That’s what these new age steering wheel holders need to take their road test on! An old Mack or a Brockway with twin clubs ,no air ride seat,and Armstrong steering!,,,, God Bless America!
@dustinfurness2155 Жыл бұрын
It would be nice to know how but 18 gears on one stick is the most anyone would reasonably have to deal with. It should be required that they at least know how to drive manual but a lot of companies are caving and buying automatic so a lot of people getting their CDL took notice and made the “problem” worse by ensuring that they aren’t even allowed to drive a 7 speed much less deal with shifting two transmissions at the same time. These twin sticks also have a lot of pointless gear ratios like for 5+4 you shift 1+1, 2+1, 1+2, 1+3, 1+4, 2+2, 2+3, 2+4, 3+2, 3+3, 3+4, 4+2, 4+3, 5+3, 5+4 where the first number is the main box and the second in the auxiliary or “brownie” and in 6+4 it’s 1+1, 1+2, 1+3, 1+4, 2+2, 2+3, 2+4, 3+2, 3+3, 3+4, 4+2, 4+3, 5+3, 6+3, 6+4. You have 20 ratios on 5+4 but you only use 14 of them and 24 on 6+4 but only use 15 of them. Give me an 18 speed any day. More used ratios hauling 155,000 pounds, fewer sticks to deal with, and you don’t have to worry about the auxiliary getting stuck or a double neutral situation. For 5+4 the 14 ratios actually used are 13.8:1, 7.94:1, 6.52:1, 5.45:1, 4.55:1, 3.74:1, 3.13:1, 2.61:1, 2.1:1, 1.76:1, 1.47:1, 1.2:1, 1:1, 0.84:1, 0.7:1. There is a lot of overlap with these. 6+4 in order if you actually shifted all 24 is 11.9:1 in 1+1, 9.29:1 in 1+2, 7.49:1 in 1+3, 6.49:1 in 2+1, 6.07:1 in 1+4, 5.06:1 in 2+2, 4.08:1 in 2+3, 3.56:1 in 3+1, 3.3:1 in 2+4, 2.78:1 in 3+2, 2.24:1 in 3+3, 1.97:1 in 4+1, 1.81 in 3+4, 1.59:1 in 5+1, 1.54:1 in 4+2, 1.34:1 in 6+1, 4+3 and 5+2 are both 1.24:1, 6+2 is 1.04:1, 4+4 is 1.004:1, 5+3 is 1:1, 6+3 is 0.84:1, 5+4 is 0.81:1, and 6+4 is 0.68:1. That’s why you skip auxiliary low everything but 1st gear, overdrive on 4, the auxiliary shifts completely on 5, and once in 6 you only have one faster ratio caused by dropping the auxiliary in 4. 11.9:1, 9.29:1, 7.49:1, 6.07:1, 5.06:1, 4.08:1, 3.3:1, 2.78:1, 2.24:1, 1.81:1, 1.54:1, 1.24:1, 1:1, 0.84:1, 0.68:1. 15 used ratios. Compared to 18 speed. Low Low 14.4:1, Low High 12.29:1, 1 Low 8.56:1, 1 High 7.3:1, 2 Low 6.05:1, 2 High 5.16:1, 3 Low 4.38:1, 3 High 3.74:1, 4 Low 3.2:1, 4 High 2.73:1, (go to high range) 5 Low 2.29:1, 5 High 1.95:1, 6 Low 1.62:1, 6 High 1.38:1, 7 Low 1.17:1, 7 High 1:1, 8 Low 0.86:1, 8 High 0.73:1. Shifting all 18 there is no overlap. You don’t have to split low range unless you’re 120,000+, you don’t have to split any of them if you’re 80,000 or less, you don’t need Low unless you’re heavy, you don’t need 1st unless you are loaded, and you can even skip 2nd and maybe* 3rd if you are bobtail. *If you skip 3rd, the same H pattern position as Low but in high range is the same ratio as 4 in Low range. Only 5 gears used if you do this but be careful because it’ll launch pretty hard and you’d be better off taking off in 3rd and shifting only 6 gears splitter high the whole way.
@bertgrau393410 ай бұрын
@@dustinfurness2155 You didn't mention the tri plex, where with it, you have 15 gears, and all are usable. In the days those were popular, they were needed. Low horsepower/Torque ment you needed lots of gears just to get a truck moving. Personally I liked the 5+4 as you said it had a lot of unusable gears. However, with both transmissions in low gear, it was easy to move just about any load. Today, we have big horsepower and Torque so there's no need for those kinds of transmissions. I put a lot of miles on trucks with 2 shifters. Today a 10 speed can do as good a job as most 13, or 18 speeds can. For heavy haul I too would prefer either a 13, or 18. It isn't a big job to make a 13 into an 18 either.
