LAGTV Co-op Episode 01 - Starcraft 2 - LAGTV

[@RangerJackWalker]

You started on Casual difficulty so this one wasn't hard at all. You could just increase the difficulty up a couple of notches and see how things go. Click the button at the bottom that says 'Casual' in this video to change the difficulty.

[@SSJ3CyLink]

yeah atleast to normal, last year i went back into combat with drill guy and my macro was god awful like i feel like Adam had better macro than me in this video. not that im saying his is awful since we couldn't see his point of view, just that i had none at all really

[@Artanis667]

Agreed, it was the casual setting that made this mission so easy... I have a feeling mutation casual would be pretty much as easy

[@kuefferth1]

Oh yeah, casual is a joke. Even Brutal you can solo most of the missions. Check out the upgrades during leveling up

[@Knowbody42]

I mean, I get that Adam is not the greatest player, but casual is like arm wrestling a toddler.

[@Certifiedgooner]

Hard mode would be doable for them.

[@daverogersjams318]

Gotta turn it up from casual next time

[@sharlesdaviskendy2391]

Random advice: There is a LOT of information on your mini map.

[@c0wg0d]

- Play on at least Hard difficulty. I am a bronze 1v1 player and I can beat Hard with a random teammate 99% of the time. - I do not recommend Adam use Han & Horner. He should stick with Raynor, Kerrigan, or Artanis. They use a more traditional Starcraft playstyle. - Co-op doesn't really start until you hit level 15, but I doubt this series will go that long, which is unfortunate, but it is what it is. You don't really get super powerful until you gain more levels. - I do not recommend playing mutations. Just stick with the base co-op game, but with a higher difficulty. - Zeratul has very strong powers. Use them. Also collect artifacts to give you more powers in the top bar you can use. - Miner Evacuation and Scythe of Amon are the 2 hardest maps, in my opinion. I'd recommend not doing random, and just go down the list of all missions, depending on how many episodes you want in this series.

[@nekrataali]

I think Dead of Night is harder than Miner Evacuation because you have to defend more areas simultaneously, whereas Miner Evac you just have to protect one ship at a time. Having dedicated anti-air hit squads (like Vikings and Scourge) can wipe out enemy attacks while they're still piled together in transports. Other than that, yeah spot on. I haven't played ladder since Wings of Liberty and I can solo any mission on Brutal with any commander.

[@Flanktank2]

If you change from "casual", things will get much more difficult, especially when your hero is low level. Also the "2" on your hero is your level. The hardest difficulty assumes you are either very good or have a maxed level hero. Leveling up unlocks more units/upgrades and some units get powerups (more damage/speed/health/etc) when unlocking bonuses. Each hero has its own unique units/upgrades/abilities. If you click the tabs for "upgrades" and hover your mouse over things, it will explain more about what you unlock at each level. Also hovering over buildings in-game can explain more about how the hero plays. For example zeratul's stalkers and DT's are super buffed but cost more, with 100 supply max. You also get to control the hero unit and use abilities.😄

[@kevindaniel1337]

Harder difficulty, and once you get your feet under you with the heroes, then worry about mutations. Co-op is a ton of fun.

[@mixalns16]

This is giving me LAGCRAFT vibes Jeff going deep and Adam playing as Martha Stewart

[@XenonSlayer]

*Jeff screaming, fighting in the Nether* _meanwhile_ Adam: "how do you place stairs so it....why is it doing that?"

[@lordmortarius538]

The "Casual" button at the bottom is the difficulty selector. That's why this mission was so easy.

[@tohothewriter8002]

Void Launch is pretty chill and easy anyhow. Even on brutal it's chill.

[@FELCommentary]

The bois doing Co-op Starcraft 2?? This is giving LAGTV VS vibes, I'm so ready.

[@Certifiedgooner]

Raynor: Zeratul! Zeratul: Yes Raynor? Raynor: Hit me up with the old school noise! Zeratul: Woo-tchuooo!

[@nightmarebearer]

Each Hero can be leveled to 15 and the prestiged for bonuses. I'd say keep it on random mission and raise the difficulty to get the extra experience percents. Avoid brutal difficulty unless you're both ready for onslaughts.

[@daverogersjams318]

You guys were so cute figuring out the basic premises of coop for the first time. BTW Zeratul can level up within each mission by finding artifacts. One of his spells will give you a hint of where to look in the map.

