Life Drawing | Line of Action

[@hachiprints-db1xz]

I believe what he was trying to say at 2:32 about not doing S curves in LOA is that one should avoid making S curves in the spinal cord. This is because the spinal cord naturally has a slight S shape. When I was starting out, I made the mistake of creating S curves in the spinal cord instead of a smooth, simple curve. I hope this helps someone who is just starting to know about LOA. Goodluck future artist🌟

[@smamazed0_0]

U mean *C shape?

[@denislicaj1927]

That fact that more people are not subscribed to the channel is mind boggling,this is one of the best and constructive line of action videos ive found

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Preach! Haha I appreciate the love and please share around if you know anyone else who would benefit from the video. We'll get those subscribers eventually!

[@iokhufu]

out of all the big art youtubers that i sought figure drawing tutorials, this video was the only one that has motivated me enough to try and finish my ugly and stiff sketches to somewhat passable. you have definitely helped me in my art journey, and i thank you a lot!

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Seriously thank you so much for this comment! I often worry my videos aren't flashy or quick enough to be entertaining but I've gotten a few comments like this where people appreciate a real explanation so it helps to hear! Glad I could help motivate a fellow artist!

[@oceconda1176]

I know this is old but what the hell i randomly decided to watch this video and for some reason decided to follow along even though i have never drawn a good human in my life. And WHAT DARK MAGIC IS THIS??? I actually made human looking things???? How did i even manage that?!?

[@renealbrechtsen9743]

What I really appreciate about this is that the video isn't sped up, so we can see what you are doing. Thanks so much. :)

[@joshpapaleo2602]

It's tough because shorter videos get more attention so I understand why other art KZbinrs speed up their process but I feel like it is more helpful for those actually seeking advice to see the real-time process. Thanks for watching!

[@Kafkathelesbian]

How does This Not have More Views? It helped me So Much!

[@joshpapaleo2602]

These are my favorite kind of comments! We'll get to the views eventually, glad to have you along for the ride :)

[@saintjon87]

The most helpful often get lost in the shuffle. Great video.

[@Fusterclucked00]

Because actually informative videos don't often fit the algorithm or generate views from casual passerby which really help inflate view counts and diversify who KZbin suggests the video to.

[@exodusslayer1272]

same😭👏🏼👍🏼

[@I_isBored]

Same- KZbin needs to fix the algorithm

[@Omegav3rse]

I'm a toy photographer that struggles with posing and this video has helped me out a lot. Thank u for what u do

[@joshpapaleo2602]

That's so cool to hear that my video is helping out with other forms of art as well! Thanks for watching!

[@teresaleong1887]

Thanks for explaining line of action -- I never really understood until you emphasized that it's describing where the weight of the pose is!

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Thanks for watching! I'm glad it helped

[@Newbii2071]

Thank you, I've been really struggling with the line of action until watching this video. Now my drawings look less flat! Thank you! 😀😀

[@Ermuggo]

this was actually very nice. I was not feeling that inspired with my daily session, and figured whatever I'll look at that vid youtube is suggesting. it turning into a session was not expected but it was great fun and helped me understand how to use the line of action and how it can help my gesture drawings.

[@joshpapaleo2602]

That's great to hear! Glad it helped

[@Javelinz23]

Thanks for explaining which specific curve to use Most of them just say “use the curve line action” when do I use these different variety of curve such as S curve and regular curve Which leg am I suppose ignore during the action line And they also left me questioning of the action line is only focusing on torso to leg then what about arms Then you stepped in and answered my question Thank you

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Before making videos I try watching some of the popular videos on the same category and think what questions aren't being answered so I appreciate you saying this! Thank you for the detailed comment :) If you find yourself having questions with any of my other videos let me know and I'll do my best to answer or make a new video about it.

[@we4r119]

Thank you so much for this. I have been going to monthly life drawing classes for a year now, and am constantly struggling to find the interest or dynamic in the majority of the model's poses. Very often they just stand. When I do see an exciting curve, I don’t know how to interpret it, to give my drawing movement and energy. This video has really helped. ❤

[@snowmon4243]

This video helps me to understand fully what line of action is used for and how to find it. This 27 minutes video is totally worth than other few-minutes-to-explain-LOA video.👍

[@joshpapaleo2602]

So glad this video helped you out! Thanks for watching 🙏

[@haruhoutarou480]

Thank you so much! I was very confused about the line of action until I saw your video

[@knight5496]

This is plenty useful information for beginner like me. I'm starting my drawing journey to become a good artist, and while I want to learn I also want to have fun which I know is essential to improve myself.