@dustinfurness215510 ай бұрын
@@bertgrau3934 Yea. There were a couple different triplex transmissions and at least one of them you’d have access to all 15 different gear ratios without doing something stupid like shifting the auxiliary to 2 then back to 1 to shift the main to 2 then after that shift the auxiliary to 2 then the main to 3 and the auxiliary to 1 to return to 1 in the main and 3 in the auxiliary. At least one of the triplex transmissions was as simple as from 1 in the main shift all 3 in the auxiliary then shift to 2 in the main and repeat all 3 in the auxiliary then 3 in the main and all 3 in the auxiliary and so on. The 5+4 “20 speed” was more like a 5+4 “18 speed” but with one set of ratios it was 2, 3, and 4 in the auxiliary (Lo, Direct, OverDrive or something to that effect) where another you’d only shift the 3rd and 4th auxiliary in the “20 speed” where the “18 speed” also consisted of at least 2 combinations but for neither of them would you actually use all 18 gears and in both of them the 2 gear positions the instructions told you not to use were within .01 of what they were in 4th gear but in one faster position in the auxiliary or something with 5 Lo Lo being something like in between 3 Lo and 3 Direct so you wouldn’t use that gear either. It wound up being for the “18 speed” use Lo Lo only in 1st gear (you could also use 2 Lo Lo before 1 Lo but that’s just too much work) and then ignore Lo Lo as you use all 3 of the other auxiliary positions in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gear and then oops gotta skip 2 of those in 5th because they are actually slower than the gear you are shifting out of so you just leave the auxiliary in overdrive as you shift from 4th to 5th. 4+3+3+3+1 auxiliary positions each gear or the “18 speed” was really like a 14 speed with an optional 15th gear at 2 Lo Lo that was slower than 1 Lo while the 20 speed added either 1 or 2 gears depending on whether you use 5 Lo or not. 15/16 speed “20 speed” transmission. If they were to do something like put a splitter on a modern 10 speed that has 34-35% “jumps” and make that splitter a 17-17.5% reduction or increase (depending on whether they went the RTO18 or RTOO13 route) then you’d have a truly usable 20 speed. Then Spicer came up with something that’s basically a super super 10 speed with 4 splits per gear. For their 14, 16, and 18 this was fine with the 18 skipping 2 of them in 5th, the 16 skipping 2 in 4th and 5th each, and the 14 using only the slowest 2 splits in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd and all 4 in 4th and 5th. Not for the 20 though that could have easily been designed as a 4 way splitter all 5 but instead they went the way of 2 for off road and 2 for on highway for every gear with some serious overlap like 5 low on the off road was in between the highway splits for 4th gear. Obviously you wouldn’t shift that way (3 splits 1st, back to 2nd for lo lo, back to first for high, back to 2nd for the middle splits, to third for the lowest split to 2nd for the highest split back to third for the middle splits, etc) as that would be the same problem we run into trying to shift all 4 on the auxiliary in every single main gear in a 6+4 put in the proper sequence from slowest to fastest or like a modern “15 speed” where 3rd on the deep reduction was faster than 1st gear with deep reduction turned off making a modern “15 speed” a 12 speed the way the spicer “20” was actually a 12 speed and the Mack “20” was really only 16 or 17 used gears or the “24 speed 6+4” also itself could only be 15 gears double overdrive skipping auxiliary shifts from 4th gear to 6th gear before dropping the auxiliary in overdrive too or you could switch out the auxiliary and make it more like a 14 speed single overdrive with the direct drive 6 speed but where you only used two positions in the auxiliary for every single gear except 1st where you could use all 4. I looked into a lot of these gear ratios and shift patterns. Twin sticks could be configured to use all of the gear ratios or to have them overlap and cross at weird places. The spicer 20 with 4 position air splitter wasn’t really a 20 speed in the sense that the spicer 14, 16, and 18 speeds were. Then there’s the ZF transmissions that look like they are trying to copy the Eaton Fuller 18 but they did it weird like the 16 didn’t have Low so it was just 4 low, 4 high, split all 8 for 16. The 12 was the same concept but then it was 3 low and 3 high where you could have a 12+2 which is basically a 14 speed but they give you a 2 speed creeper like in the 18 speed that the 16 speed ZF leaves out. Then there’s that weird 13 speed 3 position splitter Eaton that was like shift 1-2-3 in Low, 1-2-3-4-5 in direct, and 1-2-3-4-5 in high before they switched to a 9 speed (5 low, 4 high) where you could only split the 4 gears in high range and why not split all 9 gears and suddenly 18 speed with a pattern like the ZF 16 in terms of which gears you’ll use 90% of the time plus that really slow gear that winds up being roughly 4 low split if you put the splitter in high and the range selector in high at the same time before putting the shifter stick into the Low hole or where a typical 9 speed has 4th gear in low range and high range low hole as basically the same gear ratio such that you skip one or the other leaving you with 9 instead of 10. Mack tells you to skip the last low range gear and Eaton tells you to skip the first high range gear but it seems like all of the manufacturers went the Eaton pattern when they added 13-18 to their lineups.