[@Wallucks.]

also since no one mentioned it yet, your commanders are very weak at level 1, but you will unlock more skills, buffs and units

[@theq86]

Man I loved co-op, played so many hours of it. As people pointed out you were play 'Causal' difficulty, turn it up as you play, it can get very hectic at max level. The "2" is your level for that hero, earn experience to unlock new units and abilities. Each hero has a very different plays styles so investing time in a particular hero is worthwhile in the long run if you like how they handle. Sampling heroes wouldn't hurt to see what fits your playstyle, this could be especially beneficial for Adam. Mutations add bonus EXP I believe but I can't remember. Frankly I'd stick with vanilla for awhile until you get the hang of the missions, but one mutation a week can be pretty funny content since they're pretty unfair. I'd like to see you guys alternate recordings between you two. Maybe next week we see Adam's point of view. Either way have fun you guys.

[@MrSmbai]

Its so weird seeing ppl that have never played coop in 2025... its all "ooo shiny button! do you have this button?" Love it

[@Certifiedgooner]

Part of the StarCraft community is all about ladder matches. They rarely touch campaign or coop, and it shows.

[@nekrataali]

@@Certifiedgooner I like how Maximus has god-tier Stalker micro but doesn't expand as Zeratul and reach a fully saturated mineral line until something like 15 minutes in. So, so bad lmao

[@Certifiedgooner]

@@nekrataali He also has a lot to take in with the first co-op mission, as Zeratul of all commanders. If he was playing as Artanis, it would have felt more natural to play.

[@tyrellarson]

The higher the difficulty the more XP you will get, which means your commander gets levels faster which will unlock units, abilities and/or attributes. You can can easily do hard I would guess. Or a least one level up from Casual. Casual is basically for people who don't really know how to play starcraft for RTS' in general. Maybe have a read through your commanders descriptions before the next one. Each are quite unique and go off the standard starcraft gameplay model quite a bit. Jeff, Zeratul gets upgrades from finding invisible artifacts that you have to use an ability to. It will upgrade all your units as well as Zeratul himself, which also unlocks more cooldowns at the to of the screen (which will in turn need to be uplocked when you level up your commander from doing more and more missions. Awesome though guys. Been waiting for this for a long time. Keep em coming!

[@nekrataali]

Something too about commanders being different than their usual faction playstyle is they can have completely different hotkeys. Nova, for example, has hotkeys listed under "Covert Ops."

[@Dead_Videos]

Seeing you guys play coop was very fun! Reminds me of the old days of lagcraft, and when youd play other games. As others have said, you definitely should read through your hero abilities on the coop screen and realize that you played on the lowest possible difficulty. Just a tip i havent seen anyone else mention yet. Literally no heros in the game function like ladder. They are all different in some way. The closest would probably be raynor, kerrigan, and artanis, and they all get weirder the further down the line you go.

[@christophec6201]

Coop is so great because of all the commanders. No need to buy them. You can easily play normal difficulty without paying (you need to pay if you want to go above level 5 - and Raynor, Kerrigan and Artanis are entirely free). And of course, play normal (and not casual). After some games, you can even use Zeratul on hard difficulty because he is so strong.

[@Veetrill]

The "Void Launch" mission is... fine. Not the hardest one, and not the easiest one of all. Your steamroll was because of Casual difficulty and because Zeratul is just OP. I'd recommend setting mission difficulty to Hard, then go to Brutal as your commanders level up and unlock new perks (you can check your commanders' perks in the info section). As for the missions, for now you could pick any except for "Cradle of Death" (too much hassle) and "Scythe of Amon" (too tight timings). As for the mutations, I'd advice against them for now. Those are usually intended for commanders that reached lvl 15 and then have some more Mastery levels on top of that. Besides, some weekly Mutations are just pain in the arse, and quite often you just need a specific duo of commanders to be able to beat them. Last but not the least, the end goal is... getting more levels. Each commander can be levelled from lvl 1 to lvl 15 to unlock all units, upgrades and other useful features. Then there are prestiges, which allow to reset your commanders' levels in exchange for buffing some aspects at the cost of nerfing some others. Then there are 90 Mastery levels, which are common throughout all maxed out commanders, and can be used to boost some of their features. And then there are even more 91-1000 Mastery levels which give you nothing but cosmetic rewards - you could do these, but only if you love Co-op very much.

[@dankwarmouse6248]

Also a lot of those prestiges pretty dramatically change the way the commander works, which can be super fun and end up being way better than default. I love how creative blizz got with the race design in coop.

[@isturma]

I love how Adam is busy Macroing up, Jeff is Macroing AND balls deep in the Zerg base.

[@Veetrill]

Zeratul commander is that much OP, even without upgrades.

[@isturma]

@@Veetrill Oh I don't doubt it, it's just a funny observation.

