Lies of History About Ancient Indians - Aryan Migration Theory DNA Analysis - FutureIQ

[@TheFutureIQ]

Books mentioned in the episode: White Man's Burdon: tapthe.link/WhiteMansBurdonBook More videos for you: India's overpopulation explained: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZvYo2l4qphjj68 Ancient India was 3000 years ahead: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWXTfZKjorqYjKM Science of Indian languages: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnK2daVmo9p8nJY History of Indian food: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGKodKNuhNKmrqM

[@incubusk8r]

Since you are educators, please, please check your typos. It's "White Man's Burden," not "BURDON."

[@lawrencerichards4073]

Didn’t talk about Tamil language. He must be an Aryan.

[@ripsanskrit3609]

​@@lawrencerichards4073 😅Maybe he didn't wanna talk about natives but rather what came in

[@dom4068]

Didn't speak about Vagesh Narasimhan research.

[@venkatkasireddy884]

Totally bogus guys, they literally connected it back to white man’s story. As per white man’s story those people in Middle East came from caucuses. Their timelines also match up. Lot more respect to those creators who publish silly shorts & tiktoks.

[@TilikumMolly]

I am Indonesian, but the test results show that my DNA comes from China, India, and Australasia. So, not only did we import the 3 major religions, sanskrit alphabets, rice, weaving technology, temple architecture, cooking spices, etc. from India, but also our phenotypes and genotypes were also partially inherited from India. Thank you for everything :))

[@sohelsaheen]

TRUE

[@zachbercu3230]

I think you meant Tamil. Most east Asian languages are inspired from Tamil script and not Sanskrit. Sanskrit has more ties with Arabic and some European languages but not south east Asian languages.

[@TilikumMolly]

@@zachbercu3230 Of course there is Tamil influence in Indonesia, and some believe that the influence of Tamil culture is more dominant. One of the arguments is because there is a story about the Tamil version of the Rama-Shinta story matched with Indonesian version. Even in the earliest Indian epic, the Ramayana, Sugriva, the head of Rama's army, is recorded as sending his men to Yawadvipa, the island of Java, to look for Sita. ha ha ha... Also according to the ancient Tamil manuscript Manimekalai, Java had a kingdom with a capital called Nagapuram. After all, South Indian culture spread widely since the Pallava dynasty from South India in the 4th century. But there are also many records that show that merchants from Gujarat came to Indonesia to trade and spread Islam here, so that in the end our nation experienced mass apostasy for the third time by Indians. Aha ha ha...

[@stephanatlas5331]

@@zachbercu3230 Arabic is not similar to sanskrit at all. It's a semetic Language. And Indonesia has a huge sanskrit influence

[@stephanatlas5331]

@@ananymouse3988 The word india came from Indus river, Arabs were non existent when India was florishing in ancient times

[@introvert2023]

There's no such thing as Pure Race and Pure Language.

[@Manish.89212]

There is. Andamanese Sentalese Tribes are Pure Ancient Hunter Gatherers 100% with no DNA input from outside. They're true indian in genetic sense

[@Rasimillion]

Tamil is pure language with out any language can stand

[@வசந்தகுமார்]

Tamizh has

[@Namse21]

@@RasimillionTamil/Tamizh like every other language in existence, has evolved and will continue evolving with every generation. No language is immune to evolution. A language can evolve slowly or fast depending on several factors but it has to evolve. Tamil has evolved from proto-dravidian just like the indo european languages have evolved from proto-indoeuropean and chinese langauges from proto-sinotibetian.

[@satoru.nakata]

​@@Rasimilliondravidians migrated from one part of the african continent around 6000 to 8000 bce. if tamil originated in southern part of indian subcontinent then what was the language they used to speak when they migrated to south india from africa? a language can't be formed on its own out of nowhere without from the previous language. so if you're right then dravidians might have stopped speaking their previous language and directly made a new language (tamil) out of nowhere and labeled it as pure language? how ironic?

[@americandoctor5356]

I'm from Punjab and my ancestry DNA analysis says 78% Central Asia-South, 19% North India and 3% South India. The 3% South India is quite strong as I love Dosa and Rajnikant movies. :)

[@EIPepe305]

They're not going to list Aryan on a DNA

[@TheGeoChronicles]

Jats were Central Asians or Anatolians who settled in india during indo Greek wars or hunnic period So I guess you're a Jatt that's why you have central asian dna

[@lianaminasyan1783]

Are you forgetting about the Armenian/Aryan/​@@TheGeoChronicles

[@KRISH57676]

From where did you get your test done ? And is the service available in India ?

[@klila16]

They are based on recent genetics. Originally my results showed 3% Persian DNA and 47% North indian (I am half indian). Now it has been changed to 10% South Indian and 40% North Indian. So you can see the ancient Iranian lineage is now considered a founder effect and has been changed to being indian DNA in my current results.

[@shadigital388]

Correction: we tamils aren't racists towards aryans. We are against their vedic era and caste discrimination

[@thuchu007]

Where can I find a vedic text thats mentions tamil castes like Thevars and Chettiars, mentioning them not to intermingle?

[@007Sanoop]

Sage Agastya, who composed hymns in Rigveda, and composed Agattiyam, is laughing at you.😊

[@ashleydean9680]

Totally agree- well sais

[@Mel-by7re]

and its important to protect the ancient language Tamil of India. Now its clearly proven sanskrit is not from India even genetically. lets grow up and accept it. Vedas are not from India. the rituals are not from India. Tamilians are free of religion, they are open minded folks who were into real spirituality which is devoid of religion. all religions are man made.

[@007Sanoop]

@@arzzhitzz Then Tamil language is not yours.

[@Defusedben]

Okay! In my opinion, we are here, we belong here, we should all live together, no matter the caste,creed or gender.

[@urbanmonkNH44]

That was how it was, till the Ariyan migration happened!

[@CHRS-ri5mf]

@@urbanmonkNH44 we have evidences which predates Both Aryan migration theory and AIT. And I didn't talk about OIT in first place. UP findings near IVC unearthed Chariots, helmets, Swords etc tracks back to 2000 BCE or More. Which predates All the migration hypothesis.

[@CHRS-ri5mf]

@@urbanmonkNH44 WHo told you? Yourself?

[@CHRS-ri5mf]

@@urbanmonkNH44 and Study done by US,ohio uni of human sciences and IIT, ASI shows NO evidence of a migration coming to indian subcontinent OVER 8000 year SPAN

[@dom4068]

​@@CHRS-ri5mfBut DNA evidences says otherwise. AASI is the original inhabitants. They mixed with people who came from Zagros mountains to create IVC. IVC started its decline by 1900 BC, and the Aryans or the Steppe Hearders arrived in 1800 BC. The Sinnouli artifacts shows similarities with both late Harappan (IVC) and Vedic culture. It may be better to separate the IVC and the Ganga-Jamuna culture and Sinouli is part of the second.

[@talharizvi8419]

Middle Eastern farmers arrived around 7000 BCE in Balochistan, Pakistan. Mehrgarh is a site where pre-Indus Valley peoples were situated. It is one of the oldest known settlements, where people were domesticating animals and practicing farming. Archaeological evidence from Mehrgarh also includes the discovery of pottery and other artifacts

[@m.sankaritm.sankarit2836]

But they wrote in tamizi 😮

[@springtheyounger7560]

They didn't have scripts.

[@3oranges4]

​@@springtheyounger7560in pakisthan there is still a language which very much resembles tamil and the language xomes from dravidian family... ❤️❤️❤️

[@VanaraVegeta]

Neeraj Rai actually disproved your POV of how agriculture started in india. His peer reviewed research actually suggest that Agriculture started Indigenously in INDIA.

[@amittripathi5068]

As Grains found in Mehargadh

[@blazer9547]

Lmao fake stuff

[@amittripathi5068]

@@blazer9547 ha bhai ghar ka hai na to believe kaise hoga.

[@Entertainmentrocks-t9u]

Genetic history of human, horse and plant de diya... phir bhi Lmao..fake stuff.

[@JonTodt775]

Agricultural started independently in many different places around the world

[@sivakumarmohan1612]

After a long time, I am seeing sensible and honest video about Indian ancestry from an Indian without religion bias!!!

[@CriticsYouBOY]

What type of history it is Where south Indian were mentioned as native hunter and gathers Purposefully _ Keeladi excavation finding were skipped which say there was a parallel advanced civiliazation in TamilNadu How you missed the reserach article _ which states that Indus ppl spoke protodravidian languages more inclined to Tamil I need a reply for these , or you make seperate video ; dont hide facts

[@technoyamraj]

Where is the proof that Harrappans spoke proto Dravidian ?

[@vipassana123]

Incorrect, the keeladi excavation is dated to around 500 bce, hundreds of years before the aryan migration

[@CriticsYouBOY]

@@technoyamraj research paper has come , go and read

[@technoyamraj]

@@CriticsYouBOY give the link of the research paper

[@CriticsYouBOY]

@@technoyamraj i have read long back , study Iq has put video on it U can check in youtube

[@rameshsadhasivam2093]

Tamil had letters but Sanskrit had not been written language before Gupta period! Why?

[@drashokkumar9209]

Utter NONSENSE Only scripst samples surviving were on seals and stones . In Prakrita languages . Stone scripts were simple . Ancient India had many scripts for Sanskrit , Tamil , Prakritas etc . Read " LALIT VISTAR " , biography of Buddha . Gautam Buddha was taught 64 scripts as a prince . Have you heard of BAKHSHALI MANUSCRIPT - 2nd century AD manuscript which shows a refined script with shiro-rekha and very similar to SHARDA script of Kashmiri language .

[@gamingwithzeeboombaa]

​@@drashokkumar9209so what where is sanskrit it is prakridham so ramayana mahabharat are all written 2nd century ad this is the strong truth u have to debate it

[@apjvideosthebest2930]

​@@drashokkumar9209😂😂😂 Valmiki wrote ramayan in sanskrit language with use of devanaagari leepi, when rama is alive,but fact is devanaagari leepi, saradha leepi, pandu leepi, created 2400 years ago 😂😂😂soo ramayana vedas all are 😅😅😅story books

[@e_jskeg9229]

​@@gamingwithzeeboombaa😂😂 Rigveda was written in 1900 bce do you know it?