@Retired88M9 ай бұрын
Looks like this one has the 15 speed tri-plex from the way he was only grabbing 3 gears on the 2nd stick
@bertgrau39349 ай бұрын
@@Retired88M I think the gentleman said somewhere in the video that it was a tri plex. I could be wrong. The thing is even if it is a 5 X 4, you would only need the 15 gears he was using.
@pointingdog72354 жыл бұрын
B Model is beautiful and the best twin stick shifting I've seen in awhile. Imagine climbing a mountain grade with a full load on that's when the fun really comes. But this man is obviously an exceptional driver.
@danschneider99215 жыл бұрын
My grandfather tried to teach me on a old 62 Emeryville. Never could get the downshift quite right. Those old guys were the best true truckers
@HB-of6hq2 жыл бұрын
Surprised anyone knew what an Emeryville was. 😂
@bertgrau393410 ай бұрын
I never drove an Emeryville, but I did drive a 1966 GMC Crackerbox, 238 horsepower Detroit 5 speed overdrive with a 2 speed drive axle at 2100 RPM speed was 53 MPH.
@vincebowling17787 жыл бұрын
Best twin stick shifting I've watched yet. He was smooth even on the downshifts. Like someone said earlier....a lost art
@otherdog595 жыл бұрын
you should check out the "Twin Stick Pappy" video some time.
@FerrickOxhide5 жыл бұрын
Lazy, one stick at a time. Ride with a guy that makes a compound shift with both hands at once sometime.
@bobbeck59475 жыл бұрын
@@FerrickOxhide no need for the 2 hand speed bobtailing,,,,,,,. loaded is a different story all together!! 2 hands are a MUST!!
@FerrickOxhide5 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I drove a DM607 SX with a 73000GVW for a while. 180 Thermodyne. First OD to second UD and second OD to third UD were shifts that had to be made. I could cheat the rest.
@thefallenone91494 жыл бұрын
Most kids don't even know what a manual transmission is let alone how to drive one
@vcummins6 жыл бұрын
The best anti theft system ever. The transmission is basically the security system.
@randomdude92694 жыл бұрын
@Empty Head It's actually pretty simple. You get the feeling after some time.
@danielseelye60052 жыл бұрын
@@randomdude9269 Save for the fact that the kid trying to jack it would most likely never worked a manual, let alone a twinstick.
@ernestpassaro96632 жыл бұрын
He’s using the clutch I never did driving one!
@HB-of6hq2 жыл бұрын
Not for someone who grew up in one. 😂
@ernestpassaro96632 жыл бұрын
Screw that I drove them would rather have power steering and ac with an 18 speed manual transmission and a 625 hp Cummins engine !
@itbigboy19843 жыл бұрын
I've drove a few and this man makes it look simple, Sir your a credit to all truckers!
@1940limited7 ай бұрын
It's not bad once you get to kno0w what you're doing.
@pdc.1508RedDevil.6 жыл бұрын
Love that sound and those older Mack's are beautiful trucks.
@dieselfan74062 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for the exhaust brake noise but it never happened!
@Mr_b_yorkshire_farmer5 жыл бұрын
Credit to the owner. The wagon looks stunning. I love the colour. As for the gear changing it’s nice to see it been done at lower revs and just rubbing them in. It still amazes me how this gear box ever took off as you wait for the over run to get the gear , then you drop back down anther three. I feel like I am missing a technique to over come this problem.
@bertgrau393410 ай бұрын
Some drivers would shift both sticks at the same time. It would speed things up. It also made missing a gear easier as well.
@rugerscout3085 жыл бұрын
For me it was always harder when someone was riding with me, let alone getting it on video. Of course there is a reason Mack came out with the 237 hp Maxidyne in 1966. It had a use able torque range from 1200 to 2100 rpm. Truck engines prior to that had a torque range from around 1700 to 2100. When you have twice the torque (use able power) you need half the number of gears to get down the road. I loved driving the Maxidyne. Having driven B models like this for years or 290 Cummins it just seemed so effortless to drive. This is a very pretty truck that's for sure.
