Light & Lens Tests

Today we test some lights!
GELS:
A: CTO
B: STRAW
C: Steel Blue
D: CTB
DIFFUSION:
A: No Diffusion
B: Shower Curtain
C: Sheet
D: Diffusion in front of Light (Opal Frost)
E: White Photo Muslin
F: Diffusion on Light (250 Diff)
G: Bounce
H: Book light
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[@AustinThomasFilms]

You guys have TOO much fun with your ads. XD

[@TheBestDanno]

AustinTheWeird123 yup....they do. But it's fun :)

[@joshhutt4092]

This is a really good way to learn about the creative side of filmmaking, it's much easier for people to develop their own style and tastes by watching completely non-subjective content like this. I do as many of my own test shoots as I can but I don't have the time or the budget to hire all of that equipment. Nice work Film Riot, I'd really like to see more videos like this.

[@michaelt9737]

This was really cool, especially the examples of moving the lights around. Thanks.

[@alanbiggle544]

That ad tho. Incredible.

[@CinematographyDatabase]

"Go-dad-SLAM!"

[@JimmyKurz]

Really loved the fun creativity in this episode! Super stoked to see you guys hit 1mill.

[@SebLovesd]

Another great video! Film Riot always seem to inspire me :) Great job!

[@Gozyization]

I love you guys. Your videos are always so informative and well made. Even your silliness has grown on me. Thanks for sharing.

[@filmriot]

+Ngozi Enumah Glad you dug it.

[@c0pyimitati0n]

Did you not like their silliness to begin with? lol

[@Gozyization]

Haha. Not at first, no but they have one of the most informative KZbin channels around and they're quite amusing once you get used to them.

[@Blake_Bradford]

The sponser short was the best part of this video hands down

[@lacrossebap3x6]

1. I kinda wish you showed each test with all the results at once in like 9x9 grid or something and 2. the soundtrack on the last test made me feel like I was watching DRIVE :)

[@GHBMovingPictures]

i felt the same way lol

[@JAMEYX]

does anyone know the name of the song?

[@WerewolfReaper]

www.apmmusic.com/albums/JGM-0035

[@JAMEYX]

thx.

[@JSeven]

oh sweet! just what i was asking about. da best.

[@MisterAnthony706]

"I cant translate violence" that was beautiful.

[@JB-xv8my]

'Bout time y'all brought back the E-Talent. The grim-reaper finger was awesome, and the head slam was almost as funny as Guy trying to take a swig while trying to get that t-shirt off.

[@gabrielmachadobsb]

That episode went so fast lol, the 8 minutes felt like 2. Great work, and I'm super excited for bloodtober. I just wish the labels for the tests were in closed captions, so it would save the work of going in and out of the video. Anyway, you're awesome as always

[@gabrielmachadobsb]

Also, on a somewhat unrelated note, I've recently launched a crowdfunding campaign for a short, if anyone is interested, please check it out ;) www.indiegogo.com/projects/instinct-short-film-drama--2/x/9335586#/ Even just clicking would help it get more attention, so apologize if I seem like one those guys advertising their channels

[@NickGranville]

Thanks for all the videos you post. Cheers

[@PhinehasYoon]

Yes! A domain ad! They're finally back!

[@NatesFilmTutorials]

Love the look with the Light Dome

[@dangonzalez1420]

at 3:30 "Put pickle juice in Ryan's shoes" lmbo!! Too funny

[@joshsjunk365]

I'm at work and I was laughing way to hard at that ad... people are staring...

[@kulmajaba]

Wonderful episode, lots of useful info. Also, the ad was hilarious. Thank you.

[@KSchawacker]

Yay Ryan and I both like the 4Bank Keno Flo! I like that it doesn't add unwanted warmth to the shot. Of coarse, if I needed it, I could use a Par can, but the Kenos just look so damn cool.

[@jmoore4674]

Film riot is the best.

[@donavanmylesedwards882]

wow great video love the music choice for the end part with the light movement

[@michaelfokias]

wow really liked this episode. not only helpful but also entertaining

[@luboyanev]

That milli is coming! Great episode again

[@esbenjohansen6062]

Bloody GREAT insights illustrated in an inspiring way!

[@filmriot]

+Esben Johansen (fotoesben) Thanks man. Glad you dug it.

[@filmstuff2593]

That ad!!! Very funny also I'm pretty sure that was go daddy joke 😂

[@filmriot]

+Film Stuff It was. :)

[@filmstuff2593]

Film Riot I knew it!!!!

[@theweakerone5097]

I loved the can light surprisingly!

[@SamuelRowan]

I love this kind of content!

[@filmriot]

+Samuel Rowan Thanks man.

[@winstonchurchill8300]

This time the domain dot com part was funny again. Well done! Thanks.

