Words Exchanged in an Ambulance Between Two Wounded Soldiers, Union and Confederate

After a rebel bullet struck Tom Osgood of the 12th New Hampshire Infantry near Drewry’s Bluff along the James River in Virginia on May 14, 1864, he received basic treatment. Then, medical personnel lifted him into an ambulance for further care. He made the ride with a wounded Confederate. They talked. Here's what they said to each other.
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[@alexbowman7582]

A British army medic serving in a Falklands war field hospital was later awarded a medal by Argentina for his work in treating the wounded of both sides.

[@johnnynbk]

That's like delivering pizza for a competing restaurant.

[@alexbowman7582]

@@johnnynbk if one restaurant is facing many orders and the other restaurant is quiet then why not?

[@johnnynbk]

@@alexbowman7582 Because its only furthering the demise of your terrible pizzeria.

[@AllenChandler-jx2uf]

I’m not sure the word should (regarding a possible civil war) is appropriate. More probably would be the word likely.

[@irishamerican4558]

There are many stories from the American Civil War. In the pages of my own history is a story of one of my great aunts. She had only a small sack of potatoes (just like the Ireland potato famine) when one of her young sons came running into the house; exclaiming the Yankee soldiers are coming. My great aunt knew they were going to take any & all provisions. She took her youngest daughter (about 2 years old) & put her on the bed. She put the sack of potatoes under the bed. She took a bowl of water & a rag therewith dabbed the child as the soldiers ransacked the home looking for sustenance. The last yankee soldier to leave turned to my great aunt & said, I hope your child gets better.

[@Fred-mp1vf]

She was very wise. Thanks for sharing that with us! My great grandmother & her family spent their first winter in Spanish Fork, Utah with only potatoes to eat; one of the many sacrifices they gladly made in order to be with the Latter-day Saints.

[@stevelauda5435]

My dad fought in WW2 Polish army. Years later in Canada 🇨🇦 he had 2 best friends. One was from the Soviet army and the other, German Luftwaff.

[@international360]

Very cool...I just came from warsaw to visit my 2 great uncles Graves, they died in the battle for warsaw in 1944..

[@TheDesertwalker]

Where did he fight? My uncle, a Polish American, flew P40s and A20s in New Guinea. I don't think he or I would be as forgiving as your father.

[@uncletiggermclaren7592]

My sister-in-law's grandfathers were ex-navy men. Poppa Mercer was a Radio Engineer officer on the RN flagship which was a battleship, and Diddi Vela was an officer of artillery who was sent to serve aboard the Austo-Hungarian flagship, which was also a battleship. There was a 30 hour period where the two fleets, looking for a fight, sailed just over the horizon from each other and never saw a sign of each other. So they never got to fight. Then years later, Diddi's daughter married Poppa's son, and the two old guys met at the wedding and realised they had once been hell-bent on blowing each other up.

[@Kenneth-c4j]

Amazing!!

[@stevelauda5435]

@TheDesertwalker a much different theater of WW2 and I cannot say anything about what your uncle went through, but I do respect what he went through.

[@fokkerd3red618]

It's amazing he lived to be 82, especially with that leg wound. He must have had one healthy immune system, considering there weren't any antibiotics back then. But then he probably had some home remedies he used. All I can say is, he was one tough dude to have survived all the wounds he received during the Civil War. Thanks for sharing this history with us.

[@brianniegemann4788]

A touching story and I'm sure not the only time it happened. The Civil War was fought brother against brother, sometimes literally. Many soldiers on both sides must have had cause for heartache and regret.

[@JamesWilliams-dj2bp]

What a shame that radical wings of governments are the ones causing the chaos but too cowardly to be in the combat. Instead, it is the common ones that are either forced, or fooled, into aggression against one another needlessly. Had those two soldiers met under different conditions, maybe they could have worked together as carpenters.

[@Spooky1862]

@JamesWilliams I couldn’t agree more. That war, like most wars, was completely unnecessary.

[@paullevins5448]

That’s called “war pigs”.

[@canadiangemstones7636]

If only the common man had thought about who they voted for.

[@zsoltbakos685]

what a great story, real history is always better than fiction

[@jlpjlp1953]

My father was shot by a Japanese soldier in the knuckle, and even after many years, slivers of bone occasionally came out. He didn't realize he had been shot until someone noticed the blood.

[@debbiegipson4512]

" Kindness is a word that means so much it comes from the heart with a healing touch." Ron, your story brought to mind this simple truth written many years ago by my little eight yearold daughter, Meagan. It was her touching reponse to our treatment of a tiny injured hummingbird we found. You wrote of a simple yet profound kindness toward a wounded young man...thank you , once again for your stories.

[@wicken8895]

Nice. We could all use a little more kindness.

[@Fred-mp1vf]

That's priceless! Thanks for sharing that with us! ❤

[@sheepdog1102]

I’m from the south and it would have been hard to go against my country and even harder to go against my family. What a predicament either way you would be on the wrong side. I’m glad that I didn’t have to make that decision.

[@marksaucier]

Well get ready my friend, it won't be hard as you think.

[@treybie1]

Y: 'Why are you fighting us?!' C: 'Because you're here!'

[@yeildo1492]

And why were the Northeners there? Because the rich Southerners were fighting for the right to own human beings. Very difficult to rally men to the cause of "Keep us rich!" So the rich drummed up a bunch of horse shit about "States' Rights" and we ended up in a civil war. And we are still seeing this shit today with a bunch of people following a few rich people who care nothing about them.