@Retired88M2 жыл бұрын
I drove a 73 single axle F model Mack sleeper cab that originally had the 237 Maxidyne with the 5 speed Maxitorque . It was great to drive except when it snowed. You had to drive with a feather foot or else you’d break your traction unless your were grossed out then it would just keep digging and pulling. When the engine blew # 5’s rod out the side of the block it was replaced with an older non turbo 673 Thermodyne that you couldn’t lug down like the 237 so their solution was a Roadranger 910 ten speed to keep the RPM’s up. This was a tired piece of iron that was eventually replaced with another rebuilt 237. Now this was a nice setup. Drive it like a 5 speed getting going then split to the high side and motor down the road
@joshuabogese6376 Жыл бұрын
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@chuckiefinster5445 жыл бұрын
Best shifting video I've seen. Totally relaxed, the others rush it trying to show off or something
@frankbroker36983 жыл бұрын
Best two stick shifting I have seen on YT so far. When I was a kid, I thought "two sticks, two hands". But I learned from the best driver I ever knew...you only need one hand. Keep it smooth, listen to your rpms and she will shift like butter. Just remember to square off your brownie shifts to avoid getting it in a bind.
@steves80143 жыл бұрын
Beautiful truck and most shifts without using the clutch. There's a man who knows how to drive old trucks. I rode in those as a kid--thanks.
@SternDrive7 жыл бұрын
I have driven those Mack double shift 5 & 3 trucks. There's not many around anymore. My last one was 43 years ago. I knew a guy who bent his sticks just right and could shift both at once with his finger tips and no clutch. It is a lost art.
@bobmarshall17497 жыл бұрын
right on. bend the shafts just right and one hand will do it
@robertloewen78465 жыл бұрын
My Dad did several million miles on b61s Always talked about bending the sticks to just the right spot.
@georgeotaka1092 жыл бұрын
simple to use , easy to understand , tons of gears (without need of 3 sticks) , great reliability and dirty cheap to make/produce compared to modern auto/semi auto/air powered/electicaly powerd etc , with 50+ sensors that practicaly nobody needs . Very good video , perfect gearbox , exellent driver !!!
@buick19555 жыл бұрын
More amazing than any new truck on the road . A real Jewel .
@skeetersaurus62498 жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful old Mack! Tri-plex was a good set-up, too - just the right amount of gearing, haven't seen too many single axle cabs like that before.
@HrLBolle Жыл бұрын
almost all tractors over here in DE are 2x4
@bertgrau3934 Жыл бұрын
Skeeter, Back in the 50s and early 60s lots of trucks were single drive axle. In the northeast a few dump trailers had 3 axles. Could max out weight that way. I prefer a twin screw myself. I have driven a truck with a single drive axle and tag axle, really don't like those, easy to get stuck.
@type2drvr505 жыл бұрын
Great job shifting. What a beautiful rig. My buddy drove one of those back in the early 70s hauling eggs.
@aaronking73265 жыл бұрын
Its a pleasure to watch this....I used to watch my Dad shifting, no grinding. Just like this man, smooth as silk
@2wagondragon5 жыл бұрын
Both shift towers are nice and tight. Most of the two stickers I drove back in the day were so worn, you had to chase the sticks all over the cab.
@jimwilloughby4 жыл бұрын
That's true. I used to drive a B-61, with a 5 and a 2. It had a by guess and by golly transmission. " By guess that should be 3rd low, by golly I was right."
@jerrykinnin79413 жыл бұрын
I had an old 69 ford. The clip that held,the sick in the top of the trans was broke. So you had to drive around with your hand on the,shifter all day. So i asked my wife to scratch my nose. She said NO. So i handed her the gearshifter. It was hilarious.
@2wagondragon3 жыл бұрын
@@jerrykinnin7941 Back in the early 70s, I drove a KW cabover with a 2 stick 4 x 4. The auxiliary shift handle doubled as the cab jack handle, and just slipped over a square stub that stuck up out of the shift tower island. One day, I had a new driver with me to kind of show him the ropes. He was mesmerized by the whole 2 stick thing, so as we are wheeling down the road, I pulled the stick off the stub and handed it to him and told him he could practice with it.
@TsunauticusIV3 жыл бұрын
😂 The first old truck I was tossed into at age 18 was an old autocar with a quad box in it. There was so much play in the sticks that I had to sit at an angle to be able to catch the far side. 😂
@briansignorelli70902 жыл бұрын
That's because it's a Mac Triplex marriage transmission
@nameyourchannel7844 Жыл бұрын
So cool. This was built back when men were men and only the weak would cry.
@geneheck5 ай бұрын
Nothing sounds like a Mack. What a beautiful truck.