[@joshpapaleo2602]

110% that's why I have a complicated relationship with my art school experience because it almost made it not fun for me and made me feel like it was me against the world but I'm trying to bounce back from that and find the joy again. Keep on keeping on! ☺️

[@knight5496]

@@joshpapaleo2602 Thanks man. I'm learning from a lot of different sources and yours was informative. I just subscribed to hear more. 😃

[@JeanneBook]

I'm practicing gesture right now and I'm so confused with everything, this is a great guide. Thanks!

[@smamazed0_0]

If u can just told about the line of shoulders and hips like detailed explanation like this itll really gonna be cherry on top!

[@MrJayson204]

Probably one of the best videos about LoA & gesture drawing I've seen on youtube. I'm a bit shocked I'm not watching this on Proko or something lol

[@ezequielalves879]

Thank you very much, you help me a lot with this video ♥I recently purchased a drawing course and the class on gesture drawing quickly lay out lines of action. I spent a week practicing, but I didn't feel at all comfortable with what I was producing. Until I saw your video. Thank you very much. You are awesome!

[@joshpapaleo2602]

And I'm out here doing it for free?! Haha kidding, I'm glad this was able to clear things up from that lesson. Thanks for watching!

[@smamazed0_0]

Much informative then my 1 week constant line of action research ❤❤❤❤

[@Dan_Sniper]

what a good training this is ,y first line action i ever draw you made it so simple and clear to understand ty bro

[@joshpapaleo2602]

I appreciate the kind words and glad it helped! Thanks for watching.

[@youtubelife7257]

I subscribed u right away when video ended

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Thank you! Glad to have you as a subscriber.

[@Mr.Booeedy]

Good job, I'm also learning to

[@rollingdoro]

Bro, this was so helpful. Thank you so much.

[@Storm8704]

Flower is my new favorite fictional character.

[@jerrifreeman7034]

This is a great video. Very helpful exercises too.

[@dalbyonemanband]

What about action lines for sitting figures? That would be interesting

[@joshpapaleo2602]

@@dalbyonemanband I like the suggestion! Thank you

[@sugilitesketches6349]

This video was great! I struggle with dynamic poses and found this video super helpful❣ I'm looking forward to seeing more of your videos! 🤩✨

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Glad to have you along for the ride!

[@cm14k]

i was confused at college about this but i can draw most actions after practicing with you thanks

[@SylviaHowell-o3e]

Sooooooo helpful! Thank you. Really great.

[@nyhtfall1969]

this was really helpful and fun to take part in thx

[@joshpapaleo2602]

🙌 glad it was helpful and fun! That's my whole goal.

[@prashastisharma9229]

The best video on whole youtube about gesture drawings

[@zariahlafleurpowell7028]

Very interesting I'm looking at different things for teaching line for pre k-12 all at once I know little about art learning as teach.

[@Midgy21747]

I just loved this video. It was really good that you were drawing alongside for some guidance. It was very interesting to try to find those lines of action,...

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Glad you liked it! I think it is important to not only draw as demonstration but show reference and stuff too.

[@loonie_kid]

This video help me so much with my Concept Art work. Blast.

[@LucasSweden]

great tips

[@saeeidbzr1408]

Great, thank you!❤

[@LucasSweden]

Thanks

[@Sherif-the-Watcher]

Thank you soo much

[@irisiris82799]

Luv this! Help sooo much when I can see wt u r doin in real time w/ explanation!!! Luv to see more vids like this 🤩

[@mando18]

Man that awkward moment when my professor constantly tells me I can improve more while my drawings literally look like all these dude’s drawings for around same amount of time frames. 😂

[@josedelacruzcorreagamez967]

Very helpful. Thanks

[@gnuPirate]

Insanely great channel and tutorials. THANKS for sharing your insights. SUB.

[@anifavor9467]

You're the best!!!!!!

[@jayashreeshenoy1166]

Awesome. Please do make more of such videos. Thanks

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Like figure drawing tips?

[@fienpham]

Great. I love it. Hope that you will make more videos in the future. Thank you so much.

[@joshpapaleo2602]

More videos to come and plenty on the channel to watch while you wait! Thanks for checking the video out.

[@austinrichter1493]

Awesome, infromative thanks a ton for doing this video

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Thank you for watching!

[@austinrichter1493]

@@joshpapaleo2602 You're welcome I'm in Art 2 now and found this video very helpful to my current research.

[@sandrodelacruz9684]

Thank you this helped me a lot

[@scooperdooper3259]

This really helped me man! Thank you

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Thank you for watching!