[@neatchipops3428]

Liberate England from the U.K.

[@keithwhittington1322]

That is as human as it gets.

[@lifeonthecivilwarresearchtrail]

Thanks, Keith. I will be quoting you.

[@mrjuvy49]

In my side, I had my uncle's ship (not marked as a hospital ship) torpedoed by US Navy, another uncle was a POW in Japan for years, and his younger brother married a Japanese national in the mid 1950's. no one hates war like the soldier.

[@elizabethmartin4328]

Hold tight to The Lord, really Tight, & we Humans will give up our Vices & don't start Wars. I believe wars & Vices come satan & all the evil spirits that prowl thru the World to ruin our Souls. Let all of us practice Virtues, to save our Souls for Eternal Life on Heaven. (Don't you DARE censure me.)

[@elizabethmartin4328]

"in Heaven"

[@mtman2]

It's why they call it "DUTY"

[@davidendyke8562]

My uncles ship was also torpedoes. He survived the Bataan Death March and was in prisoner of camp #1.

[@dansemacabre6515]

Stories such as these always amaze me. Despite years of warfare, the combatants often maintained their basic humanity. I doubt this would be the case if another civil war should come

[@eagletalons5333]

And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

[@HenryHahnsRifle]

There is no love in the south by people who where born there for anyone not born there. As a born Marylander living in western NC, I was called yankee everyday by practically everyone. It's a beautiful country, but the people.... not so much. 150 years is a long time to hold a grudge against people that did nothing to them.

[@charlesbelser7249]

​@@HenryHahnsRifle,friend if you had relatives who were murdered, turned into invalids ,raped , stolen from , having their houses and farms burned and destroyed by marauders and trespassers who has absolutely no business being there who were doing these things unconstitutionally at the demand of a tyrant usurper.

[@charlesbelser7249]

​@@HenryHahnsRiflebecause Yankees seem to have an overwhelming desire most usually to change things to be like where they come from instead of trying to assimilate . I have personally witnessed this in Alabama , Florida and Tennessee . The reason that Florida's property taxes are so high making it impossible to own a nice place is because Yankees seem to want big government and all the oppressive overburdening policies and taxes that come with it .They always try to become county commissioners and to be elected to city councils where they emulate the governmental systems from when they came . They have obviously utterly destroyed south Florida . They advocate and acquiesce to higher and higher taxes to support their Demoncrat initiatives rationalizing that the taxation there is still substantially less than in New York and Connecticut etc. I was talking to a man and wife from Minnesota several months ago and when I asked him how they were going to deal with and remove that leftist legislator Omar ,they inferred that she was ok with them saying " we are a diverse people" etc. I had to leave before my blood pressure exploded to a dangerous level . I will not even go into what the northern murderers did unconstitutionally to our people primarily for the signing bonus, new cloths , two meals a day , reputation , adventure and a few dollars a month . It is definitely infuriating if you think about it .

[@HenryHahnsRifle]

@@charlesbelser7249 Ok friend, what does that have to do with me? Did I do any of that? No, I did not. How long will you hold this grudge when no harm has come to you? Half of my family came from somewhere down south and had thick accents. Am I only half accountable for something I had nothing to do with? Holding useless grudges has a way of eating at your soul. Maybe we can leave the past in the past and finally reunite so we can try to fight our common enemy and preserve what little bit of the constitution that hasn't been burned yet.... By all means study our history, I can get enough, but can't we move on?

[@johnhood9567]

A moving testimony. God bless those two men, may they be in salvation.

[@Ps119]

A war where weapons were so advanced that they could inflict widespread carnage but medical procedures were so primitive that amputations and other surgery were performed without anesthetic. Like many others, the young soldier would have died a shockingly painful death. Wars are terrible so must be avoided by being very ready to fight one.

[@unknownrider3071]

Lack of anesthetic is one of the enduring myths of the Civil War. The American Battlefield Trust has a video on that subject; I'll see if I can find it.

[@curtgomes]

Tom Osgood, an American for all Americans. That rare breed of man we all come to love and respect. Thanks for this recollection Ron.

[@mmcleod8148]

Thank you for that great story. I wish everyone could hear it and take it to heart. Today, with so much political discontent we need to follow suit.

[@capecodder04]

That's why Trump needs to win.

[@kurtsherrick2066]

Richard Kirkland The Angels of Mayres Heights. When you study the days before a battle especially Fredericksburg you find some great American History. The Confederates had snow ball fights and they were almost like real battle. The Union Band even played Dixie. When they played Homesweet Home there were 200,000 men crying. They exchanged Letters and Newspapers. The South had the Tobacco and the North had the Coffee so those were traded. Some of tge Battles that lasted for days sometimes there was a Neutral Zone where they would meet at night. They asked about relatives on the other side and they ate with each other. The South helped bury the Union Dead at Cold Harbor. When they were together it was like they were friends. It is heartbreaking they had to go fight men you just had fun being around. A True War Of Brothers. Also a war that should have never happened.

[@TRKEWEENAW]

Got to see Fredericksburg at least the part by the sunken road and Marye's Heights Wish I could have had more time to spend touring that battlefield I could only imagine the carnage suffered there

[@georgiapines7906]

Thanks for sharing, Kurt. I can picture everything that you wrote in my mind's eye. Richard Kirkland was a distant cousin of ours. For those who may not be familiar with "The Angel of St. Mayre's Heights", Richard was later shot and died during the war. So many wonderful men were lost to this world during the war.