@billerubin42407 жыл бұрын
that is a sharp Mack and the shifting is top notch!
@altonriggs23527 жыл бұрын
That's no truck..it's a work of art!!!
@Mr.Highway7 жыл бұрын
I'd give up my 2015 Freightliner Cascadia for that truck in a heartbeat... I miss those ol' trucks...
@buckrowley15067 жыл бұрын
I don't have one to give up just what I see on youtube but I started to like the older ones but I want an actual working truck
@darinseansablan89776 жыл бұрын
Shouldnt have gotten one in the first place 😅 I am just toying with you
@hoost30566 жыл бұрын
I'll take your Cascadia, and then delete the troubles ( if you know what I mean )...... I'm 6'2 and as much as I like classic rigs i couldn't work a B model Mack every day.....too cramped on the inside
@improperbostonian67226 жыл бұрын
It's To Bad They Make Trucks With Cheap Plastic Like The Cheap Cars They Make Today. Cascadia Has Lots Of Room But It Will Never Be A Classic Like That Awesome MACK.
@lewiemcneely91435 жыл бұрын
@@hoost3056 Me too but am hammered down to 5-11. And the right foot turned sideways trying to work the fuel on DM's and RD's. Macks weren't bent for big guys. I drove a duplex with a 711 and a quad with a 673. No triplex.Plus everything from a Superliner down till I quit. Mack can still be a 4-letter word.
@jimineutron2595 жыл бұрын
Beautiful truck! I had a Mack duplex but it shifted differently than that, both shifters at the same time. It was a 1974 dump truck 180hp. I became a master with that duplex also
@David-wu7jj6 жыл бұрын
Nice to watch someone who knows what to do and how to do it. First Mack I ever drove was a B- 81 qaud box
@missesmew3 жыл бұрын
Watched my dad drive them for years on his float. This guy’s pretty good but I haven’t seen him with a load on. lol To me , the Mack B-61 absolutely tops them all! The only one I got to drive professionally (lol, if you could call me that in 87) was a gas job Ford gravel truck with the five and four. My dad had to show me and damn once you got on to it was the coolest thing ever. Great video boys! 👌🏾👍🏽👊🏾
@davidbradbury64102 жыл бұрын
Beautiful absolutely beautiful I had a 1960 b61 with a five and four I had a 1986 with a 5 and 2 still can't shift after all these years I don't know if I can still to stick LOL been driving over 40 years now still love a standard transmission they need to get rid of the automatics maybe then we'd have more truck drivers on the road
@tombeyer37510 ай бұрын
Sweet old truck! Nice job feelin' those gears too. I felt safer, driving manual, as I felt we had better control of the rig, especially in winter weather. The sound of that non- castrated diesel is a calming music to my ears!! "Eagle Claw" on the flip.
@spartonboat17 жыл бұрын
Beautiful truck! I do love the old school dash layout and esp. the switchgear, which is both more attractive and looks more useable that modern plastic 'break me now' switches. Thanks for the post!
@larrypringle97193 жыл бұрын
THANKS for the MEMORY of what it was like in my younger days , driving that old Mac , and reminding me how much I appreciate the Air Ride , Power Assist Steering of today .
@headpunkinhead7 жыл бұрын
When pulling a heavy load over the same route everyday learn the gears you can skip. Up and down. The loaded truck wants to keep on rolling and you have to force it to slow down or speed up.
@scottlaughlin2447 Жыл бұрын
I drove a triplex as a sleeper team many years ago. Smoothest shifting I ever experienced.
@kman-mi7su6 жыл бұрын
Lots of remarks about the shifting job, but I cannot help but notice that engine. That is one well tuned Bulldog, that engine purrs like a well oiled machine. Sounds great.
@wrenclegg5535 жыл бұрын
Good call! She started-up pronto and purred the whole time like a top notch machine!
@barnabaskiss28882 жыл бұрын
Be proud of your Father and Grandpa who manage to shift at this level. As many have told, an art of driving. As a tribute, I practice clutchless shifting on my Accord (in Europe we have many manual transmissions)! :-)
@djgrumpygeezer1194 Жыл бұрын
Hello Barnabas. In 1975, I learned to drive truck behind the wheel of a B61 with a duplex. Watching this guy shift that triplex is a pleasure. When I was a trucker, I usually shifted without the clutch (“floated the gears”) and it was great fun. I avoid doing so in my Civic because 1) The gearbox is more delicate and prone to damage if I miss a shift, and 2) It causes extra wear to the synchronizers and shortens the life of the transmission. Happy driving!
