The HOLE for the Legless Tool Stand/Storage System Part 1!

[@joelong1526]

To PT cable in concrete requires extremely large anchor points on both ends. That way when you hydraulicly put tension on the cables. This cable is a high carbon stranded wire cable. I had a close friend that had a fatal accident in a PT concrete facility. 😢. If any one works with this steel cable please be very careful with it. When the cable is bent and if you try to cut it with a cut off grinding disc the cable will straighten out very quickly. The end that wasn't secured by mechanical means hit him in the side of his neck. There was nothing EMS could do. Usually PT concrete panels are shipped to the location and lifted by crane into place. I just wanted to ask for everyone to be safety conscious about PT cable that is not in poured concrete. I didn't want to be a downer on your channel.

[@decemberlong9256]

Extremely informative! Thank you for posting 😮! So sorry for your loss 😢.

[@GarageFab]

Thank you, Joe! Your input is very much appreciated. 🙏

[@joelong1526]

Thank you.

[@rainmanmacgyver]

Great Idea! One thing to consider, drill your anchor holes all the way through the concrete. That way if you ever have an issue and need to remove/change/modify your floor mount (as all "Garage fabbers" do) you can knock them through the floor and reuse the same hole with a new wedge anchor. Awesome ideas! Thanks for the channel.

[@GarageFab]

Oh my! That’s really good advice. I’ve pounded my fair share of unneeded anchors into the dirt but when drilling mine I never considered that. It’s going to be a bummer if I ever need to move this.

[@valhallakustom5307]

Great idea. Keeping the holes in the center for drilling guide is a great tip I would have suffered through without it. The final plug design is clean and simple. Thanks.

[@GarageFab]

Guiding the center holes isn’t a huge deal, but guiding the outer holes needs to be much more precise. Otherwise when you try to put the studs in, you might struggle if the holes in the plate don’t perfectly match the holes in the concrete.

[@IR-74]

This work is very beautiful and appropriate. . You inspired me in this work that I was looking for. Thank you, creator🗜

[@ClintsStreetMachines]

Excellent job. Love how much thought went into putting a hole in the floor. You're a kindred soul.

[@GarageFab]

Hahaha! How you do anything is how you do everything. I’m not a wham bam thank you ma’am kinda guy. 🤷‍♂️ Thank you my friend. 🙏

[@ClintsStreetMachines]

@@GarageFab How you do anything is how you do everything " should be on a shirt!

[@garywoodard5759]

post-tensioned slab on grade in a home garage is very rare due to expense. poor soil conditions may contribute to designers decision to PT the slab. PT is usually reserved for slabs that carry heavy loads over an open span, such as a bridge deck. PT can also be used effectively in grade beams (concrete beams placed in-ground (on grade) for building and/or equipment foundation). probability of PT slab in your home garage is low, but it never hurts to check.

[@jeffmiddleton2222]

Prominently displayed in all three garages I was in in Phoenix, Arizona had the PT markings. Pretty sure it applied to the garage slab as well as the living portion.

[@garywoodard5759]

perhaps there is a regional preference for residential PT slabs in Phoenix?? spent my entire life in construction (50+ years of building stuff) and never saw a residential PT slab. the more you know the more you realize you dont know. @@jeffmiddleton2222

[@joelong1526]

To PT cable in concrete requires extremely large anchor points on both ends. That way when you hydraulicly put tension on the cables. This cable is a high carbon stranded wire cable. I had a close friend that had a fatal accident in a PT concrete facility. 😢. If any one works with this steel cable please be very careful with it. When the cable is bent and if you try to cut it with a cut off grinding disc the cable will straighten out very quickly. The end that wasn't secured by mechanical means hit him in the side of his neck. There was nothing EMS could do. Usually PT concrete panels are shipped to the location and lifted by crane into place. I just wanted to ask for everyone to be safety conscious about PT cable that is not in poured concrete. I didn't want to be a downer on your channel.

[@GarageFab]

@joelong1526 No downer at all my friend. In fact, if you wouldn’t mind, I’d ask that you copy your text and paste it in your own comment so that I can pin the comment so more can see it. Thank you for taking the time. Happy holidays.

[@charlesloyd1970]

They say that ignorance is bliss. I've been drilling holes in my shop concrete for a while and nothing has happened yet but now that you've said this I have my reservations about doing it again. Lolol. My shop floor was rebar reinforced so I'm all good. Thanks for these videos because I would've never known about killer concrete cables. Thanks again brother.

