Lilium Jet hits targeted maximum speed for the aircraft: 136kt

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Proud to officially announce we’ve hit our targeted speed for our tech demonstrator Phoenix 2: 136kt (250 +km/h, 155 + mph).
This is meaningful as our target cruise speed at sea level for our confirming aircraft for will be up to: 155 mph / 250 km/h.
Our tech demonstrator hitting this target helps us to demonstrate stability and controllability of the aircraft and control software also in high speed and helps us towards certification of our conforming aircraft by validating our models in the high speed regime.
Flight details:
Flight Test Objective: Achieve top speed after full transition
Aircraft: Phoenix 2 Technology Demonstrator
Pilot: Remote
Location: ATLAS Flight test center, Spain
By popular demand, here is the full flight with basic flight information including speed data: • Lilium Jet hits target...

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@Tigermoto
@Tigermoto Жыл бұрын
Now THAT is how you do a demo video! No dodgy filters, no weird camera angles, no slow Mo drama stuff, no stupid music, no commentary. What a breath of fresh air! Congratulations on the flight test, looked amazing!
@sefrautiq
@sefrautiq Жыл бұрын
It's okay when it's balanced, and not over the top, but sometimes, yeah, it's cheesy
@BodhiPolitic
@BodhiPolitic Жыл бұрын
Agreed. But I would have liked to see airspeed and altitude displays.
@frankyflowers
@frankyflowers Жыл бұрын
it has jump cuts every few seconds.
@frankyflowers
@frankyflowers Жыл бұрын
a good demo would be showing them load the equivalent weight of passengers in it then a complete unedited shot of the entire flight from take off to landing. was this flight empty and for 3 minutes? can it lift people for 5 minutes?
@frankyflowers
@frankyflowers Жыл бұрын
@@BodhiPolitic id like to see the battery display
@MinstrelSentFromAnotherLand
@MinstrelSentFromAnotherLand Жыл бұрын
If you’re like me you are probably wondering exactly what this is. Well I googled it, and for those who don’t know this is the first electric vertical take off and flight (eVTOL) aircraft. Pretty neat!
@bagpussmacfarlan9008
@bagpussmacfarlan9008 Жыл бұрын
Quite neat but not totally sure what the point is...
@forloop7713
@forloop7713 Жыл бұрын
Almost like a helicopter
@augustusb3501
@augustusb3501 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for that information
@EduardoGomez-hw4cu
@EduardoGomez-hw4cu Жыл бұрын
​@@bagpussmacfarlan9008 A compact and electric flying car?
@bagpussmacfarlan9008
@bagpussmacfarlan9008 Жыл бұрын
@@EduardoGomez-hw4cu It's got big wings!
@mig4868
@mig4868 Жыл бұрын
Five minute, uninterrupted test video. What a treat.
@FredPlanatia
@FredPlanatia Жыл бұрын
0:07, 0:15, 0:21, 0:31, 0:37, 0:48, 0:53, that's 7 interruptions in just the first minute. They didn't even show an uninterrupted landing (5:05), so i almost wonder what it is they are trying to hide, and yes, i am fun at parties.
@kingplays5369
@kingplays5369 Жыл бұрын
@@FredPlanatia you sure about your claim to be fun at parties
@floatcheese
@floatcheese Жыл бұрын
@@kingplays5369 As shure as you are a King.
@EntropiaBones
@EntropiaBones Жыл бұрын
@@FredPlanatia My uneducated guess would be they are hiding the telltale signs of turbulence in front of the moveable thrusters.
@amorag59
@amorag59 Жыл бұрын
@@FredPlanatia Those are called scene cuts, interruptions mean stops (as in stops so that a big wig can talk marketing talk)
@joeraciti
@joeraciti Жыл бұрын
Why aren't more people talking about the take off? That was amazing. Super fast and smooth transition out of the high-power take off phase as far as I can tell.
@ChrisBrown-Concorde216
@ChrisBrown-Concorde216 Жыл бұрын
Love it .A no BS video. Real Time. No music. No commentary . Perfect. Congratulations on this event👍
@jorglopker5315
@jorglopker5315 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations to the whole team at Lilium! Keep going!! We believe in you.
@n1vca
@n1vca Жыл бұрын
I don't, at least I don't believe in the promised 7 seater when they can't even fly for 15 minutes with a single person on board right now! Imagine this with 7 people on board over at least 50 km or more (e.g. from a city to an airport), no battery can deliver enough power for these small ducted fans that need to run at crazy RPMs because of their ridiculously small surface. But here with nobody on board, just the weight of the batteries as a first demo that this thing can do true horizontal flight, that is a good first step, which they desperately needed many years ago. That concept looks cool but is not practical for at least another decade to actually do what they promised to deliver. I think some local RC model flying clubs have capable people who may be able to build something like this from scratch in a year or two if they work full time on it. I really wonder what they did with all these hundreds of people and hundreds of million € all these 7 years or more? They may have spent a lot of money on hiring expensive people from Airbus to make their project look legit with their names on it, so that investors with less aerodynamic knowledge as me may trust in Daniels cool looking dream. Please give this thing much bigger fans, which will require redesigning the entire concept, cut it down to 4 or less passengers and make it actually happen ASAP if you want to get on the bandwagon and survive, else you will never make it out of the financial hole you have been digging yourself in.