[@TheThoughtfulBiker]

@@e_jskeg92291500 bc ?

[@Haveagodday-w8m]

Why don't you invite Neeraj Atri sir who has published research papers on this topic with scientific and genetic evidence?

[@priyamtamrakar6035]

They equally ignored IIT Kharagpur research,rakhigari excavation and khambat submerged city. So they took facts distorted it and came with challnel like idea so they can proove that Southern indian and northern indians have different ancestries. + Bramhins are more aryan in every part.( Propaganda of bramhical patriarchy)

[@alphaff9939]

​@@priyamtamrakar6035ok tell us what evidence do you people have ?

[@michaeljosephjackson2364]

​@@alphaff9939proof is that savarkar himself believed that brahmins are outsiders

[@elizabethvarghese5511]

They said North indians and South indians have same ancestry, but with different proportions​@@priyamtamrakar6035

[@priyamtamrakar6035]

@@alphaff9939 Read 2022 calendar published by IIT Kharagpur. Rakhigari excavation report.Carbon dating of Bay of khambaat's submerged city. This is only tip of a giant ice burg.

[@sibichandruselvakumarsamy4583]

Indus valley civilization is a Tamil civilization (தமிழர் நாகரீகம்) We are the son of soils of India Proud to be a Tamizh தமிழன்டா🐯🐯🐯

[@AbdulRehman-j6q9h]

I'm proud to be a tamiz muslim.

[@AbdulRehman-j6q9h]

Tamiz is the world's oldest language.

[@Doriel-DeLorenzo]

I was born in Chicago America and have Tamil Sri Lanka DNA

[@chidambaramprakash2434]

small detail, latest evidence has shown that tamil brahmins are from the indus valley so no arya vanderi spin

[@sibichandruselvakumarsamy4583]

@@chidambaramprakash2434 not tamil brahmin bro They are paarpanar (ஐயர் ஐயங்கார்) Tamil mother tongue A tamil society

[@krishanrathi9119]

Technically, North Indians and South Indians share the same ancient hunter-gatherer ancestry from mother side, with about 80% of our DNA in common and only a 20% difference due to steppe ancestry, though the percentage of steppe ancestry can vary among different castes. we are brothers.

[@reachingthestars8652]

So true. Ram Ram from Sonipat. ❤

[@RealCosmicVlogs]

But what about the prehistoric dna found in Chennai

[@sajeewakalamba1796]

@@RealCosmicVlogs They are the pure hunter gatherers who left Africa 65,000 years ago & settle in Asia. They migrated all the way to Sri Lanka. They were in Sri Lanka by 50,000 years ago. The oldest human remains found in Sri Lanka is 48,000 years old, which is called Balangoda Man as the remains found in a cave Balangoda area. The Sri Lankan aboriginal people called "Vedda people" still live in Sri Lankan jungles, are the descendens from those who came here 50,000 years ago. The aboriginals live in North Sentinel islands (Andaman Islands) are also the same people.

[@beetlejuiceapril]

Only males migrated here as Aryans ……

[@keralanaturelover196]

​@@reachingthestars8652😂 south india different look appearance and people intelligence

[@intodaysnews]

India has been attacked by many outside armies and conquered, but over time, the conquerors were themselves overwhelmed by india's knowledge and way of life. In the end, the agressors were conquered intellectually. That is why india has survived

[@yesu814]

Whoever came here accepted india as their own country except muslims. How much ever they live here in harmony, they always think arab and pakistan as their own country

[@CaptainGeek5]

What about the domination of modern India by the step herder (Brahman) DNA and their exploitation of the hunter gatherers even today in the form of RSS, BJP? Wake up! Islam is not the enemy, the CAST system is the biggest enemy of India! No wonder BJP is weak in the south

[@Mojtala41]

The same has happened to Iran. I don't think any region has been attacked as many times as Iran. But, eventually, all those invaders became Persianized!

[@stephanatlas5331]

@@yesu814 pakistan itself part of india ,given to them by indians

[@SyedaSamanGulzar]

Lolz. When outsiders come they bring their own culture knowledge wisdom and traditions. So the land becomes a melting pot of different cultures and races. Like many so called Indian foods are actually from Arab Iran Turkey and central Asia.

[@RaviShankar-lz7fj]

can you please give the links of the researches and references you used to arrive at this conclusion...

[@TheFutureIQ]

The links are included in the video description -navin

[@RaviShankar-lz7fj]

@@TheFutureIQ those are just book mentioned in in the video and other videos of yours... where are the research papers you mentioned...

[@krishgaming9080]

​@@RaviShankar-lz7fjsee tye reaserach papers of hapologroups in google search it and see the sample an average Tamil is very much different from a kuruvasnhi of north india cause .see the faces of north india and south india see theire faces are different and the north indians tend to be more shining and light in colour .

[@bhagathas3487]

@@RaviShankar-lz7fj the books have it i guess

[@DesCoutinho]

​@@bhagathas3487if you know how to use an book index and it's bibliography. It used to be a skill. I wouldn't throw pearls to swine.

[@remaru3948]

Interesting how they leave the African out of “ancient hunter gatherer” DNA and Middle eastern DNA. 😊

[@veronicajohnson3853]

I have seen many people from India with darker skin; I believe you have a lot of African-origin DNA. You did not mention the African Black race.

[@samaalehiil3221]

🤦 in case that all people would be african - the population in africa has also changed - & So the initial population that left africa are the ancesters of all three populations the study mentions make up the genetics of the people in the asian subcontinent.

[@thelastshallbefirst6531]

For one, I don't believe Noah's Ark is anywhere near the Caucus mountains. If they journeyed from the East back to Babylon, then the Ark would have had to land on a high mountain range such as the Hindu Kush.

[@krzysztofkarolak633]

@@thelastshallbefirst6531 you right. 8 ppl spread around the World and started new civilization? Nonsense.

[@TrollinOn22s]

I believe Dravidians which are the darker skin Indians are the ones who arrived in Indian.

[@whatapp4797]

Only thing what we can sure about is that there were groups migrating to India and groups were migrating out of India. So both things happened.

[@Mel-by7re]

read and research true history to understand this.

[@kandasamyramamurthi7663]

What do you mean by DNA of a specific caste? Can DNA classify and stand DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT CASTE? OR DO YOU MEAN SOMETHING DIFFERENT? Would you be able to correct or reverse it at this point? THIS POINT MAY BE CLARIFIED IN YOUR NEXT VIDEOS IN THE FUTURE.

[@ripsanskrit3609]

He talking how people of the same caste Carrys the same DNA

[@TheFutureIQ]

DNA analysis of 70 different groups (castes and jatis) of modern Indians and comparison of that with ancient DNA shows that there was lots of intermixing among the different jatis and castes until 1900 years ago. Then, 1900 years ago, the intermixing stopped, and the situation has *largely* remained like that till the present day. So it does mean that because different jatis and castes have practiced endogamy for 1900 years, there are DNA markers in a jati that are not found elsewhere and vice versa. -navin

[@jamesaron1967]

DNA cannot be changed without severely affecting the health of the individual. Why would you want to do that?

[@prashanttewari]

​@@jamesaron1967individual's DNA didn't change. It mixed with other DNA from other people over generations. And the fact that these DNA sequences existed in people from the other groups proves that it had either no effects at all or no harmful effects at the least. Also, only the successive ones survive and the unhealthy ones are rooted out over generations either way. FYI, most of these genetic markers actually are redundant and have no functions whatsoever.

[@jamesaron1967]

@@prashanttewari I understand, I was only replying to the other commenter who asked about posdibly changing his DNA.

[@MrAmhara]

The White man was correct. Sanskrit is not alien to India. The Dravidian languages are older and native to India.

[@rameshbabu226]

It's Tamils not Dravida

[@ashwin9841]

Tamil!!

[@ShubhamKumar-q9l]

Tamil is the oldest language on the planet earth

[@kingsamuelofficial]

No it isn’t…

[@vemmanr]

​@@ShubhamKumar-q9l Wrong. Tamil is the oldest surviving/living language. There are languages older than Tamil.

[@thesoultrotter5316]

Max Muller came from Germany. He was a scholar at Oxford and his subject was Sanskrit. We have Max Mueller Bhavan all over India which is promoting German language and not Sanskrit. He never came to India.

[@ohlawd3699]

Yep. He never put one foot on Indian soil, but he was an "expert", lol. 😂

[@blazer9547]

​@@ohlawd3699 he doesn't have to tho. He had his stuff to analyse at his tables

[@shrutivarrier1023]

He was a missionary with a mission 😁

[@sreeharshayarlagadda3083]

​@@blazer9547He became a scholar in Samskrutam in just 2-3yrs of study! Amazing. Just research about him He was appointed to write Indian history in colonial point of view

[@VinodRathod-iv3rn]

😂

[@Weshmorrey]

He said aryans who came from Europe but he didn’t say dravidians who came from Africa. 🤦🏾‍♂️ I peep game.

[@Kytt-ko8bf]

Peeped that too

[@MrAmhara]

The Aryans did not come from Europe. The White man is from the Middle East. Dravidians are not African.

[@Vshoko_youtube]

Drividians is not affrican he is group of multiple dna who come acrosh of Asia and stable in india ( that's why drividians are first Indian)

[@vecust]

​@MrAmhara Dravidians did move from Africa. But they kept on building colonies throughout the coast of the middle-east until they reached India. But it took them thousand years to migrate. But in the meantime, they kept on mixing through each colony they created. Hence, why the Dravidians dont completely share African DNA. They were mixing a lot throughout their journey.

[@yaynotx7]

Quit projecting

[@rameshsadhasivam2093]

Was india a empty land before hunters? No! Tamils are the original people of india!