@barnabaskiss2888 Жыл бұрын
@@djgrumpygeezer1194 Hello and thanks for your answer! It's great to exchange views with people who know what they are talking about. So you already drove trucks in 1975 when I was born. It's just amazing to handle a machine at this high level and as I have no truck licence I try to get more sophisticated on motorbikes and cars (like as a substitute). It's quite a useless hobby to practice clutchless shifting and I know that synchros are nor made for it, but I'd like to learn always something more and I do it pretty rarely. I never force it in gear and if it starts grinding I clutch immediately. It's a bit of happiness when I get it :) Double clutching is the other thing I love, especially when the transmission is cold or when driving harder (with heel and tow). Thank you for the advice once again and Happy New Year!
@mikewasfaret95635 жыл бұрын
Mack's had some of the coolest names for running gear. Thermodyne, triplex, camel back ect.
@DranweRagetotem5 жыл бұрын
*Etcetera* *:)* Not ectera x'D
@timwalcott6268Ай бұрын
Smooth like it should be. A real pleasure to watch a professional truck driver..
@tiaanfranken61694 жыл бұрын
Those shifters are tighter than a bolt action rifle i love it
@250082725 жыл бұрын
Now that's one Hell of a gear jammer right there!!!!!! That ole boy could put em all to shame no doubt!!!! You had to be a real man and know what you were doing to drive those old Macks those b-61's were some of the finest pulling tractors ever made!!!
@crazymixture575 жыл бұрын
You lucky duck! She sure is a beauty. I've recently seen an old red and black B model with twins running around here still hauling coal buckets in PA.
@jamessmith7691 Жыл бұрын
They must have gone through those boxes to shift that nice, not to mention his talent. That truck is a beauty.
@2wagondragon5 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, I saw it at the truck show in Clifford Ontario a couple of years ago. Beautiful bulldog!
@johnnyh409 Жыл бұрын
First driving job was a twin stick R Model Mack pulling an unbaffled liquid asphalt tanker.
@Riker-eq2yv5 жыл бұрын
When I was a youngster I was working at a delivery company as a helper in a truck like this. Never did drive it but always admired the driver who could
@jaywalker7122 жыл бұрын
Takes me back to 1967 Winter Haven Florida pulling a load of grapefruit back to the cannery in Eloise in old B-61.
@clydelindsay6657 Жыл бұрын
Great looking Mack B model. Nice shifting.
@MilePost1062 жыл бұрын
The guys that drove these old trucks cross country were tough as nails!!!!!!
@MrKen-longrangegrdhogeliminato5 жыл бұрын
Oh how I miss those days of running a B61 back in 1972, a one stack Mack with a window in the back, Jack.
@erictoytech83925 жыл бұрын
Love the truck. Another lost art, map reading!!
@Sas36035 жыл бұрын
Now that is a unique way to shift. I've never seen that before. He did a heck of a job.
@rp16452 жыл бұрын
Can anyone write out the shift pattern for me. I Love the way those old two shifter shift. Do you only use clutch to start out. What a great restoration on that MACK. Such a smooth shifter that man is. It's a Dieing art. I did Road farming with a JD farm tractor with a side boom mower( Flay) type. I would only use clutch to start, then the 4 gears in say second range, then use clutch to shift to 3rd, and the 4 speed range button, and so on, till you got to speed. I spent a lot of time on Roads traveling to mow area. You drove the Tractor like a vehicle a lot, so there was shifting Transmission, not like you were in field pulling tiller/ plows, ect, just asking for someone to write down shifting pattern please Very nice video to watch this man drive this old wonderful girl.
@jenq17124 жыл бұрын
Very beautiful truck,hello from Russia
@vhdtim7 жыл бұрын
Buy that man a beer
@jc-pj3nh2 жыл бұрын
Got a job driving a brockway roll off with a 5x4. Was a converted logging truck. Actually very easy truck to shift. Drove by sound of engine and didn't even think where the shift levers were. Drivers make it way more difficult than it really is. If you can't shift it and back it up you shouldn't be driving a truck.
@charlenegoskowicz822023 күн бұрын
I've watched Dad shift by the sound of the engine. He knew exactly when the gears should mesh. I never got it right, but I love watching these guys who knew exactly what they were doing, as if the vehicle were an extension of themselves. They were artists!
@Libertad5923 күн бұрын
Luckily I have that gift and I love using it.
@jbj274065 жыл бұрын
That is one beautiful truck, very expertly driven.
@davidreed335711 ай бұрын
Wish I had an old mack. Best truck ever made
@johnstull90293 жыл бұрын
That's one nice truck, dog's got a good hone..
@timcanizares52402 жыл бұрын
That ol boy was as smooth as glass wit them sticks
@johncopenhaver91055 жыл бұрын
I always used the two hand approach. One arm through the wheel and shifted both sticks simultaneously.