[@Triflixfilms]

When you shot the different Focal lengths, you had to move the camera back right? Because the framing was all identical. Was a bit confused by this sorcery.

[@deangeloscott]

You're right, the camera was moved to compensate for the change in focal distance.

[@MaxxMcGeeImpactStudios]

Right, and it's not easy to get such an accurate framing every time.

[@YOUNGCREATIVES]

That commercial was really well done! It would be great to see you make a comedy film. I feel like that's where your creative ideas thrive best, in my opinion. Also, what is the name of that song you used for the shifting light example @7:00 ???

[@WerewolfReaper]

song at 6:42 LIBRARY: JGM Music (JGM) TRACK TITLE: Digital Lover (a) COMPOSER: Wayne Murray (PRS), Lana McDonagh (PRS), Timothy Fleet (PRS) PUBLISHER: Purple Fox APM (ASCAP) TRACK ID: JGM_JGM_0035_00701 APM RELEASE DATE: 05/11/2016

[@DowntimeMedia]

I caught that Green Room tag at the end ;) also, how does your shot not have any grain when you were panning the light around emily? I really don't understand how thats achieved

[@NihilQuest]

Very good episode. I loved the Domain ad. Was the yellow person a reference to something? It's so simple yet it looked creepy in an awesome way. Good luck with getting such powerful image with CGI, ha : )

[@NextGenNow]

loved this video, focal lengths and the psychology behind it is something that interests me a lot. while I am curious about your perspective on it, Ryan I understand why you keep it to yourself. if you have any good books or forums on the topic I'd live to read it.

[@dslynx]

Domain.com ad had me tearing up! Awesome!

[@Real_Boye]

Ryan is a lighting MAESTRO!!!

[@vrfilms7567]

the most important aspect for filmmaking. love it . look ing for more topics . thanks 👍

[@lightpointfilms3798]

I absolutely loved loved this episode and I want you to do more like these. In this episode I felt like you went too fast through all the options. Keep it real hot guys.

[@throughtheveilproductions]

Haha. "Talent." Yep, Emily nailed her scene.

[@frto4645]

Very nice episode - next time when doing the diffusion, it would be good to show how the diffusion was setup. Also, please say which camera/color temp. It helps to have better understanding. thanks! Big fan!

[@spiderwayne]

For the Westcott Ice Light 2 demo is he holding up 1 or 2 lights? I only ask because it's a 2 pack light kit.

[@esbenjohansen6062]

YEAH! You did it with style!

[@iDealMedley]

why the hell am i going to school , when you guys teach more than what my school has to offer.

[@fullframevisuals]

I nearly choked to death laughing about that ad.. Damn xD

[@TitanTankNate]

Hey Ry Guy, I'm a Lighting Designer professionally, and I was curious. What is your opinion on the use of automated luminaires (aka moving lights) for effects purposes? This includes the use of the gobos, beam shaping, color whee/CMY, etc. Do you find them useful, or find them overkill/underwhelming?

[@BD-fi5wy]

different angles of light on Emily made her completely different sometimes a lot older. very cool.

[@whitepointstarproductions8905]

Was that a godaddy joke I sensed?

[@RSpudieD]

yes....yes it was

[@gabrielmachadobsb]

What, when?

[@RSpudieD]

Gabriel Machado in the advertisement, the Josh starts to type "go da..." And the yellow ghost slams his face into the keyboard, automatically typing "domain.com"

[@fredyrmz1]

Lol! I remember when they were sponsored by GoDaddy :V

[@MMedic23]

YES. domain.com sketches! You guys were reading the script (with no interruptions) for some time. (That part with "Go" are you really allowed to do that :^))) )

[@michaelramova]

What is the name of that song at the end? Sounds really neat

[@instanti1]

This is the best kind of learning video!

[@whichlens435]

These are good tool-shots. Like to remember what does what. U can have a complete body test too. It's not prohibited, test is more human (and maybe we go deeper in light science.) Hugh !

[@TortOviedo]

Loved last light moves.

[@marcolapel4640]

fantastico il fatto che all'inizio ci sia una canzone in italiano! xD you rock guys!

[@Vautksch]

Man, I love that 16mm look, gives me Amelie vibes for sure

[@jrock198121]

the more you teach us about lights the better

[@ookiemand]

loved the 80s music bit with the icelight

[@WerewolfReaper]

www.apmmusic.com/albums/JGM-0035

[@ookiemand]

Thank you very much!

[@SAndSPictures]

NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO WHERE DID MY INTRO GOOOOOOOO!?!?!??!! It always used to get me excited for the Film Riot episode that was about to unveil.

[@SatanicJamnic]

About gels - there is no point of using them when you don't mix your geld light with other lights. You should tell about white ballance, gray card and CRI.