[@christopherross727]

The hunter gatherers were the first no other humans were there before. You came from those people don't you get it.

[@AnjelLee-f8c]

Exactly. People just started coming to this magical land from everywhere. Lmao.

[@junnaredd9912]

Tamil is a language.

[@rameshsadhasivam2093]

@@christopherross727 how do you know it was empty before hunters entry?

[@rameshsadhasivam2093]

@@junnaredd9912 Tamils the oldest ethnic group, who speak tamil

[@arsalanmirza3411]

Keep it SIMPLE Dikra 🐣 and don’t be DELUSIONAL 🛑 The ARYANS originated from IRAN and spread towards EAST to the Indian Subcontinent and to the WEST through the CAUCUSES to EUROPE ‼️

[@gc95915]

South Asian Hunter-Gatherer did not speak Dravidian languages. In all likelihood, Dravidian languages came in with Zagrosian farmers from Elam region of present day Iran. Hence, Elamites-Dravidian family of languages is hypothesised. A recent paper even suggests that Brahui, spoken in Baluchistan, is a direct descendant of Elamite, though it is counted as a Dravidian language. Most Hunter-Gatherer languages have gone extinct and only Nihali and Vedda are known today. It is always hunter-gatherers who adopt the language of the settled population. A good example is Nagamese - the lingua franca of tribes of Nagaland, who speak mutually unintelligible languages. Anyone who hears it will not be able to tell it apart from Assamese. Same is the case all over the world.

[@prasaathvr4977]

Then how hunter - Gatherer's languages extinct, how Dravidian languages form . ProtoElamites and Dravidian are branch of proto zogrosians. Then how Dravidian languages extinct except vedda and nihali. Please don't get mad for my text 😅, can you explain it in details. I couldn't get anything. 😂

[@SpecialGlobalTalks]

All indians are mixed by DNA 🧬 That's why all are one

[@kavithagovindaraj7531]

Tamizh is not like that

[@SpecialGlobalTalks]

@@kavithagovindaraj7531 who is tamizh??

[@ripsanskrit3609]

​@@SpecialGlobalTalks tamil speaking people

[@ripsanskrit3609]

Yeah outsider came and mix with natives and spread they caste based religion with native people god and created stories on it

[@SpecialGlobalTalks]

@@ripsanskrit3609 there is no any native in India all are come from outside

[@navsribe]

Very good analysis and very informative way of explaining with full engaged.😊

[@vecust]

This type of debate always get the North Indians upset. Lol

[@blueSkyIs1]

what is the evidence of 1. Step -herders' language is a precursor to Sanskrit? Did they write books in steps that they carried? Are these books/inscriptions found in the present steps region? What script did they have? 2. Step-herders' religion being a precursor to Vedic religion?

[@kareem.10]

That part of the video was ridiculous. Steppe herders (barbarians) brought language and religion to a population that had been settled for thousands of years and was more advanced....that doesn't make any sense.

[@loksterization]

It's a fact. Their lifestyle is perfectly described in the old Sanskrit texts.

[@blueSkyIs1]

@@loksterization is it not possible at all, that they (steps folks) immigrated and adopted local culture and professions to survive? A Lot of Indian programmers migrate to the US and adopt the American lifestyle. Does that mean they brought programming to the US?? Try to find objective evidence of Sankrit already existing in the steps region. Without that, it is a sloppy argument.

[@loksterization]

@@blueSkyIs1 you don't understand. These Sanskrit texts talk in detail about the steppes where they came from. Facts are facts, this is not ideology.

[@blueSkyIs1]

@@loksterization Please post evidence and texts. And how you came to conclusion that they talk about Steps Also, very important! Why steps people don't take about their own place in Sanskrit that they are supposed to have been espoused??

[@Vaibhavgaunekar]

Bro how you do your research, pls shed some light on that also/ would love to know

[@TheFutureIQ]

A lot of it is following the right people on social media, and subscribing to the right substacks. Those give initial ideas, which I follow up by reading the relevant research articles on Google scholar or sci-hub or libgen -navin

[@Vaibhavgaunekar]

@@TheFutureIQ acha! Good to know👍. Ty

[@sameerparanjape5637]

@@TheFutureIQ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@HansJuergenStellbrink]

I think the male dominance of steppe herders in the North and their overrepresentation in higher casts might also argue for a violent take-over, followed by intermixing, as discussed for the Anglo-Saxon immigration into England. What is your view?

[@Jhansi0608]

That is how I logically interpret.

[@3oranges4]

Steppe herderers are very less in number 🤩 but they r keeping power, money and politics from last 2100 years by the name of caste. They made people forbidden from language( sanskrit), science, power and total slavery enforced to the so called lower castes 😢... Thats why sanskrit is today a language which is only in books😂😂😂... And it destroyed lot of other north indian languages inciding pali, brahmi, prakrit anf lot of modern day languages like marwafi... Marathi... Even pahadi.... and gujarathi... And alot of north infian languages... AnywY south is preserving its languages and ulture throughout decades❤❤❤

[@iuvvicuuivcr]

The IVC was a indigenous,urban civilization with extensive international contact, trade and a sophisticated domestic manufacturing industry. The Iranian hunter gathers are part of the out-of- Africa population that stopped short on Iran. The rest continued on towards India and beyond. So, essentially the hunter gatherers are the same affected by local genetics. The ANI carries the Steppe ancestry. Post 1500bc

[@KardashevIII]

I agree, the cast system froze the mixing of DNA. The steppe herders (Aryana) did not want to intermingle with the darker skinned hunter gatherer people. In my opinion, racism was the motivation.

[@billiondollarbaby973]

So Indians were Black for 60,000 years, up until about 6k years ago. Ok, got it. Tell us something we didn’t know.

[@samuraijosh1595]

well in the south and central part of india there's still a lot of black DNA left haha

[@billiondollarbaby973]

@@samuraijosh1595 I know this.

[@AnnHexTheCryptoSpace]

lol we waz kangz ngga

[@billiondollarbaby973]

@@AnnHexTheCryptoSpace we wuz whiet aryan Egyptian godz, building pyramids in the scorchin dezert but not europa🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Mellon_Musk]

​@@billiondollarbaby973 not only Indians, the whole world has spread from Africa originally

[@CHRS-ri5mf]

we have evidences which predates Both Aryan migration theory and AIT. And I didn't talk about OIT in first place. UP findings near IVC unearthed Chariots, helmets, Swords etc tracks back to 2000 BCE or More. Which predates All the migration hypothesis.

[@vipassana123]

Incorrect, the UP findings(Sinauli chariot) is dated to 1900 bce and has a cart (not a spoked wheeled chariot like the aryans) Even then, 1900 falls in line with the Aryan migration (starting around 2000 bce) and they could’ve been early central Asian immigrants before spoked wheeled and horse chariots were created

[@CHRS-ri5mf]

NO, its is Dated 2000 BC in upper bonds and UP findings are not only evidence we have.. Study done by US,ohio uni of human sciences and IIT, ASI shows NO evidence of a migration coming to indian subcontinent OVER 8000 year SPAN

[@CHRS-ri5mf]

@@vipassana123 NO, its is Dated 2000 BC in upper bonds and UP findings are not only evidence we have.. Study done by US,ohio uni of human sciences and IIT, ASI shows NO evidence of a migration coming to indian subcontinent OVER 8000 year SPAN

[@AutonomousEvolutions]

@@vipassana123 NO, its is Dated 2000 BC in upper bonds and UP findings are not only evidence we have.. Study done by US,ohio uni of human sciences and IIT, ASI shows NO evidence of a migration coming to indian subcontinent OVER 8000 year SPAN

[@AutonomousEvolutions]

@@vipassana123 No, pls be updated in New terms and reports which come over

[@maciejzniebuszewa8077]

Great conversation. Thank you for this beautiful arrangement of this puzzle. Greetings from Poland, Lechistan. We are Aryans and therefore you are - in India, our brothers ❤⚔. Fortunately, your beautiful women are not our sisters 🤗

[@baqirhemraj7639]

Foreigners from the north are believed to have migrated to India and settled in the Indus Valley and Ganges Plain from 1800-1500 BCE. The ancient Aryans were a group of people who were originally from central Asia. Three thousand years ago, these Aryans settled in India, where they established the language of Vedic Sanskrit, founded the Vedic religion, and established a caste system of hierarchical classes.

[@BrownHuman]

Great Video Guys. Loved the historical precision and transparency between the facts and subjectivisms. Although I have one question, I feel like you guys missed on the part where we see early stone age people in south India over 1.5 million years ago ? We have stone tool evidence in Attirampakam, Tamil Nadu from around 1.5 million years which are also the oldest found stone tools in India if I'm not wrong. I wonder where these early stone age people fit into your timeline ? Certainly there is a huge gap between 1.5 Mil years and the first mentioned 65,000 years. Would love to get that gap filled in this history of India timeline. Cheers!

[@TheFutureIQ]

There was a big volcanic eruption (Toba) 74000 years ago, which resulted in ash deposits all over the Indian subcontinent. There's no evidence that any humans in India survived this. As a result, any modern Indians are descended from humans who came after this and anything earlier is prehistory -navin

[@BrownHuman]

@@TheFutureIQ Isnt there evidence from archaeological sites in India, such as Jwalapuram in Andhra Pradesh, suggests that human populations were present before, during, and after the Toba eruption ? Stone tools found in the layers of ash indicate continuous human occupation, suggesting that humans did survive the eruption and its aftermath.

[@TheFutureIQ]

It is possible. However, tracking DNA markers indicates that only approximately 10000 humans *worldwide* are supposed have survived the Toba eruption, most of them in Africa. While there are tools found before and after the ash in Jwalapura, no fossils have been found so we just can't be sure. In any case, even if some did survive, they don't appear to have a big impact on the DNA of the later Indians. -navin

[@AG-dk6qb]

There was never anything found as evidence of 1.5 M yrs stone tools. This is more Southie fantasy.