@onlineo2263
@onlineo2263 Жыл бұрын
@@n1vca I disagree. Battery technology is improving. Lithium Air batteries may be mass produced this year or next year with an energy density of double the current mass produced lithium ion batteries, with promise that the energy density will double again in the next 5 years. This is a brake through that could enable airplanes to fly short haul off batteries, so I think these guys will be fine. I believe many smaller fans is more efficient.
@avigator
@avigator Жыл бұрын
@@onlineo2263 Which batteries? Who is developing them?
@scottw595
@scottw595 Жыл бұрын
@@onlineo2263 false
@n1vca
@n1vca Жыл бұрын
@@JCWolf73 good point, with a fuel cell you make this work, but then the cost of operation and the resources will skyrocket while needing its own very specific infrastructure.
@pigpuke
@pigpuke Жыл бұрын
Watching the airflow indicators and seeing where the low-pressure vortexes form is pretty interesting. We use those same indicators on sailboat sails so we know how to adjust our trim as not to "spill air" which can lower speed/performance and damage the sailcloth if the wind vortexes are too strong.
@lockwoodpeckinpaugh9252
@lockwoodpeckinpaugh9252 Жыл бұрын
Telltale. Old method.
@johnfurseth9791
@johnfurseth9791 Жыл бұрын
Best design I’ve seen. - JPF, Mechanical Engineer
@octavicolom4562
@octavicolom4562 Жыл бұрын
Amazing! I would suggest for the following months that you upload a video showcasing the maximum range the model can reach, without cuts and with telemetry. If the battery cells provide 300-340 kwh/kg as seen on tests it should be able to provide 200 km in 45-50 minute video. I think that would convince a lot of naysayers. We belive in you!
@cryptoslacker-464
@cryptoslacker-464 Жыл бұрын
So nice to watch how smoothly it travels through the air. Landing with such ease as well. Reminds me of watching my favourite sci fi series , it's like the future is now ❤
@19DGL94
@19DGL94 Жыл бұрын
I want pelicans from halo to be a real thing...
@B01
@B01 Жыл бұрын
Any other airport traffic control tower: "YOU KNOW YOURE COMING IN AT THE TOTALLY WRONG ANGLE RIGHT?!" Lilium pilot: "YEA...BUT WATCH THIS!!! FLIPS VTOL SWITCHES"
@COORS5766
@COORS5766 Жыл бұрын
9 kids in either Africa or China died extracting enough lithium for the batteries in this plane! Awesome!
@skygazer858
@skygazer858 Жыл бұрын
@@COORS5766 Don't worry. That batteries in this are made from baby seal pelts and not lithium.
@AITreeBranches
@AITreeBranches Жыл бұрын
​@gwmjr111 10 neurons died when I read this comment, rip.
@arcangelbane
@arcangelbane Жыл бұрын
Wow. Awesome to see that you are making progress and hitting your goals. Keep going. Love to see the Lilium Jets in our Skies.
@Nill757
@Nill757 Жыл бұрын
Alongside the Zeppelins
@MrGunderfly
@MrGunderfly Жыл бұрын
wow! almost full envelope test! it was exciting seeing all the ribbons going straight, knowing that it was flying like a normal airplane.. sooo cool.
@flameshoter6
@flameshoter6 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure they are leeches holding for dear life
@jamesfernick3741
@jamesfernick3741 Жыл бұрын
in the sailing community they call those ribbons telltales, you often see them on the sails for boats so you can more easily see the direction of air currents when adjusting the sail, it really does help to optimize trim settings and get the most speed, the way they stabilized throughout the flight it almost looked like the pilot was adjusting the panel trim until the airflow looked smoother similar to how you would trim with a sail,
@00dfm00
@00dfm00 Жыл бұрын
I've been watching Lilium for years now. Congrats on your successful flight and look forward to booking a flight when you're up and running - hopefully very soon!
@frankyflowers
@frankyflowers Жыл бұрын
buy some stock. its 67 cents
@TrueTempleDog
@TrueTempleDog Жыл бұрын
Love me a 'rubber meets the road' tech demo, nothing but footage from launch to landing. Congrats on the milestone!
@frankyflowers
@frankyflowers Жыл бұрын
its deceptively edited clips arranged to look as good as possible. it shouldn't be considered a demonstration.
@davidbray2500
@davidbray2500 Жыл бұрын
Keep going people. Instead of people protesting and whinging about things not getting done, you are doing it, you’re advancing the human race and you get my thumbs up. Well done from Australia
@austin.england
@austin.england Жыл бұрын
Not sure why, but I’d love to see how quick it could go from top speed to a full stop. Watching those “wings” or whatever they’re called in action and how they function is way fascinating! Awesome job!
@saadisave
@saadisave Жыл бұрын
It wouldn't be very safe to attempt that. The craft would pitch up, stall, go out of control and crash.
@austin.england
@austin.england Жыл бұрын
@@saadisave I mean in one of their tests. Maybe not from top speed, but I’m sure they’ve had to do a test like that before. That would be awesome to see.
