosians. Then how Dravidian languages extinct except vedda and nihali. Please don't get mad for my text 😅, can you explain it in details. I couldn't get anything. 😂
@ramyafennell4615
@ramyafennell4615 5 ай бұрын
Brilliant, thank you. I have peace at last. Ive been following this topic for 20 years...i got so fed up with arguments I stopped trying to understand who was right. Profound appreciations for such clarity. Great presentation, and editing of sooo much information.
@TheFutureIQ
@TheFutureIQ 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words -navin
@KardashevIII
@KardashevIII Ай бұрын
I agree, the cast system froze the mixing of DNA. The steppe herders (Aryana) did not want to intermingle with the darker skinned hunter gatherer people. In my opinion, racism was the motivation.
@DanoJan-mw3pd
@DanoJan-mw3pd 27 күн бұрын
Yep and the caste system put them at the top, where they were safe and comfortable and are right to this dsy
@SachinPotdar-p3q
@SachinPotdar-p3q 22 күн бұрын
Steppe herders are savages not aryas
@lipun1531
@lipun1531 12 күн бұрын
Bro caste system is not by skin color like europe
@youAbajajTube
@youAbajajTube 5 күн бұрын
Fantastic. A lot of questions cleared up.
@SmokedChips
@SmokedChips 4 ай бұрын
I am confused. Before this video, I had the understanding of Aryans coming to India. Invasion is more likely, if someone else occupies your land. Migration if they occupy nearby land such that there is no conflict. But this video asserts that it is migration whilst providing proof that it is an invasion. They mentions that the steppe herders (aryans) came without women. Who travels without women other than for war?
@TheFutureIQ
@TheFutureIQ 4 ай бұрын
Did Indians, Chinese, Italians, Irish people, Polish people, Mexican people, etc. invade America? Heck, why go so far? Did the Gujarati people invade Mumbai? Did the Shettys invade Mumbai? Did the Marwadi people invade Mumbai? A land that invites and welcomes people willingly isn't being invaded. It is being made stronger by the collective strength of the people who settle there and call it their own. You assume that the people of IVC were the "rightful" residents of the the land but how can you forget that they themselves were migrants at some point in time? - Shrikant
@garyjohn1822
@garyjohn1822 4 ай бұрын
​@@TheFutureIQThe original people of Indus Kush are the Nubian Kushites who are the Ancient Egyptians who ruled Indus kush for millions upon millions of years Kushites had a highly advanced technological civilization up until the 17th century when the Indo aryans came from the caucas mountains regions invaded annihilated ethnic cleansed the Indegenious Kushites Bantus the remaining Kushites are now called the Siddis who are marginalised and excluded based on the racist cast system brought to Kush renamed India by the Indo aryans renamed Indians modern day Indians Pakistanis Bangladeshi destroyed the Ancient Kushite One world empire In Niger South Africa Cameroon they still speak Tamil
@khem127
@khem127 4 ай бұрын
Also he say's that in some areas, ALL the people had Indian FEMALE mtdna, and stepherder MALE dna, because the Stepherde males, "out competed for the Indian females". What a nice way to put it.
@pierrefitter
@pierrefitter 2 ай бұрын
Ancient people are much like modern people, and were driven by many of the same motivations. Thousands would travel for trade, and sometimes they would settle down. Indus seals and other artefacts have been found in Mesopotamia, for example. There are even Sumerian tablets that mention trade and war with the IVC, using its presumed contemporaneous name 'Meluha'. Later, in Taxila & Nalanda we saw thousands travel from all over the world to study there and then some of them settled locally. Although many also returned home with their new knowledge.
@alvinsunassee4282
@alvinsunassee4282 4 ай бұрын
Dear Sir..If the steppe herders brought vedas into india,why is it inexistent where they supposedly came from..?Zero trace of vedic culture in europe...
@khem127
@khem127 4 ай бұрын
The came from the caucasus mountains. They wiped out the Black people of Europe. Their home is not Europe. You will have to go to thecaucasus mountains to find their archaeological digs.
@ohlawd3699
@ohlawd3699 4 ай бұрын
Good question. The only place in the world you find anything like the lingum or yoni from Hinduism is in India. No where else. 😅
@DesCoutinho
@DesCoutinho 4 ай бұрын
​@@ohlawd3699although I prefer the ultrapostmodern name of India Bharat. Wakanda
@ChintanTyagi
@ChintanTyagi 4 ай бұрын
He didn't say they brought vedas or sanskrit. They brought pre sanskrit and pre vedic thought. Be happy.. you can say India gave Vedas and Sanskrit to world.
@junnaredd9912
@junnaredd9912 3 ай бұрын
​​@@ChintanTyagi correct. Vikings, Aryans, Ancient Greeks and Zoroastrism have similar mythologies. People forget oral tradition changes through time and it was an important medium before the writing system was invented.
@AnjelLee-f8c
@AnjelLee-f8c 4 ай бұрын
“Some of the started migrating into India?” Sir, India was a part of the Indus Valley. It was a large are that encompassed even a part of Afghanistan.
@AmanBansil
@AmanBansil 2 ай бұрын
I grew up in Punjab, India until I was 12 or so. It’s very cool to see a channel focused on science based education like this. I never knew all this!
@PradeepKumar-hu4vy
@PradeepKumar-hu4vy 5 ай бұрын
Please tell us when exactly all Vedas written and which group influenced to write it?
@archangelempress10
@archangelempress10 5 ай бұрын
Search Sanskrit was first found in
@patrikstar8466
@patrikstar8466 5 ай бұрын
Aryans, whom he call Steppe Herders.
@Anonymous-8080
@Anonymous-8080 4 ай бұрын
He clearly told that it was Steppe Herders
@Curiouskannadiga
@Curiouskannadiga 4 ай бұрын
And Brahmins or so so called upper casts are having dense indus and ancestral hunters DNA 🧬. This is messed up than GOT
@SBSB-so7ep
@SBSB-so7ep 4 ай бұрын
Actually konw one khows, there are so much speculation and most of this part written during mughal period
@SpecialGlobalTalks
@SpecialGlobalTalks 5 ай бұрын
All indians are mixed by DNA 🧬 That's why all are one
@kavithagovindaraj7531
@kavithagovindaraj7531 5 ай бұрын
Tamizh is not like that
@SpecialGlobalTalks
@SpecialGlobalTalks 5 ай бұрын
@@kavithagovindaraj7531 who is tamizh??