[@mannyk2755]

Homo Sapiens came to existence around 300,000 years ago. Before that they were primitive humans, probably from other branches of human evolution . All of them extinct due to various reasons. The last known species closest to humans/ Homo Sapiens were Neanderthals and never lived in Indian subcontinent. There for, what you have stated is a false narrative. I don’t think your claim is a pier reviewed genuine research.

[@kpshriram]

Bro does not wanted to mention the “ancient hunter gatherers” as Tamilians. So much insecurity this dude has. Not even single time he mentioned or spoke about “Tamil race” or Tamili civilization in the whole video that makes this entire video a bogus 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🫣🫣🫣🫣🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@humanist7619]

Tamils are descendants of eastern africans. Your forefathers are black eastern africans who migrated to India.

[@kpshriram]

@@humanist7619 that’d probably happened some 60000 years ago unlike Aryans who came just 2000 years ago to India now they want to take control of the whole country

[@cartoonbaby5711]

​@@humanist7619 "Yes, all around the world, people came from Africa. Those who came first are the original inhabitants of the land."

[@mveel007]

Moreover he didn't mention that there was a land below the present south which was assumed to be connected with present srilanka and few islands...

[@veronicarussell6361]

They want to be Europeans don't want to mention Africa

[@AmanBansil]

I grew up in Punjab, India until I was 12 or so. It’s very cool to see a channel focused on science based education like this. I never knew all this!

[@lionofthehornofafrica3631]

Why do Indian deny their forefathers.The Dravidian are and we’re with their cushite brothers in EastAfrica all the way to ancient Egypt.Dravidian story goes that they crossed big ocean to come to India.Cushite and Dravidian started the Cush Indus Valley as its original name is called.The Chaldeans or Cholchian were a branch of cushite.They were dark skin like Dravidian and EastAfricans like Somali and Ethiopian.The Aryans called themselves Arya and Warya and they were pure in religion.Their pure was not colour but they were religious.The only people today calling each other Arya and Warya are the Somali people of Somalia.

[@junnaredd9912]

Dravidiands didn't exist during that time. Why you guys obsessed with dark skin? Look at your Tamil films. Look at the dark skin heroes and audience lusting over fair skinned northern actresses while shaming their dark skin Tamil women.

[@supremercommonder]

Stop your kanging on South Asia the people who left African 60,000 years ago mixed with densiovans becoming proto austoloids. Who mixed with middle easterner iranic 10k years ago than step herders. Indus Bally got no connection to anything from Africa

[@ashishnimonkar9990]

Very interesting and informative! Can you please include North-Eastern cultures as well in this account, as that is an interesting part of Indian history often left out.

[@TheFutureIQ]

Unfortunately, the research papers that I used for this video excluded Tibeto-Burman and Austro-Asiatic DNA from their analysis-because they wanted to focus on the larger populations. As a result, unfortunately, Northeast India has been left out of this analysis. I'm sorry about that. I am looking for literature on the DNA of Northeast Indians and if I find enough material, will try to put it up somewhere -navin

[@marmara9741]

First, stop calling North-Eastern, instead of people of Northern South East Asia. Have we given you a label that wipes out your identity?

[@lizzymoore54]

I’ve never participated in a “ recent “ DNA study but my husband and I were participants in The National Geographic Genome Project. This study ran for many years before we participated. It was interesting for me to see my mother’s mitochondrial DNA lineage, for this is part of my journey as well. Her line went through The Fertile Crescent, as they were among the first pre-farmers, ( as you so aptly put it ). I have a rare blood type, about 2% of the population of the world ( yet, there are a few rarer ones ), and my DNA is a rare haplogroup with a rare subclade as well. Her distant family ( 45,000 years ago or so ), visited many places over the generations but also settled for a time in India and Pakistan. Your American sister from an ancient other mister. 😉🤓☺️

[@TheFutureIQ]

That was a journey and half in just one comment! Thank you so much for sharing it with us... Appreciate it very much! :) - Shrikant

[@AnjelLee-f8c]

So, if people came to India and mixed with the local people, who are the original local people?

[@kanaka108]

The land was empty, no body there. This is his assumption.

[@SriHari-ix4nl]

​@@kanaka108shit assumption it's already debunked after ancient stone tools,paintings excavated from place near present day chennai which give a range 1.5 lakh to 3.5 lakh years ago .Either the arayan invasion or picnic therory is false or carbon dating is absolute rubbish (humans lived near Chennai,india before 1.5 lakh years not migrated 75000 years ago as so)

[@SriHari-ix4nl]

​@@kanaka108see only people who have not colonized by colonizers is india eg us (red indians) wiped out,South American natives wiped out and Australian aboriginal wiped out less than few lakhs of them survive and only place were they survived is Africa so if that's so then humans may either arrived in india from Africa and moved out form different races and also may be humans were native to indian and moved out of india to form chinese,Europeans,middle East etc

[@akhesa8135]

Leurs ancêtres était similaires aux peuples des îles d’Andaman

[@amitrahman8041]

Very nicely done guys. Probably the most well-presented overview of Indian genetic ancestry I've come across.

[@TheFutureIQ]

Thanks for the kind and sincere appreciation. We hope we can keep bringing more such detailed videos to you. - Team FIQ

[@k.dineshkannana.kesavarama7749]

They are telling Britishers are your father and you are simply accepting without any research. Just think once, in these kind of theories why always foreigners are always coming to India and why not Indians were not gone to eastern world. They are just bluffing. Just think this way, if Indians gone to steppeherd world and they given birth to many babies and brought back their babies to India, then also same DNA patterns will come. Ok

[@pari0088]

​@@k.dineshkannana.kesavarama7749😂😂😂 omg...the hate for British is clouding your rational mind... There is no DNA evidence of your theory hence it wasn't the case. Abd ut doesn't make sense for people to migrate somewhere and to come back

[@k.dineshkannana.kesavarama7749]

@@pari0088 you love Britishers, no problem for me. Have you done any excavation under the oldest cities like Kasi in India, it may reveal our forefathers were not hunter gathers but a highly developed human beings. Excavations in the remote areas will definitely say you are the descendents of hunter gathers. DNA will not reveal the cultural heritage.

[@k.dineshkannana.kesavarama7749]

@@pari0088 Those who love Britishers will definitely accepted that Peter's theory,😂😂😂😂. I'm proud Bharatiya.

[@ggamingtech1381]

So tamil is older than Sanskrit

[@penoge]

@@ggamingtech1381 Most likely, if it was spoken and written in Kumari Kandam, where Manu Vaivasvata most likely came from who was king of the Dravidians before he became the 7th Manu after the flood.

[@ExploreWorldAE]

No evidence. Oldest evidence of tamil itself is just 1500 to 600 BC

[@ggamingtech1381]

@@penoge I don't know if Kumari kandam is real. geography wise it maybe another land there is no proof that it existed if we look at the sea

[@ggamingtech1381]

@@ExploreWorldAE tamil formed when indus valley people left indus valley and mixed withthe language of local people but Sanskrit formed after proto indo European language mixed with local people language if this is the case Tamil is older by few centuries

[@penoge]

@@ggamingtech1381 Nonsense! You can see it with Google Earth in the east of India! It is an area of continental size in water depths of the level of the sea level rising after the end of the ice age. And science calls it Sundaland!

[@MATAK-sq3pp]

I must say thank you as the dialogue was so clear & without confusion. And above all enlightened.

[@mallutornado]

Since Africans didn’t practice Hinduism or speak Sanskrit, doesn’t it mean that the Steppe herders who brought Sanskrit 2000 BC also brought Hinduism at same period. In other words, the Tamils or original people here weren’t Hindu …is that a fair statement

[@user-p7thq3ch8s]

NO ARYAN NO DRAVIDIANS . SHOW THOSE NAMES IN AN ANCIENT TEXT .

[@javediqbal-r6y8l]

What you are discussing here is well explained in Quran. When Moses went to Mount for forty days worship , some of his followers made a cow idol and started worshipping it. When Moses came he was highly annoyed with his brother Haroon and his followers. As a punishment these people were ordered to kill themselves. Allah also ordered them to sacrifice a red cow. This is the period what researchers are discussing before 2000 bc. Earlier these Jews have also asked Moses to make idols for them for worshipping. These were Jews who may have fled from Moses to avoid punishment but Quran says this happened in Syria and Palestine areas. Some Jews of same period are also settled in Iran. Barring religious perspective this information can be useful for researchers in this regard. You can see the translation of surah Al Baqra of Quran. Al Baqra means cow.

[@appurock6052]

​@@javediqbal-r6y8l😂😂😂😂 Al Taqiya

[@manishaagrawal7846]

This is so detailed and informative, need to watch multiple times to understand and process this information!

[@TheFutureIQ]

I'm glad you liked it and I'm glad that you're watching multiple times! -navin

[@sramesh6704]

Superb content and it throws light on the many misconceptions and wrong theories which was a matter of debate for many decades.. . Great work... looking forward to more content like this..

[@TheFutureIQ]

Thank you -navin

[@sudeshkiriella-sc4wq]

Clear explanations. Bravo. Well done. Plz continue your work. Love from Sri Lanka 😊 Only one question. Since you mentioned the DNA only consists of male DNA. Its clear evidence of an invasion. If its a migration DNA should contain female DNA as well. Or according to your explanations only males had intermarried with ANI ?

[@khem127]

1000%!!!! I noticed that too!!! It seems like he's trying to say there was no invason when the Mtdna and the Dna in the people in some parts of India shows there was an invasion!!!

[@sudeshkiriella-sc4wq]

@@khem127 Yeah that's the case . I think because of popular narrative these days people trying to be politically correct. The represent evidence shows there were numerous invasions, according to my understanding I think many Tribes came from the north and settled in Gangetic plain and founded 16 mahajanapadas.People can call it migrations but native people won't welcome outsiders gently. So Aryans had to fight with the locals. They were one of the best archers and horse riders. Warfare is not a new thing for them.

[@VishalGhodke-bu3fd]

"Where did the Sanskrit and Vedic people come from? A mystery waiting to be unraveled!"