[@unavailable8681]

This is way better than having anchors sunk in the ground to bolt the tools to! I'm definately going with your solution for my current garage.

[@GarageFab]

Nice! Lemme know how things go!

[@simblorr]

If you're not keen on using the circular saw to smooth the relief in the concrete, a diamond cup grinding wheel for your angle grinder will also work. Make sure to check the cup is rated for concrete.

[@Thelemorf]

If you dont want to weld the plate and the anchor bolts together, you can use countersunk barrel nuts that you tighten with a Allen key.

[@akbychoice]

Great information as I still hadn’t decided where to mount my floor mount bender and this makes the decision that much easier.

[@GarageFab]

Indeed! It’s bad enough having a tool in the way. Having a bolted down tool is even worse. 😆

[@williamherring5441]

MK; Your brother looks pleased. Another great project illuminated by the magic of KZbin and your hard work. Thank you! v/r wh

[@GarageFab]

Thank YOU William!

[@loamsdown8]

Thanks for this video. Also be aware, if you have a radiant floor heating system make sure you are of clear of the tubing locations.

[@thereplacementfordisplacement]

Thanks dude for cranking that out so fast. I never would have imagined you installed your plate that way, pretty slick.

[@matthewpeterson3329]

If you are concerned about your PT slab, most decent stud finders also detect the cables. I was able to find all my cables in my garage very easily, and the spacing was exactly where the heads of the cables were when I made a map of them during the build. I just used the stud finder to confirm my map was still correct. That was a very clean install. Nicely done sir!

[@GarageFab]

Thank you Matthew! I’m about 90% sure I’m cable free. I don’t have the stamp and I don’t see the ends around the perimeter of the house. I’m definitely going to play with the stud finder and see if it detects the rebar!

[@JonathanWhoever]

Great idea tensioning the studs to weld.

[@ChadLisonbee]

Brilliant as always brother!

[@blakeguidroz]

Wish there was a way to like it more than once. definately saving this to my project ideas playlist

[@craigfuller6187]

Great video. I've seen your brother place. I driven by and always said. That's a great idea for his garage door.

[@VaanillaGorilla]

I am glad I follow you. I would have never thought of this. I am going to copy you, in my own garage. I have trailer hitchs welded in my work bench for similar set ups. On both (front) legs and across the front of my bench.

[@arizadam12]

Same! 🤩👏🏼🤩👏🏼💯

[@trevorgonzales7351]

I love this idea. Would help a lot now that I have two projects to work on.

[@Maxwelshouse1]

I am so thankful for this video. I'm literally weeks from having my slab board and have been thinking of 2 inch polls several areas inside my shop. I was perplexed by the covbrilliant idea with the magnexclamation mark thanks again for a great video

[@marcusluna6977]

Nice work, cool video! Im not big on home improvement or storage ideas on fab channels, but this is exactly on point for what many of us need as a real solution for tool mounting in limited space! If I build a new workshop and install a slab, this will be integral and metal bldg and pole barn installers need to offer these in the build options. This video will be forwarded!!!

[@DrFiero]

Oh yeah - before installing, paint the inside & outside of the steel with self etching primer, then paint it. Concrete will get corrosive when wet (ie, you get a leak of something!). Take a look at some used/removed rebar - it gets totally rusted on the surface.

[@GarageFab]

I definitely should have. It’s a fairly dry garage but it’s still rusting!

[@kenschopshop]

looking good ! i built something kind of like this for my neighbor when he was pouring his floor but we went 1' deep and i welded a few pieces of rebar to the sides of the tube and he dug the footer bigger in that area because his little garage was at the top of a small hill and wanted to winch his project cars into the garage . then i built him a receiver mount winch cradle and an adapter so he could use his winch in the garage and in the hitch of his truck . i wanted to do something like that when i built my shop but had no clue where id want it so i didn't but i might later add a few anchor pots in the floor so i can chain something down to help straighten a chassis or pull on stuff . anyway another great vid !

[@GarageFab]

Interesting! I had considered another hole for that reason; to attach a winch. My driveway is pretty steep as well. 👏

[@kenschopshop]

@GarageFab yeah my neighbor has used his a few times while he's been restoring his chevelle. It makes getting non runners in a million times easier

[@1fastcolt]

yet another great informative video.. now im going to go watch your 4 link videos again and again before I attempt mine on the MM.. thanks much.

[@williesweetjr8713]

Masterfully done! Adding it to my to do list!

[@GarageFab]

Thank you Willie! Lemme know how you like it. 🙌

[@squatch2461]

Love how you do things. Thanks for sharing this.