@ripsanskrit3609
@ripsanskrit3609 5 ай бұрын
​@@SpecialGlobalTalks tamil speaking people
@ripsanskrit3609
@ripsanskrit3609 5 ай бұрын
Yeah outsider came and mix with natives and spread they caste based religion with native people god and created stories on it
@SpecialGlobalTalks
@SpecialGlobalTalks 5 ай бұрын
@@ripsanskrit3609 there is no any native in India all are come from outside
@manishaagrawal7846
@manishaagrawal7846 5 ай бұрын
This is so detailed and informative, need to watch multiple times to understand and process this information!
@TheFutureIQ
@TheFutureIQ 5 ай бұрын
I'm glad you liked it and I'm glad that you're watching multiple times! -navin
@yourdailysupper
@yourdailysupper 2 ай бұрын
I watched this entire video till 22:00 to see Navin's thumb missing. It shows how interesting this video is.
@ashishnimonkar9990
@ashishnimonkar9990 5 ай бұрын
Very interesting and informative! Can you please include North-Eastern cultures as well in this account, as that is an interesting part of Indian history often left out.
@TheFutureIQ
@TheFutureIQ 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, the research papers that I used for this video excluded Tibeto-Burman and Austro-Asiatic DNA from their analysis-because they wanted to focus on the larger populations. As a result, unfortunately, Northeast India has been left out of this analysis. I'm sorry about that. I am looking for literature on the DNA of Northeast Indians and if I find enough material, will try to put it up somewhere -navin
@marmara9741
@marmara9741 5 ай бұрын
First, stop calling North-Eastern, instead of people of Northern South East Asia. Have we given you a label that wipes out your identity?
@tumterlollen9953
@tumterlollen9953 5 ай бұрын
Why do you say Indian origin and not north indian? Because people speaking dravid language, the central indian tribes like mundari language and of course North East Indians except the Assamese people? Like the white Brits you too want to show that the fairer north indians are original indian.
@theboyofjoyy
@theboyofjoyy 5 ай бұрын
exactly
@Ashthebadthegood
@Ashthebadthegood 4 ай бұрын
Mostly all the states in north india are mixed blood and these people only speaks hindi and they forgotten theyre own tribal original languages.
@SriHari-ix4nl
@SriHari-ix4nl 4 ай бұрын
​@@Ashthebadthegoodhumans livedd near present day chennai for as long 3.5 lakh years because new findings cave paintings and stone tools and bone fragments hence out of Africa theory of 75000 years into india is fake
@maxwellkariuki2930
@maxwellkariuki2930 5 ай бұрын
We Africans are the mother of the entire modern human race, the Homosapiens. We did not migrate into India through the red sea route. At the time of Human migration from East Africa, Indian subcontinent was attached to the African continent..Separation came as a result of a process called continental drifting which is still happening gradually here in the African rift valley... The concept of CASTE system in India was introduced by caucasian migration. Remember Caucasians arent pure Homosapiens but got an admixture of Neanderthal gene component..
@TheFutureIQ
@TheFutureIQ 5 ай бұрын
Your timelines are a bit mixed up. Continental drift 'wrapped up' 2.6 million years ago, before the beginning of the Pleistocene epoch. Modern continents have barely moved (i.e., no more than 100km) since that time. (Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleistocene) The earliest time period referred in this episode is 65,000 years ago at 8:51 where Navin talks about early migration of hunter-gatherers from Africa to India. - Shrikant
@maxwellkariuki2930
@maxwellkariuki2930 5 ай бұрын
@@TheFutureIQ Sometimes the story of early human migration from Africa also looks faulty. How could our ancestors have left such good climate & fair conditions as we have in East Africa to move to the brutal cold in Europe & the North pole? That doesn't add up at all..In those remote times, the entire world was underdeveloped...
@DanoJan-mw3pd
@DanoJan-mw3pd 27 күн бұрын
@@maxwellkariuki2930 I think Africans moved up in their nomadic search for better pastures to the Mediterranean basin, which has very good weather year round , not too cold nor too hot. From there they would move onto the green forests of Europe in summer for better hunting grounds and then some stayed and then they adapted.
@maxwellkariuki2930
@maxwellkariuki2930 27 күн бұрын
@@DanoJan-mw3pd Make sense
@KshitijGawankar-i4c
@KshitijGawankar-i4c 16 күн бұрын
Another amazing day of remembering the biggest quote 18:10 "Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell."
@ggamingtech1381
@ggamingtech1381 5 ай бұрын
So tamil is older than Sanskrit
@penoge
@penoge 5 ай бұрын
@@ggamingtech1381 Most likely, if it was spoken and written in Kumari Kandam, where Manu Vaivasvata most likely came from who was king of the Dravidians before he became the 7th Manu after the flood.
@ExploreWorldAE
@ExploreWorldAE 5 ай бұрын
No evidence. Oldest evidence of tamil itself is just 1500 to 600 BC
@ggamingtech1381
@ggamingtech1381 5 ай бұрын
@@penoge I don't know if Kumari kandam is real. geography wise it maybe another land there is no proof that it existed if we look at the sea
@ggamingtech1381
@ggamingtech1381 5 ай бұрын
@@ExploreWorldAE tamil formed when indus valley people left indus valley and mixed withthe language of local people but Sanskrit formed after proto indo European language mixed with local people language if this is the case Tamil is older by few centuries
@penoge
@penoge 5 ай бұрын
@@ggamingtech1381 Nonsense! You can see it with Google Earth in the east of India! It is an area of continental size in water depths of the level of the sea level rising after the end of the ice age. And science calls it Sundaland!
@theonlinesamosa
@theonlinesamosa 3 ай бұрын
What percent of steppe population is Mongolian/Asian (i see reports that it is 88% Asian-Chinese) is this correct?
@BrownHuman
@BrownHuman 5 ай бұрын
Great Video Guys. Loved the historical precision and transparency between the facts and subjectivisms. Although I have one question, I feel like you guys missed on the part where we see early stone age people in south India over 1.5 million years ago ? We have stone tool evidence in Attirampakam, Tamil Nadu from around 1.5 million years which are also the oldest found stone tools in India if I'm not wrong. I wonder where these early stone age people fit into your timeline ? Certainly there is a huge gap between 1.5 Mil years and the first mentioned 65,000 years. Would love to get that gap filled in this history of India timeline. Cheers!
