Lifeboat Conversion Ep3: The first float test on the sea for Alan [4K]

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Alex Hibbert Originals

Alex Hibbert Originals

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@simontravelstheworld
@simontravelstheworld 3 жыл бұрын
I love the lack of adverts half way through so thank you 🙏
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I do plug books at the end. ;)
@daniellane753
@daniellane753 3 жыл бұрын
Ten4
@PachinoH
@PachinoH 3 жыл бұрын
About 5 years ago my grandfather (age 84) bought a lifeboat exactly like this one to renovate. He did get it emptied and God knows what before he passed away. I love seeing you renovate this one.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it's sat safely somewhere, ready for someone's time and attention!
@billmoran3219
@billmoran3219 3 жыл бұрын
Like your straight and to the point of your video, no BS is very refreshing. Thanks
@Amaury0971
@Amaury0971 3 жыл бұрын
Very true
@SparkPluggUwU
@SparkPluggUwU 3 жыл бұрын
I dont know how i found this, but im glad i did. Cant wait to see more of Allan.
@diehard2705
@diehard2705 3 жыл бұрын
Haha you’re going to start a trend of tiny houseboats with this series
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
I do think the trend is already well apace!
@creepybihon4451
@creepybihon4451 2 жыл бұрын
​@@AlexHibbertOriginals respect for you not claiming it.
@robertsulley
@robertsulley 3 жыл бұрын
This looks like a great project, really looking forward to future episodes!
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@SpectrumVans
@SpectrumVans 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexHibbertOriginals Great video. I've been starting to research this unique vessels. Looking forward to future episodes. Will you be adding auxiliary fuel tanks? Thanks
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
@@SpectrumVans Yes - check out Ep6 for details.
@d3w4yn3
@d3w4yn3 3 жыл бұрын
You had me at "decorating the inside of the boat"!!! GLORIOUS!!!
@WayneMickel
@WayneMickel 3 жыл бұрын
Once you get a stove, beds floor, deck on top, and all the amenities on board it should ride a little lower in the water I would put all of that in, I love this lifeboat.
@felixcat9318
@felixcat9318 3 жыл бұрын
You've made the best decision by buying this TELB, which makes for a superb base on which to modify, outfit and equip to meet your specific needs. By sharing your findings and experiences you add to the knowledge base of TELB owners, modifiers and liveaboards!
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
My thinking indeed, and I do hope to contribute.
@besearchingforwisdom6267
@besearchingforwisdom6267 3 жыл бұрын
I'm on board with the subscription and interest. Please don't add any music, you're doing great
@savage22bolt32
@savage22bolt32 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video, and a huge thanks for not ruining it with crappy background music while you're talking. I don't know why some people feel compelled to add annoying background music throughout the video.
@mariusofearth2474
@mariusofearth2474 3 жыл бұрын
I would add some shield in the front or sides for when going into the artic ice or smashing into solid objects
@daniellane753
@daniellane753 3 жыл бұрын
The only seagoing this thing should be doing is on golden pond
@bchrisl1491
@bchrisl1491 3 жыл бұрын
She does have some serious roll. Do you plan any ballast underneath, because it could become quite uncomfortable over a long period of time.
@SportSoulLife
@SportSoulLife 3 жыл бұрын
Friendly tip on how to get underweight lifeboats to manouver better: Have them slightly trimmed by the stern. Makes a huge difference, like shoes vs iceskates on ice.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated
@richvail7551
@richvail7551 3 жыл бұрын
Those design issues are a dream come true for my brain. I love building things in my mind and then putting them into practice for the results. I suppose problems are my friend.
@MrFlyingguy
@MrFlyingguy 3 жыл бұрын
"didnt want to end up in Alan upside down in the ocean" love it mate... quality little channel, a touch of theroux!
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@brandendebuhr2997
@brandendebuhr2997 3 жыл бұрын
To make it more stable in the water add a seakeeper gyro or perhaps build one?
@salvita64
@salvita64 3 жыл бұрын
Well done, I would like to built one of those for lodgement, you’re my hero!
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Steady on!
@guntotingnerd8830
@guntotingnerd8830 3 жыл бұрын
You could probably put a number of solar panels across the top to take some power load off of the engine, Maybe some retractable outriggers to counter some of the rocking at lighter loads. and would provide extra storage and area to move about.