[@diankardiana8451]

The best 😍

[@joshpapaleo2602]

🙏

[@GraggleSimpson]

Great job

[@Pumpkinn04]

8:37 timed drawings

[@hmm607]

THIS WAS SO HELPFULLLLL THANK YOUUUU FOR CREATING THIS !!

[@joshpapaleo2602]

THANK YOU FOR WATCHIIIIIIING !! 😁

[@soundrogue4472]

I mean for cats it would seem an S line works because with it's tail it's always going to create some form of S line or some kind of line that doesn't follow the rules; I assume the rules are meant more for humans while animals have their own rules. There are countless animals in the animal kingdom I could think of that if you tried to use the rules applied for lines when it comes to humans that said rules wouldn't work for animals such as an Octopus, for a creator like that in nature they'd be having multiple lines of action because of how the creature interacts with the given environment.

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Good point, but if I may offer somewhat of a counter, you might be thinking of the S line too literally. To use your example, yes an octopus has multiple limbs and moves around differently from how humans move (I mean they don't have bones so I'd hope they move differently!) the S line could still apply because there will still be a general path of direction that an octopus or any animal is moving, bending, twisting and that is the purpose of what to capture with an S line. Think of it on the macro level before micro. Even a human figure could have multiple S lines if you take into account the arms, each leg, the fingers bending, long hair, etc, etc. Much like an animator might build along a path that their character moves along before thinking of what the arms, head, legs, etc are doing, that's how you want to think of the S curve. Now all that being said "art rules" are meant to be broken and manipulated into whatever form you need them to be so whatever form of line of action or something similar works for you, use that! Thanks for watching and love the engaging comment!

[@RafaMad3D]

Very well explained !! Thanks so much !

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Glad you liked it

[@patszer8314]

This video helped me quite a bit!

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Glad I could help!

[@callaoalexise.4131]

I'm an aspiring artist and learning how to draw human. Can you do a series of how you draw an anatomy? I don't know how and where to start 😭

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Don't tell anyone but I do have an anatomy series in the works 🤫 Once I started I quickly realized it was going to take me a little longer to make than I wanted but I'm trying to make that happen for you guys and make it as detailed as possible.

[@callaoalexise.4131]

@@joshpapaleo2602 OH WOOOWWW THANK YOU! THAT WILL REALLY HELP US OUT! 😭♥️

[@Kwanghya]

this was super superrr helpful! Thank you so much

[@joshpapaleo2602]

I super superrr appreciate you watching! 😁

[@xiusmiles]

Thank you so much for the session!

[@joshpapaleo2602]

You're so welcome!

[@C13los]

Thank you so much for this!!!

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Thanks for watching

[@Scatterbrained_Watching]

This was really helpful! Thank you!

[@joshpapaleo2602]

You're so welcome!

[@JoJoboiWav]

6:15 If I got it right, the feet we start the line on is the one that doesn't support body's weight?

[@joshpapaleo2602]

The best answer for this is, it depends. Generally yes the leg/foot creating the movement/action will not be the weight baring leg but not always. I know that isn't a super clear answer but hope that makes sense!

[@maia4954]

Awesome!! Where do you get that kind of dynamic pose references?

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Anywhere you can find pictures such as Google images, Pinterest, or I've even found Deviantart to be a good source. Just search for something similar to "dynamic pose reference photography".

[@LucasSweden]

I really want my gestural drawings to improve, little by little I'm getting more dynamic and clean

[@MicahBuzanANIMATION]

Super helpful and well made vid.

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it

[@mrchristian8782]

thank you so much!

[@elsai1926]

Omggg this helped me so so much!!!!!! Tysmmm imma go subbb to youuu 😭🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@imadethisaccountoutofbored3798]

Thanks so much! This is a great video helps a lot

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Glad you found it helpful! Please share around :)

[@zainabanimation936]

Josh, your video is really wonderful. You cleared a lot of my confusions and you rock! Subscribed!

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Welcome aboard! Glad the video was able to hep you out.

[@phasmine_]

This is a very good video, thank you!

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@arielleanneaustria3976]

thank you very helpful!

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Thank you for watching! Glad it helped you out.

[@kabir6859]

Thank you

[@joshpapaleo2602]

You're welcome!

[@kabir6859]

@@joshpapaleo2602 When you get a chance can you please make a video on how to draw a superhero flying over buildings..is it one point perspective or bird's eye view ..confused??? Thanks

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Sure I'll keep this video idea in mind and hopefully get to it soon! Thank you for the suggestion.

[@MVMXI]

I love this vidio thanks bro

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Glad you liked it

[@mrchristian8782]

btw, how to know when to bend the curves of the legs, arms etc?

[@joshpapaleo2602]

I'm sorry I don't really understand the question can you rephrase it for me?