[@Spooky1862]

@georgiapines I’ve been to the spot on the Chickamauga battlefield where Richard Kirkland was killed 😢. He was only 20 years old when he died; a whole life never lived. What he did at Fredericksburg was a prime example of using bravery to do good.

[@kurtsherrick2066]

​@@Spooky1862I live in Tennessee. I been to Chickamauga and I have taken my son a couple of times. I live very close to Shiloh. I have also been to a few other Battle Fields. I had 3 Ancestors fight at Shiloh and many other Engagements. Two for the South and one from the North. I have my Federal Ancestors release from the Federal Army after the war. It mentions the Major Battles he was in. Yes we lost our best during that damn war. Kirkland was a example of humanity. I believe after 3 hour's of watching Kirkland and the others that came out when they knew they wouldn't be shot gave Burnside time to rethink a second day of battle. I often wonder how that second day would have gone at Fredericksburg.

[@kurtsherrick2066]

​@@georgiapines7906 There is a video by the History Channel on the Battle of Fredericksburg. It is about a hour long. It is great. And part of it may bring you to tears. I highly recommend you watch the Documentary. It mentions the things I put in my comment.

[@vmhutch]

Oh, my goodness. Imagine my shock when you said Hebron, New Hampshire. I was honored to represent Hebron, Holderness, Groton, and Plymouth, NH in the New Hampshire Legislature from 1982 through 1986. Today, as I write this, I am wintering in South Carolina. The desire to forge a lasting peace by men like the sergeant is the reason I can be here today. Cheers. Long live our union.

[@markross2124]

I have been a civil war re enactor for 25 years or so, between skirmishes and battles fraternization with the enemy was the norm. Trading Yankee coffee for Confederate tobacco as a continuing example.

[@warrenoleary2168]

White Christians have created the best civilization worldwide the last 600 years ; are the " Dodoo " birds " of the human race with their self destruction with their weapons of mass destruction against themselves . Wiping out any civilization is un-Godly, certainly un-Christian !

[@davidrosenau3136]

Long live our republic, My sentiments exactly. Elect professing Christian republicans.

[@warrenoleary2168]

Amen ! But it doesn't look so well for us; Marxism has replaced Christianity in both the secular & now religious institutions !@@davidrosenau3136

[@Spooky1862]

@vmhutch You mean “long live YOUR union.” My home state gets conquered in Mr. Lincoln’s War, then subjected to rule by a puppet government (all despite the Constitution) so that the descendants of the perpetrators can have a convenient place to spend the winter.

[@charlieross-BRM]

My mother was a British Army nurse with the rank of Lt. in WWII. She served in hospitals in London during the blitz; staff and patients frequently killed by bombs. European hospitals in theatre after the invasion of Normandy. Finished up nursing in India and transported back through Egypt. Three generations of her family have posed by the pyramids (me included.) To the point of this episode, she nursed allied and axis wounded. One that sticks with me always is a Brit soldier and a German soldier both were under her care. They'd shot each other, survived their wounds and wound up in the same hospital. She told me that as an example of what a pointless use of good men wars are.

[@noslack8907]

Politicians make the wars... they are fought by them who really have "no dog in the fight".

[@brucecampbell6946]

Glad he had a good time at point lookout where my Great Grandfather suffered horrible conditions. By the grace of God he survived.

[@rudydedogg6505]

I caught that, too. Thousands of Confederate prisoners died there due to disease, poor food in meager amounts and inadequate care of injuries. Point Lookout was a hellhole for the prisoners.

[@DougSmith-y4o]

What is History… perhaps,the primary sources give us the keenest insights. The human element. How people interact personally with each other. The hardships, fears and joys found in journals. The humanity shown between ‘enemies’ as in this story. Tom Osgood is a Man I would’ve been honored to have known.

[@joeeverett9775]

My great great grandfather who was captured at Gettysburg died of scurvy and starvation at Point Lookout and was buried there in a mass grave. Northern prison camps were bad as southern camps. My ggg was just a poor non slave holding farmer. Most so called historians fail to tell of northern atrocities.

[@JB-uj3qm]

My great uncle died as a result of freezing in that camp also. He died in Raleigh.

[@jimmyanderson2988]

It’s all about who writes the book !!!!

[@international360]

Your great grandfather???

[@joeeverett9775]

My great great grand father was Peter Seaford from Davie County, NC

[@supertrooper7403]

PL is rght down the road from where I live in Md.

[@traumajock]

It's no surprise, really. The war was over for both of them. Soldiers from both sides met and exchanged food and tobacco (without the blessing of their officers, no doubt.). The young man sweating when the older man wasn't tells me that he had lost quite a bit of blood. Sweating profusely like that is a sign of catecholamine release. His body was trying to compensate for low blood pressure. I'll bet he lost the leg.

[@balancedactguy]

Toms' brief exchange with that Confederate soldier just shows how very sad the US Civil War was. Fellow Americans pitted against one another. A Civill War has been defined by some as "A War in which a Country Attacks itself"! So sad!😢

[@treybie1]

A 'Civil War' is where two or more factions fight for control of the government. That's not what happened in America. One group wished to form their own country as their grandfathers and great-grandfathers had done. Their opponents insisted on maintaining control over them. The Confederates never had any desire to seize the government in Washington DC, nor to take over the north. Fact.

[@chrisazure1624]

Notice the reason was about the Union and not Slavery.

[@zathras11b53]

The alt-far-left will NEVER give up the lie that the CW was about 'muh slavery'.

[@shevandy55]

Glad both ended: slavery and the war.