@AlexRSmith1995
@AlexRSmith1995 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Project, glad to see somebody local! Hopefully one day I can see you from Southend!
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Next sea trial next month I suspect.
@davidjames1068
@davidjames1068 3 жыл бұрын
Can you add a mast for a sail (without damaging the structure)? A sail could really help to extend your range/add a backup if the engine fails. Also helps with radio antenna. For a keel, perhaps an external board? Probably very obvious ideas.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
I've looked at gyro-parawings, but cost is prohibitive. Sails - nope. It would mean a fundamental design rethink.
@Fun-hz8ep
@Fun-hz8ep 3 жыл бұрын
Get a RSJ aluminium and use it for a keel,bilge keels good as well stops the rolling I've had 6 life boats with and without keels.
@connorbaird699
@connorbaird699 3 жыл бұрын
Love these videos man. You’re witty as hell
@sinjinmtb1562
@sinjinmtb1562 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a Survival Craft Instructor based at Warsash Maritime School on the South Coast and have been recommended your videos by “The Algorithm”! One thing to consider regarding the ballast and stability is that these craft were designed to perform at optimum when fully laden with crew. In 2010, the calculated weight per occupant was changed from 75kg pp to 82.5kg pp, so dependant on the year she was built, you could calculate the expectant load of the occupants. We have found with our PELB and TEMPSCs that due to a restriction in capacity for training and removal of equipment from manufacture to convert to a training aid, weight needs to be distributed astern to get the best efficiency from the propeller. The flip side of this is that steering becomes lighter and less predictable due to the bow sitting higher in the water.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
This is really helpful, thank you. There's so much obvious focus on getting the trim right port and starboard, but I'll put a lot of effort into getting it right fore and aft.
@sinjinmtb1562
@sinjinmtb1562 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexHibbertOriginals You’re most welcome. It’s a interesting project and one I’ll be following closely. I’m guessing there’ll be plenty of supplies that can be stored around the boat to help find that correct trim. Reducing cavitation will dramatically improve speed, fuel efficiency and handling. The ducted propellor, should help with that a fair bit.
@vonrammstein8984
@vonrammstein8984 3 жыл бұрын
Top tip to paint it, first use a coat of bright yellow and then an orange coat. The best quality paint is de IJssel Double D coating, mosreal professionalt
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting tip, thanks
@SimonAmazingClarke
@SimonAmazingClarke 3 жыл бұрын
You could always add additional skegs underneith. These could be used as runners for any over land travel that might be required. Also otter boards.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Something oft-debated. We'll do another episode on the topic.
@timothyhoward5785
@timothyhoward5785 2 жыл бұрын
Would be great on the intercoastal water ways.
@Pete-eb4ec
@Pete-eb4ec 3 жыл бұрын
Stumbled upon your great project! Will you give her a keel so she won't drift? Even with a load she will be a wind catcher.
@reggaespiritdance
@reggaespiritdance 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers, Alan is a great name for that vessel!
@thehobbyist6386
@thehobbyist6386 3 жыл бұрын
Have you considered using a high performance anti fouling paint on the hull for better fuel economy? Large ocean going vessels can save a million dollars a year from one coating to another.
@psfphotography
@psfphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Have you thought about adding additional - not sure what you call them, additional strips of fiberglass below the waterline to promote tracking? I was wonder also about the deck area by the rear hatch, seems very narrow - have you thought about adding an extension to that area? Cheers !
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
I'm unsure about adding much below the waterline as it can be vulnerable to ice. A stern extension? Not for now, but on a 'maybe' list...
@sandrino5
@sandrino5 3 жыл бұрын
Asking from professional curiosity, did you contact local coast guard/VTS before going for sea trials? It seemed that you went quite far out to the sea. I know from experience, that any sight of orange rescue boat would get the crew of a vessel a bit anxious and report it to nearest station. More diligent crew even could start preparations for rescue situation.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sander - the sea trial was only a very short coastal circuit, and the marks designating Alan as an in-service lifeboat were covered/removed. Whilst it's conceivable Alan's appearance, even after major physical alterations, could cause some radio chatter, we would be able to allay any concerns as we monitor the correct radio channel.