@TheFutureIQ
@TheFutureIQ 5 ай бұрын
There was a big volcanic eruption (Toba) 74000 years ago, which resulted in ash deposits all over the Indian subcontinent. There's no evidence that any humans in India survived this. As a result, any modern Indians are descended from humans who came after this and anything earlier is prehistory -navin
@BrownHuman
@BrownHuman 5 ай бұрын
@@TheFutureIQ Isnt there evidence from archaeological sites in India, such as Jwalapuram in Andhra Pradesh, suggests that human populations were present before, during, and after the Toba eruption ? Stone tools found in the layers of ash indicate continuous human occupation, suggesting that humans did survive the eruption and its aftermath.
@TheFutureIQ
@TheFutureIQ 5 ай бұрын
It is possible. However, tracking DNA markers indicates that only approximately 10000 humans *worldwide* are supposed have survived the Toba eruption, most of them in Africa. While there are tools found before and after the ash in Jwalapura, no fossils have been found so we just can't be sure. In any case, even if some did survive, they don't appear to have a big impact on the DNA of the later Indians. -navin
@AG-dk6qb
@AG-dk6qb 4 ай бұрын
There was never anything found as evidence of 1.5 M yrs stone tools. This is more Southie fantasy.
@mannyk2755
@mannyk2755 4 ай бұрын
Homo Sapiens came to existence around 300,000 years ago. Before that they were primitive humans, probably from other branches of human evolution . All of them extinct due to various reasons. The last known species closest to humans/ Homo Sapiens were Neanderthals and never lived in Indian subcontinent. There for, what you have stated is a false narrative. I don’t think your claim is a pier reviewed genuine research.
@YashRaajSingh
@YashRaajSingh Ай бұрын
One of the most comprehensive and informative videos on the subject. Great job guys. Keep it up.
@pizzalot
@pizzalot 5 ай бұрын
Aryan Refugee Theory : ART
@TheFutureIQ
@TheFutureIQ 5 ай бұрын
Whether you are deemed a migrant or a refugee depends on what (or rather, how much) you bring with you... ;) -Shrikant
@outofturn331
@outofturn331 4 ай бұрын
​@@TheFutureIQnon material stuff right..
@nadiyavemantalks
@nadiyavemantalks 4 ай бұрын
😂
@GymGenie-bb8fq
@GymGenie-bb8fq 4 ай бұрын
Most indo european groups spread their genes by their men (and we all know what that means globally-not very consensual love making) Interestingly most indo european invasions were extremely brutal and genocidal to the point where new populations were pretty homogenus which makes me think that it was indeed an invasion but that the pre herder mix were EXTREMELY resilient
@andrew3869
@andrew3869 4 ай бұрын
Those refugees created India
@kpshriram
@kpshriram 5 ай бұрын
Bro does not wanted to mention the “ancient hunter gatherers” as Tamilians. So much insecurity this dude has. Not even single time he mentioned or spoke about “Tamil race” or Tamili civilization in the whole video that makes this entire video a bogus 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🫣🫣🫣🫣🤡🤡🤡🤡
@humanist7619
@humanist7619 5 ай бұрын
Tamils are descendants of eastern africans. Your forefathers are black eastern africans who migrated to India.
@kpshriram
@kpshriram 5 ай бұрын
@@humanist7619 that’d probably happened some 60000 years ago unlike Aryans who came just 2000 years ago to India now they want to take control of the whole country
@cartoonbaby5711
@cartoonbaby5711 5 ай бұрын
​@@humanist7619 "Yes, all around the world, people came from Africa. Those who came first are the original inhabitants of the land."
@mveel007
@mveel007 4 ай бұрын
Moreover he didn't mention that there was a land below the present south which was assumed to be connected with present srilanka and few islands...
@veronicarussell6361
@veronicarussell6361 4 ай бұрын
They want to be Europeans don't want to mention Africa
@rajeshbhatt6856
@rajeshbhatt6856 4 ай бұрын
I am confused! So, who were Aryans, Dravidians? Did they exist before these migrations? Or were they born after these migrations? 'Aryan' means those who worship Light or Fire! This word is found in our ancient scriptures. Also what about the Vedic culture? Who brought it? Who were our great Rishis? When and where did they come from? Tons and tons of knowledge from our ancient scriptures were taken away by those travellers who came to "Sone ki Chidia" and took the knowledge abroad! Many questions are not clear!
@blazer9547
@blazer9547 3 ай бұрын
Genes don't lie , aryans are the descendants of yamnaya who originated in europe. This video and comments are cope
@anshulchouhan1482
@anshulchouhan1482 2 ай бұрын
@@blazer9547 wtf this guys are literally biased and there is no solid proof of "Aryans " this is a word of Sanskrit and whicj means noble people and nothing else. Go and read a research paper of iit gandhinagar of ait
@AnhNguyen-hn9vj
@AnhNguyen-hn9vj 2 ай бұрын
ancient people are behaving different than today people. they basicly live by tribes and moving around through each other separate and combine and separate and ccombine all the cycles. The same with the nomad, the asians, and the american indians. it is very rarely that any tribe stay still in one place as they still move around even you are farmers due to climate change and war stuff. the concept of country or nation and fixed territory only come with the rise of empire and powerful nation. and even with the rise of empire and nation it is probably less moving around than tribes but still moving around alot.
@jsways3048
@jsways3048 2 ай бұрын
@@blazer9547 there is no answer for that noone knows for sure. Its just based on hypothesis of kurgan which is not fact just popular theory there are other theories and most likely the region is eurasia can be from anywhere between western india to armenia. Also pontic caspian is eurasian steppe not european steppe its part of west asia as well. Genes of modern indian are different from europeans. Indians and europeans have one common ancestor rather tha europeans being ancetor of indians genetically indians also have older r1a than europe or atleast similar age based on genes u cant tell who migrated from where only arhaelogy can solve this issue
@Vishaal27GP
@Vishaal27GP Ай бұрын
"Where did the Sanskrit and Vedic people come from? A mystery waiting to be unraveled!"
@vivektulja4516
@vivektulja4516 2 ай бұрын
Let us keep on discussing this stuff for the next 10,000 years, while others study computer science, electrical engineering, biotech, etc, and leave us further and further behind.