[@chrisazure1624]

@@shevandy55 Notice the reason for the war was not what you were told.

[@poopfacemctavish7080]

@@chrisazure1624 So you’re some kind of racist?

[@joebombero1]

Of course it wasn't about slavery. Maryland and Delaware were both slave states that fought for the Union. Missouri likely would have been another, but Lincoln ordered the Federal garrison in St. Louis to arrest the Legislature before they could vote on the matter. All officers refused to do this illegal action, so Lincoln fired them all and ended up promoting a Captain, Nathanial Lyon, to General of the garrison as he agreed to do this. Needless to say, the entire Missouri Legislature fled and voted to secede in another location. Maryland outlawed slavery during the war, but Delaware never did. As they fought for the Union, they were exempt from the Emancipation Proclamation and legally kept their slaves long after the end of the Civil War.

[@richardschneller7674]

Wow… beautiful story and well told. Thanks!

[@soyyoroaldo]

Extraordinarily moving. Once again I am reminded that the American Civil War was profoundly and categorically unlike any other war in human history and that is a legacy that continues to shape not only America but the world. Thank you for your work creating this channel and happy July 4th!

[@lifeonthecivilwarresearchtrail]

Happy Fourth! Thanks for sharing your perspective.

[@jorgecruzseda7551]

Reading the comments, it saddens me to read that the wounds from the Civil War have not fully healed 😢

[@tfishing8320]

Disheartening. Such a wonderful gift you have given us. Your presentation is so profound and thoughtful. So disappointing, the immature, intellectually destitute reactions in so many of the comments.

[@KevinPierce-pu4bd]

I believe everything the south fought for except for slavery. Many in the south felt the same way and many in the north were not against slavery. By the way i was born in New York.

[@mwblackbelt]

If that Tom fellow were in charge of things, perhaps there would not have been a war.

[@pamgrant832]

I hope my GGF who was one of those Jackson men at Point Lookout in 1863 met a kind man such as this during his time there before being moved on to Pea Patch Island,

[@tommyhunter1817]

160 years later and the government the Confederate was concerned about has come true.

[@kurtsherrick2066]

Absolutely! For about 40 years before the war Northern Representatives voted for Protectionist Policies against the South. The South didn't have enough Representation to stop those Policies aimed to help Northern Industry at the cost of the South. Also the South fought a invader. The Volunteer Union became a Forced Union by Gunpoint much like the Soviet Union.

[@tommyhunter1817]

@@kurtsherrick2066 ever since I was a kid, I have found it interesting that the government formed by revolting against the establishment made not revolting against the establishment it’s first law.

[@kurtsherrick2066]

​@@tommyhunter1817 The First Amendment in the Confederate Constitution is identical to the U.S. Constitution which is the First Law of the Confederacy. Much of the Confederate Constitution upheld a 1833 Case that limits the powers of the Federal Government. The Case was Barron vs Baltimore. That was a Supreme Court Case. The 14th Amendment destroyed that Law. The Confederate Constitution forbidden any Protectionist Policies for a person, state or business. Those were the Policies by Northern Representatives and Washington City had Protectionist Policies against the South to aid Northern Manufacturers and using Southern Money to build Northern Infrastructure. Also the Confederate Constitution kept the Supremacy Clause Commerce Clause, the Necessary Clause and the Proper Clause. That is why the two Top Prosecutors in the North refused to take Jefferson Davis to Court. Davis rejected the Plea Deals and a Pardon. He wanted his day in Court because he said he had not broken one Law. Davis was one of the Top Constitutional Scholars in the country. If they took Davis to Court they knew they would lose and show Lincoln's Tarrif War Illegal which it was. They got out of it by the 14th Amendment. What the original intent of the South was to leave in peace. They had no desire to Revolt against their former country. They sent two Envoys to meet with Lincoln to pay for any Fort, Federal Land and way over their share of the National Debt. Lincoln refused to see them because he was intent of Preserving the Revenue. Can you explain where that first Law is Documented? It may be in the Confederate Constitution. It has been 40 years since I studied it. Besides the Slavery Part the Confederate Constitution was a much better Constitution than the U.S. most of it is actually pretty much the same.

[@lyriktehuti]

@@tommyhunter1817and you’re an adult now and still haven’t figured it out? Do you teach your children to disobey you? Students? Pets? Without order there is chaos. It’s on us to keep the balance.

[@Fuzzybeanerizer]

@@kurtsherrick2066 For most of my life I held the view that secession should have been legal. But more recently it came to my notice that the text of the Articles of Confederation mentions 6 times that the union is intended to be perpetual. And I also note that our present Constitution clearly states that "Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation." So, at least for those states who joined on under the Articles of Confederation, secession was not a legal option.

[@DaylonU]

May God bless the souls of the men both north and south that never really understood exactly what they were fighting for.

[@robertseggie2773]

A fascinating snippet of one man's personal history.

[@bbb462cid]

"See you in hell Billy Yank" "See you in hell Johnny Reb"

[@joejones4296]

The Confederates weren't "Trying to destroy" the Union. They simply wanted to get out and be left alone. A basic human right spelled out in the Declaration of Independence. The same human right the Founders excercised. I don't understand why this is so difficult to accept.

[@johncraig2623]

I don't know how you can skip over the all men are created equal part of the D of I. If you read about the debates and resolutions of cession, there was one consideration in the minds of the Southern leadership: being allowed to hold other humans as slaves.

[@keithgunvordahl]

This is Only a Test: 'youtube' wont accept my comments with words like founding fathers, imperial, federal, agents, paycheck, and unthinking. I started these words in lowercase to see if that helps.