@andrewday3206
@andrewday3206 Жыл бұрын
@@saadisave The Harrier jump jet actually did this in combat
@wordreet
@wordreet Жыл бұрын
Well it's an airplane rather than a heli, so that sort of maneuver probably won't be on the cards. Usually canards, and ailerons, but, yes, what the heck might they be called when they are smothered in motors??? Motorducks? Motorons? 😅
@theboz1419
@theboz1419 Жыл бұрын
​@wordreet They would have to do a test from max speed to a hover. But, they more then likely did it on a simulator and then the put in logic into the controls that would limit the angle of the engines until air speed was safe to hover
@Platinumwendy
@Platinumwendy Жыл бұрын
Congrats Liilium. Would have loved to see the speed telemetry displayed
@bryanlallen
@bryanlallen Жыл бұрын
And please add battery State Of Charge (SOC), and instantaneous power draw in Kilowatts.
@MrRossi1805
@MrRossi1805 Жыл бұрын
@@bryanlallen exactly my sentiments!
@williamzk9083
@williamzk9083 Жыл бұрын
It's best not to give too much information even though intelligent people want to know the details. Self proclaimed analysts will use it to create a false narrative to mislead investors or create false negative rumors that support agendas or just click bait. Lilium should only release basic facts to prevent the rumor mill. For instance if Lilim released footage of noise readings of an early test bed designed purely to test hover even though the ducted fans didn't have nozzles or anechooic liners and other noise reduction methods some self proclaimed analyst would misuse it. Likewise with battery SOC. We now have batteries with 12X the 600 cycle life in the labs. These are complex engineering projects and elements are tested bit by bit. -Besides these are propriety projects and the know how is property . Lilium investors have invested hundreds of millions in test beds and a flight test campaign to learn this information so instantaneous power draw and SOC gives huge amounts of information an competitor can use to get a design point.
@recoilrob324
@recoilrob324 Жыл бұрын
@@bryanlallen I was wondering about these electrical parameters too....but it's VERY unlikely that we'll get such info because that would allow just about anyone to figure out that this vehicle will not be a viable working aircraft without massive 'quantum leap' type battery improvements. Try to get that Certified here in the USA and you legally need 1/2 hour reserve flight time beyond your destination....and this limits all EV aircraft at the moment to a very short flight duration which makes them pretty much an expensive toy.
@EaglePicking
@EaglePicking Жыл бұрын
@@bryanlallen Yeah that would be interesting, but also their main trade secret so why would they just disclose it?
@jc11250f45
@jc11250f45 Жыл бұрын
Impressive. Something truly new and unique in aviation. Thanks for making the video available. It was absolutely thrilling to watch. I am still an active pilot at 79 yrs age and to see it all working with the tufts was great. You guys and gals deserve medals!
@kartyl1wielki
@kartyl1wielki Жыл бұрын
Please leave the sky, you are danger to yourself and others.
@iixorb
@iixorb Жыл бұрын
Now that right there, is a genuine game changer. I hadn’t heard of this before. They should see if Microsoft are interested in modelling this in FS (and raise awareness of its existence). Best of luck, and safe flying 👍
@kingghidorah8106
@kingghidorah8106 Жыл бұрын
this thing is amazing, mixing thrust vectoring and control surfaces in one!
@TheFlatronify
@TheFlatronify Жыл бұрын
Awesome, the only "flying object" of it's class that's not just a CGI rendering and actually conducts flight after flight! :)
@DeLambada
@DeLambada Жыл бұрын
Lilium is awesome. But they are not the only ones conducting successful test flight. Check out Beta Alia. They have flown (as a normal aircraft not evtol) from New York to Vermont. They have also had successful test flights as an evtol. I believe they are not yet transitioning in flight. But they will also get there. Which is good. There needs to be some competition. And you are absolutely right: there is way too much cgi and to little actual aviation going on.
@Muuip
@Muuip Жыл бұрын
Lilium as air ambulances! 👍👍👍
@zfear6959
@zfear6959 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic time to be in Aviation imo. And I'll echo the wonder that is a test video, uninterrupted, no goofy soundtrack. Some of us like the wind noise.
@thelonewrangler1008
@thelonewrangler1008 Жыл бұрын
Nice work guys! There's people you've never met rooting for your success
@fraserconnell21
@fraserconnell21 Жыл бұрын
So cool to see all the trim lines settle down at 137kts speed🎉
@jessejuliano8056
@jessejuliano8056 Жыл бұрын
With news of Amprius creating 500w/kg batteries - we aren't far from actual commercial electric flight! This is awesome. Thanks for the progress video!
@Username-qx9gk
@Username-qx9gk Жыл бұрын
Do we know if those batteries are actually hitting those figures on more than one cycle? They might be single use for spacecraft etc.
@swecreations
@swecreations Жыл бұрын
@@Username-qx9gk We've had single use batteries with 500wh/kg for years, so no, they definitely aren't.
@Username-qx9gk
@Username-qx9gk Жыл бұрын
@@swecreations But maybe those batteries couldn't deliver massive current like the newer chemistries? I have a suspicion these are just really high strung lipos that take a beating hitting that number, maybe also some clever design like tabless pouch
@ModelLights
@ModelLights Жыл бұрын
@@Username-qx9gk 'are just really high strung lipos' Actually if it's the one I saw a video on a few days ago, they redid one of the electrodes to bypass the normal limitation of lithium cell electrodes. Normal maximum was like 280 or 360 max, and these could do 500. Promising, but there is still a jump to make from 'it works in lab level samples' to 'we can make tons of them cheaply'. Silicon based though, so a material that is cheap, abundant, and is already well understood and handled. So we might eventually see this one come to market.