@jaquigreenlees
@jaquigreenlees 3 жыл бұрын
bolt an I-beam along the wee keel already there, with the flanges on the lower edge serving as a base when on blocks. You gain much needed keel stability of holding a course, the extra weight there helps with ballasting / loading. Composite ridges on the bottom angled and extending to the outer edge of the hull are an effective stabilizer for the basic hull shape, without trying to add active fins, gyroscope or paravanes.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting - thanks
@jaquigreenlees
@jaquigreenlees 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexHibbertOriginals www.pacificboatbrokers.com/used-boats-for-sale/LS5377/trawler-groundfish-shrimp-boat.asp the pictures show the "ridge", although they are not very wide they are a stabilizer, wider gives more effect naturally but it is a balance.
@emiralamsyah9668
@emiralamsyah9668 3 жыл бұрын
Great Project. Howmany persons could be brought ? For Safety of Life at Sea. Good Luck ! 👍 ⚓️
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Officially it could take 68 people with all the seating it came with. I'm designing it for three to live on with relative comfort.
@emiralamsyah9668
@emiralamsyah9668 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexHibbertOriginals big idea 👍. I was a seaman in the past. Thank you Alex H.
@danielfeld8724
@danielfeld8724 3 жыл бұрын
With your center of gravity so high did you plan about designing some weighted keels or perhaps a pontoon.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Ballast yes - pontoon no!
@g7eit
@g7eit 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant
@SailingSVPipedream
@SailingSVPipedream 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, great video. Have you thought about getting a 2nd lifeboat and linking them together to form a catamaran? They would need to be about 5 metres apart to avoid hull wave interaction, so a deck structure out of scaffold or better still stainless 304L with expanded metal galvanised decking would give you a good working platform (I use galv decking on my boat and it has held up very well). Best of all build in some buoyancy to the deck structure and bolt it to the lifeboats and then you can fit a mast and lifting keel and should you capsize, you unbolt the lifeboats, let them self right themselves and then bolt the whole lot back together again. It will make for a stable, safe boat with tons of storage and deck space.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
That would require more than a 10min video!
@nicholaslapenna3592
@nicholaslapenna3592 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the electronics and batteries selection
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
It's quite a topic!
@The_Mimewar
@The_Mimewar 3 жыл бұрын
Very reassuring having an essentially wave proof boat.
@jayarmstrong3848
@jayarmstrong3848 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. With such a short ‘keel’ is it possible to intentionally beach it on a sandy beach and it stay upright? Keep up the adventure! Looking forward to the mission. Safe sailing
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Certainly possible, although you'd be lucky to sit perfectly upright. On ice, supports will be needed.
@daleval2182
@daleval2182 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I skipped all. Thanks for asking
@bladder1010
@bladder1010 3 жыл бұрын
This is an exciting venture! I'm not sea-farer, so I'm just ignorantly wondering if it would be possible to somehow arrange a tow to save on fuel? Like from a cargo ship heading in the same direction? Obviously, I have no idea if this kind of thing would even be practical or possible to arrange?
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
I suppose if you were able to have permission - but that would be doubtful. I'm also not sure of how the boat would behave if towed at more than its maximum hull speed.
@MJ-iy4fb
@MJ-iy4fb 3 жыл бұрын
put a large removable keel on it, maybe a folding upper deck as well- do you can sit topside with a little more room to spread out
@MikeWMiami
@MikeWMiami 3 жыл бұрын
Did you end up getting the Chinese one or the Norwegian life boat. It looks great! Like new!
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
The Norwegian - a Normar.
@the_retag
@the_retag 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexHibbertOriginals i wouldn't want a Chinese lifeboat either
@martinpaquet9958
@martinpaquet9958 3 жыл бұрын
I find this very cool and enjoyable to watch
@alan.macrae
@alan.macrae 3 жыл бұрын
Great choice of names. I missed as to whether this was the Chinese or Norwegian boat.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
The Norwegian Normar
@joewoodchuck3824
@joewoodchuck3824 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much it rolls when there are waves.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
A lot! Something to be tackled later on.