@vincentenk44494 жыл бұрын
Why? Not being a smart aleck, would like to know.
@kevinswinyer31764 жыл бұрын
@ Vincent Enk, because that was the easiest, and quickest way to shift these Ole Gals. You still had to let the RPM's drop, and let em drop into gear on their own when shifting up through, and then when down shifting, you had to bring the RPM's up to get them to drop into the next gear down. Double Clutching was required until a good driver could master the art of floating gears without using the Clutch at all, and just listen to the Engine RPM's, and let them tell you when to shift.
@jimackerman53234 жыл бұрын
I learned the same way... left arm through the wheel. But mine was just a duplex... I miss shifting, but I don’t miss that old backbreaker...
@frankwallace51745 жыл бұрын
i think that’s as cool as it comes for alot of us that do this for a living. makes me miss driving a manual trans truck even more
@icewaterslim72605 жыл бұрын
Man the only young time I got to road one of these Browning SOBs about 40 miles without any experience on even a Roadranger I had to stop and start over four times. The little Macks of that era were beautiful though.
@joeewing37228 ай бұрын
My dad owned 2 of these .i also drive truck but these ones today are like driving a automatic pick up truck
@oldpete31533 жыл бұрын
Well that certainly brings back memories of my time in the 60's .
@Robboned5 жыл бұрын
I ran a 5 speed dump truck with a 4-splitter behind it years ago(20 spds) & would simply leave the aux. in 3rd & run the 5 & if on highway shift the aux. to 4th loaded or empty but really didn't haul too heavy with it. Worked great and made drinking my coffee that much easier....but not as easy as the automatic "trucks" running around today.
@billwilson66702 жыл бұрын
That cab interior looks just like it came off the showroom floor.
@petercarmeci83172 жыл бұрын
That’s what I learned on. Great tractors. Couldn’t kill em.
@peoplesambassadordm82793 жыл бұрын
Love to see gramps and that old truck. I wish i could drive it too
@1219magnum3 ай бұрын
As a kid in '62-'63, my dad worked for a freight line. He loved driving a B61 with a tranny just like this. He would sometimes use both hands to shift both stix. What a great show! Love u dad!!
@1940limited7 ай бұрын
I thought the tractor trailer he passed would blow the horn at him. Not interested, I guess.
@tracyafflick27935 жыл бұрын
what a great old truck i'm old enough to remember when these were new my dad would have loved to have owned one back then he did have a twin sticker in an international AB180 and it was fun watching him changing gears when i was a kid he would stick one hand through the steering wheel on one stick &the other hand on the other stick & change up 18 forward gears &four in reverse & a two speed differential
@volvobrynk7 жыл бұрын
Any chance of a re-do, and have "the Driver" explain what he is doing, and give us a picture of the shift pattern. Because that was EPIC!
@michaelstanley73615 жыл бұрын
Pretty much just a 5 speed with the other stick splitting them 3 times. The outside stick is your main gears while the inner is the splitter gears. The only thing with these is when you shift a main gear you have to switch your splitter gear to one before you can go with it.
@tellmesomething2go5 жыл бұрын
If you watch it, you can see the shift pattern. Listen to the engine.
@PapaBear6t85 жыл бұрын
@@michaelstanley7361 I mainly agree with you, except for the fact that It's a 4 speed gearbox split in 3, for a total of 12 gears! Edit: I wonder how many gears does it have in reverse... I guess there are 3?! :)
@chance62984 жыл бұрын
Where's Reverse?? Lol
@daltonbrink99243 жыл бұрын
Shift pattern: Auxillary Main 3 R 2 4 |----| |----|----| 1 2 1 3 5
@plumbingstuffinoregon24712 жыл бұрын
I can't believe how tight those gears are! They click into place like Legos.
@cslan47 жыл бұрын
Love it screw automatic truck trans!
@MOVINW85 жыл бұрын
They aren't automatics
@conner56115 жыл бұрын
@@MOVINW8 obviously... Hes saying that the new trucks with autos suck....
@MOVINW85 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm saying. They are auto shift. Same case...same gears
@brandonharris92375 жыл бұрын
@@MOVINW8 lmao what exactly are you saying ? Do you actually know
@ronskelton87425 жыл бұрын
Auto is taking over. Get used to them or retire.
@williamallen21825 жыл бұрын
i first learned to drive a truck in 1962 on B-61 with Tri-plex. Bringing back memories! Thanks for keeping this old gal on the road.
@dougauzene83895 жыл бұрын
Now, THAT'S A Truck! Sweet Shifting!
@mikesims42865 жыл бұрын
That is a beautiful rig..and a master at the wheel!