@bhavanisridharan6828
@bhavanisridharan6828 10 күн бұрын
These studies are superb studies 😅for people who , like me, are academically curious. These studies help also in evaluating the evolution of habits, clothing style, food habits over the course of long times. No one stopped you from watching different shows you like…
@kandasamyramamurthi7663
@kandasamyramamurthi7663 5 ай бұрын
What do you mean by DNA of a specific caste? Can DNA classify and stand DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT CASTE? OR DO YOU MEAN SOMETHING DIFFERENT? Would you be able to correct or reverse it at this point? THIS POINT MAY BE CLARIFIED IN YOUR NEXT VIDEOS IN THE FUTURE.
@ripsanskrit3609
@ripsanskrit3609 5 ай бұрын
He talking how people of the same caste Carrys the same DNA
@TheFutureIQ
@TheFutureIQ 5 ай бұрын
DNA analysis of 70 different groups (castes and jatis) of modern Indians and comparison of that with ancient DNA shows that there was lots of intermixing among the different jatis and castes until 1900 years ago. Then, 1900 years ago, the intermixing stopped, and the situation has *largely* remained like that till the present day. So it does mean that because different jatis and castes have practiced endogamy for 1900 years, there are DNA markers in a jati that are not found elsewhere and vice versa. -navin
@jamesaron1967
@jamesaron1967 5 ай бұрын
DNA cannot be changed without severely affecting the health of the individual. Why would you want to do that?
@prashanttewari
@prashanttewari 4 ай бұрын
​@@jamesaron1967individual's DNA didn't change. It mixed with other DNA from other people over generations. And the fact that these DNA sequences existed in people from the other groups proves that it had either no effects at all or no harmful effects at the least. Also, only the successive ones survive and the unhealthy ones are rooted out over generations either way. FYI, most of these genetic markers actually are redundant and have no functions whatsoever.
@jamesaron1967
@jamesaron1967 4 ай бұрын
@@prashanttewari I understand, I was only replying to the other commenter who asked about posdibly changing his DNA.
@myutubeforall
@myutubeforall 5 ай бұрын
Well you mentioned about humans travelling to New Zealand. It's not correct there is no evidence to support this claim. The Polynesians came here and were the first settlers in New Zealand about a thousand years back.
@vinsin328
@vinsin328 5 ай бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polynesians#/media/File:Chronological_dispersal_of_Austronesian_people_across_the_Pacific.svg
@jmnaik6
@jmnaik6 5 ай бұрын
Yes, correct. NZ Māoris are not directly related to the Australian natives, who might have travelled through the Indian subcontinent, but are now thought to be related to ancient Taiwanese.
@TheFutureIQ
@TheFutureIQ 5 ай бұрын
You are right! I'm sorry, I seem to have mis-read something or fallen for one of the older incorrect theories of ancient humans in New Zealand. As you say, humans reached Australia long ago but reached New Zealand only a thousand years back. Will try to get this corrected if possible. Thanks for pointing it out. - navin.
@TheFutureIQ
@TheFutureIQ 5 ай бұрын
@myutubeforall the reference to New Zealand in that sentence has been removed in the video. Thanks again for pointing out the mistake.
@kiranjosh92
@kiranjosh92 2 ай бұрын
Great content without any bias 👏👏👌🏽
@Vaibhavgaunekar
@Vaibhavgaunekar 5 ай бұрын
Bro how you do your research, pls shed some light on that also/ would love to know
@TheFutureIQ
@TheFutureIQ 5 ай бұрын
A lot of it is following the right people on social media, and subscribing to the right substacks. Those give initial ideas, which I follow up by reading the relevant research articles on Google scholar or sci-hub or libgen -navin
@Vaibhavgaunekar
@Vaibhavgaunekar 5 ай бұрын
@@TheFutureIQ acha! Good to know👍. Ty
@sameerparanjape5637
@sameerparanjape5637 4 ай бұрын
@@TheFutureIQ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@whoops0
@whoops0 5 ай бұрын
Well in that case, the first group to come to india can call themselves as natives. But now, no one is; however, if they have atleast 50+% of DNA matching with ancestral hunter gatherers, then they are clearly more closer to the native Indians. No wonder that cheras and pandyas are really old dynasties, considering their symbols which are Bow and arrow, and fishes. Both of them belong to hunting/fishing community, whereas cholas were hunters too who embraced agriculture later. Makes sense of what tamil nationalists are shouting.
@jahnvisingh8015
@jahnvisingh8015 5 ай бұрын
Your comment is a bit difficult to comprehend. Maybe try simplifying it.
@whoops0
@whoops0 5 ай бұрын
@@jahnvisingh8015 so basically no one in India can actually say that they are natives of this land. But the pioneers of this land can claim themselves as native Indians. So, if someone has DNA that matches with ancestral hunter/gatherers(pioneers) atleast by 51% then they can actually claim themselves as actual natives of this land. Regarding the cheras and pandyas, both of them belong to hunting clans(vedargal/meenavargal - hunter/fishermen). Chera's actual source for survival was hunting, hence, the symbol of their flag is 🏹. Similarly, pandyas actual source for survival was fishing, hence, the symbol of their kingdom is fishes. Both of them, have mentioned about Aryans and their dwelling. Pandian king has a record of him when conquering the aryans. Hence he got the title, ARYAPADAIKADANDHA NEDUNCHEZHIAN - Nedunchezhian who conquered the aryan army. Similarly a chera king conquered himalayas after conquering the aryans, hence he took the title. Imayavaramban. In manusmrithi: 2:21 says that Aryans were in between 2 mountains (Himalayas&vindhyas) and 2 oceans (eastern&western sea). Supporting this statement, Tamil literature, Aganaanooru 398 says that himalayan region belongs to the aryans. Another proof, padhittrupathu 11. Also in Silapathigaram kaatchikadai, Kongans, Kalingas(odissa), Karunadakas(karnataka-note that karunadakas at that time dwelled right below the vindhyas), Bengalis, Kangars(gangas) forgot about you and formed alliance with Aryans. You defeated those 1000 Aryan Kings on the banks of River Ganges. This again proclaims the regions of aryan kingdom. Note the work "bank of river ganga". All these geographical indications do serve as proof for this genetic study. Hope it helped.