[@ramyafennell4615]

Brilliant, thank you. I have peace at last. Ive been following this topic for 20 years...i got so fed up with arguments I stopped trying to understand who was right. Profound appreciations for such clarity. Great presentation, and editing of sooo much information.

[@TheFutureIQ]

Thank you for the kind words -navin

[@PradeepKumar-hu4vy]

Please tell us when exactly all Vedas written and which group influenced to write it?

[@archangelempress10]

Search Sanskrit was first found in

[@patrikstar8466]

Aryans, whom he call Steppe Herders.

[@Anonymous-8080]

He clearly told that it was Steppe Herders

[@Curiouskannadiga]

And Brahmins or so so called upper casts are having dense indus and ancestral hunters DNA 🧬. This is messed up than GOT

[@SBSB-so7ep]

Actually konw one khows, there are so much speculation and most of this part written during mughal period

[@sanjayb4159]

First he debunks and then finally comes to the same AIT theory 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 No chance ! Keezhadi excavations DNA have proved that - no DNA entered indian subcontinent from last 15,000 years Period ! ( pun intended ) 😂

[@ExploreWorldAE]

YES true. Most of these KZbin Theorists are not true

[@vipassana123]

@@sanjayb4159 you’re incorrect. Vageeshs paper from 2019 which is heavily cited shows a migration into India in the 2nd millennia bce from the central steppe Asians. The keezhadi excavations are dated to the 6th or 5th century bce, well after the Aryan migration. Where are you getting that keezhadi predates aryan migration and show no dna into India for 15k years ?

[@sanjayb4159]

@@vipassana123 read all my other comments in the section for more analysis and then you may make more comprehensive reply

[@vipassana123]

@@sanjayb4159 you’re comments aren’t comprehensive nor can I find them. Please refute my points

[@praz7]

Then where did steppe dna come from and why is it highest in Ror? And please don't say that's scythians cause the eastern scythians were mongoloid shifted while western scythians were European shifted. Ror have DNA from none of those populations.

[@alvinsunassee4282]

Dear Sir..If the steppe herders brought vedas into india,why is it inexistent where they supposedly came from..?Zero trace of vedic culture in europe...

[@khem127]

The came from the caucasus mountains. They wiped out the Black people of Europe. Their home is not Europe. You will have to go to thecaucasus mountains to find their archaeological digs.

[@ohlawd3699]

Good question. The only place in the world you find anything like the lingum or yoni from Hinduism is in India. No where else. 😅

[@DesCoutinho]

​@@ohlawd3699although I prefer the ultrapostmodern name of India Bharat. Wakanda

[@ChintanTyagi]

He didn't say they brought vedas or sanskrit. They brought pre sanskrit and pre vedic thought. Be happy.. you can say India gave Vedas and Sanskrit to world.

[@junnaredd9912]

​​@@ChintanTyagi correct. Vikings, Aryans, Ancient Greeks and Zoroastrism have similar mythologies. People forget oral tradition changes through time and it was an important medium before the writing system was invented.

[@SmokedChips]

I am confused. Before this video, I had the understanding of Aryans coming to India. Invasion is more likely, if someone else occupies your land. Migration if they occupy nearby land such that there is no conflict. But this video asserts that it is migration whilst providing proof that it is an invasion. They mentions that the steppe herders (aryans) came without women. Who travels without women other than for war?

[@TheFutureIQ]

Did Indians, Chinese, Italians, Irish people, Polish people, Mexican people, etc. invade America? Heck, why go so far? Did the Gujarati people invade Mumbai? Did the Shettys invade Mumbai? Did the Marwadi people invade Mumbai? A land that invites and welcomes people willingly isn't being invaded. It is being made stronger by the collective strength of the people who settle there and call it their own. You assume that the people of IVC were the "rightful" residents of the the land but how can you forget that they themselves were migrants at some point in time? - Shrikant

[@garyjohn1822]

​@@TheFutureIQThe original people of Indus Kush are the Nubian Kushites who are the Ancient Egyptians who ruled Indus kush for millions upon millions of years Kushites had a highly advanced technological civilization up until the 17th century when the Indo aryans came from the caucas mountains regions invaded annihilated ethnic cleansed the Indegenious Kushites Bantus the remaining Kushites are now called the Siddis who are marginalised and excluded based on the racist cast system brought to Kush renamed India by the Indo aryans renamed Indians modern day Indians Pakistanis Bangladeshi destroyed the Ancient Kushite One world empire In Niger South Africa Cameroon they still speak Tamil

[@khem127]

Also he say's that in some areas, ALL the people had Indian FEMALE mtdna, and stepherder MALE dna, because the Stepherde males, "out competed for the Indian females". What a nice way to put it.

[@pierrefitter]

Ancient people are much like modern people, and were driven by many of the same motivations. Thousands would travel for trade, and sometimes they would settle down. Indus seals and other artefacts have been found in Mesopotamia, for example. There are even Sumerian tablets that mention trade and war with the IVC, using its presumed contemporaneous name 'Meluha'. Later, in Taxila & Nalanda we saw thousands travel from all over the world to study there and then some of them settled locally. Although many also returned home with their new knowledge.

[@jayanjayanthan5316]

Certain things are unanswered. The popular theory is that the Aryans migrated from Central Asia and the Aryan Culture is a continuation of the cultures, serially, Yamnaya - Sintashta - Andronovo - Oxus Civilizations, from there one branch migrated to present Iran (Proto Iranians) and other branch migrated to India (Indo Aryans). There are Archaeological evidence regarding the earlier cultures, like Kurgan burial sites in Central Asia and Gonur Depe archaeological site in BMAC (where vessels believed to be used for the preparation of Soma of Rigveda and Avesta were excavated). Why no such archaeological evidence regarding the migration of Aryans in India? Ghaggar-Hakra river system or Ancient Saraswati believed to be dried up in later Harappan period i.e. 2500 BC -2000 BC (which caused the migration of Harappans towards south) and Aryans arrived after, around 1500 BC. Then why Saraswati is described as a mighty riven in Rigveda? Why there is no mention of their trail or description of their ancestor’s land (of Aryans) in Rigveda (which is the only evidence about Aryans)?

[@vipassana123]

Well there is evidence via archeology regarding things like pottery and cremation. Also the saraswati was still running on its edges by the time the aryans came, it’s a common misconception that it was totally dry by then.

[@jayanjayanthan5316]

@@vipassana123 The after death rituals are one of the prominent characteristic of any ancient civilizations. Be it Egyptian, or Chinese or Nannangadis burial urns during the bronze age found in Kerala. The Kurgan burial sites of Sintashta culture and the burial sites found in Oxus area have unique features. People are buried with weapons, horses and some with chariots. If the Rig Vedic people are migrated form Steppes region, why did they change the burying habit to cremation in a short period? In Rigveda River Saraswati is described as a mighty river, river with strong waves, mother of floods etc. If it is a dried up river, how is it possible? Why no such archeological evidence of Aryan settlement in India like Gonur Depe of BMAC?

[@vipassana123]

@@jayanjayanthan5316you’re misinformed about a lot of stuff. The bmac culture had cremation and soma and this is where the steppe people picked it up from. The Sarasvati river was NOT dried up when the aryans came, it was still flowing at the edges . The Aryans migration starts around 2000 bce, not 1500 bce. There are several commonalities in archeology like pottery. You’re just incorrect on multiple fronts.

[@jayanjayanthan5316]

What is the archeological evidence of cremation. Saraswati in rigveda is eulogized as a mighty river with strong waves . Not suiting to a river with weakened flow.

[@TheFutureIQ]

Mention of something in the Rigveda isn't evidence. There is a lot of exaggeration in the Vedas, so we can't really give much credence to the fact that they called it a mighty river. In any case, what was the Saraswati river is an unanswered question, but the fact that we don't have that answer can't be taken as evidence that the migration didn't happen. And the points about archaeological evidence have been answered by others. -navin

[@nitienanand5116]

Question?? Are Middle Eastern pre- farmers and Steppe Herders also a mix of their local Ancient Hunter Gatherers who initially migrated out of Africa some 65000 yrs ago spreading globally. If so, with Whom ?? Did the Ancient Hunter Gatherers mix with in those locations ( outside india) and where did those local populations come from ?? If there were no original local populations,Is it that geography/ latitude location, changed the phenotype of Ancient Hunter Gatherers?? To allow for distinct middle eastern and steppe type of people?? Humans phenotype seem to be a a repeat of old wine in new bottle💥🤩

[@mikeynimbavat1436]

The thing is that every one came from one thing that is sanatan that is called as jambudweep wich is now termed as pangea that's why there is one sloka in sanatan scripture vasudeva kutumbukam which means whole world is like a one family

[@RadicaSingh-h1t]

Our Social Constructs is what makes us different. Trinidad 🇹🇹 USA

[@babroowahen]

These two propagandists didn't even realise to discuss this ... They have come with a planned agenda

[@melrickcrasta4629]

The timing of the migration are very different, the African hunter gather moved to India 65000 years ago, while the others were less than 5 thousand years ago. The African race in Africa is very different from the hunter gatherer that settled in the Indian sub continent. Both of them have had more than 40000 years to evolve seperately.

[@justdoit4789]

There is no such thing as steppe herders.

[@YashRaajSingh]

One of the most comprehensive and informative videos on the subject. Great job guys. Keep it up.

[@starsky5849]

The real Indians are the dravidians in south India because there were less invaders there. The Ayrans were invaders to the Indus Valley and they stayed.. The northern part of India has had so many invaders which is why the shades of Indians differs so much. Just like in the Philippines the real indigenous peoples are very dark but they have a mix of races. The Australian aborigines are of Indian descent and per DNA studies they migrated to Australia.

[@tumterlollen9953]

Why do you say Indian origin and not north indian? Because people speaking dravid language, the central indian tribes like mundari language and of course North East Indians except the Assamese people? Like the white Brits you too want to show that the fairer north indians are original indian.