@evangatehouse5650
@evangatehouse5650 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm a naval architect who has actually studied how ship's lifeboats act in ice packs. Add "bilge keels" (or sometimes called "anti roll chocks") Just long fins at about 45 degrees to the bilge radius, about 12" sticking out x say 8' long. Could be fiberglass or alum. alloy or s.s. plate bolted to the hull. They can reduce roll by about 30-40% or so will little cost. If you're heading into real pack ice they will be torn off so make sure if they fail they don't damage the hull. Well pack ice will crush a lifeboat so avoid it too!
@evangatehouse5650
@evangatehouse5650 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexHibbertOriginals This research paper gives a good overview of issues with operating TEMPSC's in pack ice nrc-publications.canada.ca/eng/view/ft/?id=e1396097-84b5-4981-a127-b1707733f262 Basically they spent a lot of time whacking lifeboats into ice :)
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
@@evangatehouse5650 Thanks - yes had a good read of this and others in the lead up to the purchase.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
@@evangatehouse5650 Thoughts on this? seagrant.uaf.edu/bookstore/boatkeeper/bilge-keels.pdf
@mcallahan9060
@mcallahan9060 3 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts of reinforcing the bow to deal with the potential of encountering random sea ice?
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Many thoughts - no decisions just yet.
@themaxee08
@themaxee08 3 жыл бұрын
Also make sure as supplies are used it will stay balanced.
@johnnull8689
@johnnull8689 2 жыл бұрын
to keep from rolling....you can put on retractable side floats like you see on some canoes. One one each side pulled up until needed.
@tobymason8951
@tobymason8951 3 жыл бұрын
Have you not considered the idea of putting a bit blast in the boat for when your running slight on fule and supply's?
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Certainly have! Will detail later.
@Bob8091
@Bob8091 3 жыл бұрын
This is an interesting project. With cooking, heating, and even breathing, I imagine condensation will have to be something to overcome. The grey matter will certainly be taxed with this conversion.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the ventilation system is for a later video.
@Nevir202
@Nevir202 3 жыл бұрын
Why not use a lead ballast keel attached to the bottom where you removed all the old iron hardware? I realize, as you said that's dead weight, but making it lead and mounted on the bottom would give you the most stability for the minimum weight, while using points which were obviously engineered to take a lot more force than the keel would ever apply.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, most of that dead weight was higher up, mounted on the boat, and it was awkward in size and shape. The plan is to add denser, more manageable ballast right down low in the coming months.
@Nevir202
@Nevir202 3 жыл бұрын
Ya, sorry for the confusion, I didn't mean mount it in the same place, just using those mounting points. If they're strong enough to lift the whole boat without damage, a keel would be nothing. You'd of course have to build some kind of mounting brackets to wrap around under the ship to where you want the weight mounted.
@cap871
@cap871 3 жыл бұрын
There is a company that fabricates fold down "keels" that are mounted to the side of yachts to limit rolling and to give a smoother sail. Perhaps an idea like that might help.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
I've looked at some of these options - spinning anti-rollers are very expensive and power hungry. Passive ones are more possible, but there's robustness to consider.
@cap871
@cap871 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexHibbertOriginals brain not wuk gud there, sorry. proper name this time, Leeboard(s)
@rb1054
@rb1054 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for you video!
@Chefchen21
@Chefchen21 9 ай бұрын
a 10 HP SAAB with moving propeller is a good solution.less diesel and easy handling,because you use one direction for forward and backwards. verry good for manovering in small spaces arround.You move the propellerblades instead more or less gas.
@visionontv
@visionontv 3 жыл бұрын
Even fully loaded you will need the keel ballast - we did the 4 years crossing Europe to the Black Sea without it, with the boat loaded, and it made such a difference to add half a ton in Hamburg. Build space in now #boatingeurope :)
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Yes this footage was actually filmed some time ago (the footage was previously embargoed for other uses). I now have zones allocated for solid steel ballast, and will cover this in a much later video. Cheers!
@BoatingEurope
@BoatingEurope 3 жыл бұрын
We have added your channel to the featured channels on the bootm of kzbin.info going to go ask all the lifeboat channels.
@longie2484
@longie2484 3 жыл бұрын
Was it the Norwegian one you bought in the end?