@jahnvisingh8015
@jahnvisingh8015 5 ай бұрын
@@whoops0 Your knowledge in this field is commendable, atleast to an individual like me, mostly ignorant to the history of the subcontinent south of the Vindhyas. Would you consider recommending books on the Cheras, Pandyans, Chalukyas, Rashtrakutas, Wodiyars, Pallavas, maybe the slightly less advanced ones. Being from the north of India, I have always felt a sense of fascination for Tamil culture and been intrigued by stories which encapsulate its glorious past, ever since my visit to the charming city of Madurai. The phonetic beauty of the language (I really wish I could learn it some day), the fragrant cuisine, the marvels of the temple architecture and of course, the splendid sonic experience of the echoing nadhaswaram in the temples, everything is vividly engraved in my memory.
@whoops0
@whoops0 5 ай бұрын
@@jahnvisingh8015 thank you so much. But sadly iam not aware of a 1 particular book that talks about these kingdoms that u have mentioned.. Instead, I could recommend u 1 of the oldest literature in tamil. It is called Silapathigaram. Silapathigaram means the story of an anklet. This book is atleast 1900 to 2000 years old. It contains of a story of a couple who leaves chola kingdom, they try to settle on pandyas kingdom(where the husband dies), and then later the wife moves to chera kingdom. So this book, tells the story of environmental situations of ancient tamilagam. It is to be noted that this book was written by Chera prince who left his royalty and embraced Buddhism. However, this book is not in favour of any religion or kingdom, neither it is against them as all religions of ancient tamilagam(Aaseevagam, Samanam(jainism), boutham(budhism), vydheegam(veda religion Or vainavism) and shaivism) are praised. So this book will give you the idea how a layperson's life was in ancient tamilagam. Book: THE CILAPPATIKARAM OF ILANKO ATIKAL, An Epic of South India, translated, with an introduction and a postscript by R. Paarthasarathy. This book is also available in Hindi. Puranaanooru = Puram(outside) + naanooru(400) Aganaanooru = Agam(Inside) + Naanooru(400) These 2 books have 400 poems each. Puranaanooru talks about a life-outside of the person's body. It includes poems of Kings and kingdoms, nature, wars, and general people's life. Aganaanooru is talks about the life-inside of a person's body, which includes love life, person's relationship, person's feeling of other things around him. If you wanna learn about tamil people's culture, then these books are good. BOOK; 1. THE FOUR HUNDERED SONGS OF WAR AND WISDOM, an anthology of poems by classical tamil, the puranaanooru. Translated and edited by George. L. Hart and Hank Heifetz. I'm sorry, I couldn't get aganaanooru. Thirdly, the most famous tamil literature, Thirukural, is composed by thiruvalluvar. It is his statue on the sea, you'll see when you google search kanyakumari. This book contains of 1330 statements, with each statement having 7 words(4 in the first line, 3 in the second line). Has 133 chapters with each chapter having 10 kurals/statements hence the 1330. This book is divided into 3 parts: Aram (virtue) 38 chapters, Porul (wealth) 70 chapters, inbam/kaaman (love) 25 chapters.... All these parts are beautiful to read. They are very simple for a layman to understand. You also get books separately for each part. So this book is about ethical philosophy. If you wanna read the whole thirukkural, I'd suggest you this book. PEARLS OF WISDOM FROM CLASSIC TAMIL SERIES THIRUKURAL - DR. Anaivaariyar. If you just wanna read the 3rd part, which is awesome id say, try reading THE BOOK OF DESIRE by meena kandaswamy. And there are hell lot of works in tamil literature. Whatever I gave you is less than 5%. And there are still hell lot of manuscripts which are not translated yet. But i think whatever I gave you is enough to get u started. And whatever I gave you are atleast 1900-2000 years old. So they are like legit solid tamil contexts. But i dont I'm the right person to recommend you books about rashtrakutas and chalukyas Or the wodeyars. I cannot read or understand old kannada and sanskrit. Also there is a small problem here. For example, rashtrakutas reigned for 220 years. So it is difficult for me to get books that were written during this short period of time. Similarly with chalukyas who ruled 200 and 200 years. Their history if complicated as kept having territory conflicts with the cholas. Wodeyars are a totally new kingdom which sprouted at the beginning of 15th century. So i couldn't get a kannada-only-culture. It was easy for me to tamil literature because Chola, pandya and chera dynasties ended only in 13th century AD, 14th century AD and 12th century AD respectively. None of these kingdoms starting period could be found as their origin goes back very past in history that they are considered as legends. For example, pandyan and cheras are even found in Mahabharata. Meenakshi was a pandyan princess this was mentioned in Mahabharata. Because cheras chola pandyas ruled consistently for so long, I was able to handpick the literature easily that are at least 2000 years old. So please ask a kannada scholar or student regarding kannada/telugu literature. Regarding pallavas, you don't have to worry about them. Because pallavas are branch of cholas. This is found in Silapathigaram. When a chola prince married a Naga princess in srilanka, the pallava dynasty was found. Pallavas braced sanskrit unlike chera chola and pandyas who patronized tamil. Because they embraced sanskrit hence their name "Pallava" Which literally means "branch". Their stories are mostly found in temple inscriptions.
@jahnvisingh8015
@jahnvisingh8015 5 ай бұрын
@@whoops0 Thank you so much for taking out the time to write such a comprehensive response. I will try my best to read all your recommendations, hopefully obtaining a novel perspective of the beauteous Tamil culture.
@WileCoyoteMoncure-Smith
@WileCoyoteMoncure-Smith 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for my Indian ancestor coming to the USA and the extremely well researched medical doctors and scientists.
@khaleelthecomedian4321
@khaleelthecomedian4321 3 ай бұрын
Most Indians are from Africa 🌍 period. 💯
@mohamedgoldstein5565
@mohamedgoldstein5565 3 ай бұрын
Africa didnt exist then.
@PS-ns5kn
@PS-ns5kn 3 ай бұрын
Kuch bhi 😂
@heavyhitter9186
@heavyhitter9186 3 ай бұрын
Delusional african 😂
@blueSkyIs1
@blueSkyIs1 4 ай бұрын
what is the evidence of 1. Step -herders' language is a precursor to Sanskrit? Did they write books in steps that they carried? Are these books/inscriptions found in the present steps region? What script did they have? 2. Step-herders' religion being a precursor to Vedic religion?
@kareem.10
@kareem.10 4 ай бұрын
That part of the video was ridiculous. Steppe herders (barbarians) brought language and religion to a population that had been settled for thousands of years and was more advanced....that doesn't make any sense.