[@jonathandollin8604]

Thank you for posting this, I clicked on it because of my interest in military history without realising that it would have an effect on me in a different area. as a Christian who desires to walk with Jesus and, as a result, walk more in love to all those around me, the story of Osgood has inspired me greatly. Thanks again!

[@dresqueda]

This tale is bittersweet in so many ways. Tom Osgood represents one of the best of that time period. His ostracism was tragic, as was the fate of poor Madison Brown. Thank you, as always, for the insight your research brings.

[@Wolfshield7]

That young boy didn't know what the hell he was fighting for anymore than most young soldiers. If I had been that boy (knowing what I know after nearly 60 years of study is that I would have explained what the Confederacy was fighting for and why. Like most veterans, I only knew what I was fighting for because they told us why we were fighting. Studying wars tells me our government engaged in propaganda to get us to kill as many as possible. Each nation's men were essentially slaughtering each other. They didn't want to win that war. As I'm sure most of you know, the first casualty of war is truth. No one reads the Confederacy's accounts of the War of Federal Government Aggression (Civil War). The Federal government forced to Confederacy to engage first because they wanted to be able to blame Jeff Davis for shooting first. They were given no choice. Sure, you can say, "All they needed to do was comply with federal government demands". This has happened in many years. Yanks and now, many descendants of Confederate troops have totally bought into DOE/DFE propaganda that the vast majority of Southerners were (and still are) evil, Charlie Manson types. Second of all, Most Southerners were literally dirt poor because of the industrial age. Those will really big money owned plantations. Those with deeper pockets owned the slave ships and the entire slave trade around the world including the Atlantic trade. In those days, a plantation owner has to deal with them to order a passel of slaves. The ✡️ owned the entire trade. Southern ✡️ and the very few Southern Whites that could afford them bought them from their previous owners. They had to pay for them before leaving the African continent and wherever else they got them. Many White slaves, too. Such as the poor Irish seeking a better life after their crops were ruined in Ireland. Buying slaves around the world and across the United States (especially North and South) was as common as buying imported cars from Japan today, only all countries had them. Even the poorest nations. They might not have been able to purchase slaves, but they weren't above enslaving others of their kind or killing any that refused, like the Bolsheviks starving and slaughtering Christian Cossacks in the Ukraine back in the 1930s. But yeah, Josef Stalin, Winston Churchill, Chang Kai-Shek and FDR formed an alliance at Yalta Conference to determine how Europe was to be divided after WWII. The four were already in cahoots years before. You cannot simply trust the DOE/DFE and expect truth. Do you really believe the US has been the ”good guy” in every war? How dumb do you have to be? Especially in light of the past few years. FDR had Marxist/Bolshevik/Zionist advisors. The corruption is deep and it goes back to the 1920s. Well, a little longer, but from the 1920s and after, it began snowballing exponentially. It's all readily available to peruse once you begin to question your education.

[@stanleyharmon1103]

A fellow truth seeker!

[@shaolinshoppe]

oy vey

[@kevinpritchard3592]

WOW, what a story and life. Thank you for the time and research it took to share it. Very touching

[@David-mo2rg]

I thought i was the only person who believed in universal salvation. I love history ,a great man.❤

[@sfwaddell]

Universalism isn't in the Bible though. John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." Not everyone is trusting in CHRIST!

[@marcaskew61]

What a fascinating and moving story!

[@hacc220able]

They do not make them like this any more

[@JB-uj3qm]

By what reasoning is leaving the Union destroying the Union?? The states were sovereign polities. They had the right to go their own way without interference.

[@telbon8869]

@JB-uj3qm Precisely! The south did the SAME thing the founding fathers did when they felt they could no longer tolerate the abuses of King George and the British government. It stands to reason if a state had the right to join the Union, if - for whatever reason- that Union no longer met the needs of that state, that state should have the right to disassociate itself from that Union. But Lincoln's and the north's response was to BRUTALLY FORCE those rebelling states back into a Union they no longer wanted to be a part of. That was the beginning of our federal totalitarianism, despite the fact that the founders wanted our states to have free choice. I have no doubt that , had George Washington been alive in 1861, he would have joined Robert E. Lee in siding with the Confederacy.

[@i.m.9918]

Absurd. The 'South' did not have such a right because the 'South' included Americans of African descent who's rights were invested not only in formal doctrine but in theological one. You cannot define your particular subset of a region 'as the region'...and then proceed to oppress them. There is no evidence that Americans of African descent wanted to join the South and 'go their own way'.Astonishing ignorance.

[@peterblum613]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@i.m.9918Precisely. The Confederacy was explicitly founded on principles that did not count black people as human beings. The be only way that the original comment makes sense is if the writer continues to ignore the humanity of black people.

[@Spooky1862]

@im Where in the original Constitution did it explicitly state that slavery precluded a right to secession? Slavery, abhorrent as it is to us today, at that time was a legal institution.

[@i.m.9918]

@@Spooky1862 Astonishing. The document starts with "We The People". 'The People' have not been included in the act of secession. In parts of the South, African-Americans ('The People') were the majority population. Additionally, various amendments have expanded the fact. In no portion of the Constitution are African-Americans precluded from human membership, or the term slavery referenced. By your definition, any number of other 'foul' acts that are not specifically referenced in the Constitution could be used a justification to compromise basic individualized agency as a citizen and therefore be used as a justification for secession. Indeed, the South could have, by your view, declared transgendered sexuality or toast-eating as a reason to compromise an individual's rights and subsequently declare it a reason for secession since its not 'specifically' referenced in the Constitution. 'No'... 'The People' are 'The People'...those people who can communicate with you, sympathize with you, laugh with you, voluntarily contribute labor as you do, age as you do, wear like vestments, and pay taxes (amongst numerous other quotidian acts of human association).