[@JPatrickZbella]

SatanicJamnic I absolutely agree! This information felt like I already knew it all and needed to see this information used more practically.

[@filmriot]

+SatanicJamnic That goes without saying for gels that are being used just to correct color temp. However, knowing the look straw vs CTO will give you is very useful. And the color gels stand on their own.

[@filmriot]

+J. Patrick Zbella You may know it all, but there are many who do not.

[@JPatrickZbella]

+Film Riot fair enough! I didn't mean to sound condescending! I love what you guys do and never miss an episode -- keep up the good work!

[@LittleSpark875]

It would be more useful if we knew what white balance you were using for each shot.

[@jonnypanteloni]

that ad was amazing. terrifying. i feel like looking over my shoulder, but im holding my bladder and if i do look i'll probably need a change of clothes...

[@MariusIhlar]

WHERE CAN I BUY THAT BOOKLIGHT at 3:16!? Looks Awesome!

[@reageorge]

It's not a particular light it's a combination of bounce and diffusion, search "Book Lighting" here on KZbins Film Riot even have one of their own videos on the subject.

[@MariusIhlar]

Ah, that explains alot! Thanks! I like your videos by the way! have to practice licks now. :P

[@reageorge]

Yup, Cheers. I use that technique as my key light, I just find it the easiest setup to get the kind of image I like for my purposes.

[@MariusIhlar]

It looks soo nice! :)

[@NektariosK]

Nice ad! Hehe! First time I watch it until the end!

[@ricomichel]

Er, loved the comparo, thank you as always Film Riot; but as an old school 35mm photographer I'm wondering which sensor size do these focal lengths apply to? I guess super 35 or APS-C, but just to be sure. The 85mm clearly wins (more flattering), but on a full frame 35mm camera, I think I prefer 105mm ;-))

[@mohammadabbas9691]

What about your movie known as intercept?? I know about taht movie and you made videos about it but we never heard any thing

[@AustinThomasFilms]

Legend says it's still being finished.

[@oscar_jacques]

Only the elders in my tribe can remember Intercept.

[@Triflixfilms]

Pepperidge Farms Remembers...

[@dexterhydron6346]

Film Riot Epic Summer they said xD

[@gabrielmachadobsb]

"When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east. When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. Then Intecept will be released, and not one day before."

[@Tardvark]

Whats the song used starting at 6:42?

[@Qwertworks]

Zachary Dwyer yeah, I'd like to know that, too!

[@francescofrosolini4637]

me too

[@jean-pierrechapoteau1556]

2 chainz - Big amount

[@Deepidea102]

yes please i wanna know

[@gabrielmachadobsb]

I'd love to know too

[@mrwhitemantv]

Aputure lights (the first and the last) win all the way for me!

[@jnewmy14]

It would have been helpful to have a description of where the light is placed when moving around the talent. It's great to see it for the look, but telling us, or the ones that are slow to the uptake, where the light is would have been nice. Learned a lot from this video, thanks for doing what you do.

[@JAYCEETAYLOR]

40,000 more subscribers and then... BAMMY WHAM!

[@aniketdigar8634]

This episode was fulfilling like a good meal.😬 burp!!

[@andregomez5986]

How do you get those dark room shots with out having a ton of grain and noise( not pointing fingers 👉harry potter). I understand ISO aperture and so on with exposure but I've always scratched my head when I can't get those great shots in a room that's dark. Btw I have a canon t3i and used to have a canon xti

[@prostoantonsytnik]

Ryan, i'm sorry, but please - tell the name of the song in the end)) Never seen a comparison between different lights and diffuses before, nice idea!

[@TheRestlesstonight]

Nice song starting 6:42... not on Shazam.... who is it? Is that royalty free?? Cheers Guys... love your work

[@aidan_flaherty]

Oh man I am looking at this stuff and first saying to myself, "Wow! These are great movie things", and then I search the stuff and I find out that they are mostly all around $1,000. I can only get so much with what I have.

[@calvinchmelir5779]

haha

[@JMadlock108]

It hurts your heart when what you love to do is expensive as hell xD.

[@ANigerianPrince]

Thanks a lot for this. This is super useful.

[@Elizabeth_Postol]

what the heck is "Book light" mean in diffusion test ? sorry, need to know

[@mythdusterds]

As cool and useful this video is one aspect that this video did not answer that I would be curious about is the price for the different types of lights shown as well as the portability for each one of the different types of lights as far as speed for set up & take down for each type of light. Are these lights only useful in a set location inside or can they be easily moved from one location to the next and how easy is it if you are trying to light a scene outside with the lights. What would be you recommendation for a portable light set up should you go outside and it is a night scene outside and doing a portrait scene but still want the background to show up such as a sunset or sunrise set up and all you have is a limited budget and only battery operated lights but don't want the harsh light of the flash? There is no problem finding locations for lights because you have stands and other places to direct the light but don't know how to set up the lights with no places to plug in power cords.