[@theboyofjoyy]

exactly

[@Ashthebadthegood]

Mostly all the states in north india are mixed blood and these people only speaks hindi and they forgotten theyre own tribal original languages.

[@SriHari-ix4nl]

​@@Ashthebadthegoodhumans livedd near present day chennai for as long 3.5 lakh years because new findings cave paintings and stone tools and bone fragments hence out of Africa theory of 75000 years into india is fake

[@kathymiller8358]

This is the most unscientific discussion I have ever seen or heard on the subject. First, what archaeological evidence are these guys talking about? Secondly, for God's sake, don't ever call the present DNA evidence conclusive regardless of which paper you are citing. And, are you talking about the carbon dating of DNA? Finally, I have looked at the linguistic evidence very carefully and new evidence is piling up to suggest the direction of the proto-Indo-European language ( mind you, I am not talking about Sanskrit) from the extreme Indian northwest plus Gandhara Bactrian area westwards and northwards. By the way, how did you decide that the Caucasian hypothesis had its basis in Mt. Ararat. It wasn't William Jones or Max Mueller or Marija Gimbutas or Renfrew. Surely, it seems to be your own invention.

[@neocoolie]

What a crock of s***. Real history is the vedas and puranas

[@mdabid8392]

It's very hard to find that kind of unbiased knowledge on KZbin.

[@jahnvisingh8015]

You uploaded this just yesterday and the video has already crossed 14k views. Is it because of the topic of the video, or as Navin sir explained, just the effect of compounding ?

[@TheFutureIQ]

Bit of column A and bit of column B. The topic of the video was definitely a factor but the KZbin algorithm also recognized that we have been creating content regularly and (my hypothesis is that) it may have decided to 'boost' our episode a little bit... Thank you for noticing this little quirk - very impressive! :) - Shrikant

[@AnjelLee-f8c]

“Some of the started migrating into India?” Sir, India was a part of the Indus Valley. It was a large are that encompassed even a part of Afghanistan.

[@yourdailysupper]

I watched this entire video till 22:00 to see Navin's thumb missing. It shows how interesting this video is.

[@whoops0]

Well in that case, the first group to come to india can call themselves as natives. But now, no one is; however, if they have atleast 50+% of DNA matching with ancestral hunter gatherers, then they are clearly more closer to the native Indians. No wonder that cheras and pandyas are really old dynasties, considering their symbols which are Bow and arrow, and fishes. Both of them belong to hunting/fishing community, whereas cholas were hunters too who embraced agriculture later. Makes sense of what tamil nationalists are shouting.

[@jahnvisingh8015]

Your comment is a bit difficult to comprehend. Maybe try simplifying it.

[@whoops0]

@@jahnvisingh8015 so basically no one in India can actually say that they are natives of this land. But the pioneers of this land can claim themselves as native Indians. So, if someone has DNA that matches with ancestral hunter/gatherers(pioneers) atleast by 51% then they can actually claim themselves as actual natives of this land. Regarding the cheras and pandyas, both of them belong to hunting clans(vedargal/meenavargal - hunter/fishermen). Chera's actual source for survival was hunting, hence, the symbol of their flag is 🏹. Similarly, pandyas actual source for survival was fishing, hence, the symbol of their kingdom is fishes. Both of them, have mentioned about Aryans and their dwelling. Pandian king has a record of him when conquering the aryans. Hence he got the title, ARYAPADAIKADANDHA NEDUNCHEZHIAN - Nedunchezhian who conquered the aryan army. Similarly a chera king conquered himalayas after conquering the aryans, hence he took the title. Imayavaramban. In manusmrithi: 2:21 says that Aryans were in between 2 mountains (Himalayas&vindhyas) and 2 oceans (eastern&western sea). Supporting this statement, Tamil literature, Aganaanooru 398 says that himalayan region belongs to the aryans. Another proof, padhittrupathu 11. Also in Silapathigaram kaatchikadai, Kongans, Kalingas(odissa), Karunadakas(karnataka-note that karunadakas at that time dwelled right below the vindhyas), Bengalis, Kangars(gangas) forgot about you and formed alliance with Aryans. You defeated those 1000 Aryan Kings on the banks of River Ganges. This again proclaims the regions of aryan kingdom. Note the work "bank of river ganga". All these geographical indications do serve as proof for this genetic study. Hope it helped.

[@jahnvisingh8015]

@@whoops0 Your knowledge in this field is commendable, atleast to an individual like me, mostly ignorant to the history of the subcontinent south of the Vindhyas. Would you consider recommending books on the Cheras, Pandyans, Chalukyas, Rashtrakutas, Wodiyars, Pallavas, maybe the slightly less advanced ones. Being from the north of India, I have always felt a sense of fascination for Tamil culture and been intrigued by stories which encapsulate its glorious past, ever since my visit to the charming city of Madurai. The phonetic beauty of the language (I really wish I could learn it some day), the fragrant cuisine, the marvels of the temple architecture and of course, the splendid sonic experience of the echoing nadhaswaram in the temples, everything is vividly engraved in my memory.

[@whoops0]

@@jahnvisingh8015 thank you so much. But sadly iam not aware of a 1 particular book that talks about these kingdoms that u have mentioned.. Instead, I could recommend u 1 of the oldest literature in tamil. It is called Silapathigaram. Silapathigaram means the story of an anklet. This book is atleast 1900 to 2000 years old. It contains of a story of a couple who leaves chola kingdom, they try to settle on pandyas kingdom(where the husband dies), and then later the wife moves to chera kingdom. So this book, tells the story of environmental situations of ancient tamilagam. It is to be noted that this book was written by Chera prince who left his royalty and embraced Buddhism. However, this book is not in favour of any religion or kingdom, neither it is against them as all religions of ancient tamilagam(Aaseevagam, Samanam(jainism), boutham(budhism), vydheegam(veda religion Or vainavism) and shaivism) are praised. So this book will give you the idea how a layperson's life was in ancient tamilagam. Book: THE CILAPPATIKARAM OF ILANKO ATIKAL, An Epic of South India, translated, with an introduction and a postscript by R. Paarthasarathy. This book is also available in Hindi. Puranaanooru = Puram(outside) + naanooru(400) Aganaanooru = Agam(Inside) + Naanooru(400) These 2 books have 400 poems each. Puranaanooru talks about a life-outside of the person's body. It includes poems of Kings and kingdoms, nature, wars, and general people's life. Aganaanooru is talks about the life-inside of a person's body, which includes love life, person's relationship, person's feeling of other things around him. If you wanna learn about tamil people's culture, then these books are good. BOOK; 1. THE FOUR HUNDERED SONGS OF WAR AND WISDOM, an anthology of poems by classical tamil, the puranaanooru. Translated and edited by George. L. Hart and Hank Heifetz. I'm sorry, I couldn't get aganaanooru. Thirdly, the most famous tamil literature, Thirukural, is composed by thiruvalluvar. It is his statue on the sea, you'll see when you google search kanyakumari. This book contains of 1330 statements, with each statement having 7 words(4 in the first line, 3 in the second line). Has 133 chapters with each chapter having 10 kurals/statements hence the 1330. This book is divided into 3 parts: Aram (virtue) 38 chapters, Porul (wealth) 70 chapters, inbam/kaaman (love) 25 chapters.... All these parts are beautiful to read. They are very simple for a layman to understand. You also get books separately for each part. So this book is about ethical philosophy. If you wanna read the whole thirukkural, I'd suggest you this book. PEARLS OF WISDOM FROM CLASSIC TAMIL SERIES THIRUKURAL - DR. Anaivaariyar. If you just wanna read the 3rd part, which is awesome id say, try reading THE BOOK OF DESIRE by meena kandaswamy. And there are hell lot of works in tamil literature. Whatever I gave you is less than 5%. And there are still hell lot of manuscripts which are not translated yet. But i think whatever I gave you is enough to get u started. And whatever I gave you are atleast 1900-2000 years old. So they are like legit solid tamil contexts. But i dont I'm the right person to recommend you books about rashtrakutas and chalukyas Or the wodeyars. I cannot read or understand old kannada and sanskrit. Also there is a small problem here. For example, rashtrakutas reigned for 220 years. So it is difficult for me to get books that were written during this short period of time. Similarly with chalukyas who ruled 200 and 200 years. Their history if complicated as kept having territory conflicts with the cholas. Wodeyars are a totally new kingdom which sprouted at the beginning of 15th century. So i couldn't get a kannada-only-culture. It was easy for me to tamil literature because Chola, pandya and chera dynasties ended only in 13th century AD, 14th century AD and 12th century AD respectively. None of these kingdoms starting period could be found as their origin goes back very past in history that they are considered as legends. For example, pandyan and cheras are even found in Mahabharata. Meenakshi was a pandyan princess this was mentioned in Mahabharata. Because cheras chola pandyas ruled consistently for so long, I was able to handpick the literature easily that are at least 2000 years old. So please ask a kannada scholar or student regarding kannada/telugu literature. Regarding pallavas, you don't have to worry about them. Because pallavas are branch of cholas. This is found in Silapathigaram. When a chola prince married a Naga princess in srilanka, the pallava dynasty was found. Pallavas braced sanskrit unlike chera chola and pandyas who patronized tamil. Because they embraced sanskrit hence their name "Pallava" Which literally means "branch". Their stories are mostly found in temple inscriptions.

[@jahnvisingh8015]

@@whoops0 Thank you so much for taking out the time to write such a comprehensive response. I will try my best to read all your recommendations, hopefully obtaining a novel perspective of the beauteous Tamil culture.

[@BeingStoic086]

good video!! a Doubt how can saraswati be mentioned in the vedas,when the steppes came around 1800 BCE..Does the vedas were really written around 1500bce as said by many British indologists...generally many people who work on date of vedas consider it to be around 14k old ...?

[@SpecialGlobalTalks]

Vedas is made in India and not anywhere written or proved it is made by aryans so it is possible vedas knowledge is very old than aryans and come from indus faith

[@sonar451]

As described in Rigveda about Saraswati, it is closely identified with the Arghandab River in Afghanistan.