[@Tentumon111]

Honestly I look forward to Adam getting better and the two of them trying these missions on harder diffs :D

[@Aleris21]

Mutations on Brutal. I want tears!!!

[@Premier2925]

Love this. Makes me want to go back to Co-op

[@nickmendal]

Don't know it adds anything but seeing Adam's POV would be nice to see.

[@pelyphin0]

Yeah, I would be cool with seeing Adam's version now and again. Don't know that splicing the two so you get some of each per mission is worthwhile, but a mission here or there, sure. Maybe alternating, after one or two more runs gets them used to it. If they had a "b-side" channel, patreon, whatever, that'd be a good place for the POV that isn't on LAGTV.

[@jvas4578]

30 mins eps for this whole series is going to be epic!!!!

[@J0RB0C]

There's some wacky units on the field there. GG

[@KaiserDragoon77]

They use a lot of units found in the campaign that never made it to the ladder

[@LukeI-m8c]

This would be amazing to watch if we can also see Adam's view like the old LAGTV2 days. I used to split screen both of your minecraft vids and play them at the same time. Plus, more views too! Or maybe just add Adam's view in a small window in the corner?

[@MrBellsa61]

2nd wave of shuttles had me SWEATING 😂

[@quixototalis]

Loving the start to this series and looking forward to more!

[@kalutzii_]

I would actually really like to also see Adam's perspective. Like post Jeff and Adam's POVs a la LAGCraft.

[@iconoclastsc2]

I'd love to see co-op content from you guys but please select a difficulty that's higher than casual 😄 I think you could handle brutal just fine. Also, you need to explore your hero unit's abilities to see what they do. Zeratul is supposed to look for artifacts on the map and he gains powers from them.

[@Veetrill]

Hard is fine at first, Brutal could be the way to go when they figure out how to actually play their commanders more efficiently 😅

[@ChrisRoxby]

I want to see the game from Adam's POV, too, lol. Could you imagine having to record and upload this twice?

[@toadofsteel]

I still remember the finale to Star Trek Picard. The Enterprise itself becomes a Levar Burtoncruiser, piloted by Brent Spiner.

[@paulmichaud4526]

Hey guys, great video. I played A LOT of coop and just as everybody mentioned in the comment, casual difficulty is extremly low. If you are good in MP, I would say that normal would be better suited for you. Since you do not know anything at all about the maps, hard might be a bit too high for going in blind. Also, Zeratul is one of the most OP commander in my opinion. Usually I can play Brutal easily with is 3rd level and he is a character that does not require any macro at all. Jim, Kerrigan and Artanis are more conventional commander and are really need their level 15 to become strong. Most commander are inspired by campaign upgrades, the first 6 commanders being the closest to this idea and the last ones (Zeratul, Mengsk and Stetmann) are just completely original. Has for mutations, idk if lower levels help, but they are very difficult and can sometimes require specifics commanders with specific prestiges (unlocked by Leveling up you commander). You can try next week on casual/normal, that might be still doable, I only play brutal with lvl 15 characters to be honest, so casul to hard are kind of a mystery to me with mutations, I just know that you can lose in two minutes with certain weekly missions. P.S. : The mission you had was one of the easiest along a couple of the first ones. The hardest are at the bottom of the list.

[@Bauvrin]

This would be super fun to watch Jeff carry Adam through brutal difficulty from Jeff's perspective. It goes harder than that but brutal is probably hard enough until you both get guys to 15. I guarantee Adam will get better at starcraft too. At least macro.

[@JJfreshOfficial]

Yes

[@PGooseGaming]

My body is ready. Not a fan of Co-Op but I'm excited to learn it with you guys!

[@extrams0]

for starter map: lock and load is pretty cool (capture & defend points on the map; and your home base is pretty safe) tip: keep more of an eye on your mini-map. It's an objective based game type ; clearing the map is cool, but "making it easier long term" is second to "not fumbling in the now". as for heros: the advanced hero's typically give atypical playing styles. * Tychus is hero units (he has no 'normal' combat units, only up to 5 heros) * swann (terran) & karax (protos) are awesome for support roles while building a (flying) ball of death * stukov's units are dirt cheap but die at a timer. He's great if you like to play "zombie overruns enemy"

[@danielbuege1]

I think casual was honestly a good start for you guys to figure out a bit how co-op works. You don't want to start too high and just get dunked on before you even know what happened. But yeah you guys could bump it up to like hard for the next co-op. I like this stuff it's nice to see you guys just kinda relax and play some fun game modes. I have a lot of fun with co-op anyway. Keep up the good work guys 👍

[@Hrolfgord]

I love co-op and I hope Adam and Jeff enjoy it, definitely turn up the difficulty for future missions

[@FugueStated]

This Co-Op looks super fun! Just like the LAG Bros, I've never played this mode. I've never even seen it. But I'm all in for this series! I hope they try out more of the Hero units.