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
yes the Normar
@felixcat9318
@felixcat9318 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexHibbertOriginals An excellent choice!
@unklekal7571
@unklekal7571 3 жыл бұрын
Your boat has a displacement hull, which means it's top speed is limited to six knots, based on its length at the waterline. At the hull's top speed, adding more power simply digs a deeper hole at the stern to climb out of. Exta power is useful for rough water and headwinds.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Once we have Alan up on the plane we can surely squeeze 20 or 30 knots out of those 48 horses.
@fredgervinm.p.3315
@fredgervinm.p.3315 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexHibbertOriginals at those speeds, you guys can water ski.
@jamarwiggins9703
@jamarwiggins9703 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see you get big brother!!! Don't forget me when you hit 100,000 Subscribers. This build will get alot of media views.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
I have to admit I'm pleasantly surprised at the acceleration in views!
@sparky791000
@sparky791000 3 жыл бұрын
Would adding a keel and or outriggers help?
@ronaldjosafat324
@ronaldjosafat324 3 жыл бұрын
How much old use life boat prices?
@joefrend8240
@joefrend8240 3 жыл бұрын
Re stabilizers. Look at bilge keels made from Fiberglass down each side. They Fill with water and stabilize boat and stops boat from sailing.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe - they are near the top of the list of options to optimise sea-handling.
@lawries6258
@lawries6258 3 жыл бұрын
Can these boats travel up canals or are they too big?
@timsytanker
@timsytanker 3 жыл бұрын
Stupid question time, I’m assuming fuel equals ballast (some), as you use up fuel will you take on water to replace ballast? I know little about boats, this just cropped up on my feed.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
It does. The most elevated fuel bladders/tanks will be consumed first, so CoG will improve and lower as time goes on. The fore/aft weight balancing between a laden and empty boat will be key to plan for.
@evangatehouse5650
@evangatehouse5650 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexHibbertOriginals The VCG really affects roll periods. As it gets lower, the boar becomes more stable but the roll period gets faster. You might want a period of about 6 seconds (test by running back and forth with the boats roll and get it rolling at its natural frequency and then time say 5 full roll cycles, dividing by 5 to determine roll period for 1 cycle). A faster roll period means more stable, but is not as comfortable. Slower than 6 seconds or so means it doesn't have a lot of stability...If you are carrying lots of fuel then adding back water ballast as fuel is consumed is probably required, but maybe not the full weight of the fuel.
@Dave5843-d9m
@Dave5843-d9m 3 жыл бұрын
How about a heavy steel keel to carry fuel and ballast the boat? You could even get clever and fit a lining so the space could be filled with water.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Steel is going to be the solution, but precise placement will need another sea trial.
@prometheusboat
@prometheusboat 2 жыл бұрын
@2:34 "we filled the gaps with 5200"? What is 5200?
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 2 жыл бұрын
3M 5200 adhesive. There's a 'products mentioned' section in most video descriptions.
@prometheusboat
@prometheusboat 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alan. I was watching your 8th episode and you mentioned it as "3M 5200" so I managed to find out what it was.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I'm Alex. The boat isn't answering questions just yet, but I'm training him up.
@prometheusboat
@prometheusboat 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexHibbertOriginals yeah right... boats can't type, birds are real, the moon landing actually happened.... Trying to avoid getting in trouble with youtube for disseminating conspiracy theories ;) I got you, "Alex".
@an_R_key
@an_R_key 3 жыл бұрын
have you reached out the designers and engineers that created the boat?
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
They routinely don't engage with users of decommissioned TELBs. No commercial incentive, and perhaps legal liability.
@an_R_key
@an_R_key 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexHibbertOriginals What a shame. Keep uploading. The Internet will hook you up ;-)
@nooknook3953
@nooknook3953 3 жыл бұрын
I worked on a trawler the rolled like a big B we installed some wings either side and she completely changed to a weapon we worked some extremely rough weather i remember working in 92knots .
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Can you link to what sort of wings/pontoon?
@nooknook3953
@nooknook3953 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexHibbertOriginals I'll try but I think they were especially made for our vessel they worked like keels we pulled them in when heading across the bar and they stayed in intill we headed out again
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
@@nooknook3953 Thanks - any photos? It's this retractibility that would be vital.