[@michaelthompson342]

Inspirational stuff!!! Well done. Regards from Australia.

[@carlylewoodard269]

The young Confederate would have said "Because you are on our land,and we haven't invited you.All we want is to be left alone.We are not trying to overthrow the US,we want our own country."

[@rafaelgelpi2718]

This is an amazing story, i’ts surprising that Osgood joined the army at what would be considered an advanced age. In 1850 to 1860 life expectancy for a white male was between 40 and 50 years of age

[@STho205]

You know the exact same conversation could have been had between an injured Royal American soldier and a New Hampshire militiaman or Continental in the Hudson Valley of 1777 ....speaking of the peace and prosperity of the government both their fathers fought for in the 1750s vs the chaos of this rebellion. Just sayin...if you want to see things from perspectives.

[@jonBrown-k4p]

thanks Ron, very touching to hear of these soldiers faith in The Almighty, and of their service to what they believed as right...

[@pierrenavaille4748]

The combatants often recognize that the rigors and deprivation of combat and service provide more commonality with the their supposed enemies than the political differences that brought them into opposition in the first place.

[@Fuzzybeanerizer]

My great-great grandfather Chauncey Barnett was severely wounded at the battle of Fair Oaks, or Seven Pines, in 1862. Coming from the Vermont/New Hampshire border area, he was just a teenager who had needed his father to sign his enlistment papers. He was shot clear through the chest and out the back, the bullet entering an inch or two below the left nipple. It is hard to imagine anyone surviving such a wound in those days, but somehow he pulled through. I presume it was during his various ambulance rides and hospital stays that he made friends with a Confederate soldier; somehow an enduring bond formed between them. After the war Chauncey moved west to Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and eventually Upper Michigan. He was married, had 4 step-kids and 2 of his own children... one of which was my great grandfather. But the cold winter air bothered his injured lung, so finally about 1890 he left his family and headed south to a warmer climate. He found that former Confederate friend of his, married the man's daughter (27 years younger than himself) and started a new family in Louisiana and Mississippi. I guess he figured he'd paid his dues with the step kids (whose father had died in the war) and his own children in the North were just reaching the age where they could support themselves, and the whole bunch could get along without him.

[@Jim17678]

Greetings from Scotland. Thanks for superb accounts of the War, Jim Sieyes

[@Dracsmolar]

There are many stories like this from the American civil war, such as the confederate soldier who took water to wounded federals on Maryes heights at Fredericksburg or the sentinels on either side trading goods with each other.

[@AnthonyJMendoza-f7i]

Really well done. Thanks.

[@KevinCave-rj8eq]

Ron this one of your best journals kind of hits close to home thank you all men are created equal ⚜️🍀🍀🍀 call Rachel your next story to tell you about my grandpa 👍

[@gerardhogan3]

Greetings from Australia. I youtube a fair bit on the Civil War including stories of US service man and woman from WW2, Vietnam etc. I enjoy the stories of the humble person who was just doing their job. It a similar story across the world including my country. I am glad we share similar values to the US but fair dinkum, this dumb woke rubbish must really be making God cranky

[@AsherSmith-h5t]

You need to cite your sources. Until then you have no argument.

[@2nostromo]

Great story worth a listen, thank you. I have a question thats dogged me for years. I have read many disturbing accounts of surgeries performed without the benefit of anesthesia. But of course opium had been known for centuries by then and I can say from personal experience that if no other professional care is available, Opium will most definitely take the sharp edge off serious pain. Why then didn't the army surgeons have access to adequate supplies? You may have already covered this so pardon me if that is the case.

[@lifeonthecivilwarresearchtrail]

Good question! My understanding is that supply chains for medicine were uneven because of the length of supply lines, mostly rural areas, and not enough health care folks to meet demand.

[@davescrimshaw7781]

Osgood's faith? Praytell, in whom - or what? John 14: 5 “Lord,” said Thomas, “we do not know where You are going, so how can we know the way?” 6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."

[@stubryant9145]

Fascinating. Unfortunately Universalists tend to not know scripture well and fail to understand the clarity of the NT epistle of Romans and several others. Universalism would seek to nullify most of the key tenets of the Scriptures, not the least of which would be grace and mercy since there would be no need under their apocryphal scenario.

[@richardw3470]

So the NH men still had the beliefs of their puritan ancestors, was it the puritans or pilgrims? English anyway, not my people, not my faith. Isn't that how RI got started? Here, a 'war' w/i a war. How did we ever win?

[@AmericanFaction]

thank you sir for this video 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@1htalp9]

I grew up going to St. Mary's Catholic Church in Fairfax Station, VA, where Clara Barton tended the wounded for a time. We used to find Minie balls in the fields and forest around our neighborhood.

[@rumpstatefiasco]

I am reminded of the wordless scene, “the last cigarette” from The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly…

[@kinnish5267]

wonderful history

[@mtman2]

"Universalism" IS a walk over the Cross, on the face & body of Christ as well His work, teachings of the New Covenant, both Old & New Testaments and the Lambs Book of LIFE...!