[@squirrelsworkshop]

Nice idea, nice execution. Like the others said, there is basically no risk of pretensioned concrete in a residential garage, many don't even have rebar.

[@eoghanfla6343]

Just came across your channel today and you’ve some very interesting content so thanks. Seeing this build and the previous one with the tool heads I only have one observation or opinion. If you were to use round tube you could have the same sat up but you could hire a core drill and not only would this save a lot of time instead of chiselling the concrete but core drills can be set to levels and angles. The other advantage to round is you could hole saw the original plate. I’m trying to think of a disadvantage to round but can’t but maybe someone else will. Still though, this is a cool idea. Sorry another suggestion regarding the bolts. One thing that might work is to weld threaded bar onto the bottom of the base, then the top of you base is flush. Simply drill holes, clean out with air and then use some good chemical anchor. Sit your finished piece in and wait a few days. That unit will never move then.

[@GarageFab]

Thank you my friend! I greatly appreciate the input. Excellent ideas. The round would certainly make things easier. The only disadvantage I can think of is it wouldn’t resist twisting. The bender (when not equipped with a hydraulic ram) sees a lot of torque. I’m sure that would be easily overcome with a tab and a single bolt at the base which I considered in order to eliminate the small amount of movement. 🤷‍♂️

[@designandbuild3953]

Great video, as always! Thanks for showing the “rest of the story”.

[@kevinmiller8865]

Awesome I love it. Plan on putting one in my new garage. When I watch your videos I’m always giggling (I AM ENTERTAINED) 😂

[@faroironandcustoms6577]

Glad to see your take on this!! I found some different Ideas on the Interweb. Good to know about the cables as well.

[@WildMigrationNetwork]

Thanks Mate for another great vid. Have a great Christmas. Cheers, Geoff.

[@UnconventionalMetal]

Nice work once again. Lag shields in concrete also work well and add tension when tightened.

[@andyb7754]

Very good information. I was unaware of the cable deal, thank you. I like your brothers cover too.

[@michaelwdavis]

Great content!! I really loved the stationary camera time lapse of the plate drilling. The speed and the rhythm of the cuts just feels perfect, and something about having the drilling axis stationary and the part moving just feels so good for some weird reason.

[@dorianfulton7168]

Man, that was a lot of work! Very cool idea.

[@flyonbyya]

Garage Fab ROCKS !

[@GarageFab]

You rock more. 👊

[@856Dropout]

For a hole cover I was thinking of a thin hinged plate with those weld on hinges

[@bt1959]

Red head drop in anchors with bevel head hardware would be another option for securing the plate. Using a garden sprayer cuts down on the dust when you're drilling significantly. Also only try the polish plane saw trick with a worm drive, It will not work well with a direct drive. Neither will using a direct drive on concrete.

[@thunderbirdizations]

Part 1. Not confusing at all!

[@GarageFab]

Excellent! Glad we’re clear.

[@MotoDeSoto]

Love this. Great video!

[@kylechapman710]

Very slick. 👌

[@arizadam12]

Thank goodness! This video is here! I’ve been hoping for this AND it came before Christmas 🎄 lol 😂🎄🤣

[@arizadam12]

Mankandy for President he's a Fricken Genius!

[@arizadam12]

Hey Mankandy!! I hope the home improvement (first floor bathroom) is going well; Question for ya: At 4:56 of the video, you show a beveling bit; Could you share a link? I assume these are more machinist grade? Everything I find on Amazon looks to be lame/cheap - perhaps more for wood? and not many go up to 3/4" lol Thanks in advance!!

[@AlexM-tx2vr]

I am sure this works great in the desert, but at my house, if I drilled a hole in my floor, water would probably start shooting out like in the cartoons 😃 This year has been particularly bad, I have gotten more than 50" of rain this year!

[@gregorderas5296]

never heard of pt in a residential slab on grade. we only ever run into them on larger commercial slabs with parking or some other space below. anything is possible though.

[@turboflush]

Round the corners of the top plate to make fitting into concrete easier.

[@Paul-ik8fm]

Hot to be careful welding on the concrete can ecplode from the heat

[@dunc71]

Just discovered your Channel today and subscribed. I believe its called a Polish plane when you use a circular saw in that sideways fashion. When describing the quarter" drill bit i noticed you said a one quarter" bit which is a little confusing, whats the reason for adding an extra word?