@loksterization
@loksterization 4 ай бұрын
It's a fact. Their lifestyle is perfectly described in the old Sanskrit texts.
@blueSkyIs1
@blueSkyIs1 4 ай бұрын
@@loksterization is it not possible at all, that they (steps folks) immigrated and adopted local culture and professions to survive? A Lot of Indian programmers migrate to the US and adopt the American lifestyle. Does that mean they brought programming to the US?? Try to find objective evidence of Sankrit already existing in the steps region. Without that, it is a sloppy argument.
@loksterization
@loksterization 4 ай бұрын
@@blueSkyIs1 you don't understand. These Sanskrit texts talk in detail about the steppes where they came from. Facts are facts, this is not ideology.
@blueSkyIs1
@blueSkyIs1 4 ай бұрын
@@loksterization Please post evidence and texts. And how you came to conclusion that they talk about Steps Also, very important! Why steps people don't take about their own place in Sanskrit that they are supposed to have been espoused??
@AnjelLee-f8c
@AnjelLee-f8c 4 ай бұрын
So, if people came to India and mixed with the local people, who are the original local people?
@kanaka108
@kanaka108 4 ай бұрын
The land was empty, no body there. This is his assumption.
@SriHari-ix4nl
@SriHari-ix4nl 4 ай бұрын
​@@kanaka108shit assumption it's already debunked after ancient stone tools,paintings excavated from place near present day chennai which give a range 1.5 lakh to 3.5 lakh years ago .Either the arayan invasion or picnic therory is false or carbon dating is absolute rubbish (humans lived near Chennai,india before 1.5 lakh years not migrated 75000 years ago as so)
@SriHari-ix4nl
@SriHari-ix4nl 4 ай бұрын
​@@kanaka108see only people who have not colonized by colonizers is india eg us (red indians) wiped out,South American natives wiped out and Australian aboriginal wiped out less than few lakhs of them survive and only place were they survived is Africa so if that's so then humans may either arrived in india from Africa and moved out form different races and also may be humans were native to indian and moved out of india to form chinese,Europeans,middle East etc
@akhesa8135
@akhesa8135 3 ай бұрын
Leurs ancêtres était similaires aux peuples des îles d’Andaman
@Samyu_N
@Samyu_N 26 күн бұрын
I totally DISAGREE with your Out Of Africa theory because this is totally WRONG. You are saying humans migrated into India around 65,000 years back from Africa, this is WRONG Google - Ancient Stone Tools Found in Tamil Nadu Stone tools from Attirampakkam, a village located about 65 km west-northwest of Chennai, proves that Homo Sapeons [Original Ancesters of Modern day Humans] have lived there around 3,85,000 years ago. This proves that Out of Africa theory is wrong and Ancient Tamils lived in TAMIL NADU 3,85,000 years ago. But on those days language Tamil might NOT have evolved. Also I disagree with the point that IVC people only migrated from North West India into South India. The truth is indigenous People were living in South India when IVC was there in North West India.. Other then this I agree with all other points discussed in this interview.
@ninaddesai7294
@ninaddesai7294 3 ай бұрын
Never been hooked to watching something as good as your episodes 🎉
@BabyXGlitz
@BabyXGlitz 4 ай бұрын
what a relief, seriously though very informative lecture and I look forward to hear more, I'll subscribe
@santhiramorgan8329
@santhiramorgan8329 5 ай бұрын
From this interview, I get the idea that the DRAVIDIANS SEEM TO BE NATIVE TO INDIA FOR THEY CAME FROM THE FIRST WAVE OF OUT OF AFRICA.
@vinodhsivaprakasam4923
@vinodhsivaprakasam4923 5 ай бұрын
"Out Of Africa" theory was well framed by Whiteman.
@sachinsashital4539
@sachinsashital4539 5 ай бұрын
Another case of challenges with listening comprehension
@candasamysunassee62
@candasamysunassee62 5 ай бұрын
TAMIL people were called Dravidian by English men. The world Dravidian came from TAMIL word Thiruveedan means faithful and sacred Powerful men. Thiruveedan= Thiruvidan, Dravidan, becomes Dravidian, all ian, ism, ic comes from English. Indian, Dravidian Hinduism, islamism, vedic, islamic. Before , in ancient time we don't have papers and books nor photography. we don't have scripts, alphabets or letters. TAMIL language is the First, oldest, finest, sweetest and beautiful language and the first classical language in the world with the richest culture and highest civilisation and wonderful literature. God creates people of same colour the brunette colour first then the black, red , white and the yellow coloured skin people. The first world was TAMIL ruled by Paradan Emperumal (Paradan emperor, Baradan, Barad, Barat today india is Barath from the Parada Nadu. He , Paradan Emperumal with his eight sons and one daughter ruled also the Submerged TAMIL Continent Kumari kandam. Later his descendants went round the world, the Three crowned Tamil kings Sozhan ( Chola ) Cheran ( Chera ) Pandiyan ( Pandyan ) At that time we don't have God with Animals head. Rven indu Valley was not called indu. It was called Sindurai same as Madurai. In Tamil we don't put ' S' for Pluriel, only English put S . Indus, vedas, TAMIL put ' Gal ' Tamizhargal and the country was called Parada Nadu abd Tamizhagam or Tamizhaga Nadu. ( Or Tamizh Nadu) Water supply system in Sindurai ( indus) Valley Civilisation is the same as in South India, ( Tehn Barath) and specifically in Today Tamil Nadu. The TAMIL Thiruveedan ( Dravidian). Agriculture is from the Thiruveedan now in Tamil Nadu. New tech in agriculture is from the South india. Hindi, Urdu Persian, islamic, European languaged were not existent in the ancient Time. Nandri. 2.B C.........
@Namse21
@Namse21 5 ай бұрын
‘native’ and ‘india’ are funny terms that you use that probably wont be recognised at all by people you are referring to. The initial ancestor DNA component in South Indians is greater, yes, but they do have other traces of DNA too, which doesnt make them any more native to the land than the north indians. Native word is generally used in English for people of a land existing before colonisation and resettling of that land by oppressive regimes. As the Dna evidence suggests however, the waves of people coming into the subcontinent werent colonisers looking to oppress but normal people looking to settle and intermarry the earlier civilisations. They are the ancestors of most south indians as well.
@ripsanskrit3609
@ripsanskrit3609 5 ай бұрын
Well kinda trur yeah ......