@Username-qx9gk
@Username-qx9gk Жыл бұрын
@@ModelLights Was it Sandy Monro? Saw that too, they quickly mentioned something about an issue still being working on where the silicon crystals fail, or something to that effect. Not sure, I get graphene nanotube battery type vibes
@JohnConnorTM
@JohnConnorTM Жыл бұрын
Great job! I liked especially to see that the airflow on both frontal and rear wings became stable at cruise speed. I guess that was one of the bigger questions that needed answered as it otherwise would seriously impacts top speed and efficiency.
@AwesomeAngryBiker
@AwesomeAngryBiker Жыл бұрын
Lets all appreciate these guys, one of the few channels where the uploader isn't trying to make money on every video they can ie they ain't greedy
@jhwheuer
@jhwheuer Жыл бұрын
My son of 16 is getting his glider pilot license this year… what a flight experience he will have in his life with this tech on the horizon.
@cesarrobledo2583
@cesarrobledo2583 Жыл бұрын
Why not just go for PPL instead?
@shoelessjoe428
@shoelessjoe428 Жыл бұрын
As a Brit I desperately want the option of taking evtols to mainland Europe. Don't give up, Lilium.
@williamzk9083
@williamzk9083 Жыл бұрын
I like the international flavor of this project. A Dutch registered company with bases in Germany and testing in Spain. The team is from everywhere (Swiss, British, German, Italian, Spnish and more) with a lot of key people from Britain. Credit to Daniel Weiland and the original 3 for such an inclusive project that every European (including post brexit UK) can feel proud and a part of.
@Claude_van
@Claude_van Жыл бұрын
@@williamzk9083 inclusive yes, profitabel . . . ?😢
@shoelessjoe428
@shoelessjoe428 Жыл бұрын
@@williamzk9083 Agree. They're a great company. But they may run out of money :(
@williamzk9083
@williamzk9083 Жыл бұрын
@@shoelessjoe428 They've just demonstrated transition and full speed flight. We will start getting more milestones reached that validate the design and provide the key data for a commercial product. There have also been battery breakthroughs demonstrating enhanced battery life (about 11 fold at 40C) that will ensure commercial success as it will allow eVTOLS to make 6000 of full range flights. I would think the quite , 'stealthy' possibilities might ensure some military funding.
@billybobthe9thjr786
@billybobthe9thjr786 Жыл бұрын
i love VTOL's so seeing this fly is so awesome!
@alessandroteixeiraneto1532
@alessandroteixeiraneto1532 Жыл бұрын
Amazing! Congratulations to all the Team!
@johnharding9777
@johnharding9777 Жыл бұрын
I love that in spite of being designed on a computer and tested in the same manner, tufts of wool are still the best indication of keeping airflow smooth and laminar.
@Robs_Reef
@Robs_Reef Жыл бұрын
Cool Jet without tons of advertising, this could actually be a successful plane company for the first time in forever
@clqudy4750
@clqudy4750 Жыл бұрын
Another impressive and successful test flight! Eventually work on getting it to self- fold into a briefcase...then we'll officially be in the future!
@soysoybaby
@soysoybaby Жыл бұрын
Well done team Lilium!!
@Wolf88888
@Wolf88888 Жыл бұрын
So exciting! How cool is that!
@dr.phelps
@dr.phelps Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for not putting stupid action music over the whole thing!
@bobthebike7538
@bobthebike7538 Жыл бұрын
Magic. All the technology in the world and we still can't beat a bit of string as an airflow indicator
@Orozco_PNW
@Orozco_PNW Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal work, keep it up, Lilium! This is the future we've all been waiting for!
@Bizob2010
@Bizob2010 Жыл бұрын
Congrats Lilium! Amazing work & an amazing design!
@colinpalmer9070
@colinpalmer9070 Жыл бұрын
So cool to see this beautiful machine in action. Keep posting these progress videos. Cannot wait for the sky to be filled with these.
@Tom_Quixote
@Tom_Quixote Жыл бұрын
That sounds terrible.
@83btm
@83btm Жыл бұрын
Forever is a long time to wait.
@AceNinja2112
@AceNinja2112 Жыл бұрын
Vertical Takeoff from Home and Vertical Landing at Work! Now I can fly over LA traffic!!! I'm sold!!!
@syntaxed2
@syntaxed2 Жыл бұрын
Kudos to the guy who taped all those strings to the plane
@paulglover5359
@paulglover5359 Жыл бұрын
It is great to see laminar flow over both the main wing as well as the canard in cruise, as well as (at least in appearance) of smooth transition in all flight realms.
@Awol991
@Awol991 Жыл бұрын
Seems to me the canard has turbulent flow most of the time with what looks like a fairly high angle of attack on the thruster/aileron. There might be some fore and aft balancing to be done to reduce the front weight.
@frankyflowers
@frankyflowers Жыл бұрын
turbulent flow.