@nooknook3953
@nooknook3953 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexHibbertOriginals sorry none but I'll try draw it for you.
@ssoffshore5111
@ssoffshore5111 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize how small Alan was until seeing him on the water with a person onboard. It's amazing to think that tiny vessel could possibly be "rated" for 68 people!!! It looks like one would be hard pressed to get half that number in there!!!
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah 7.5m isn't tiny (some are 5.5m) but not a monster either. 68 people wouldn't have a good day in there.
@titojeem5598
@titojeem5598 3 жыл бұрын
im sorry if this is redundant, but how do you prevent Alan from rolling over or capsizing? He doesn't have a large wing under the keel.. thank you in advance
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
It's self righting due to the layout of weight and internal buoyancy foam.
@keakiwi1
@keakiwi1 3 жыл бұрын
Question: having done your sea trial and determined that Alan rocks and rolls a bit do you envisage adding ballast or maybe a small keel. I watched the haul out after the trial and it looks as though a keel may be possible but you wont want to over come the self righting feature. There may be a small lee way there to add something to negate the rock and roll.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
It's oft-discussed in these comments sections. Watch this space!
@jeremykamel9655
@jeremykamel9655 3 жыл бұрын
Is Alan going to be a boat you have long term? If so then you should consider some type of fresh water cooling system. Maybe a keel cooler pipe or the addition of a heat exchanger and expansion tank. Also consider installing zinks both externally and in the engine cooling system. These are things likely not heavily considered during building a lifeboat. As they are meant to live on deco of a ship and only rarely touch water. So they’re likely not built to last while sitting in salt water. If this is a one time expedition boat that will then retire to a UK canal then your fine.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Alan will spend most of his time ashore, but is slated for multiple longer excursions. The engine currently already has a keel water cooling system for the engine. Is that what you meant?
@jeremykamel9655
@jeremykamel9655 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexHibbertOriginals yes ok. I just didn’t see a heat exchanger and it’s integral expansion tank. Which are commonly (but not always) integrated into the exhaust manifold. But if you have keel cooling then that’s probably why I didn’t see it. As long as your engine has antifreeze in it rather then sea water then you’re going to be just fine. If that’s the case then disregard my comment on cooling. I was just wanting to make sure you are setting yourself up for safety and reliability. FYI once you get closer to knowing your final weight you’ll be able to have a prop shop adjust the pitch if you want a little more speed at lower RPM. They can cup the blades. Not as good as a new prop but it’s all a cost vs benefit thing. Definitely check you have zinks. I didn’t see them but that doesn’t mean they aren’t there. I’m really looking forward to watching this build progress. Cheers, Jeremy
@Photocatchthemoment
@Photocatchthemoment 3 жыл бұрын
Best luck - waiting for more :-)
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😀
@tonyc4776
@tonyc4776 3 жыл бұрын
I am the Captain!
@matthayward7889
@matthayward7889 3 жыл бұрын
Thames estuary: anywhere near Southend? (Edit: just googled Dauntless boatyard. Not that far from me!)
@khadijagwen
@khadijagwen 3 жыл бұрын
Will you add a Keel to reduce rolling? Having only one method of propulsion would make me quite nervous. Oars don't seem Practical. An Outboard?
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
The hull shape is best for safety amongst sea ice, but as you say it will not aid sea handling. I plan to test whether significant ballast is enough. And yes on the power front - a number of ideas for backup power. To be announced!
@ditzydoo4378
@ditzydoo4378 3 жыл бұрын
To lessen the roll and provide both stability and fuel/supply storage a pair of Aluminum outrigger pontoons made from a used pontoon boat..
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Unless easily retracted, they would be susceptible in icy waters. The fixings to brace them to the hull would mean very serious structural work.
@ditzydoo4378
@ditzydoo4378 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexHibbertOriginals hmmm, ~_~ Pontoons in mated pairs on each side for a total of four. these could be quick pin detached then floated behind the main hull. Have the attaching boom arms hinged so each set that can be raised. This would give you a Trimaran set-up for open water. But allow for narrow passage navigation in ice fields when needed.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
@@ditzydoo4378 Certainly worth some thought, thanks.