@faujdar021
@faujdar021 4 ай бұрын
I have regularly seen examples of Jats and Rors having 35-42% steppe DNA. This I commented bcoz in the video it is said that maximum 30% steppe DNA is found in north India.
@dubeyvs6159
@dubeyvs6159 4 ай бұрын
What about the remaining part of DNA ...rors and jatts ate middle ages social identities , not the other way around ...there are pakistani jatts , sikh jatts and haryanvi jatts , all have different cultural, ritualistic and traditions. Sikh jutts are more autosomally similar to pakistani jatts from west punjab ( pakistani punjab areas) , then haryanvi jatts . P.S. I am a jatt from haryana
@ohlawd3699
@ohlawd3699 4 ай бұрын
LOL! 😂
@Ashish_yadav1234
@Ashish_yadav1234 2 ай бұрын
It's an average % most of have nearly 30% only not all jaats and rors have higher than 30% some have lower than 30% also high steppe is in Ahirs, jaats, rors, Brahmins, khatris and some other castes other castes have low steppe in North India and according to paternal lineage the R1a haplogroup gene which is said to be Aryan gene is highly present in Ahirs, khatris, Brahmins and the L haplogroup highly found in jaats and Sheikhs
@learntherightful
@learntherightful 26 күн бұрын
12000 years back, there was no andaman and no Australia, it was all one piece of land. We have Tamil linguistic evidence and also some archeological evidence, but the gov of india is spending on to find Ayodia and dwaraka but very hesitant to spend for the kumari kandam.
@DBenkotachar
@DBenkotachar 5 ай бұрын
Why anyone would think language and ancestry are linked blows my mind … groups can intermix and share words and that has nothing to do with genetics
@vipassana123
@vipassana123 5 ай бұрын
Because we have literally genetic evidence that Indias genetics change with the onset of Sanskrit and Vedic beliefs.
@Trivia-ss9uf
@Trivia-ss9uf 5 ай бұрын
YES
@vipassana123
@vipassana123 5 ай бұрын
Because the language change directly corresponded to a genetic change and migration into the area. The central Asian indo Iranianian tribal nomads migrated into India from 1900 - 1200 bce genetically per Vageeshs paper in 2019 (paper reviewed and pretty much cited by everyone). The Rigveda is dated to the same time frame 1900 - 1200 bce and clearly describes a nomadic tribal migration and is in an IE language with some borrowing from Dravidian words. So we have a language change and genetic change in the same time frame, so that’s why people associate it.
@Englishlearno-om6mt
@Englishlearno-om6mt 5 ай бұрын
@@vipassana123 we have evidences which predates Both Aryan migration theory and AIT. And I didn't talk about OIT in first place. UP findings near IVC unearthed Chariots, helmets, Swords etc tracks back to 2000 BCE or More. Which predates All the migration hypothesis. The Gap between Sanskrit and The proposed migration, No archeological evidence of migration/invasion, Theory is Based on Language words "matches" And not on Archeological. And pre vedic Tools, pottery styles were Already Found in IVC way before 2300 BC. Lastly Researches Done by IIT and Other anthropological units internations Found Cultural contiunity rather than Big migration
@dom4068
@dom4068 5 ай бұрын
@@vipassana123 That is not always true. Genetics may not be directly correlated to the language. There are other factors like the first evidence of Sanskrit also plays an important role in this. The Kikkuli clay tablet, found in Hattusa (Turkey) has the oldest reference to Sanskrit.
@jamieblake7050
@jamieblake7050 4 ай бұрын
The ancient ‘Indians’ still live on the jarawa & sentinel islands, not far from the Indian mainland.
@TheMoorishCourtofAlShaniqua
@TheMoorishCourtofAlShaniqua 4 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@akhesa8135
@akhesa8135 3 ай бұрын
And Andaman islands
@heavyhitter9186
@heavyhitter9186 3 ай бұрын
Not really india was a bunch of different tribes and what north sentinal island has right now is not any ancient vedic tribe but a very primitive tribal culture. Ancient indians were vedic and highly advanced.
@BeingStoic086
@BeingStoic086 5 ай бұрын
good video!! a Doubt how can saraswati be mentioned in the vedas,when the steppes came around 1800 BCE..Does the vedas were really written around 1500bce as said by many British indologists...generally many people who work on date of vedas consider it to be around 14k old ...?
@SpecialGlobalTalks
@SpecialGlobalTalks 5 ай бұрын
Vedas is made in India and not anywhere written or proved it is made by aryans so it is possible vedas knowledge is very old than aryans and come from indus faith
@sonar451
@sonar451 5 ай бұрын
As described in Rigveda about Saraswati, it is closely identified with the Arghandab River in Afghanistan.
@jothikrishnanpalanivel9641
@jothikrishnanpalanivel9641 5 ай бұрын
Buddies,concat lot of stories just like their Ramayana and Mahabharata which roots back to greece.since the time of immemorial only thing Brahmins have is story telling
@vinsin328
@vinsin328 5 ай бұрын
@@jothikrishnanpalanivel9641 Not only stories but a big liar about scriptures and text.
@SpecialGlobalTalks
@SpecialGlobalTalks 5 ай бұрын
@@jothikrishnanpalanivel9641 ramayan mahabharat stories is from India there roots from India all places peoples are from India in that book and in ancient Greek or other countries not have evidences of any ramayan or mahabharat ok and brahmins not make it
@vanjeer5548
@vanjeer5548 7 минут бұрын
They invited guest tried so hard to not use the word Aryan, but in the summary the host just had to put it back in.
@radinelle
@radinelle 5 ай бұрын
Very interesting and you make a complex subject more easely understandable. Great work.
@TheFutureIQ
@TheFutureIQ 5 ай бұрын
Thanks -navin
@Adrian-mj8is
@Adrian-mj8is 4 ай бұрын
I am Filipino. My brother had his DNA tested and it showed we had Spanish, Chinese and native American ancestors. We are proud of our ancestors!
@orvillegrant3304
@orvillegrant3304 4 ай бұрын
Of course. Spanish colonized Philippines. Philippines was named after King Phillip 11 of Spain
@Pdalim59
@Pdalim59 4 ай бұрын
I don't get the North American Indian DNA part.