@johngriswold2956
@johngriswold2956 Жыл бұрын
@@Awol991 Also, can this thing glide in for an un-powered landing? It looked like if it didn't have powered lift, those canards would be substantially stalled in low speed flight (significant controllability concern). And the landing gear doesn't look like it could handle forward flight landing loads... or even a rapid trip across the grocery store parking lot. Don't get me wrong, this is cool. But there are a lot of new failure modes that need to be mitigated before customer delivery.
@jasmijnariel
@jasmijnariel Жыл бұрын
1:20 crazy how stable those markers are on those rear parts😳🤯
@zachisbell7617
@zachisbell7617 Жыл бұрын
watching the markers stabilize at 1:32 immediately after they stop climbing is also super cool
@RobertFletcherOBE
@RobertFletcherOBE Жыл бұрын
they''re called telltails :). They've been used to tweak airflow since the age of sail
@jasmijnariel
@jasmijnariel Жыл бұрын
@@RobertFletcherOBE i know why they are used. I fly Rc planes myself and i experimented with a lot of wingprofiles on gliders too. So its nessecary to know whats going on with the airflow
@Darcorp
@Darcorp Жыл бұрын
Great tufting work! Love seeing the actuation of the wings in real time.
@LostAnFound
@LostAnFound 6 ай бұрын
For those of you thinking this looks like a bumpy ride, this is. But, that has nothing to do with the aircraft. Flying low over the uneven earth of rolling vineyards is like riding a bucking bronco when you're in a single like a 172 or a Saratoga . . . especially on approach. Lilium is absolutely knocking it out of the park.
@graysonridge4080
@graysonridge4080 Жыл бұрын
This is a truly remarkable aircraft. A work of art!
@cliddily
@cliddily Жыл бұрын
She really can move it! More please!
@Robert-rv9qg
@Robert-rv9qg Жыл бұрын
Love it, well done everyone!!
@whileysea
@whileysea Жыл бұрын
Bravo. Genial. No matter with or without Flyers, Display, Weight etc. This is an incredible new invention
@EarthCreature.
@EarthCreature. Жыл бұрын
Awesome AF!! Can't wait to see these in our skies.
@stevenbalderstone709
@stevenbalderstone709 Жыл бұрын
Congrats on achieving this milestone. One question: is the frequent micro-vectoring of thrust in S&L (straight and level flight) due to the lack of trim adjustment?
@kiwidiesel
@kiwidiesel Жыл бұрын
I wasn't able to identify any trim tabs as in conventional aircraft so possible it requires the micro adjustments for trim and they appear to act as the entire control surface also.
@McPebbster
@McPebbster Жыл бұрын
Might be more of a fly-by-wire trim. Commercial airliners don’t have trim tabs either.
@luks7305
@luks7305 Жыл бұрын
@@McPebbster some do, dash8 and some regional aircraft use mechanical trim tabs for flight controls
@BrucelLloyd
@BrucelLloyd Жыл бұрын
@@McPebbster 737 have trim tabs and full moving elevators.
@Jet-Pack
@Jet-Pack Жыл бұрын
Congrats! I have a technical question: Why is the upper surface of the engine cowling not curved like the top of an airfoil? There seem to be a lot of flow separation going on, with a more curved upper surface + some vortex generators perhaps the total lift may be increased and the drag reduced in the transitional phase.
@Ikaros---
@Ikaros--- Жыл бұрын
probably because it's optimised for forward flight. having a curved surface on the cowling would increase performance at high angles of attack but would create a higher frontal cross section at low angles of attack. Considering takeoff and landing are probably going to be a small percentage of total flight time, it might not be worth it.
@Jet-Pack
@Jet-Pack Жыл бұрын
@@Ikaros--- Correct me if I'm wrong, didn't they already travel at cruise speed in this test? There still was a lot of flow separation happening, even at that relatively low angle of attack. Especially when power is limited, i.e. though battery failure or electric power interruptions it could mean a few extra Newtons of valuable lift.
@Ikaros---
@Ikaros--- Жыл бұрын
@@Jet-Pack at 1:45 to 1:55 you can see the optimal flow conditions for both front and rear wings at cruise speed, seems pretty stable to me. while transitioning to hovering the flat surface could act as an aerobrake, making vertical landings a lot easier as it requires less space to decelerate. Any extra lift you'd gain from the cowling would only be effective during this transition period where the engines are pointing around 45 degrees. This might be good for short takeoffs or during a sudden loss of power, but would reduce overall range at max cruising speed. While in vertical flight at around 5:00, you can see there is stable flow around the cowlings. adding an airfoil would possibly affect the intake air flow. The flat cowlings should provide extra thrust in this mode like a high bypass turbofan, compared to airfoils which might disrupt the thrust vector by curling air around the engine and into the exhaust.
@louisvanrijn3964
@louisvanrijn3964 Жыл бұрын
Indeed , we see a lot of separated flow on the canard. Not bothering about trust, the drag increase is a point. I tested the effect, see : kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ-6lHScesp4nac With attached flow the glider sinks 1.3 m/s. In partitially stalled condition : 4 m/s. Three times the drag is generated by a 50% separated flow. I estimated that the stalled canard (in most of the flight conditions, except full speed flight) reduces the battery endurance with 25%. The upper lip of the canard has to be bent down (droop nose), or equipped with vortex generators, as demonstrated.