[@TheOJDrinker]

That was cool, good way to see some content without having to play it.

[@Wallucks.]

I love the coop episode! Im hyped to see jeff and adam work up to brutal+ hehehe

[@Wallucks.]

just saying, if adam uploaded his pov, I would watch both at the same time!

[@kepsul2150]

Can't wait for more!

[@thebladeofchaos]

so I think you two won't see this for god knows how long, but some things that may give you a hand with co-op. no one has the same layout when it comes to what they can use, what they see, and what they get from level ups. whilst I don't mean to be a dick, reading what your hero has can help you out and get you some bonuses in missions. for instance, Zeratul is looking for ancient relics. you get a vision as to where they are from that button up top, bring Zeratul there, grab the thing, you get a bonus for it. may be worth watching the preview to give you an idea of what to do. Jimmy just plays as traditional Terran, though with call ins. I'm not saying do hours and hours of research, but at the same time, Co-op is surprisingly deeper then you'd think

[@LiquidNS]

IM GUNNA LVOE THIS SERIES

[@boreduser12]

The most anxious thing in this video was to see if they'd figure out that they're playing on casual difficulty and everything is so easy to kill. You can tell they weren't campaign players. But I think most really good layers don't have the patience for campaigns since it requires some patience instead of fast clicks. Hopefully they figure it out next time. But the game will last much longer if they choose brutal.

[@MrSmbai]

Alright so that 1 or 2 you see on your hero/faction select screen is what level you are with that hero. If you look at the upgrades tab on that same screen and hover over each one with your cursor, it will tell you what you have unlocked and what you will unlock at each level.

[@Vortsukoto]

Comments for the comment god, interactions for the interaction throne.

[@santa0704]

Oh snap here we go!

[@giffythegif]

As someone who has played Co-op for years, this is so fun yet so painful to watch

[@megahamx]

Oh hell YEAH! LETS GO!!

[@calvinkaplan7406]

that level 2 is your hero level, you unlock new units and bonuses for heroes as you level them up

[@EvilGas]

Playing co op while listening to this was great!

[@slothfulcobra]

I like how you walked into a couple swarmhosts that just went down like nothing

[@Fledermausmann]

Not going to lie, I think casual was fine for y'all considering that you had no idea what was going on at all. I admit that I had completely forgotten about this pve mode. It's really pretty fun iirc, the more you play the more you can rank up your heroes and get cool campaign only type broken units that are super fun to use. Hoping you do more of these!

[@ahmedmahmood9067]

Thanks for coming through with this series, been looking forward to it! It would be cool if you could switch between Jeff and Adam's POV when something interesting happens.

[@BTACE1347]

def need to raise difficulty, love this!

[@sharlesdaviskendy2391]

This was great. Would definitely love more of it. Although the comments are right, Casual is just too easy.

[@saengGang93]

21:32 : smiley face top right of map

[@savigy1301]

I recommend Hard for faster speed of game in general

[@furnicutz]

Let’s go!

[@PhillStone]

awww yeah!

[@minkavlerenyt]

that way Maximus says zeratul actually hurts my feelings a bit as a protoss player 🤣 "zeratol", lol 😝

[@pyrocity9378]

DO... THE....THING!!!!!!❤

[@SumAussieCobber]

could we get both perspectives please...

[@minhuang8848]

let's go co-op

[@Gashnaw]

I bought Stetman. Gary is by far the greatest character in all of StarCraft lore, hands down.

[@c0wg0d]

He gets the best oil.

[@postmodernjambox5951]

Y'all can handle hard. Adam knows how to play the game so normal or hard are fine. Brutal is in reach with micro

[@darthdestroy6009]

YES YES YES YES

[@BloodstainedAlice200]

I dont mind no mutation,just harder difficulty

[@__Stitchy]

Don't bother with mutations, just play random missions but put the casual difficulty on hard. I absolutely love you playing co-op.

[@ARGIMSOMAD]

This was awesome! Would love to see you two try a Brutal difficulty one.

[@bound05]

Ohhhh myyyy gooood.

[@LittleYuppa]

I enjoyed. Mutations sound fun.

[@pl3629]

good to see it 1st on casual. brutal is where its a real challenge. they do brutal + depending how nuts you are. but brutal is the best mode i find. there are more good maps/missions than bad, but there are a few crappy maps. this one and the train map are good. theres also a few maps similar to missions from the LOTV campaign. the lava missions is cool aswell. it gets better the more you level up with extra units and abilities. good luck in your missions. my fav hero is tychus. you can have an army of 5 units without having to build much

[@originalleetbeast]

mutations on!