[@mrchristian8782]

@@joshpapaleo2602 For example, the contour lines of the legs and arms

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Not sure I fully understand still but I'll answer it two ways: If you are just drawing a gesture bend the limbs where ever you see fit as long as it makes for a more interesting and dynamic pose. When you layer details on top, depending on how realistic you are going, you can't really bend what doesn't bend but you can have it follow the bendy gesture the best you see fit. If you are asking about straights against curves to simplify the shape of the arm/leg this one fully depends on what position we see the limb in but best example would be the calf side of the lower leg is curved while the front is a straight line. That's a very simplified way to look at it and if you are going for more detail it's not exactly anatomically accurate. A good visual example for this would be Bruce Timm's art. I hope that helped.

[@mrchristian8782]

@@joshpapaleo2602 thank you, I understand it! I am having a kinda hard time in simplifying the legs/arms using straight and curves, but thank you for this, I will check bruce timm's art

[@jomarfelisilda9679]

holy f. you got my sub.

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Holy f. I appreciate you! haha. Thanks for watching.

[@Takolato]

1 day i feel pressured my head hurt,tomorrow be other day for learning

[@camochii]

My mum taught me about this once

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Your mom must know her stuff! Thanks for watching.

[@Sacayou]

THANK YOU SO MUCH i was thinking about a lot during this video and you answered it all :D))) this might sound weird but i have a hard time drawing a full body on paper i get lost and can't place it right and up have to cut the lags off lol any tips on how to place it right as well as how to connect the body with out it looking weird also can i use more than one line I'm so sorry if i ask too much :'))

[@joshpapaleo2602]

These are some great suggestions! I'm definitely going to add them to the list. Especially keeping the full figure on the page. I use to struggle with that a lot when I was younger! Can you do me a favor and explain what you mean by "can I use more than one line"? Is that in relation to drawing the body or is that specific to the line of action? Thanks for watching and I'm glad you found this helpful!

[@Sacayou]

@@joshpapaleo2602 I mean can I use more than one line of action sorry :) ?

[@naomibunny6153]

i understand how you did that but anyways what app did you draw the art in??

[@joshpapaleo2602]

I use Photoshop

[@naomibunny6153]

@@joshpapaleo2602 oh ok thank you

[@naomibunny6153]

@@joshpapaleo2602 anyways what brush is that? sorry if i am asking too many questions

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Feel free to ask away! I've been meaning to make a video about my photoshoo setup because you're not the first to ask lol. I use a brush called "Kyle's chunky ink brush" that I downloaded a long time ago. It came in a pack with some pencil-like brushes. I just looked it up and according to what I read the brushes come standard with Photoshop now? Google "Kyle Photoshop brush pack" and it should come up. I also have the opacity option selected which means my brush draws lighter to darker depending on my pressure. I like that because it feels more traditional to me while drawing and makes for a good painting base too.

[@lenengquist592]

I'm so confused of the line of action. I just want to make sure that my poses can be aligned with the spine.

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Can you explain a little more about what confuses you? Others might have the same issue and if so I can make a video to further explain it 😊

[@kannazi.8288]

16:55

[@ryanclemons1]

I need to stop watch drawing videos they make me want to get back to drawing but with my spatial awareness drawing is pointless.

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Sorry to hear that but I'll never complain about you enjoying my content 😊. If you can't draw along I hope it's at least entertaining!

[@asto364]

Why is it pointless tho isn’t it super useful?

[@ryanclemons1]

@@asto364 no not really sadly the part of my brain that handles spatial awareness is damaged leading to me being unable to draw much of anything.

[@asto364]

@@ryanclemons1 yea but I mean being able to move objects in your head 3D is op for artist am I right? And I’m sorry to hear but how do you damage that did you hurt your head hard?

[@g.gg.g4539]

Does the flour example have a name

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Like the character? His name is just Flour

[@g.gg.g4539]

@@joshpapaleo2602 😂 I meant the technique

[@joshpapaleo2602]

No love for Flour and his deep and rich history?! Haha so you are just referring to how I drew a line and then built Flour's pose on top of it, right? I don't know if that technique has a name (if it does, someone feel free to correct me) other than just building on a line of action. It's a good way to combat some artist block though for sure.

[@WhiteWhistleBondrewd]

My sketches are not as half as good as yours lmao Your "references art" looks like a final product to me, how you do It? Just practicing?