[@JSeven]

yay! i love light tests (use to be a studio tech). what's the track you start at 6:44??

[@AdamKuzniar]

It's not about focal lengths but about the distance from the lens to the subject. If you shoot with 50mm, then switch to 16mm and crop in, the face would like the same. It's a misconception really.

[@BrysonHowe]

GREEN ROOM!! Also what was that song at the end?

[@surgeland9084]

I like the new videos, but I miss the old effects tutorials. I'd love to see some more of both.

[@markn.reprisal9472]

The soul eater ! The *LEMONY* SOUL EATER !!!!!

[@fraykay5853]

Does anyone remember Outsiders? Are you guys gonna make it?

[@aykas]

finally josh be a normal person

[@outerentity]

Can I ask how you moved the light with long motions like that at the end with the eighties track. lovely sequence..

[@brandonmenneke]

Love the GoDaddy joke! What was the song on the last lighting test on Emily?

[@jasonbullet1436]

Hey Ryan, do you have any tips on shooting in first person? :)

[@jta6667]

Wow I've never been so early in my life! I feel honored!

[@OhenesJourney]

ryan how do you use more than one monitor when filming. I have a sony fs100 it only has 1 hdmi output will it work.

[@alessiomerlo3498]

Hi RYan, hi JOsh, hi EMily ! W ITALY XD when you shoot a movie did you normally use a "FLat" Picture style or you use a Picture style with some contrast or saturation? What you think (and you prefer) about : "color correction on camera VS color correction on PC"?

[@filmriot]

+Alessio Merlo depends on what I'm doing and what the end result should be. However, more often than not I'm shooting as flat as possible to increase my dynamic range.

[@OhenesJourney]

I always wondered how you are able to use more than one monitor when filming and all display the image from the camera. HELP!!!!!

[@BobIzam]

Man I remember back in school if I heard the word test I would run. Now I see the word test and I'm intrigued

[@coastertron]

Heya! How can I light a scene with reflective surfaces in the background or actors who have classes?

[@korasie]

Can I screengrab some for drawing purposes? :) very useful for light studies for artists

[@lkadshglkhvani]

You guys should put out more videos like this.

[@londongreeno9443]

Ryan your the man!!!

[@Salehalanazi-7]

So close to 1 mill

[@Stellanorthmediaproductions]

SUPER dig the beard!

[@eduards_mellups]

Comparing focal lengths in a dark room with a black background. Real clever dudes.

[@filmriot]

+pionicor Yep. Since as we said here, this was about what it would do to your actors face. Having a background would only distract from what we were looking to test.

[@eduards_mellups]

Yeah I got that, but in most cases the most dramatic thing a lens changes is the actors relationship with the background. Seems like a test like this is useful only to people who want to film a person in front of a black wall :D Anyway I'm just messing with you. Have a good one :D

[@scurvyfilms1646]

ALL MOST THERE. ONE MILLION!!

[@Aidenn23]

Is the light dome just a diffusion method, or is it an actual light from Aputure? I'm just seeing it as a softbox on their site. If that's the case, what light is being used with the dome?

[@Aidenn23]

Never mind, did a bit of research. Probably the Aputure LS C120t, yes?

[@TraceMyers26]

There's an interesting misconception here that you're taught as part of learn-photography-on-the-internet 101: that longer focal lengths create compression of an image. In truth, *longer distance from your subject creates that compression.* If you were to place your camera 25 feet from your subject and take two shots: one with a 35mm lens and one with a 100mm lens, then crop the 35mm shot in post to fit the field of view of the 100mm, you would see that the compression is identical. Inversely, if you were to place your camera 5 feet from your subject and take one shot with the 35mm, and many (stitched-together) shots with the 100mm, you'll find that you get the same decompression and facial distortion as is associated with wide angle lenses - in both images. Here, they may vary slightly given that the field of view of the 35mm lens may concentrate onto the sensor in a place that is farther or closer than your tripod's pivot point, which is acting as your (sort of) center point of light concentration for the 100mm shots. If it doesn't really seem right, just imagine you're looking at two people: one in the midground and one in the foreground. As you move closer to the person in the midground, you'll see the space between them, in your field of view, increase. As you back up, the opposite. It's the same with lenses. It's not that a telephoto lens is creating compression. The distance creates compression and you're magnifying the incoming light to see that compression up close. Close one of your eyes right now and move your palm closer and farther away from your one open eye. You'll see your fingers bend away and your palm get much, much bigger respectively, just as would happen with an ultra-wide lens (or a 100mm, for that matter.)