[@peaceandlove26]

thats why many historians says that a large part of vedas might been compiled around indus valley civilization either through the oral traditions or in some proto Sanskrit language. But Indian left with western marxist historians want to keep it on 3500 BC so thay can claim everything in India is from central asia

[@jothikrishnanpalanivel9641]

Buddies,concat lot of stories just like their Ramayana and Mahabharata which roots back to greece.since the time of immemorial only thing Brahmins have is story telling

[@vinsin328]

@@jothikrishnanpalanivel9641 Not only stories but a big liar about scriptures and text.

[@beetlejuiceapril]

Dravidians are the first occupant of India and Aryans were the first invader of India …… the funny thing is that the decedents of the Aryans call Muslims invaders 😂😂😂😂……

[@RichardRubendra1963]

I’m a descendant of both Indian and Middle Eastern ancestors. This is a fascinating video. Thank you.

[@rameshsadhasivam2093]

View of tamil scholars is Tamils are the only people of ancient india and lemuriya continent which is now under water and splited to africa,Australia,south america and other island s.Tamils were travelled to eroupe and return as Aryans! After many thousand years!

[@rameshsadhasivam2093]

Dheva neya paavaanar !- scholor name

[@UserId-ir4gq]

How caste formed in tamilnadu ? Nadars only dominating in south tamilnadu. Example in tamilnadu ,kanyakumari district 1000 nadar home along with 10 dalit family in our area. Nadar population only increased compared to others.

[@rameshsadhasivam2093]

@@UserId-ir4gq nadars are lower than dalits! But not in econamy

[@shadigital388]

​@@rameshsadhasivam2093 naah in tamil naadu brahmins are lowest of lower caste according to tambrams

[@BabyXGlitz]

what a relief, seriously though very informative lecture and I look forward to hear more, I'll subscribe

[@radinelle]

Very interesting and you make a complex subject more easely understandable. Great work.

[@TheFutureIQ]

Thanks -navin

[@zinima-og4nv]

Brilliant information. I have been told by my father that we were hindu some generations ago, still holding onto the cultures. You have so beautifuly descibed Indian history. We should have been taight this in school.

[@Safa-Nigeria]

LIFE CAME OUT OF AFRICA. IT PROBABLY TOOK MILLIONS OF YEARS TO GO ROUND. BUT IT DID WENT ROUND. THAT FACT CANT BE RULED OUT no matter how you try to ignore it

[@petecasso8364]

Came from Africa and evolved out of Africa also. Africans aren’t Indians although Indians contain African DNA.

[@gamingwithzeeboombaa]

So the truth is ramayana mahabharat vedas are all later 2nd century ad developed. This is the truth thanks for truth. Truth doesnt die. Anyone pls debate

[@gjl1211]

One question...before hunter gatherers who were here?

[@rishiraz1993]

Wild animals. As far as we know, all humans originated from Africa, and the ancient hunter gatherers were the first group of people that came to the Indian subcontinent.

[@Dipun7788]

😂 No one ( means no human), Only Animals...

[@ripsanskrit3609]

Me😃

[@ajqkit7gt]

@@gjl1211 Dinosaurs

[@pradeepsukumar8989]

We were at all times Homo sapiens.

[@rajeshbhatt6856]

I am confused! So, who were Aryans, Dravidians? Did they exist before these migrations? Or were they born after these migrations? 'Aryan' means those who worship Light or Fire! This word is found in our ancient scriptures. Also what about the Vedic culture? Who brought it? Who were our great Rishis? When and where did they come from? Tons and tons of knowledge from our ancient scriptures were taken away by those travellers who came to "Sone ki Chidia" and took the knowledge abroad! Many questions are not clear!

[@blazer9547]

Genes don't lie , aryans are the descendants of yamnaya who originated in europe. This video and comments are cope

[@anshulchouhan1482]

@@blazer9547 wtf this guys are literally biased and there is no solid proof of "Aryans " this is a word of Sanskrit and whicj means noble people and nothing else. Go and read a research paper of iit gandhinagar of ait

[@AnhNguyen-hn9vj]

ancient people are behaving different than today people. they basicly live by tribes and moving around through each other separate and combine and separate and ccombine all the cycles. The same with the nomad, the asians, and the american indians. it is very rarely that any tribe stay still in one place as they still move around even you are farmers due to climate change and war stuff. the concept of country or nation and fixed territory only come with the rise of empire and powerful nation. and even with the rise of empire and nation it is probably less moving around than tribes but still moving around alot.

[@jsways3048]

@@blazer9547 there is no answer for that noone knows for sure. Its just based on hypothesis of kurgan which is not fact just popular theory there are other theories and most likely the region is eurasia can be from anywhere between western india to armenia. Also pontic caspian is eurasian steppe not european steppe its part of west asia as well. Genes of modern indian are different from europeans. Indians and europeans have one common ancestor rather tha europeans being ancetor of indians genetically indians also have older r1a than europe or atleast similar age based on genes u cant tell who migrated from where only arhaelogy can solve this issue

[@anugrahmathewprasad172]

Very informative. DNA is such a treasure trove. Really impressed with the amount of information we can get out of this. Adds a whole new dimension to the study of history. Hope they can find new dna samples from more individuals and expand on the study. Thanks for sharing.

[@pizzalot]

Aryan Refugee Theory : ART

[@TheFutureIQ]

Whether you are deemed a migrant or a refugee depends on what (or rather, how much) you bring with you... ;) -Shrikant

[@outofturn331]

​@@TheFutureIQnon material stuff right..

[@nadiyavemantalks]

😂

[@GymGenie-bb8fq]

Most indo european groups spread their genes by their men (and we all know what that means globally-not very consensual love making) Interestingly most indo european invasions were extremely brutal and genocidal to the point where new populations were pretty homogenus which makes me think that it was indeed an invasion but that the pre herder mix were EXTREMELY resilient

[@andrew3869]

Those refugees created India

[@aundreamellado6112]

The true history of India goes back 500000 years ago not 400 years ago

[@lembubodoh]

@@aundreamellado6112 animal planet

[@ThScptc]

Why stop at 500,000? You are simply not ambitious enough.

[@allegedly_pav5487]

@@ThScptc😂🔥

[@The-Heart-Will-Testify]

When did India land separated from east Africa?

[@MysticalMythical]

Hi One question after watching this video. What did the stepp herders call themselves? Did they refer to themselves as Aryans or was the name given to them by posterity?

[@TheFutureIQ]

The word Aryans is a recent creation based on similar words found in Sanskrit and Persian (-arya) -navin

[@malindudissanayake7458]

From the research I've done it seems that these steppe herders didnt record things in written sense and instead did so orally. This is a common thing amongst nomadic tribes. So because we have no written records from their time it is unknown what they called themselves while in central asia. They only began written down records when they entered into India and the Vedas from 1500BC are the oldest record ones. They were probably orally passed down prior to this. But regardless historians have given them names. The original group from the Pontic Caspian Steppe is called Yamnaya culture, the group who diverged from there to the east is then called Shintasta culture and they migrated into India. The group who went West mixed is called Corded Ware culture. In a similar manner to how the Steppe herders mixed with Indian ancestral tribes, the Corded Ware culture mixed with the European hunter gatherer and neolithic farmer tribes in Europe at the time. Seems their success came from having domesticated the horse so it was very easy for them to travel long distance and disperse their culture. You can do more research on this, just search Yamnaya culture and youll get a road map of how they spread. Also if ive said anything wrong I would gladly be corrected.

[@MysticalMythical]

@@malindudissanayake7458 Wow! Thank you for such a detailed reply. This theory makes a lot of sense however there is one final doubt I have in mind. When these tribes started finally writing down the Vedas they must have accessed it through the oral traditions in practice at the time. How is it possible that they did not mention any of the places their ancestors came from? Most of the geographical descriptions mentioned in the Vedas are of the land between the Himalayas to the north and the ocean to the south. There should have been some mention of the people arriving in this land today known as India. I am not a hard-core believer of any theory but just trying to make sense through logic. Hope you could throw some light on this riddle 🙏.

[@malindudissanayake7458]

@@MysticalMythical Well I havent read the Vedas myself so I dont know of much of its contents. Maybe it might have reference to migration thats been missed. Historical documents are normally fanciful and exaggerated so small details can be lost in them. I do plan on reading them and hopefully even learning Sanskrit to read them in their original form. As for why the Vedas mainly contain accounts of the geography within Indian subcontient I believe it has something to do with the Dasaraja Yudda, the battle of ten Kings, outlined in Rig Veda. This is said to have happened around 1400BC, at a similar time that Rig Veda is believed to be written down and composed. In this it describes how the tribe Bharatas lead by King Sudas verses a confederation of tribes lead by the Purus. The Bharatas are a Indo Aryan rig Vedic tribe, however their enemies the confederation of tribes consisted of both Indo Aryan and Non Indo Aryan tribes. In the aftermath of the tribe the Bharatas won againts the confederation of tribes led by Purus, but in an uncharacteristic turn of fate the King Sudas when recording the battle allowed the defeated tribes to also join in and include their own verses. He formed a singular kingdom, Kuru kingdom, with all the tribes irrespective of if they were former enemy or not and this altered the political stage of Indian subcontient and formed the basis of what we see today. The Rig Veda is believed to have been recorded over 300 year period between 1500BC and 1200BC, so during this time various rishis from different tribes contributed hyms to the Veda. So maybe this is the reason the Veda is centered around Indian geography, one because the migrating tribes wished to call it there home and fully become part of it (same way even modern migrants are asked to integrate) and two because the ancestral tribes who were more in number were given equal say in the Vedas. A land formed not in blood but unity. Another thing I would like to mention is that the Rig Veda is split into three chronological periods. Early Hyms from 1500BC to 1400BC, Middle Hyms from 1400BC to 1300Bc and Late Hyms from 1300BC to 1200BC. And note that the Dasaraja Yudda happened prior to or within the Early Hyms period. We see that in the Early Hyms speak of a pastoral and semi nomadic nature of the Vedic tribes during that period with great emphisis on cattle and horses,being herders as well as a pastoral based economy and the idea of changing environment reflecting their semi nomadic nature. The deification of Cows is seen in other nomadic cultures as well, for example the Masai which is a tribal pastoral group in Africa also believe Cows are a gift from God and their blessed. Simply cause a large part of their life revolves around them. And I spoke of these steppe herders being the ones to domesticate the horses and horses also being a big part of their lives. In Vedas you have direct connection to this with Ashvamedha ritual, where the King imperial sovereignty is proven by a wandering horse. Then when you move into the Middle Hyms, which occur after the Dasaraja Yudda, you see the Vedas speaking more about settled societies and people engaging in agriculture. And finally, the Vedas are more about rituals, practices, philosophy and religion more than history. So most of these things cant be geographically bound, atleast I dont think so. These are the main two reasons I can think of. Again if im wrong in any of my information please correct me, Im very new to this area myself and very keen to learn.