[@Veetrill]

The current weekly mutation has Black Plague and Microtransactions. Have mercy 🥲

[@tsukishiro_mai]

This map is indeed one of the easier ones, the only trouble you might have on Brutal is that you might have to deal with hybrid reavers really early on, the attack waves are actually much more troublesome to deal with than the shuttle waves. Once you get going, it's normal to end up clearing the map and surrounding the shuttle spawns. I recommend Void Thrashing for a short, fast paced map, it's not the hardest map but it's quite common to lose on Brutal here if you don't know what you're doing, especially with low level heroes. I fully expect you guys to lose your first Brutal Void Thrashing challenge! Btw, there are a set variety of enemy compositions randomly chosen each map, so even the same map could be easier or harder depending on the innate comp strength or matchup against your units. Good luck and have fun! It'll be fun seeing you guys figure out how stuff works in coop.

[@Tourney65]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[@JC-rr5sw]

Any mission you play will give you points towards leveling up. Leveling up unlocks abilities and units. Don't play any higher than hard until you reach at least level 12, u will die.

[@C0nstellati0ns]

Fun!

[@seaweeded]

OMG this is finally happening.

[@phillipmontgomery]

Would love to see co-op against other people. You can play against lower-level people and Maximus can do a silly build to make it more challenging for him.

[@scarletspidernz]

0:37 Change Casual to Normal or Hard next time pls 24:17 The XP gain from doing missions especially difficult ones help unlock more units and call down abilities which you can see the upgrades tab 25:20 Play all the base maps once at least each so youknow what to do and such and thereafter you can switch to mutations to do maybe like a once a week game/cast mixed in with regular content, you can also upload both perspectives or one of you upload on your personal channel if you don't want to do the whole observer/editor thing kthx bye

[@moozhmos]

Please upload videos of both perspectives, like you guys did with Minecraft.

[@KaiserDragoon77]

As you gain experience you level up your hero and unlock new units/abilities, if I remember correctly.

[@darthdestroy6009]

Let us know what level of back seat help you want. This stuff is my bread and butter. That being said, I'm not that high level in either regard but love it.

[@ericremillard8335]

Turn up the difficulty. You get more exp. The level is the level of your character. If you look at the units and upgrades tab. You can unlock new stuff as you level

[@Knowbody42]

Basically, coop is not balanced. Every commander has their own broken mechanics. A lot of the time you need to unlock them by leveling the commanders up first though. But some commanders are just much more powerful at level 1 than others. Zeratul is powerful even at level 1. Some commanders are a struggle at lower levels until you unlock certain things.. When people want a challenge, they do the mutations. And often, specific commanders are better at dealing with specific mutations.

[@Knowbody42]

I kind of don't want to tell them that much about it though, because part of the fun is just discovering things for yourself.

[@SLR86]

Brutal mutation

[@Ashimagari1]

Can do the same mission over and over or just do Random ones. Random gives the most exp over picking specific ones. Going normal difficulty also gives a % increase of exp. And increases with higher difficulty.

[@Vulpesune]

Seeing a mutation would be fun. Would want to see how you handle it on a higher difficulty than casual as well.

[@IMIMchannel]

If you are good at ladder, brutal difficulty is easy (without mutations) once you learn how to play your commander. You guys should try hard next, and when that becomes easy try brutal, or hard +mutations.

[@Knut92]

Mutations are extra challenges on top of the mission. Might be a bit too early to do that.

[@xSardaukar]

The weekly mutation is on a specific mission, so it might be a good choice to just do the mutations, but definitely change the difficulty from casual to something higher, maybe go up one difficulty a week?

[@braytag]

Have you ever played the campaing? MB and NW: "There is a campaign???"

[@SaeWhat21]

Zeratul does not play traditional starcraft. Expensive units, you dont upgrade normally, no pylons, and 100 supply. You have to play scavenger hunt with the T key to "upgrade" and unlock blink for stalkers

[@DanielV1234567]

Play it on hard difficulty I find that to be the most enjoyable while not being too sweaty. Plus it would be less stressful for Adam but not overly easy. Or if you really feeling it you can go brutal or brutal plus

[@stevenlima7855]

If its not to much trouble, can we get both perspectives like we got when you guys did Minecraft back in the day?

[@terratron2259]

Void Launch is easy, if not the easiest. I cannot wait until you guys get Scythe of Amon.

[@Justinb2]

You gotta crank it up to the hardest difficult at least once before you finish up doing co-op