@glueautomation-solutioneng3609
@glueautomation-solutioneng3609 Жыл бұрын
Good question. I believe the cowling is optimised for engine airflow. Not lift. The front part of the wing provides sufficient lift.
@simonbaxter8001
@simonbaxter8001 Жыл бұрын
Nice flight! Be interesting to see the glide performance in forward flight if those fans stopped (i.e. as a safety case in the even of power loss) ... I seems it would be like hanging 2 barn doors in the airflow. And, I wonder how reliant the authority of the ailerons and canards is on the fans being powered, as opposed to stopped/failed?
@bigjoer6887
@bigjoer6887 Жыл бұрын
Ditto
@tomsherwood4650
@tomsherwood4650 Жыл бұрын
@@bigjoer6887 I dunno, do the blades freeze or freewheel without power?
@Durnyful
@Durnyful Жыл бұрын
Not sure that would be a pretty sight. I would guess there's redundancy so some motors can be lost etc.
@simonbaxter8001
@simonbaxter8001 Жыл бұрын
@@tomsherwood4650 Depends on the failure mode of the electrics. If the motor has a dead short on their supply, then they will be locked or very hard to windmill!
@stevenmoomey2115
@stevenmoomey2115 Жыл бұрын
The Aircraft has 30 Engines. Probably multiple batteries, I think a few failures wouldn’t result in a crash. At a Failure point it may not be able to do a VTOL Landing, but could probably do a runway landing.
@bradh74
@bradh74 Жыл бұрын
I can see these flying in the future for sure. Great concept! Ideas like this will bring us into the 21st century for sure. Can't wait to see how things work out, maybe with great avionics it will make licensing easier for the average person to obtain. With a folding wing you could park this in a garage.
@tahustvedt
@tahustvedt Жыл бұрын
Very cool. I wonde what the energy consumption is at cruise.
@janoshorvath9430
@janoshorvath9430 Жыл бұрын
Congrats, and thanks for sharing! I wonder if thiskind of terrain is ideal for low level test flights in case of emergency landing.
@Ink_25
@Ink_25 Жыл бұрын
Well, it's a big orchard, there's enough space between the trees to rescue crew but also a good chance of the trees catching the aircraft and dampening its crash, so I would say it couldn't be better
@irusev
@irusev Жыл бұрын
@Lilium What a great flying machine! I just bought some shares :) it is beaten down quite a bit! Looking at the progress of the flight tests and the flying concept I think the stock will be a massive winner within 10 years.
@avigator
@avigator Жыл бұрын
The challenge is not flight dynamics and flight control of a drone like in this video. The challenge is energy efficiency of a commercial passenger transport.
@tjroebot
@tjroebot Жыл бұрын
Or they could be the next virgin galactic, who truly knows?
@irusev
@irusev Жыл бұрын
@@avigator I think It is way more efficient than any other VTOL aircraft. It is well-positioned to take on a niche of close and medium-distance human and maybe cargo transport
@irusev
@irusev Жыл бұрын
@@tjroebot Possible, but I can take a chance. Not all in, but a solid bet:)
@avigator
@avigator Жыл бұрын
@@tjroebot Aerospace engineers know, that Lilium’s promise can not be fulfilled with today’s or tomorrow’s batteries. 🪫
@kevin-haggerty
@kevin-haggerty Жыл бұрын
This is what I’ve been waiting to see as far as future travel.
@jaredmcfadden7793
@jaredmcfadden7793 Жыл бұрын
One of the coolest things I’ve seen in a long time
@hitchhikerfromspace8279
@hitchhikerfromspace8279 Жыл бұрын
Why no flight data?
@I-0-0-I
@I-0-0-I Жыл бұрын
This is truly awesome. I have watched it a few times in a row now. My nerd question is: what are the failure modes of the thrust vectoring system? Say an actuator goes bad, etc.
@jn-ny8bh
@jn-ny8bh Жыл бұрын
My guess is redundancy to reduce the chances of that happening. Same with conventional aircraft
@louisvanrijn3964
@louisvanrijn3964 Жыл бұрын
Good question however. Redundancy and independency of propulsion/lift units must be the answer. The Me 323 had 6 (allthough unreliable) engines. It was called: The best 5 engined aircraft in the world, by the crews. If you loose 16% that is to oversee...The Lillium has more engines... I wonder what the stall-speed would be (making an aircraft landing) if I had only 50% power left.
@ReflectedMiles
@ReflectedMiles Жыл бұрын
@@louisvanrijn3964 I think seeing the numbers in an emergency, no-power condition, landing might be instructive.
@zakksrage
@zakksrage Жыл бұрын
Just ask the osprey program… which isn’t even nearly as complicated as this system.
@withoutwroeirs
@withoutwroeirs Жыл бұрын
Failure mode: loss of thrust. Or worse, un-commanded thrust. I'm sure they've looked at that. Loss of thrust on 1 of n engines on port or starboard is the real question. Such a failure could lead to a hazardous event that would need to be determined in terms of probability in accordance with ARP 4761. The best approach to understanding this risk is particular risk analysis, perhaps even an Monto Carlo simulation to understand if the order of failure is important.
