Life as a Bar student (BPTC)

[@IvorXianZ]

Sub for more about academics: 'Truth about studying abroad (UK & AUS)' - kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnfZd6GurbeZZ8k 'Life as a law student' - kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpzOYaqfpc2qmrc 'Life as a Bar student (BPTC)' - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaDXfo1qaNqUjbs 'How to survive BPTC' - kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWS8l6F8m6iFo68 '4 things I've should've known before studying abroad UK: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnKWeJmhfryLjZI

[@alihassanabbas8549]

Thank you... Praying for you that you will be a great barrister and a human being. Going to bar this year.. after my LLb and LLm from Uk.. God bless

[@IvorXianZ]

SO KIND!!!! go get called and keep grinding man!!

[@IvorXianZ]

hey my another BPTC video for further explanation is up on my channel that u might wanna check it out :)

[@RamloghunLuv]

Thanks for the motivation, am going for my bar this jan. Really Excited.

[@lisajennie9453]

Cannot believe the tutor was that angry! Which university is this? I am doing my bar in city law school...and the tutors are suuuper nice and friendly!

[@IvorXianZ]

For further Q&A about BPTC, I've made a recent video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWS8l6F8m6iFo68

[@hellow4130]

Can you do more videos about the BPTC? Application process? Experience with qualifying sessions? What are exams like?

[@IvorXianZ]

SOON!!!

[@IvorXianZ]

hey there, my video bout BPTC is up ' How to survive BPTC' so u might wanna check it out on my channel :)

[@vishalkumar-sl4jj]

good luck ix, helpful video..wish you a sucessful career

[@quistinlee3123]

THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEO! IT IS INFORMATIVE AND HELPFUL!!

[@IvorXianZ]

no problem Quistin

[@rorybahh]

Great Video :) Thanks so much for uploading this ! Really helpful :)

[@IvorXianZ]

you're welcome! make sure u check out my other Q&A video about BPTC

[@True-Justice88]

Hi Ivor, first of all, I wish to congratulate you for being called to the Bar of England and Wales as a Barrister at Law! As a Barrister at Law your qualification is recognised worldwide or at least in Commonwealth countries whereas the CLP is good only in Malaysia, am I right? And very soon you will be called to the High Court of Malaya as an Advocate and Solicitor. Before that, I wish to ask you a few questions regarding BPTC, if it is okay with you. Can I know:- 1. Was it tough to pass the BCAT? Where did you take the BCAT? 2. Do you need at least a 2:1 in your LLB to get admitted to the BPTC? 3. Last but not least, what was the average age of BPTC students at the BPTC provider you attended? How many Malaysian students and were there mature students, like really mature lol..say, above 45 years of age? Thanks and happy chambering to you!

[@IvorXianZ]

Thank you Pat Hiew. It is recognised in most commonwealth countries but we would still need to take some bar papers in that particular country to be qualified as a lawyer there. U might wanna check out my BPTC video I did on my channel for the answers :)

[@WomanofSubstance]

you're awesome!

[@IvorXianZ]

Thank you so much!

[@hdlivestream5243]

very helpful video.

[@ahtshambashir2059]

Hi Ivor, can you explain bit about assessments and deadlines? How to meet them?

[@IvorXianZ]

During the BPTC, you'll have deadlines every week, meaning you gotta do your SGS (small group sessions) homework before u turn up to class, otherwise you'd be marked as absent for not doing work even though u attended the class lol. For Advocacy, term 1 submission, u gotta submit skeleton argument a week before your advocacy. That was pretty intense given that we had to take care of the other 4 modules in term 1. For assessments (examinations), in my year, I was lucky enough to have all of 10 assessments spreaded out evenly every week. so it wasn't that bad.

[@ahtshambashir2059]

@@IvorXianZ thanks for your reply. I am starting in September and Everybody is scaring me of the amount of work.

[@IvorXianZ]

hey my another BPTC video for further explanation is up on my channel that u might wanna check it out :)

[@ahtshambashir2059]

@@IvorXianZ thanks. I'm nearly done with my BPTC. Our centralised exams are postponed until August due to pandemic crisis.

[@sarahjosiah6520]

your intro was crazy. woow

[@AwesomeMusic94]

Hi Congratulations!! I would like to ask, if you fail one module, do you just resit for that one module or do you have to resit all 12 modules again?

[@IvorXianZ]

you'd only have to resit that particular failed module but maximum 3 times.

[@sazidsalauddin8940]

Hey...would b great help if u could pls tell if any university provides 80-100% scholarship for bptc in universities in UK or canada or germany?