@ditzydoo4378
@ditzydoo4378 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexHibbertOriginals your welcome.. ^~^
@LimitlessLifeAfloat
@LimitlessLifeAfloat 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent viewing . Does anyone in your team have experience in building /modifying a project like this? Asking out of interest only as I’m amazed what people achieve with or without experience. Good luck to you all with the whole project.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
The original project team had a member with multiple ocean crossings under their belt. This is something I'll be looking to ensure continues before Alan goes somewhere serious. I'm very lucky also to have two marine engineers in my family, so there are plenty of calls and emails bouncing back and forth.
@LimitlessLifeAfloat
@LimitlessLifeAfloat 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexHibbertOriginals Thanks for your reply , the team and extensions of the team sound qualified to the max.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your interest in the project. You're right to note of course that I'm not a professional helmsman or sailor. I'm a polar specialist. So, it's a knowledge accrual process, for sure!
@El_Croc
@El_Croc 3 жыл бұрын
Been thinking of getting a lifeboat for ages though plan diagrams are hard to find. Are you aware of any sources online? What model is this one please? When you say partly insulated - roughly how thick is it on the sidewalls and tinnest part of the deckhead on this model? Looking forward to future instalments of the build process, thanks for sharing the experience!
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
I put some tech details in the video descriptions. It's a Normar 7.5m. There are precious few online resources, and companies don't tend to supply info to second-hand TELB owners as they don't really approve of them being sold off to the public. The foam thickness varies as it lies beneath the seating areas. In general, between 4 and 10 inches.
@El_Croc
@El_Croc 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexHibbertOriginals Thanks for the info! Cheeky additional question: Under the floor below the tanks how far down is the keel? It looks curved as if its almost down in the bilges though I'd imagine there's keel cooling under there somewhere?
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the 'floor' is curved under the racking area. Check out the end of Ep1 and you'll see. It'll just be 15mm of so of hull, and the keel section directly attached.There's no other voids or compartments directly on the bottom of the boat.
@El_Croc
@El_Croc 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexHibbertOriginals Thanks again. You've cleared up many questions I've had for ages.
@c.a.mcdivitt9722
@c.a.mcdivitt9722 3 жыл бұрын
This is very interesting!
@64SGH
@64SGH 7 ай бұрын
Im the captain now
@fredjones7307
@fredjones7307 2 жыл бұрын
Extra weight will not stop it rolling. Why it has that hull form I cannot imagine..
@patrickreilly7256
@patrickreilly7256 3 жыл бұрын
Should you not...could you install a lowering shoal draft keel?
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
A few people are suggesting this - you'd solve one problem and create another - susceptibility to sea ice crush.
@martinelewis54
@martinelewis54 3 жыл бұрын
hi i really like the videos how much did it cost to ship it from Scotland ?
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
It's hard to say as the price was inclusive. Perhaps £500-1000.
@threesetstofailure9941
@threesetstofailure9941 3 жыл бұрын
dude rolling is the one you dont want. Ballast is your friend
@mikamajlund3622
@mikamajlund3622 3 жыл бұрын
You culd make the film 10min long and I promise I vuld not get bored. Intresting project 👍👌
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@-----REDACTED----- 3 жыл бұрын
So how to ensure stability once supplies dwindle down towards the end of the expedition?
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Plenty of steel ballast too - it won't just be supplies. But I agree - a careful calculation to make.
@timothyhoward5785
@timothyhoward5785 2 жыл бұрын
Where is the best place to buy one?
@TheRavenlore
@TheRavenlore 3 жыл бұрын
Hello me and partner are looking to buy a boat, to convert into a home/explorer boat, so far the ex oil rig lifeboat seems the most suitable, how do they cope with currents strong winds and tides, it would be mostly kept on the kennet and avon canal at first but eventually after training, we would like to travel to scotland land, norway, and eventually move to the river tamar, that would involve going out to sea vier the bristol channel and around the Cornish coast around lands end, my family who are experienced sailors are concerned the engine/lifeboat won't be strong enough to cope with the strong currents, However my thinking is if they can be used as artic explorer boats they should be safe if converted property for that, I'd appreciate any advice Many thanks Bran lore
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
TELBs have a whole range of engine types and sizes - some are underpowered and are really just to keep the boat under some semblance of control whilst awaiting rescue, and others would perform similarly or better than the sterndrive of a yacht. I'll be testing Alan's 48hp engine against currents off the east coast later this spring, to answer the question more exactly.