@AnotherPointOfView944
@AnotherPointOfView944 Жыл бұрын
Impressive. I wonder how you have designed for different weather conditions (rain, hail, snow), or will it be a fair weather flyer?
@Mike588
@Mike588 Жыл бұрын
A high speed fly over the runway would have been a nice touch, this would give some good perspective of a fly by.
@user-iv2yc9yt7j
@user-iv2yc9yt7j Жыл бұрын
Nice professional clean video, clear natural sound without music, good work, keep going. Remember that consumers are looking for small VTOL suitable for personal use without an airport or runways.
@katzevordempc
@katzevordempc Жыл бұрын
Ob Lilium mit Passagiere/Ladung seine 300km Reichweite packen wird, bin gespannt... aber gefühlt ist Lilum seit 3 Jahren auf dem gleichen Stand.
@ammogoettsch
@ammogoettsch Жыл бұрын
Except for the stock price, yes :)
@sigma1217
@sigma1217 Жыл бұрын
This is pretty awesome. I do wonder what control redundancies are and what the glide slope is like should the batteries give out?
@vijilant
@vijilant Жыл бұрын
There is no glide slope and it would crash, redundancy is created by the sheer number of fans, and I believe the batteries are in several isolated compartments which can take over from each other. Flight computers are also redundant, and there's a ballistic chute too. The problems with the design are less in safety and more in efficiency. It's VTOL endurance is awful compared to equivalent competitors with full size props.
@sigma1217
@sigma1217 Жыл бұрын
@@vijilant Good insights, thank you.
@quillmaurer6563
@quillmaurer6563 Жыл бұрын
Quite impressive - this video shows what many wouldn't have believed possible just a few years ago! One question - how loud is it? The ducted fans and design of the nacelles look like they're designed to reduce noise as much as possible.
@ThatOpalGuy
@ThatOpalGuy Жыл бұрын
Probably 90 dB or higher.
@raphilan5949
@raphilan5949 Жыл бұрын
Why do you think they don't release any Info on that? And why the testvideos are always silent or somewhat silenced? Because these stupid small fans are crazy loud. Nobody wants such a thing buzzing above their head! Imagine hundreds of them flying above a city. Nobody wants them. This vehicle wont solve any transportation problem. This will be - if it ever enters the market - a gadget for rich people flying to their golf course and bragging about how fancy and "environmentally friendly" of an aircraft they can show off...
@quillmaurer6563
@quillmaurer6563 Жыл бұрын
@@raphilan5949 It's hard to tell how loud something is in a video unless there are other things of known loudness to compare, and in-flight videos would have a ton of wind noise even if attached to the outside of a glider. Just having the noise turned down or muted in videos doesn't tell us all that much. I agree that it is likely to be obnoxiously loud though, and that will be a major problem for their widespread adoption. Even regardless of that issue, I'm skeptical of the "flying taxi" concept, something that has been proposed and discussed for many decades. This new class of vehicles makes it a little more plausible from a technical perspective but I'm still doubtful of it's feasibility from a regulatory, safety, cost, and noise perspective. More what I anticipate this and various other similar vehicles currently in development doing is replacing helicopters in some functions, as they have some advantages over them. Things like search-and-rescue, medevac, military, and like you say executive and rich-person transport.
@Nill757
@Nill757 Жыл бұрын
Why is this impressive? Several non commercial short range aircraft out there flying for the years now.
@farrie201
@farrie201 Жыл бұрын
Thought this was het clickbait video from the thumbnail but im pleasantly suprised to see its real!
@nippon2003
@nippon2003 Жыл бұрын
What a flying art. Thanks for creating this spectacular aircraft !!! This video is extremely motivational to me. I want to spend my life to fly air/space crafts that I worked on as design engineer. Im planning to take engineering major in university, take courses+self taught other essential skills and team work experience in engineering then gonna try entrepreneurship and hopefully go to flight school. I’ve started as a toddler with a pen, drawing flying machines, making paper models… We did not born with wings but we reached altitudes that no birds could have imagined. We born as aviators !
@CyberSQUID9000
@CyberSQUID9000 Жыл бұрын
Amazing! Seems like alot of torque on the wings when the edf pods move , wouldn't be much fun in bad weather but I'm guessing. Could you use truss braced wing design similar to Boeing's ?
@Shadowhurtz
@Shadowhurtz Жыл бұрын
I love how you can see it hit cruise speed as the streamers all become super stable
@sammyspaniel6054
@sammyspaniel6054 Жыл бұрын
You guys are checking all of the boxes. Love it!
@SAMZIRRA
@SAMZIRRA Жыл бұрын
I am just a random viewer imploring you to share this awesome video with everyone, this is top notch❤
@rihardsgrislis
@rihardsgrislis Жыл бұрын
Well done! 👏🏼 Some screen information like speed, altitude would be great for these demo videos. Something similar to SpaceX launches.
@rcnitro001
@rcnitro001 Жыл бұрын
Well after looking at the full video is see that the surface I thought was flat is actually open. Nice build.
@SAMZIRRA
@SAMZIRRA Жыл бұрын
Well the UFO phenomenon makes quite a bit more sense when you see something like this :) This is really cool whoever made this. Video is great too! No talking, just wind passing by, love love love this video!❤
@sparky3713
@sparky3713 Жыл бұрын
I saw a version of this a Osh Kosh a few years back. All they would do was a take off and landing. Glad to see they are improving. Cool design.