[@IvorXianZ]

U could try to apply the 4 inns (middle temple inn and etc) where they provide scholarships but very limited chances to get BPTC scholarship. You can try tho. BPTC only works in UK so I doubt canada or germany has it. LPC has better chances of getting scholarships via tenancy where u are bound to work for them after you're done with LPC (solicitor's programme). Not a lot of them sponsor BPTC cuz it's a barrister programme

[@lawlessex]

Can u gimme some tips i am about to enroll into Uni of London international programme LLB And then aim to be a barrister from UK

[@IvorXianZ]

good luck cuz you'll gonna need it. where will you be doing your external UOL?

[@lawlessex]

Ivor Xian Z in pakistan cuz I don’t have A levels or international recognised prior education So i don’t want to waste 1 year on foundation Das why will do external llb then llm and bar from london

[@IvorXianZ]

@@lawlessex oh that's good! I've got a few Bangaladesh friends who did the same too! Done UOL and did the bar in UK. U just need hard work and dedication.

[@lawlessex]

Ivor Xian Z but what about pupillage stuff The ratios were not good And im thinking to move to Queen mary after 1 year

[@IvorXianZ]

@@lawlessex what do u mean by ratio? the passing rate or the students in a class?

[@mdsalemurrahman8419]

What's your opinion about BPP tho? I got offer letter from Bpp London Holborn and accepted it too :x

[@IvorXianZ]

hi there, u might wanna check out my BPTC video on my channel :) BPP London would be more competitive considering the big cohort

[@IvorXianZ]

GOOD LUCK MAN

[@theghostfacethriller9375]

Once you do a bar vocational do you have to do the qualifying sessions in the inn and pupilage within 9 months or can you just do bar vocational then go abroad and apply that qualification ?

[@IvorXianZ]

BPTC + 12 qualifying sessions THEN 9 months pupilage, if that's what you're asking

[@theghostfacethriller9375]

Ivor Xian Z ok so bar vocational course + 12 qualifying sessions +9 months pupilage = ready to work as barrister. Can there be gaps between these or do you need to these condensed ? Can someone take their 1 year bar vocational expertise abroad and gain the other two components abroad ? (Pupilage, qualifying sessions) .Thanks

[@IvorXianZ]

@@theghostfacethriller9375 gaps for 2 years maximum after you're done with BPTC. Hmm I think you've mixed it up. Qualifying sessions are within BPTC, u gotta finish 12 qualifying sessions in order to pass.

[@theghostfacethriller9375]

Ivor Xian Z I get you re qualifying sessions within BPTC, I see now. 2 years maximum is also interesting. Otherwise the qualification becomes invalid. Another burning question was with the aptitude test ? Is pass marginal on the BCAT test still a pass ? It talks of pass marginal on BCAT aptitude , just wanted to make sure that’s still a pass, or whether you must strongly pass. It was my first go and a bit rushed. Thanks for help

[@opaka3291]

Can I ask what inn you joined??

[@tiawong4015]

Hi Ivor, Im actually thinking about register for BPTC in 2020, Im doing some research in the BPTC providers, would you please help to suggest if the following 3 University is better to take the course and if you dont mind, may I ask y? 1. BPP University 2. Nottingham Trent University 3. Cardiff University

[@IvorXianZ]

hey Tia, glad to help but here's a disclaimer as I . only heard from my peers who did BPTC from these institutions in your list so the opinions might be subjective. 1. BPP University - depends on which branch do u go to. BPP London has the largest cohorts, hence, can be competitive for internal modules. The exam dates for each modules were kinda packed for example: 2 weeks before external modules exams, City Law and Cardiff uni students would be done with all those internal exams and can focus on the external modules like Ethics, Civil and Criminal. Whereas BPP students would still be preparing for internal exams (Conference/Advocacy etc) and left only one week to prepare for the external exams. This affects a lot on the assessments and the passing rate in my opinion. 2. Nottingham Trent Uni Only one of my mates who went to Nottingham Trent for BPTC and she managed to pass all modules on 2nd attempt - failed on external papers only 3. Cardiff Uni This may be the strictest one so far I've heard as there was once where my friend wasn't prepared for one of the SGS (tutorials), he was marked absent regardless of being present in the class but just weren't able to answer question in full. And for their Opinion Writing assessment, they weren't allowed to bring statutes or sample answers in, unlike BPP and City Law. But despite being the strictest, they have the highest passing rate amongst all I think. hope this helps and all the best of luck x

[@IvorXianZ]

hey my another BPTC video for further explanation is up on my channel that u might wanna check it out :)

[@alyamoktar7477]

Is bptc just a written exam? And would you recommend the bptc?

[@IvorXianZ]

2 out of 10 modules are based on oral assessments. Yes I would recommend BPTC if your finance permits lol

[@IvorXianZ]

hey my another BPTC video for further explanation is up on my channel that u might wanna check it out :)

[@dizzxcx]

Were you reading blackstone and white book together ?