[@lenclayton3962]

Reference the British Naval surgeon decorated by the Argentinian government for his equal treatment of all casualties in the conflict, Commander Jolly. He also pointed out that an Argentinian pilot, recently shot down over San Carlos water, with injuries, elected to get off his bed to allow a wounded British sailor to be treated by Commander Jolly. Good soldiers all despite the conflict.

[@jameswithers2334]

Osgood is an example of a soldier, like the thousands of his comrades, plainly tough, intelligent, effective in combat, who attained his competence most probably without benefit of a psychotic DI screaming at him nose to nose like a demented harpy.

[@medical-wl9qc]

Bunker Hill hey, did he not know about Tories, the nation split then too.

[@IncogNito-gg6uh]

I just finished a book about Jesse James and how the civil war in Missouri shaped him. It was certainly a different war than the one in the east. (Jesse James, The Last Rebel of the Civil War by T.J. Stiles)

[@ol1923]

I would love to have heard more about Pvt Madison A. Brown, 25th SC Infantry, Company C. There are just as many Godly, Christian heroic stories from the "Confederate" side of the war. I have at least 60 Confederate grandfathers and uncles who served in the Confederacy....believing that they were protecting their homes and families from northern aggression. I have many relatives who died in that war just like Pvt Madison Brown. I live in the North, but my most of family here was able to pay for a substitute to take their places in the Union Army. The victors always write the history from THEIR point of view. Thank God for some of today's southern writers who are giving a more balanced view of the war.

[@LMyrski]

Tom had it wrong, the South never set out to destroy the Union government, just not be part of it. The same cannot be said for Thomas' Union towards the Confederacy. I've been to Bristol, NH many times. It is beautiful. Hebron is just across Newfound lake, New Hampshire's cleanest lake. I would not have left Bristol.

[@stevelauda5435]

What a great story!, i have subscribed 🎉

[@Kenneth-c4j]

Well,it's not like the Confederate and Union Soldiers had a personal beef.Why not be civil and courteous?

[@jamesdelaney4517]

With out people like you we be lost about the history of the civil war that tell the truth

[@joefin5900]

Listen to John Gorka's "Let Them In". Offered for all of those who fell, on all sides of conflicts. Get over your hatreds.

[@62forged]

Amazing story. I live in Penacook, NH. I'm also a member of the Unitarian Universalist church in Conord.

[@charlesrichardcozzens8281]

Sadly wars are fought for three reasons, money, land power or a combination thereof. 100% of federal funds came from tariffs and 75% of said tariffs came from the South. When in doubt follow the money.

[@robertanderson7923]

Universalism certainly isn't compatible with the teachings of Jesus who taught more often on eternal separation than he did on heaven. Why,? because he didn't want people to go the there

[@Eric-om9dw]

Tom's question to us all. An action of the real humanity someone other than us can offer. All can.

[@tomeverett2212]

They were both Christians. It gave them a commonality even though I think of the Civil war as a religious war.

[@feralbluee]

Sorry, but . . . He’s a carpenter following in the footsteps of Jesus? Never mind the hundreds of thousands of men who were carpenters before him. And the ones who were carpenters even before Jesus. No, only Jesus matters. Jeeminy !!! 🙄

[@johnnynbk]

Ron you need to ditch the trimmer and let your beard go old school. Its like you want to but cant pull the trigger no pun intended.

[@marksandor2830]

Yeah, fighting for one tyrannical government in DC, other than that I guess a good guy.

[@johnthompson9513]

Before you run off to fight each other remember who stirred you up enough to be that damned stupid and turn around and go get them. There's your true enemy... Gday

[@JohnDoe-ct6xx]

Neither man could possibly imagine what wold become of the nation.

[@tedpuckett8066]

My g.m. sed her g.f told how the two sides wud trade coffee n tobacco when not fighting EA other.

[@johnmanier9047]

What sad story

[@michaelfiaschetti2574]

Our country has really improved since ? 😮

[@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244]

Looks like neither old "Thoughtful Tom" nor this video creator ever thought about why so many grandsons of the Founders of the United States fought against the New Englanders. It was the same cause; taxation without representation and being treated as subservient states to a regime bent on fleecing them for eternity via tariffs. The productive Southern States were unfairly taxed by tariffs for decades before the CW. They almost seceded in 1828 on that issue and finally did in 1860 when the Morril Tariff was passed, supported by the Republicans and Lincoln. The Southern Boy wasn't old enough to understand much more besides the fact that everyone in his region was fighting against an invasion from the North. The Northern Industrialists and their Christian fanatic cohorts caused the war. Most if not all slaveholders were faced with the changing economics of slavery and many such as Park Custis, George Washington's grandson, had ordered the slaves at Arlington freed in his will. Before the CW broke out, Rober E. Lee was the executor of that will. The change from the social welfare system that antebellum slavery amounted to in the South to the sharecropping system that replaced it was inevitable, but the Christian fanatics wanted to see blood and retribution, and the Northern Industrialists wanted to control the freedman's labor. (See such books as - "Time on the Cross - the Economics of American Negro Slavery, "and"Lincoln's Marxists," by Benson and Kennedy, "The Yankee Problem - An America Dilemma," by Clyde N. Wilson) These deeper understandings and more are possible because the history has not been completely destroyed, but the victors have truly been increasingly controlling the narrative since 1865 and politicians love simplistic history.

[@jammer3618]

Pure nonsense

[@hubertwalters4300]

If you think alll of those Confederate soldiers, who never owned any slaves and never could have,then your thinking is pure nonsense. ​@@jammer3618

[@Artexerxes101]

Wow, this is a new one. Also just as wrong as the Lost Cause myth.