@locoslococo
@locoslococo Жыл бұрын
Amazing seeing all the trees that have been planted in the area..
@sunside79334
@sunside79334 3 ай бұрын
awesome on every level. neat aircraft, good pilot and over 5 minutes of pure uninterupted flight without BS. wd.
@nallanosbor
@nallanosbor Жыл бұрын
Pros to mister Remote who has done an amazing job risking his life piloting this Lilith Jet.
@compassft
@compassft Жыл бұрын
I am following Lilium Company till its birth (many years ago, isn't it?) and I am glad to see they are getting closer and closer to their objective....let's hope they will take into account my fidelity and will consider to make me a discount when I will purchase one of their jets 😆
@MrCaveman74
@MrCaveman74 Жыл бұрын
That landing was the stuff of Sci-Fi visions. I'm here for it!!
@andrewking6604
@andrewking6604 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the uninterrupted ( without any stupid music ) views if the flight. Well done
@cotneit
@cotneit Жыл бұрын
Designers: How many engines do you need to fit on this thing? Engineers: Yes
@Josh-99
@Josh-99 Жыл бұрын
This is our flying car, right? VTOL takeoff and landing, easy to control, quiet, two person capacity. The learning curve between this and a fixed-wing aircraft is DRAMATICALLY less just on account of not having to learn takeoff and landing maneuvers. Also, VTOL capability means you can set down almost anywhere in an emergency. I know we have along way to go still, but I see technology like this as bringing aviation to the masses.
@frankyboy1131
@frankyboy1131 Жыл бұрын
Capacity unknown, range unknown, speed 136 knots (as they released themselves), longest flight shown about five minutes... Well, judge yourself.
@Josh-99
@Josh-99 Жыл бұрын
@@frankyboy1131 Uh, yeah. It's clearly a prototype and not ready for mass production. There's all kinds of practical and legal impediments in the way, obviously. But this is how we get to great societal shifts: rough starts and small increments. Go take a look at the plane the Wright brothers used for their first flight, as an example.
@JohnnyWednesday
@JohnnyWednesday Жыл бұрын
Well done! it's a very cool aircraft - I hope testing continues to go well
@justindastar
@justindastar Жыл бұрын
i'm more impressed by the size of those fields. the scale of farming is insane.
@octavicolom4562
@octavicolom4562 Жыл бұрын
That is part ofsouthern spain where 25% or more of the olive oil in the world is produced! It is quite an experience to drive around
@dointube2
@dointube2 Жыл бұрын
WOW! i'm so amazed that there is such a large flow separation on those canard wings during the flight. Amazing to watch where the flow sep occurs on the rear aileron/engines also.
@danielv7983
@danielv7983 Жыл бұрын
Seems to me like the aircraft not conpletely balanced, i.e. requires additional lift from the canard jets, which causes the aoa of the jets to exceed bounds inducing separation..maybe a more bulky low pressure side/add some nozzles in the leading edge to create additional coanda effect locally? Or adress the balance..
@joham8179
@joham8179 Жыл бұрын
I like the squishy things, I think they look neat! great design choice for this aircraft, I wish commercial planes would add those as well to add a little spark for the eye
@rstats2127
@rstats2127 Жыл бұрын
Wow the airflow on the wing was rock solid
@Clarence_13x
@Clarence_13x Жыл бұрын
I like how you can see the transition between laminar flow of fixed wing flight and turbulent flow of multi rotor flight
@watchguy7986
@watchguy7986 Жыл бұрын
Nice! I love aviation hobbyists. Keep up the good work and the dream, looks a bit rigid. Not bad for a garage build prototype! Good job guys 👏
@watchguy7986
@watchguy7986 Жыл бұрын
@@sg-yq8pm wow…… from the look of their rig they don’t seem to know what the fuck they are doing. They left about a 3 or 4 hundred worms or strings on the plane. That is not very aerodynamic. You’d think they’d wipe that shut off you know what I mean ?
@Nill757
@Nill757 Жыл бұрын
@@sg-yq8pm Expensive hobby then. Has no possibility of commercial certification with this range, this altitude ceiling, this noise level. What they do have are buckets of green money grants, from people who profit from “look at me I’m boldly funding green something”.
@83btm
@83btm Жыл бұрын
@@Nill757 Nailed it.
@paul_wiggin
@paul_wiggin Жыл бұрын
This one is an service engineers nightmare.. Imagine pre-flight check of all those engines :D
@ComeonmenID10T
@ComeonmenID10T Жыл бұрын
very good concept with safety build in, due to several engines in each spot
@drakemayer9197
@drakemayer9197 Жыл бұрын
Its so satisfying seeing all of the telltales go straight
@o_manam
@o_manam Жыл бұрын
I've never seen an airplane wing with telltales on it, cool! What an amazing aircraft.
@arthouston7361
@arthouston7361 Жыл бұрын
First, we need a cool name for those thrust sections. Engerons? Aelerets? Flets? Throds? Motorons? Second…the yarn makes for a great lesson in how angle of attack affects air flow over a wing or control surface. The turbulent separation is as obvious as the smooth laminar flow. I want to see how those moveable parts are being controlled!
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