[@IvorXianZ]

u noob

[@leonkerk5205]

Is it very hard to cope with various types of stuff? Like qualifying sessions, pro bono work

[@IvorXianZ]

Time management is really important during BPTC but pro bono work is only compulsory for BPP uni, not in other BPTC institutions. Qualifying sessions: depends on which Inn you're in. Middle temple Inn has the biggest group so it might be hard to secure a qualifying sessions during weekends if you're out of London.

[@hellow4130]

Ivor Xian Z Isn’t Lincoln Inn the one with the most members?

[@IvorXianZ]

hey my another BPTC video for further explanation is up on my channel that u might wanna check it out :)

[@clair233]

What are your plans next ?

[@IvorXianZ]

I'm currently doing my chambering in Malaysia :)

[@Toast-u3r]

Hi again which University did you go to take LLB law?

[@IvorXianZ]

Cardiff University

[@IvorXianZ]

hey my another BPTC video for further explanation is up on my channel that u might wanna check it out :)

[@ebonymcphee6095]

Hi, how hard have you found the bptc? Are you in lessons everyday?

[@IvorXianZ]

harder than my current pupillage lol. yes I had classes back to back everyday

[@IvorXianZ]

hey my another BPTC video for further explanation is up on my channel that u might wanna check it out :)

[@ebonymcphee6095]

@@IvorXianZ congrats on pupillage! I'm going to keep trying :)

[@IvorXianZ]

@@ebonymcphee6095 where are u from btw?

[@IvorXianZ]

@@ebonymcphee6095 thanksss!

[@Toast-u3r]

Hi it is a must right to take the bar or clp?

[@IvorXianZ]

to be qualified as a lawyer, yes, along with 9 months of pupilage thereafter.

[@IvorXianZ]

hey my another BPTC video for further explanation is up on my channel that u might wanna check it out :)

[@sammyh5320]

Congrats Ivor!!! Well done *cries*. Can you advise on how you managed to do the civil and Crim lit exams and what was your way of revising for them? xxx

[@IvorXianZ]

Thanks for your tears :') My way may not work for other people. For criminal, I study the Blackstone and our BPP criminal guide. For civil, I only relied on the civil guide and I bought a civil book for 20 pounds. I do notes for every chapter. But I failed civil HAHAHA So the best way is actually doing LOTS OF QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS and practice past year questions. That's the best way to get all those procedural rules into your head cuz it's impossible to swallow all those whitebook and blackstones shit. I changed my way of studying for second attempt for civil by just doing questions rather than studying I'll elaborate more on my next video! keep getting those questions lately!

[@IvorXianZ]

hey my another BPTC video for further explanation is up on my channel that u might wanna check it out :)

[@j5f5]

can i ask if you passed the BPTC and got called?

[@IvorXianZ]

yes and done pupillage in Malaysia. for more : For further Q&A about BPTC, I've made a recent video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWS8l6F8m6iFo68

[@elrynnaixora8086]

whyd u choose to do the uk bar rather than clp?

[@IvorXianZ]

Cuz BPTC is more practical and useful in real life practice. Even if I were not to pursue my career as a lawyer, I wouldn't feel wasted taking BPTC. It has taught me more than just law and legal practice. Especially the module Conferencing and Advocacy. CLP in malaysia is more theoretical but they'll get a better head start in legal practice compared to the BPTC graduates as they are more familiar with Malaysian legislation like Rules of Courts. so BPTC or CLP? BPTC, if u can afford. Let's put it like this: Hardwork = passed BPTC Hardwork + Luck = passed CLP I prefer getting assessed based on my hardwork than luck (due to the passing rate quota for CLP) However, it still depends on your work ethics and attitude when u start chambering. Personality plays a major role too like if u don't like advocacy or doing public speaking stuffs, CLP is a better option because BPTC would be a hell. hope this helps x

[@PS-tn8wy]

Just admit it la, BPTC is easier and for the wealthy. That’s why you chose it instead of CLP

[@IvorXianZ]

@@PS-tn8wy a salty troll appears

[@PS-tn8wy]

@@IvorXianZ why you still on this? maybe you shouldn't get so mad girl

[@IvorXianZ]

@@PS-tn8wy or maybe u should get a life

[@av251076]

@Ivor Xian Z .... You're so funny !!

[@IvorXianZ]

thanks man

[@av251076]

How is Lockdown? Anyway to chat to you ....?!

[@IvorXianZ]

@@av251076 it's been over a month now and 10 days left to be out hopefully

[@av251076]

Where you at ??

[@IvorXianZ]

@@av251076 im back in Malaysia. What about the external papers? The examination should be around this time....