[@_lumpy8859]

What wall thickness to you recommend for the tool legs? Thanks. I have the receiver ready to install. I purchased a 12” hitch receiver at HF, and cut it in half,rather than a 20’ length

[@GarageFab]

If you’re doing the universal post that fits all the tools, I’d recommend 3/16+. If each tool will have its own post, most only need 1/16 wall. The thicker the wall, the heavier the assembly will be so thinner is usually better. The only tool I have currently that sees a significant amount of torque is my pipe bender. That is the reason my universal post is so thick.

[@rodezell2563]

You can also buy a rebar detector for a lot less than you can have a slab x-rayed.

[@GarageFab]

That’s a thing?!

[@rodezell2563]

@@GarageFab Yep, I think I paid like around $150.

[@GarageFab]

I’ll be looking it up! I’ve got a shower drain to install soon. Thank you!

[@tptrsn]

Damn, I don't know how I missed this video until now. UNACEPTABLE!! Lol. Question for you sir, I need to finally get a tube bender for some roll cage stuff, tube style bumper stuff, etc. I am limited on floor and work space. What style and even make model of bender would you suggest?

[@GarageFab]

So I’ve only got experience with a total of 4 benders. The first isn’t made any more but sucked anyway. The Harbor Freight hydraulic bender is cheap but the bend quality is pretty poor. (Crimped/smashed tubing usually) I own the JD Squared Model 32. Absolutely worth the cost. I’ve used the JD Squared model 3. Also good but just discovered they don’t make that one either. Maybe you can find it used. 🤷‍♂️ Justin from The Fabrication Series uses a Rogue Fab bender and likes it a lot. It’s pretty big though. 😬 This floor hole doohickey is really helpful in a tiny space since the bender usually needs to be bolted down.

[@tptrsn]

@@GarageFab Sweet, thanks for the info! The RogueFab is the one I was thinking I liked the look of on a roll-around stand so it could be moved "out of the way." But I'm getting the impression that they are big enough that one on a roll stand wouldn't really be out of the way ever in my garage.. I'll look closer at the JD2 32!

[@beachboardfan9544]

This has to be a regional thing. I've never seen a PT residential foundation in PA/NJ/MD

[@jonwidmer2415]

Could have used some double expansion Anchors and flat head bolts. Counter sink the holes in the plate

[@GarageFab]

I had never heard of those before. I had to look them up. That would’ve been super clean. I can think of a few other things I could use them in as well. 👏

[@turboflush]

With the PT.. if you feel resistance with the concrete bit on SDS.. then stop!

[@DrFiero]

Ya jammed in a wooly "Nilly" but then skipped the kriss-kross opportunity right after it?! Come on... you're slackin'! :D

[@GarageFab]

Hahaha! So ashamed. 😔

[@nonsequitur807]

Where the hell you been, Mac!?!

[@notme8121]

I had to mute your video because I kept hearing hole and plug and stud and hammer drill and drill the hole on an angle and drill till it falls in the other hole and put it in the hole till it hits the bottom. I was afraid if someone overheard they would think i am some kind of a prevert😮

[@GarageFab]

Hahaha! A missed opportunity for me to insert that annoying porn audio that we’ve all been pranked by.

[@notme8121]

@@GarageFab insert, 🤔

[@JB-xp8xl]

I like it.

[@lannesdcful]

a bushing bit would have worked better than the circular saw for recessing the plate in the floor.

[@GarageFab]

I don’t know what a bushing bit is! I will be looking it up.

[@KZ-yy9pm]

Silica?

[@chazwick75]

Prequels can be better 💪🏼👍🏼

[@PeterHatch-mx7zc]

👍😊

[@whosaidthat5236]

My garage floor is from the 40’s so I’m good… the floor is not good though lol

[@GarageFab]

Haha! Did they have cement back then?

[@randywl8925]

I can make the hole pretty easy, but I don't have a garage to put around it. 😭

[@GarageFab]

Hahaha! Well the garage isn’t mandatory. Got a driveway?!

[@randywl8925]

@@GarageFab ...oh yeah, now I see why the bottom is open for drainage. You think of everything. 👍 I'm buying a Powerball ticket tomorrow. ...I'll let ya know.

[@GarageFab]

Please do! Will you donate 0.01% of your winnings to the channel? Best of luck!

[@randywl8925]

@@GarageFab ....that's only like forty cents. I'll promise you a lot more than that. Maybe a tank of gas with a nice truck in it. ...I always hated math. 😂

[@roqueolds3419]

RoqueVersiani Brazil. without instruction grasshopper dont enter.