@tfogelson3139
@tfogelson3139 3 жыл бұрын
Having probably a dozen hours going back and forth to a cruise ship I have encountered 30 degree rolls in a boat with about 60 other people. Several who were instantly sick. I am betting that stability and its cure are going to be your number one problem.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
You're not wrong. Sickness patches at the ready on the first proper sea trials whilst countermeasures are planned.
@glennedwards1449
@glennedwards1449 3 жыл бұрын
So are you going to add a mast and boom perhaps Junk rigged. It does not have to be efficient but you are talking about traveling thousands of miles in the Artic with no backup propulsion. Though of course if you did add sail power you would require less fuel but more ballast. P.S. The Caribbean is much warmer than the artic
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Investigating kites to aid power, but likely not. Alan isn't a sailboat!
@q.e.d.9112
@q.e.d.9112 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexHibbertOriginals I was going to suggest kites. Suggest you contact Sam Light (KZbin). He’s an expert and a real good guy. With the attachment point low down there’s very little heeling moment so ballast won’t be a problem. Could, potentially be a brilliant range extender/fuel saver. Thought of something like this when these things first became available, but at 77 it’s too late for me now. Besides which I already had a nice little yacht. Good luck. I will be following with interest. Arohanui From Aotearoa/NZ.
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
@@q.e.d.9112 Thanks!
@MrPear40
@MrPear40 3 жыл бұрын
Every person you meet you could say: "we've been at sea for months!"
@daniellane753
@daniellane753 3 жыл бұрын
Ain't that the truth.
@philippayne6655
@philippayne6655 3 жыл бұрын
Is there no way of adding a little more keel to stop the roll?
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Sea ice doesn't like normal keels - it crushes them. Stability is a big topic for later on.
@philippayne6655
@philippayne6655 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexHibbertOriginals wow, there's so much to consider. It's so much easier for us armchair explorers 😁
@eddieanna3004
@eddieanna3004 3 жыл бұрын
Hi nice cédions can you tell me where I could buy one I’m looking at going from Vancouver Canada to the Philippines thanks and if you have any data on fuel mileage on any trip you have done would be nice if you can share thanks
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Tough question in Canada I'm afraid. They are usually sold near breaking yards or oil industry areas. Plenty in SE Asia.
@chapter4travels
@chapter4travels 3 жыл бұрын
How hard would it be to add a ballasted keel extension to the tiny one on the boat?
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
It's a definite option. A number of options being mulled over. The hull must be ice safe, so that's a factor.
@jsEMCsquared
@jsEMCsquared 3 жыл бұрын
methinks the same
@Artoconnell
@Artoconnell 3 жыл бұрын
Would stabilizers help?
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking at a whole range of stability enhancers. Will be covered in detail.
@jehuhand8176
@jehuhand8176 3 жыл бұрын
Top speed is a function of waterline, unless you get on a plane. Hull speed in knots = 1.35 times the square root of the waterline in feet. Your length is nearly 25 feet and supposing waterline is 20 feet, your hull speed is almost exactly 6 knots
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Yep that's almost exactly what's borne out in practice on more recent trials.
@arubajoseph
@arubajoseph 3 жыл бұрын
What was the cost of the boat?
@RUferReel
@RUferReel 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to add a keel or would that be a hindrance on the expedition?
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
Substantial keels and sea ice don't mix.
@pinkfuzzybunnies2927
@pinkfuzzybunnies2927 3 жыл бұрын
How much did pne of these cost ?
@FANGSTALKERNINJAMASTER99
@FANGSTALKERNINJAMASTER99 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but I really want one of these lol
@AflacMan13
@AflacMan13 3 жыл бұрын
You could also make the engine a hybrid system. Put some electric motors strapped to the outside with some big batteries and solar panels to help keep them charged, and the engine and solar panels can keep the batteries able to run, while reducing fuel consumtion. :-)
@AlexHibbertOriginals
@AlexHibbertOriginals 3 жыл бұрын
The solar panels would need to be around 10x the size of the boat.
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