@jacko74fisher706 жыл бұрын
Wow! Real old school driver, I wouldn't know where to start!
@215jami8 жыл бұрын
That box is new forks and sliders tight looking ,nice
@mikeservais8885 жыл бұрын
Good job with the triplex Lloyd I drove a Rmodle with a triplex learned real quick to not miss a gear or start all over good video
@michaelstanley73615 жыл бұрын
Haha! Same here, I think I was spoiled learning on a new 13 speed. I’m only 20 but I’m restoring our old b model with a 5&3 and I’m just excited.
@jezzamarkham528517 күн бұрын
Beautiful bit of driving. I’m glad i watched. 🙂❤️👍
@SOU69007 жыл бұрын
I applaud those who can shift a two stick and make it look easy as pie. I would probably end up trashing the boxes if I tried this.
@spook57567 жыл бұрын
SOU6900 before they became good at it they probably trashed a few gear teeth also. They learned, so can you. He lost me after the third shift though.
@iancole29265 жыл бұрын
Once you sit in the seat and try it it comes pretty quickly
@kevinthomas29065 жыл бұрын
@@iancole2926 I started with an Eaton Fuller 10 spd
@iancole29265 жыл бұрын
See I got lucky I started in a r modle mack twin stick truck
@Antiquetractorsetc5 жыл бұрын
Very nice truck. I’ve always like the B series. Perfect shifting I didn’t hear any grinding!!
@marklintwo10 ай бұрын
Well, he grinded a little a few times, but still is very talented!!
@fredkorth9715 Жыл бұрын
Just excellent shifting
@willybones38903 жыл бұрын
He's barely using that clutch. Perfectly adjusted shifters. Gorgeous Truck.
@jasonakl18035 жыл бұрын
Some People struggle with one stick shift how about two lol... You Sir did a great job haven't seen something like that.
@trainman0715 жыл бұрын
ahh the ole "lazy shift technique" i miss those days i loved shifting these it was fun and a skillful exp for me
@dergrammarfuhrer19017 жыл бұрын
Dear lord that is beautiful...
@killianmackenzie4205 жыл бұрын
Oh man that ol bulldog is BEAUTIFUL!!
@trainman0715 жыл бұрын
thats not just shifting there's art and skill to this and i love it!!!
@TwinStix3 жыл бұрын
Always found that interesting that Mack’s had the brownie on the inside whereas Pete’s and Kenny’s had it on the outside 🤔 nice shifting there driver👌
@whitetiger86527 жыл бұрын
Beautiful job shifting. Best I've seen as well!
@gsd4me007 жыл бұрын
And all done without looking at the rev counter.
@Naeiou7 жыл бұрын
Love the sound of that motor...nice truck!!! Can remember when Maislin Bros. used them.
@trainman0715 жыл бұрын
we have a old international dt 466 with a straight five it s used as a yard truck but it has the click of the stick i love shifting no skill like it great job!!
@billarroo14 жыл бұрын
I used to drive a 1966 Pete 359, with 5 & 4, over 40 years ago, after watching you, I wounder, how I did that ? 😆😆 GREAT VIDEO, Thanks William Orange county, Ca.
@excavatoree5 жыл бұрын
I believe this gentleman has done this a few (hundred thousand?) times. Also, the truck seems to be in amazing mechanical condition. I'm guessing someone's very proud of some transmission work.
@thomaskuzyk98025 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍 LIKE YOUR COMMENT THE COUNTRY TIGERS CANADA THE SOUND OF THAT ENGINE SO GOOD
@thomaserickson30435 жыл бұрын
I wanna see a rookie truck driver or a young truck driver try out an old mack tri plex truck. I know a couple older veteran truckers that use to run old macks and like they said. If you can tackle one of those you can handle any rig. One guy learned truck driving in an old B series mack his grandfather owned, they used to haul logs with . He says this video brings back old memories and he absolutely loves this truck in the video.
@HB-of6hq2 жыл бұрын
I don't miss them. Box seat , Armstrong Steering Wheel , Spring ride . I learned on one. My first trip was across interstate 80 going to JFK airport in beautiful Jamaica NY. 😂
@somewhatdamaged29463 жыл бұрын
Beautiful truck💯💯
@giemontakahasi40765 жыл бұрын
Great truck, great driver!
@alanadair71695 жыл бұрын
Man and his truck in perfect harmony
@kasimiralmasov93552 жыл бұрын
Die spinnen-die Amis, diese bekloppte Schaltung. Es geht auch einfach.
@bigmackstruckstop92134 жыл бұрын
I love that mack I saw it in person a few years ago at the Kentucky truck show