[@joshpapaleo2602]

A big part of it is practice for sure. I'll give you the best tip I know for improving which is to appreciate your failures. Easier said than done, trust me I know, but what I mean by this is your ability to acknowledge your drawings are not to your satisfaction actually speaks volumes to where your skills can go. To be frustrated or to think you are bad is only human but teach yourself to look at your drawings and instead of just saying "this is bad" and beating yourself up. Ask yourself "WHY is this bad?". Identify specifically what you don't like or what you could improve on and take that knowledge into your next drawing. Can't get the legs right? Google image some legs and fill up a couple sketchbook pages just practicing. Practice them as basic shapes, tubes, add some shade, keep some just as line work, etc. The pages of sketchbooks devoted to practice may not be the shiny and pretty images you see on Instagram but they are the building blocks that will get you where you want to be. Sorry for the long-winded answer but I hope it helps! Maybe I should make a video about this subject 🤔.

[@WhiteWhistleBondrewd]

@@joshpapaleo2602 Thanks! Your comment motivated me to study art again!

[@1karina]

2:36 no wonder I couldn’t understand LOA. I thought you were supposed to do the s curve all the time. I made it too complex ughhh no wonder

[@joshpapaleo2602]

It happens! This is why in some of my more technical videos I try to remind everyone that these "rules" are just guidelines and suggestions. Use them and break them as you see fit to get your ideal results. Don't let them hold you back or put you in a box of only being able to draw one way.

[@bozoclown2098]

Demo life drawing

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Like a real life drawing situation? I could possibly do that but it would involve getting a live model who is okay with being filmed and such plus it would be an extensive setup. 🤔 I like the idea but I'll have to look into it.

[@SynthLizard8]

I'm unsure how to draw along the outline of a leg rather then trying to draw a shape to define the volume.

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Sorry, I'm a little confused so I'm going to ask to clarify. You are having trouble letting go of drawing the leg as like cylinders and letting yourself be loose?

[@SynthLizard8]

@@joshpapaleo2602 Yea, like with the legs, drawing the outside lines only and not crossing the inside to form the thighs, knee joints or lower legs, just keeping a continuious flow from the hips/crotch down to the ankle rather then forming the shapes within the leg.

[@joshpapaleo2602]

So it sounds like you are really stuck on proportions and keeping things as tight as you can. This isn't a bad thing, it is really good to know proper structure and proportions. Where this can hold you back is when it comes to looseness and movement within a piece which will add an extra layer of interest to a piece. The best way I know to learn breaking the proportions mold is to do gesture drawing where you only have 30 seconds to 2 minutes to draw a pose. Being this limited on time will force you to throw away being so tight in order to get a figure on the page. Shameless self plug but this video of mine might help: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYjJi6Z-n7mgh6M I'd also suggest looking up artist that are really good at shape language. A favorite of mine is Philtomato: kzbin.info Hope this helps!

[@markmaynard6551]

Is the title ' Line of Action ' to impart there CANNOT be a second line of action in these drawings ?

[@joshpapaleo2602]

@@markmaynard6551 not at all. However in a quick gesture drawing scenario, where you'd normally use this tool, the less complicated you can make the process while still capturing the energy of the pose one line would be ideal. Also, art tools are just tools. I would never say you cannot do anything. If it helps you to have multiple, have multiple! I would love to see the process of what that looks like.

[@markmaynard6551]

@@joshpapaleo2602 Thanks for the quick reply... my art teacher has me doing line of action figures, and in the examples she gave me to review, I saw where a 2nd line of action might be appropriate.

[@joshpapaleo2602]

@@markmaynard6551 in a case like that I would say there is probably one dominant line of action which they are looking for. Secondary lines of actions don't usually describe the post/figure as a whole

[@berkhangut4751]

my dad came at 5:22 :|

[@joshpapaleo2602]

Lovely

[@zariahlafleurpowell7028]

Ha ha

[@Atomic-toons00]

You did not explain any thing u just show us sum weird pictures.

[@joshpapaleo2602]

The first 7 Minutes of this video is explanation and then the rest is applying the technique to a practical use such as in timed figure drawing where you traditionally would draw from a model in-person or in this case images. I can't expect these to be everyone's cup of tea so sorry you didn't find this video helpful.

[@Atomic-toons00]

@@joshpapaleo2602 i was joking with you man😗 your drawing is amazing im using your advices every day to creat sum animation

[@joshpapaleo2602]

@@Atomic-toons00 lol KZbin needs a sarcasm comment option. Glad you are finding them helpful. I like the videos you have posted so far too!

[@Atomic-toons00]

This is not eorking just learn how to model in blender

[@Daily_Digital_Drawing_D.D.D]

우와 내가 찾던 영상입니다.

[@joshpapaleo2602]

시청 해주셔서 감사합니다! Tried writing back using Google Translate to Korean. Hope it reads correctly!