@Towoawawabo8
@Towoawawabo8 2 ай бұрын
nothing from Africa? lol
@kathymiller8358
@kathymiller8358 5 ай бұрын
This is the most unscientific discussion I have ever seen or heard on the subject. First, what archaeological evidence are these guys talking about? Secondly, for God's sake, don't ever call the present DNA evidence conclusive regardless of which paper you are citing. And, are you talking about the carbon dating of DNA? Finally, I have looked at the linguistic evidence very carefully and new evidence is piling up to suggest the direction of the proto-Indo-European language ( mind you, I am not talking about Sanskrit) from the extreme Indian northwest plus Gandhara Bactrian area westwards and northwards. By the way, how did you decide that the Caucasian hypothesis had its basis in Mt. Ararat. It wasn't William Jones or Max Mueller or Marija Gimbutas or Renfrew. Surely, it seems to be your own invention.
@neocoolie
@neocoolie 4 ай бұрын
What a crock of s***. Real history is the vedas and puranas
@JN_India
@JN_India 3 ай бұрын
Navin Kabra 🙏 Wowww. Just loved your articulation and the stuff you brought out so so succinctly. Thank you.
@iitbpaf
@iitbpaf 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely fascinating! Great episode!
@TheFutureIQ
@TheFutureIQ 5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@truth_seekerwhatever7697
@truth_seekerwhatever7697 4 ай бұрын
Kashmiri people , not all of them ,have DNA R1A1A which is DNA of Aryan descent. Kashmiri language , food , culture and dresses are similar to Ukrainian people , the birthplace of Aryan DNA 12,0000 years ago. 10,000 years ago these people started to move to warmer climate to vast plains of Tajikistan , Iran , and India .
@DanoJan-mw3pd
@DanoJan-mw3pd 27 күн бұрын
That maybe so. Plain Indians preferred warm weather and the Aryans , or some tribe might have been uncomfortable in the heat and preferred places like Kashmir, Afghanistan and other higher areas.
@shashikantoak
@shashikantoak 5 ай бұрын
Don't feel bad Shrikant Joshi... Your habit of keeping left hand fingures touching mouth is irritating. Regarding the discussion, it’s fascinating how visual aids like pie graphs and images can enhance the impact of a presentation. Navin Kabra ji’s gestures and mild manners certainly contribute to the overall experience. As for the next episodes, exploring the impact of Chinese faces and DNA sounds intriguing. It would shed light on the complex interplay of genetics, culture, and history. Regarding the DNA-related paper from 2019, I’ll certainly look into it. Unfortunately, I don’t have direct access to external references, but I encourage you to explore relevant sources to delve deeper into this topic.
@TheFutureIQ
@TheFutureIQ 5 ай бұрын
@shashikantoak: Not at all!! In fact, thank you so much for this wonderful piece of critique! It is an unconscious action which I don't realize/notice while we are shooting these episodes but, now that you have pointed it out, I will be more mindful of this behaviour and ensure that it doesn't happen in any future episodes we record! :) - Shrikant
@sudhirkulaye261
@sudhirkulaye261 3 ай бұрын
I recently came across your channel and have watched two videos: this one and the one on The Blind Watchmaker. I really like the unique pattern of conversation between two people. I found your channel after reading the first chapter of The Early Indians. Despite the polarization around this book, I enjoyed learning about mitochondrial DNA and the Y-chromosome. It’s fascinating how scientists trace human migration over 60-70 thousand years. I was looking for video content to share with those who prefer watching over reading and found this video and your channel.
@aundreamellado6112
@aundreamellado6112 5 ай бұрын
The true history of India goes back 500000 years ago not 400 years ago
@lembubodoh
@lembubodoh 5 ай бұрын
@@aundreamellado6112 animal planet
@ThScptc
@ThScptc 5 ай бұрын
Why stop at 500,000? You are simply not ambitious enough.
@allegedly_pav5487
@allegedly_pav5487 4 ай бұрын
@@ThScptc😂🔥
@The-Heart-Will-Testify
@The-Heart-Will-Testify 4 ай бұрын
When did India land separated from east Africa?
@masesha
@masesha 5 ай бұрын
The biggest gap here is the huge amount of reference literature to Saraswati and the Vedas written in Sanskrit. If the Steppe herders a.k.a Brahmins came after the Indus Valley folks moved in to India, why does the vedas extol a non existent river when they came, this alone breaks the whole narrative.
@user-cl9bd1tz3b
@user-cl9bd1tz3b 5 ай бұрын
Well things is too complicated to understand it like that actually it's not Steppe Herders who formed Vedas and Sanskrit language rather it's the same Neolithic Iran Zagros farmers who formed both Indus valley civilization and Vedic Core but before this these farmers also had multiple mixing with other ethnic communities like Caucasus and Anatolian Hunter Gatherers and that Region was basically the PIE Homeland where Old branches of PIE formed later Zagros Neolithic farmers migrated to Afghanstan Pakistan and India to form Indus valley civilization and Vedic Core even though Vedic core started to form very later at around 3,500 BCE or so this group of Iranian Neolithic farmers became Pastoralist Kind of Horse Riders whereas Indus valley people developed into a civilization parallel to each other it's only by 2,000 BCE or so that when Indus valley declined and by 1,500 BCE steppe Herders mixed with them until that point of time Rig Veda Yajura Veda and sama Veda's composition has already been ended and last Veda Atharvaveda was started to being been composed.
@rkannan0emc
@rkannan0emc 5 ай бұрын
There is no archeological evidences of Vedic culture in indus valley civilization. The story of Saraswati river disappearing came from either a local folk stories or mythologization of a geological events
@ajqkit7gt
@ajqkit7gt 5 ай бұрын
Rightly said. Also how come Vedas don't have any mention of the Steppe climate, geology etc? They seemed to completely forget their homeland. Also how come the same Steppe people went to different places (India, Persia, Europe) but religions in these places turned out to be very different? Most likely the Steppe people brought the language but the religion of Hinduism, the book Veda is original to India.
@rkannan0emc
@rkannan0emc 5 ай бұрын
@@ajqkit7gt rig vedas talk about steps a lot and less about valley. Late rig vedas talks abouts agriculture. Migration will not happen in days but in generations. So no way it would be mentioned anywhere. Which literature in the world mentioned about out of African Migration? But DNA proves we all migrated from Africa
@ajqkit7gt
@ajqkit7gt 5 ай бұрын
@@rkannan0emc which shloka of Rig Veda talks about central asian steppes? I m hearing this claim for the first time.
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