[@avenaoat]

1. The Morill tariff WAS IMPORT TARIFF TO PROTECT THE BABY AMERICAN INDUSTRY FROM THE CHEAP EUROPEAN INDUSTRIAL GOODS! The senetors of Southern states vetoed every tariff so the Morill IMPORT TARIFF was introduced when the 14 senators left the union with the original 7 Confederate states under the Buchanan government! (that was the Time to be Kansas new free statete joined because the Southern senators' veto was over!). The MAJORITY of the low IMPORT TARIFF was gathered in the Norther port cities (New York, Boston, Philadelphia and etc and not in the South) before 1861. The best example the Northern states withouth the 11 Confederate states could finance the Civil War Army and the EXTREM EXPENSIVE Navy and the important part of the financial background was the Morill tariff. I am very curiouse the Proconfederate sympatizers how can explain the Northern EXTREM EXPENSIVE NAVY was paid without any Southern tax and tariff? 2. The Confederacy introduced EXPORT TARIFF FOREXAMPLE FOR THE COTTON ! The North did not introduce export tariff! 3. The original 7 Confederate states from the 55% slave populated Mississippi to the 30.2% slave populated Texas wrote about in the eternal slavery system idea in their DEclaration of Seccession. The other 4 Confederate states from the 30.7% slave populated Virginia to the 24.8% slave populated Tenneessee joined to Confederacy because they felt solidarity to the original 7 Confederate states when Lincoln asked for 75 000 volounters (BTW Stephen Douglass (Lincoln's Northern Democtrat presidental election opponent) critized Lincon, because he (Stepehen Douglass) asked for 200 000 volounter soldiers!) Virginia and a lot of Eastern border states (as Maryland, Delaware) there were a lot of slave holders who freed their slaves as George Washington! Delaware had 1.4% slaves but 15 times more free exslave lived there and the Maryland exlslave population was comparable to the 12.7% slave population. The prounionist East Tenneessee was that area in the all USA where the first abolutionist newspaper was founded before New England and East Pennsylvania! East Tenneessee brave men helped the underground railroad before Civil War. I think is a historical problem to confuse the Cotton King economy 7 Deep South with the Pennsylvania neighbor Delaware and Maryland! The Deep South sent slavery trading ship to Africa bringing slaves from Africa in 1860, when 15 times more exslaves were in Delaware than the 1.4% slaves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 4. The 13th Amandnent of the USA was introduce only in January of 1865. The root cases were the next: 4.1. The CHANGE of THE CONSTITUTION required the agreement of 3/4 of the states so Republican leaders as Lincoln knew they could not abolish the slaves in the South only the 1860 Republican program wanted the future Western states as Kansas, Nebraska, Idaho, North Dakota, Montana, Colorado and etc should have been free of slavery system. They thought one after one states would follow each other as Delaware had 1.4% slaves so Delaware would abolish the salvery system about 1867, Missouri had 9.7 % slaves so Missouri would abolish the slavery in 1875, Maryland (+DC) had 12.7% slaves so Maryland would abolish the slavery system about 1880 and so on! Untill the Lincoln government and Congress thought some border states would have been reunited to the USA the 3/4 of The CHANGE of THE CONSTITUTION would not been! When the Confederacy did not answered the provisory Emancipation Proclamation (September of 1862), the Northern Government, the majority of the Northern states, the Congress could accepted the 11 Southern States were rebells against the USA so the 11 Southern states lost any veto possibilities for any CHANGE of THE CONSTITUTION. So after the election of 1864 the Congess introduced the 13th Amendment in January of 1865. The rebell states helped the Change of Constitution because they lost any right for veto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Funny and Interesting! 4.2. The 4 border states Kentucky, Missouri, Delaware and Maryland were slave system states. The new state West Virginia (4.7% slaves) wrote into its State Constitution the step by step slavery abolution in 1863. In Delaware 15 times more exslaves lived than the 1.4% slave, Missouri consisted of 4 parts The St. Louis region, the Ozark region and the IOWA border strip and these 3 parts had low % slave population. These 3 parts were prounionist majority areas. The 4th area with higher slave population the LITTLE DIXIE was massive prconfederate area. Maryland tobbaco plantation area had high % slave population with high % proconfederate whites. KENTUCKY WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT. Kentucky had 19.5% slave population. West Kentucky from Henderson county to Fulton county was proconfederacy supporter, East Kentucky similar to East Kentucky was low % slave populated are and prounionist majority territory. The most interesting Middle Kentucky which was a higher slave populated area. This area was almost the only territory where more than 15% slave populated counties were prounionists en masse. One and one counties were where the slave population was higher than 15% in the South and the county was prounionist in the South but the en massa prounionism was only in Kentucky!!!!!!!!!!! The Lincoln administration most important aim was to hold the most border states in the union and Kentucky was the very most important. The Lincoln administration thought of Kentucky untill battle of Antietam so Emancipapation proclamation was on the Confederate area and not for the Border states. The true abolution was total only in January of 1865! I am very very curious how the North could finance the very very EXPENSIVE NAVY and Army without the tax and tariff of the CONFEDERACY in the Civil War?

[@marydbaker]

Christians caused the civil war because they wanted to see blood and vengeance. Got it. ✅ 🙄

[@johngalt9737]

12:30 typical of osteomyelitis, chronic bone infection

[@TheDieselbutterfly]

Lots of " really nice" people deny their Creator.

[@DesertRat.45]

Read that headline once again and really think about the validity of it.