[@intodaysnews]

Yes they did. He just avoided the word because of the negative connotations it has now

[@theonlinesamosa]

What percent of steppe population is Mongolian/Asian (i see reports that it is 88% Asian-Chinese) is this correct?

[@myutubeforall]

Well you mentioned about humans travelling to New Zealand. It's not correct there is no evidence to support this claim. The Polynesians came here and were the first settlers in New Zealand about a thousand years back.

[@vinsin328]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polynesians#/media/File:Chronological_dispersal_of_Austronesian_people_across_the_Pacific.svg

[@jmnaik6]

Yes, correct. NZ Māoris are not directly related to the Australian natives, who might have travelled through the Indian subcontinent, but are now thought to be related to ancient Taiwanese.

[@TheFutureIQ]

You are right! I'm sorry, I seem to have mis-read something or fallen for one of the older incorrect theories of ancient humans in New Zealand. As you say, humans reached Australia long ago but reached New Zealand only a thousand years back. Will try to get this corrected if possible. Thanks for pointing it out. - navin.

[@TheFutureIQ]

@myutubeforall the reference to New Zealand in that sentence has been removed in the video. Thanks again for pointing out the mistake.

[@SantoshK.Mangalore]

I'm not an expert on any of the subjects discussed. India that is Bharat. May i suggest that [1]you use the words like Northern India and Southern India rather than North and South India. [2] Suggest dropping the use of the word 'caste' and use words like 'social segments', as the word 'caste' appeared just 250 years by the Colonists. [3] The civilisation that developed on the banks of the Saraswati River, dispersed/ resettled in many directions, after the sudden drying up due to tectonic plate events. [4] The anomaly of same DNA patterns found amongs brahmins (vedic sanatan) and some tribals like Gonds (animists), etc [5] The mythical origin of the Abrahamic Religion from Abraham & Sarah and (a)brahm & Sara(wati). Uncanny simililarity!!! [6] it would be preferred to use the word central-asian rather that Cacausian. [7] The discovery of religio artifacts around the Globe, similar to the ones found in Bharat. --- your feedback would be appreciated. सत्यमेव जयते

[@DesCoutinho]

The linguistic link between Abraham Brahma and Sarah Saraswati tickled me. Aurobindo had argued I may misrecall that the foreign gid of ecstacy Dionysus was etymologically linked to the Deus if Nyssa in India. And it's followers bacchants to the bahkti tradition of the lord siva

[@truth_seekerwhatever7697]

Kashmiri people , not all of them ,have DNA R1A1A which is DNA of Aryan descent. Kashmiri language , food , culture and dresses are similar to Ukrainian people , the birthplace of Aryan DNA 12,0000 years ago. 10,000 years ago these people started to move to warmer climate to vast plains of Tajikistan , Iran , and India .

[@sudhirkulaye261]

I recently came across your channel and have watched two videos: this one and the one on The Blind Watchmaker. I really like the unique pattern of conversation between two people. I found your channel after reading the first chapter of The Early Indians. Despite the polarization around this book, I enjoyed learning about mitochondrial DNA and the Y-chromosome. It’s fascinating how scientists trace human migration over 60-70 thousand years. I was looking for video content to share with those who prefer watching over reading and found this video and your channel.

[@anjalimewade5211]

I have read content from books but some gap was there, you guys explained everything in a sequence with evidence... thanks for the addition in the knowledge ofcourse scientifically...keep going on sharing all the perspective of topics which are really important for the young generation to understand in a broader way.👍

[@jamieblake7050]

The ancient ‘Indians’ still live on the jarawa & sentinel islands, not far from the Indian mainland.

[@TheMoorishCourtofAlShaniqua]

Thank you.

[@akhesa8135]

And Andaman islands

[@heavyhitter9186]

Not really india was a bunch of different tribes and what north sentinal island has right now is not any ancient vedic tribe but a very primitive tribal culture. Ancient indians were vedic and highly advanced.

[@anandpandeya5727]

Entire theory is a figment of imagination, essentially based on British historians and their time line. He has just altered the Aryan invasion theory as it doesn't stand test of scrutiny. Why there are little trace of Sanskrit & Vedic culture in lands whose people are supposed to have brought them to India. After all only a handful were supposed to have migrated. Migration is not always one way, it happens both ways over a long period. Brahmins not only of different parts of India possess different physical features, but of the same location also. The astrological events mentioned in Mahabharata dates back to 4000 BC and chariots of Sanauli are supposed to be 3800 yrs old, which doesn't match with his chronology. Besides, a society which at least about 2500 yrs ago, already had such advance knowledge of astrology, medicine, economics and law, ought to have continued for far longer than claimed in this video. He has just tried to draw a line between right and left..

[@krishgaming9080]

Man you are so confusing early dwapar yuga brahmins are indigenous kalyuga brahmins are from europe 😂😂😂

[@krishgaming9080]

Cause we Indians are zagros also zagros or iran people were very intelligent

[@krishgaming9080]

Brahmins have r1a

[@ExploreWorldAE]

yes True we have evidences which predates Both Aryan migration theory and AIT. And I didn't talk about OIT in first place. UP findings near IVC unearthed Chariots, helmets, Swords etc tracks back to 2000 BCE or More. Which predates All the migration hypothesis. The Gap between Sanskrit and The proposed migration, No archeological evidence of migration/invasion, Theory id 87% Based on Language words "matches" And not on Archeological. pre vedic Tools, pottery styles were Already Found in IVC way before 2300 BC. Lastly Researches Done by IIT and Other anthropological units internations Found Cultural contiunity rather than Big migration

[@vipassana123]

@@anandpandeya5727 you’re incorrect on several fronts. there is tons of traces and commonalities between sanskrit / vedic culture outside of India and in the Central Steppe/central Asia area. For example: cremation, Soma, horse worship, horse domestication, nomadic tribal living, and chariots. That’s because steppe people / bmac culture brought some of these ideas to India through migration and trade. You are also grossly misinformed about the Sinauli burial . The sinauli chariot is dated to around 1900 bce. Astrological math is not evidence by any means. Where are you getting that it’s dated to 3800 bce ?

[@MaryLove-d5w]

I found this so fascinating and well done and explained. Got yourself a new subscriber.

[@iitbpaf]

Absolutely fascinating! Great episode!

[@TheFutureIQ]

Thanks!

[@davidjaikaran4132]

This is an awesome discussion. I will have to watch this a few times to grasp all the subtle crux of wisdom here. I don’t know if you guys could do an episode on the step herders for they are a true mystery.

[@sunilsangbo]

Why you call your self as Aryan. Who are other

[@stephanatlas5331]

Not other,Real aryan word only found in Hindu text and ancient Iranian texts, europeans copied it from India

[@glennlopez6772]

There has always been a tendency for usurpers, outsiders in any area, to claim that they always lived there, specially with small abodes and shops! Obviously they have been planted there by big goons! Supported by corrupt officials!

[@ssdravidian]

What about words words in non hindu text?.......talking about other races?

[@KindPersan]

He us just singing old song. Nothing new

[@vigneshwaran.k802]

This video lacks evidence and its a hypothesis.

[@DBenkotachar]

Why anyone would think language and ancestry are linked blows my mind … groups can intermix and share words and that has nothing to do with genetics

[@vipassana123]

Because we have literally genetic evidence that Indias genetics change with the onset of Sanskrit and Vedic beliefs.

[@Trivia-ss9uf]

YES

[@vipassana123]

Because the language change directly corresponded to a genetic change and migration into the area. The central Asian indo Iranianian tribal nomads migrated into India from 1900 - 1200 bce genetically per Vageeshs paper in 2019 (paper reviewed and pretty much cited by everyone). The Rigveda is dated to the same time frame 1900 - 1200 bce and clearly describes a nomadic tribal migration and is in an IE language with some borrowing from Dravidian words. So we have a language change and genetic change in the same time frame, so that’s why people associate it.

[@Englishlearno-om6mt]

@@vipassana123 we have evidences which predates Both Aryan migration theory and AIT. And I didn't talk about OIT in first place. UP findings near IVC unearthed Chariots, helmets, Swords etc tracks back to 2000 BCE or More. Which predates All the migration hypothesis. The Gap between Sanskrit and The proposed migration, No archeological evidence of migration/invasion, Theory is Based on Language words "matches" And not on Archeological. And pre vedic Tools, pottery styles were Already Found in IVC way before 2300 BC. Lastly Researches Done by IIT and Other anthropological units internations Found Cultural contiunity rather than Big migration

[@dom4068]

@@vipassana123 That is not always true. Genetics may not be directly correlated to the language. There are other factors like the first evidence of Sanskrit also plays an important role in this. The Kikkuli clay tablet, found in Hattusa (Turkey) has the oldest reference to Sanskrit.

[@jenneyalberts1336]

I am an Australian first nations woman. I found this very interesting thank you.

[@freetamilnaduandsouthfromi2984]

Proud Dravidian from South India ❤